Dugout Discussion
16 January 2012 3783 comments
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League leaders Manchester City travel to the DW Stadium tonight, looking to put breathing space between themselves and their city rivals. The Dugout Discussion chatroom opens in anticipation of the conclusion of Gameweek 21.

Both team sheets have been handed in, and here is how they line-up on this horribly cold Monday night…

Wigan XI: Al Habsi, Stam, Alcaraz, Caldwell, Figueroa, McArthur, McCarthy, Gomez, Crusat, Rodallega, Moses.

Man City XI: Hart, Zabaleta, Savic, Lescott, Clichy, Milner, Barry, Nasri, Silva, Aguero, Dzeko.

Roberto Martinez continues with Albert Crusat, who manages to shake off a slight back injury to start tonight. James McArthur begins for only the third time in the league this season, replacing Mohamed Diame who is unavailable thanks to the African Cup of Nations.

Manchester City are forced to partner Jolean Lescott and Stefan Savic at centre-back once more, despite a very ropey performance in their defeat to United last weekend. Elsewhere, David Silva is restored to the starting line-up, Sergio Aguero partners Edin Dzeko up front, and Pablo Zabaleta replaces Micah Richards.

Follow all the action in our Dugout Discussion chatroom, which can be accessed right here.

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  1. WOLVERiNES
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Repost:-

    Drenthe > Sess + Ade >Zamora

    OR

    Drenthe > Dempsey + Ade > Bendtner

    2 transfers for a 4 pt hit and have to get rid of both ade and drenthe..

    Any other suggestions ?? Will be WC Gweek 24..

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  2. markieffm
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    To Wildcard or not to Wildcard???? I have 1 free transfer this week...

    Vorm Al-Habsi

    Jose Enrique Simpson Evans J Walker Hibbert (OUT)

    Sinclair Bale Walters Osman (OUT) Nani

    Adebayor (OUT) Sturridge Van Persie

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    1. @FuzzyWarbles
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      tempting but not completely necessary to WC if you are trying to hold out. osman->sess could do well. bench ade, hibbert, and your choice after that.

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      1. markieffm
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Good shout... Need to get rid before I lose money on Osman..

        Sess it is!! 🙂

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  3. uhahpaulmcgrath
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Lads,
    Is Rooney defo getting those assists ?

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    1. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Rukawa is investigating the matter.

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      1. Fitzy.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Seems his emails were treated with the respect they deserved...

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    2. Fratboy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Yes. It's completely and 100% done now. I pinky promise.

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    3. Dermot
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      They are discussing it in parliament this afternoon so we should get a clear answer then.

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  4. jimlad
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Morning gents!

    This morning i have been tinkering with my wildcard team. What do you think to these likely lads...

    Krul Vorm

    Cahill Enrique Shawcross Simpson Caulker

    Silva Valencia Bale Walters Dyer

    RVP Aguero Sturridge

    Is the defence a little weak?

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    1. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Are you family of Jafalad?

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      1. jimlad
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Depends, is he well loved here?

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        1. Fitzy.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Leader of the L5 Gang...

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          1. jimlad
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            In that case, no i am not related.

            Now that we have established this...What do you think to my WC team? :p

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            1. Fitzy.
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              I'd wait on Cahill until you're sure he starts every week. Walters & Dyer rotate well only until GW 28, so you might want to look at that down the track given Walters away form?

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  5. Matakuko
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Krul (ful), Ruddy (CHE)

    JEnrique (bol), Jones (ars), Senderos (NEW), BAE (mci), Caulker (SUN)

    Mata (nor), Silva (TOT), Bale (mci), Allen (SUN), Romeu (nor)

    RVP (MUN), Morrison(CHE), Ade (*mci)

    Can anyone make this into a team? Or do I need to WC?

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  6. The Finnisher
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Dawson nailed on, yeah?

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Yes.

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    2. Random_Guy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Of course.

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    3. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Would you be looking to double up on spurs defense?

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      1. markieffm
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Not for this GW but after this YES.

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        1. Ryan
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          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Fair enough, could be 3 weeks worth of cleanies until they face arsenal and united

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    4. nedfoo
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      You'd assume so, he was captain the other night against Everton

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  7. Fratboy
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    GW22 team:

    Hart (Bogdan)
    Senderos Kelly Santon (McAuley)(Dawson)
    Nani Bale Dempsey McClean
    Sturridge Rooney(c) RVP

    0.0 in the bank 1FT

    What do we reckon guys? I can't honestly see a transfer this week or next week...

