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11 January 2012 2319 comments
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We can finally wave goodbye to Gameweek 20 after tonight’s events, as Spurs and Everton clash at the Lane to bring it to a conclusion. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to capture your thoughts, comments and opinion in real-time as events unfold.

The same double Gameweek assets that disappointed the first time around, will now be expected to deliver with Gareth Bale and Emmanuel Adebayor once again carrying the armband for thousands of Fantasy managers.

Investment in the Everton lineup was far more modest and, with both Phil Jagielka and Leon Osman sidelined, it’s likely to be just Leighton Baines who goes into tonight’s game with Fantasy backing.

Away from the Lane, City and Liverpool clash in the first leg of their Carling Cup semi-final – a distraction perhaps, but Roberto Mancini’s teamsheet and the form of Steven Gerrard will be on the agenda for watchful Fantasy managers.

The City lineup shows no start for David Silva, with City moving quickly to offer reassurance that the inspirational Spaniard won’t be sidelined for long – it remains to be seen if he’ll make Monday’s trip to Wigan. The Liverpool lineup has Jose Enrique on the bench with Martin Kelly, drafted in; Craig Bellamy and Steven Gerrard both start, as does Andy Carroll.

At the Lane, Jake Livermore comes in for the injured Scott Parker while both Michael Dawson and Aaron Lennon earn starts. Everton recall Tim Cahill, with no place for Royston Drenthe – he’s left on the bench.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. sy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    BBC said everton should have had a penalty for a foul on drenthe...anybody see the incident?

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    1. HANTON1984
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      100%, and when you have baines as well and no spurs defenders it made me sick

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      1. sy
        • 15 Years
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        Part of the same group and a drenthe assist if baines scored

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        1. Crazy Joe
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          14 years, 3 months ago

          Same here.

          I heard the ref has BAE in his team...

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    2. DRIZ ✅
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      yep it was a pen, foul by kaboul.

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    3. COW
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      I would have said it should have been. Just clipped his legs while trying to tackle.

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    4. Tim Canterbury
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      Id say 50/50 but then I had BAE so I might be slightly biased

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  2. Gabriel Agbonlahor
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    lineup for GW21

    howard (avl)
    simpson (QPR) | bae (WOL) | shawx (liv)
    silva (wig) | bale (WOL) | donovan (avl) | drenthe (avl)
    rooney (BOL) | rvp (swa) | ade (WOL)

    sub: ruddy reocoker naylor caulker
    who to take out for the 1 week punt before wildcard?

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      donovan or drenthe.

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      1. Gabriel Agbonlahor
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        to whom?

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  3. smash
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    Thinking Drenthe to BenAfa this GW

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    1. 4vets
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      My thoughts exactly.

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    2. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Already done 😉

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    3. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      Canaye instead imo.

      Won't he now also be on pens seeing as Ba's away?

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
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        Cabaye^

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  4. Bench pony warmer
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    BBC said he dived on their text.

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    1. Bench pony warmer
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      for FF addict

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      1. sy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        The live text read it looked like a penalty no mention of a dive.

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      bbc texted you?

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      1. Bench pony warmer
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        did they, never got it

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      2. Tim Canterbury
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        lol made me chuckle

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    3. Sheep Flavour
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      Good old BBC Redknapp love in.

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  5. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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    hmm spurs fixtures post wigan arent amazing, i still think ill stick to my wc plan and get rid of BAE gw23, hopefully the rise in his value should allow me to bolster midfield

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    1. jamsiep
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      +2

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    2. Bench pony warmer
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      my plan was for after weekend, but starting to doubt playing against poor city team isnt bad shout

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      1. Kanus hat trick
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Ha, suddenly they're poor, not as good as with Yaya and Komps but they'll have Silva and are anything but poor!

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Sorry - that is crap. Their Home fixtures are mostly great.

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      1. jamsiep
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        14 years, 3 months ago

        So they are.... Hmmmm.

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      2. Kick Some Goals
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        When's the earliest Ba could be back? If he is, BAE at home to Newcastle suddenly doesn't look as appealing.

        Think it's safer just to drop him after GW23 and back in for GW28/29.

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      3. Colonel Shoe 肝池
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        14 years, 3 months ago

        liv, NEW, ars, MANU, fixtures clear up after that as you say at home. just trying to weigh up holding spurs defense during that intervening 4 gw period

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  6. blauriecon
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    Current team
    Krul Vorm
    Kompany Enrique Jagielka BAE Simpson
    Silva Nani Bale Cabaye Sinclair
    RVP Adebayor Sturridge
    Can I afford to delay WC to next week
    If I WC, it will be
    Kompany Jagielka Sinclair Adebayor > Cahill Evans Mata Bellamy
    and GW23
    Mata Bellamy > Aguero McLean

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  7. Sheep Flavour
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Big plus for being an BAE owner. Downside I have hung on to Jags these past few weeks for the DGW......thanks Ngog lol 😀

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  8. Infinite Sheldon
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Just a out to play wildcard

    Lindergaard, krul
    Enrique, Richards, Clark, evans, Kelly
    Silva, dempsey, Gerrard, bale, Ben arfa
    Sturridge, aguero, Zamora

    Any objections?