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    1. Very good manager
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      who's is your midfield sub?

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    2. @FuzzyWarbles
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      whos the mid on the bench then?

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      1. Fratboy
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Oh yeah Ben arfa

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        1. @FuzzyWarbles
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          i mean fantasy, not reality.....

          🙂

          you just WC'ed. you should have a squad that shouldnt need tinkering after one week if you planned well. save that tranny!!!

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          1. Fratboy
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            okie dokie!

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    3. tosey
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      captain rooney is a ballsy move

      i suppose no more ballsy than me captaining torres tho

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      1. Christina.
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Nah. Wait till the poll comes out.

        😉

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        1. Conal_H
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Nani > Valencia

          I'd do that straight away

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          1. Fratboy
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Not a bad shout....just Nani is a ticking bomb, if I get rid of him now then all this waiting will have been in vain

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  8. Very good manager
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Does anyone have suggestions for midfielders i have 10 in the bank would really appreciate it thanks???

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    1. @FuzzyWarbles
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      hard to say without seeing rest of team but dempsey, mata, sessegnon, valencia are some options. plenty more options if only a 1 or 2 week punt.

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  9. Heiro
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    I have a front 8 of Bale/Valencia/Walters/Sess/Silva/Aguero/Sturridge/RVP

    Would you keep Valencia or Switch to Dempsey? Im 0.1 away from upgrading Walters to Depsey

    Im on my wildcard

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    1. 1mills
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Walters will probably rise this week, only problem is Dempsey might aswell (and first)

      Only thing in favour is obviously Walters is cheaper so he might increase a bit quicker.

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      1. Heiro
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Fletcher to Sturridge if you had change?

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      2. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        been watching dempsey like a hawk. has actually had a few more transfers out than in past couple of days.

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        1. CarelessGenius©
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Fulham too erratic....you could be subbing Demps in and out all season....

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          1. @FuzzyWarbles
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            two week punt, then swap out for walters. gotta have captain america at some point this year!

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    2. Bolt-on
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Id keep Valencia - Dempsey don't do it for me

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  10. got2bmyyear
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    13 years, 11 months ago

    Any sign of bonus points?

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    1. tosey
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      probably be

      dzeko 3
      nasri 2
      zabaleta 1

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      1. CarelessGenius©
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Nasri 2? That work-shy fop..?

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        1. Team Hayemaker
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Nasri was poor. From the bonus points of view I would go with Dzeko 3, Silva 2, Zabaleta 1

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      2. Fratboy
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks for that Chemikills 😉

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      3. Caine & Co.
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Nasri won't get 2. TotalFPL get their predicitons quite often horribly wrong.

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      4. Granville
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        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        From the stats Zabaleta, but an unfortunate yellow card might be a strike out. One of the defenders has a chance.

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        1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          any chance of Hart getting one?

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  11. CarelessGenius©
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Vorm or lindegaard this week?

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    1. Zizou
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      would have to be vorm, i've same keepers and think i'll be goin vorm

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      1. CarelessGenius©
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Swansea are poor on the road, and mon's team look like pasting someone.....sess on fire. Might go lindegaard as Fergie might 4-5-1 it against the arse.

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        1. Zizou
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          yeah like its hard to pick was thinking the same myself, at mo i've vorm in but i could change a few times yet

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    2. Very good manager
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      vorm

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  12. Zizou
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    bae > Rtaylor

    1FT

    yeah or nay

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah.

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    2. Fratboy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Why now? Sure it's City next but surely a great chance of a cleanie vs Wigan?

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      1. Zizou
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        well i'm already benching adebayor against city, and i think i've spurs overkill at mo,
        they have liverpool, arsenal, newcastle and united after wigan so i honestly dont see too many cleanies,

        granted theres a chance of attacking points but think rtaylor has the same chance at moment plus chance of clean sheet points

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        1. Fratboy
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          I agree I have too missed a trick with Ryan, but if I had BAE, I'd keep him till after GW23, then get rid. Surely Newcastle away to Fulham doesn't seem a wise move?

          Although I've argued you keep BAE for Wigan, I'd say the opposite for Adebayor, he's awful and clogging an important position in your team.

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    3. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      yay

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  13. keotes
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Who should I play, Lindegaard or Vorm?

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      See about 6 inches above....

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  14. Heiro
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Wildcard Team Guys. My first one posted so be nice 🙂

    Lingaard/Sorenson
    Kelly/JEvans/Richards/Caulker/Simpson
    Bale/Silva/Valencia/Walters/Sessegnon
    Aguero/Sturridge/RVP

    0.3 in the bank. What do you think?

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    1. el flacooo
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      nice team, good midfielders, but where is vorm??!

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      1. Heiro
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Rather have lingaard. Seems to be starting more and more, and im bored of vorm 😀

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    2. Shotgun
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Apart from kellY and Richards i like it.

      Im not touching City untill komp is back, then im buying him again. Cuz without him citys back 4 is shaite.

      But other then that, looks solid

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      1. CarelessGenius©
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Apart from that clean shaite last night.....

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        1. Shotgun
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Against the most crappy team in the PL. Wow, im impressed...

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          1. Kick Some Goals
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            The same crappy team that Stoke, Sunderland and Chelsea couldn't keep a CS against?

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      2. Heiro
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Who would you switch him for Shotgun? Ive managed to drop 2mil in team value doing my WC already, so no harm in dropping a bit more 😀

        I could drop him to Shotton and upgrade my mid or keep the money in the bank?

        Thoughts on Sturridge instead of fletcher/morrison?

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        1. Shotgun
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Ive got 5.7 mil banked atm 🙂 Also on WC. Shotton yes, good choice tho unsure to play as i see it. But im keeping anyways. Your mid doesnt need upgrade as far as im concerned.

          Im going Torres insed to Studge tho. Need a differential as im chasing minileague leader.

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          1. Heiro
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Same, I am chasing also, but he doesnt have sturridge. Why don't you like Kelly. Hes 3.9 and playing every week. Senderos is hardly attacking potential bar the odd assist.

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            1. Shotgun
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              No no, i like Kelly. REALY like him, he´s fantasy goal, IF he plays. I dont have the balls to punt but, if you feel him then go ahead 🙂

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    3. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Same as lots a folk. Looks fine.
      Might want Vorm in there 'stead of Sorensen, but that's just me.
      Who to el Capitan this week....

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      1. Heiro
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        If sturridge is playing i think id captain him vs Norwich....

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        1. keotes
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          What about Mata? 🙂

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  15. Albert Cole
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Wigan - City bonus points?

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    1. Random_Guy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      According to Chemi, Dzeko 3, Nasri 2 and Zabaleta 1.

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      1. Bigo1
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Will be completely different then....Surely, Silva must get 1 or 2

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        1. BallyMac
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          I hope so, I'm losing 67-68 in the cup so need 1 bp from silva to go through on my rank

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        2. Random_Guy
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Not sure. He did have a few shots off target.

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  16. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Quite a strange GW.

    I only dropped from last night a few 100 places, yet my GW score went down about 500,000 places.

    Looks like a lot of the poorer ranked players scored the highest points overall.

    Got to love FPL.

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    1. Fitzy.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Yep, anyone with a decent score this week is a numpty...

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  17. yash
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Plz tell who to bench from this team?

    Vorm Krul

    Richards Senderos Taylor Shotton Simpson

    Dempsey Bale Silva Valencia Mclean

    Sturridge RVP Aguero

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Dunno. Do ip-dip-do......

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  18. Rinseboy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Based on fulham conceeding to ten men on weekend, what are people's thoughts on who to play in fulham vs Newcastle? I have krul(Sorensen sub), santon and then Kelly fulham!

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  19. Back on the horse
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Welcome to the 11 that count Nathan Dyer!!

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    1. nedfoo
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      argh Dyer cost me my fantasy cup, but still in Moses we Servo Fidem!

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  20. tosey
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    dont get this protection lark, will kompany drop this week?

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Almost certain Kompany will drop a log this week.

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      1. Fitzy.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        😯

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  21. Tuchap - Lurker
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Play Vorm or Mignolet?

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    1. BOOM XHAKALACA
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Mignolet

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    2. Fratboy
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Mignolet

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    3. Random_Guy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Me no late.

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  22. Very good manager
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Sess or McClean??

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    1. CarelessGenius©
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Play em both.....

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      1. Very good manager
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        dont have them both .... Its etiher getting one or the other with getting McClean it would free up some cash to upgrade valencia but im not necessarily sure that i want to do that..

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    2. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      To buy? Sess.