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  9. tangtastic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Vorm at home to ARSE.

    Play Vorm?

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I think I will.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Although I do have Krul at home to QPR....

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        1. tangtastic
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Well, I have both. Playing Krul over Vorm seems like a no-brainer to me.

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 3 months ago

            Arsenal only managed to score 1 against Wolves and 1 against QPR recently. Maybe Henry will have a bigger impact on it all but it's very confusing with Swans. Hadn't really thought too much about it.

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Your son has you in his sights .... 😉

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          😛 The toe rag! I tell you, I let him do interpretive dance instead of playing football with the other boys. Downhill from there.

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      3. tangtastic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Seriously..? Was kinda just kidding.. testing the 'rule'. Guess your other keeper isn't a great bet?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          He is talking crap! 😉

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
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            You stop belittling my opinions 😛

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            1. tangtastic
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              I'm really confused!

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        2. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Well Krul home to QPR is so its a tough one. Swans do well at Home against the big teams, usually concede 1 at most. Then Vorm will get a fair few save points too.

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          1. tangtastic
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            14 years, 3 months ago

            Yeah, I can see where you're coming from. I don't like the look of the Shaun Derry (QPR). Apparently he scored a goal a few seasons ago, and if he gets the ball one on one in the 6 yard box he could be pretty dangerous.

            Vorm it is then 😆

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            1. Somalion
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 3 months ago

              😀 It's such a dodgy one. On paper, Newcastle are a no brainer. On the other hand, it would be the one time Vorm would score big 😛 This game is putting years on me 😀

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    2. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Yep.

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  10. Matakuko
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Pre Bonus Cup Tie

    A) 65 with Bale(c) and Ade.

    VS

    B) 62 with Ade(c), Bale and Ekotto

    who is going to win?

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      BAE will get 3 so it'll be a tie.

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      tie game, come down to number of goals.

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  11. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Still cannot understand Moyes not playing Drenthe but giving the likes of Donovan a lot of game time. Fair enough if you want to play defensively but you might need a stronger defence to try that kinda thing.

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    1. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Drenthe had Spurs rattle in the last 10 minutes which is really saying something considering the way the rest of the game played out. I really can't understand why Moyes doesn't show any interest in playing him

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  12. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    @ Doos

    Worth having Sess instead if Dempsey to get BAE and Kos?

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  13. HANTON1984
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    wc team

    lindergaard sorensen

    savic williamson cahill sendoros caulker
    valencia bale ben afra mcclean dempsey
    aguero rooney rvp

    your thoughts?

    i think quite good

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  14. BobB
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Is Robinson fit again to keep goal for Blackburn?

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  15. Will - Fantasy Football Hub
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    who's the best cheap keeper that rotates well with vorm? Or should I just pick a 4.0 non starter.. maybe swans No.2?

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  16. RafaMC
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Nice victory for the Reds against City tonight.........

    even better to have BAE bring home the bacon against the blue noses

    My transfer last week was to chuck out Phil Jones -2pts and bringing in BAE 21pts .......:) talk about it working out well.

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    1. Sheep Flavour
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Nice one on the DF transfer mate.

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      1. RafaMC
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks for that. It is one of the few things to go well this season. Its a pity that Drenthe got onto the pitch as it prevented Neil Taylor of Swansea with his 6 points coming in.

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  17. halnone
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    United fan giving me shit about losing today.

    It's not like they were knocked out of the same competition by Crystal Palace or anything...

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      meh it doesn't matter in the end though does it

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    2. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Just wait til you win the league.

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  18. I wish I knew
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Which expensive midfielder to choose?

    Silva, Nani, Mata, Gerrard, Lampard? Got Aguero and Richards, but not ManU, Chels or liverpool coverage

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Can you get Silva and Valencia?

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      1. I wish I knew
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I'd have to get rid of Dempsey. If I'm going to play and 8m oop mid I'd rather it was as striker rather than a defender...

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        1. GordonGekko
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Isn't Valencia moved up by now?

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    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Nani assuming Silver will be injured

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    3. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      nani/gerrard.

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  19. Ryan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Drenthe to Pilkington

    Yay or nay

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      No. Look at the ticker ...

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Its just for 3 weeks. Can bench him against chelsea

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Get Carter. Hell, get McClean!!! 😀

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          1. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 3 months ago

            Could save a transfer and get McClean for the two easy games after this chelsea match

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          2. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 3 months ago

            Who is Carter?

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Doos

        Worth having Sess instead if Dempsey to get BAE and Kos?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Not quite, imo. And I got him at the beginning of the week. Walters may be your solution here - perhaps.

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 3 months ago

            get Walters ahead of who? problem is my main rival has Walters, and he's useless away from home.

            That being said, after today I'm a bout 40 points clear, so having his team may not be a bad thing.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              14 years, 3 months ago

              Well, you need 2 goalscorers, and 2 assisters.

              Bale, Dempsey(Walters), Etherington(Sessegnon), Cabaye and a Johnson(McClean)

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    2. DRIZ ✅
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      drenthe > HBA

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        got HBA already

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      nay, Pilkington is a Norwich midfielder, no one is nailed on in there. You should lose Royston, but maybe get Sess instead, If you can't go higher, just go McLean and upgrade elsewhere.

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Can't afford Sess, McClean isn't nailed on either and has Chelsea this week

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    4. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Lambert loves to rotate mids, i'd look elsewhere

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        He started the last two games and is showing more form than Surman, sure he wont start?

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        1. Kanus hat trick
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          He may start but its 50/50, i'd rather have someone almost certain to start- Ben Arfa maybe!!

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          1. Kanus hat trick
            • 14 Years
            14 years, 3 months ago

            McClean should start, tough fixture though

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    5. Sheep Flavour
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Everton lack anything to get you BP or an assist or an goal in this game...Nor can least score...so go Pilks.

      BUT Pilks has two tough GW fixs after this.

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      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        hmm will Sunderland away be a challenge?

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  20. alsybach
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    I am going to build my WILDCARD around Royston Drenthe.............any thoughts............

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    1. sy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Add Henry to that list 😉

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    2. adziom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Love it 😛

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  21. Infinite Sheldon
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Just about to play wildcard

    Lindergaard, krul
    Enrique, Richards, Clark, evans, Kelly
    Silva, dempsey, Gerrard, bale, Ben arfa
    Sturridge, aguero, Zamora

    Any objections?

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    1. I wish I knew
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      No Henry?!?!?!?!

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  22. Menly
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    No Yaya and no kompany (and maybe no Silva???) is making me think twice about investing more in the ole City. Thoughts?

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Watching the first half was like watching paint dry. I think this is about as bad as it gets absence wise for City and while I had faith in them to keep delivering before the match, this has put doubt in my mind about Aguero...

      Lucky I was planning a GW23/24 WC 😀 I'll wait til absences and form become clearer.

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Indeed me too. But I may be forced to wc... 🙁

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      2. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Yep once Silva, perhaps Yaya are definitely playing he'll be unmissable. Just hope not too many good fixtures pass before then...

        But never mind Aguero, Richards is who I'm worried about with Savic at the back! Was all set to get him. Luckily Komp will be back by GW23 won't he?

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I am going off Aguero ...

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        As am I (at least until Yaya and Silva are back)

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Yep. Whatever his fantasy shortcomings - Yaya is the man!!!

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      2. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        A lot off the big guns misfiring at present.

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  23. blind faith
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    I'm starting to hate fpl. Thanks to BAE I have to somehow make up 80 points on my mini league! 80 off 1st and like 40 off 2nd. Pfft!

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    1. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      still a long way to go.......one good captains choice could give you 30/40 points..............I am 120 points behind my league leader........who captained BAE by the way.....and I will ctach him and overtake him...................

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      1. blind faith
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Thats the spirit! Is it worth gambling for differentials or just try to keep being consistent?

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    2. Bubbles
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      80 isn't much at all. Still half a season left. I've been way further behind at this stage and won my mini league easily.

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  24. mikeywoodward
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Didnt see the game any chance walker or modric baps? Im thinking not from live text?

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  25. Hate that rotation
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Any ideas for 1 week midfielder punt for 7.0 or less?

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  26. Manani
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    is gettting VDV instead of bale in WC stupid??
    i will need to pay 0.9m more for VDV

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    1. adziom
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      Risky but not stupid

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  27. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    So, who's keeping Drenthe for avl BLA?

    Me, for one.

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    1. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      me, i think. esp if other injuries dont clear

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    2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Me, but he's going 1st sub

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Yep.

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    4. bmb100
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      He's never gracing my team ever, ever again. 8 weeks of fail.

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    5. isacki: full casual
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      14 years, 3 months ago

      Sub.

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  28. Silva is Gold.
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    14 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone know anything more about the Silva injury what is the consensus with the Wigan game?

    I am a ferguson holder so pretty important.

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  29. HANTON1984
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    wc team

    lindergaard sorensen

    savic williamson cahill sendoros caulker
    valencia bale ben afra mcclean dempsey
    aguero rooney rvp

    your thoughts anyone anyone?

    i think quite good

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  30. dA4s
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    I got totally killed by my cup opponent ranked 2 mill+(reason : he didn't start playing until gameweek 10.)
    He's on 99 point pre bonus... 🙁

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