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      1. Very good manager
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        To get sess i have to downgrade Valencia where McClean just slots right in instead of Cabaye??

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  23. jimbob041
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Why is everyone dumping Silva? IMO he will be top midfielder at the end of the season....

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    1. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I hope he keeps dropping then I can buy him back in on the WC 🙂

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    2. Bolt-on
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Can't understand that either.

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    3. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      He's dropping like a hotpot. I sold for 10 and so the nearer to that he gets the more interested I'll be to bring him back in for GW24...

      I'm waiting to see if Liverpool go through in the Carling Cup though.

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      1. Chris_White
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        In which GW will the final be played?

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      2. Screaming Midget
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        GW26.

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    4. Tuchap - Lurker
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Iv had him for ages and he is one man who I will not be getting rid of.

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    5. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Everyone's not dumping Silva. He already has 1000+ NTI today. Before yesterday he was sold because of him being a doubt. Though, some people are too impatient with him not being able to score double figures too much. Still, in the long run he'll outscore plenty other with his 6,5,6 scores.

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  24. Rinseboy
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    So fulham or Newcastle defenders this weekend??!

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    1. Hiphopopotamus
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I'd go Fulham as they're at home and Newcastle's midfield isn't what is was with their injuries and ACON.

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    2. Very good manager
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Both!

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    3. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Im playing two Fulham, one newc this GW

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  25. @Team Shark FC
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    guys tis is my current team..

    vorm hilario

    richards enrique j.evans simpson caulker

    silva valencia bale sess HBA

    aguero RVP morison

    who shud i ply tis week?? any thoughts would be appreciated! 🙂

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  26. tommoeommo
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    WC activated, how does this look??
    Sorenson, Lindergard
    Evans, Skrtel, Enrique, Simpson, Santon
    Silva, Sess, Bale, Valencia, McLean
    RVP, Aguero, Sturridge

    0.7 left
    plan on doing Skrtel > Kompany in GW 24 when liverppols fixtures toughen up, and Santon > Shotton GW 25 when Newcastles fixtures toughen up. Any major problems with doubling up on Liverpool and Newcastle at the back for the next 3 weeks? Thinking I mightn't play Evans much over the next few weeks as utd have some tough fixtures..

    Any costructive criticism will be much appreciated

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    1. Screaming Midget
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      You have 2 keepers there who aren't nailed on.

      Begovic / De Gea could always feature.

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      1. tommoeommo
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Sorenson is number 1, without a doubt

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  27. DanwiseTheBrave
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Do you think after the 8-2 Man U - Arsenal Game last year we're heading for a 0-0 draw this time round. Nervous of captaining RVP or Rooney.

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    1. Granville
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Not a chance. Both teams will score.

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      1. DanwiseTheBrave
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Captain Rooney for the 22 points

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    2. jimbob041
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      captain RVP he will get 1 goal + 1 assist

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      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        It comes down to who you think will win I suppose

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  28. thehut
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Who is the best sunderland DEF for the next 2 weeks?

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  29. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    i got a team in mind that includes Walters but depending on rises/drops i may come up .1 short.

    Anyone care to offer their thoughts on Etherington as a substitute for Walters in this situation? He's averaged just .1 ppg less than walters for the season. scored 2 goals against my spurs last month. to be fair his only 2 goals on the campaign.

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    1. Heiro
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      There is usually room for manouver in your defence. Naylor -> Caulker Senderos --> Kelly Shawcross --> Shotton. Simpson --> Williamson.

      any of those an option to be able to afford walters?

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      1. @FuzzyWarbles
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        nope. everything else is finally frozen and set. have caulker and kelly. not downgrading raylor. not yet. etherington has been pretty consistent the two years ive been playing this game. never one to cause a kneejerk, seem like the kind of player no one likes to mention.

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        1. Sess!
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Get sessengnon, ride the price rises, then switch to walters after Man U game and S'land's two games at gome to Swansea/Norwich

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          1. @FuzzyWarbles
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            was going to have sess and walters actually. does no one rate etherington at all, not even a thought about him?

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            1. Manamongst
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              I´m thinking his health can be a little shaky at times. But I would rate him as the number 1 or 2 point getter (behind Crouch or especially Walters...but most likey Walters) in the weeks to come if he can stay fit.

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              1. @FuzzyWarbles
                • 15 Years
                13 years, 11 months ago

                cheers. i dont like injury prone players 🙁

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