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Wednesday Dugout Discussion

1 February 2012 2387 comments
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After a frenetic Deadline Day Tuesday that saw an abundance of big-name moves, such as Nikica Jelavic to Everton (massive), the Dugout Discussion returns to complete Gameweek 23. We’ve got five more Premier League fixtures to pour over tonight, but with most of the big-hitters on show yesterday, fantasy points may be a little thin on the ground.

We start at Villa Park with a slightly earlier kick-off, where Alex McCleish’s side play host Mark Hughes’ Queens Park Rangers. The other four games get under way on the hour, including the televised game at the Stadium of Light between Sunderland and Norwich City (definitely worth watching ahead of Valencia Vs. Barcelona).

There’s also Blackburn Rovers versus Newcastle United, Arsenal travel to the Reebok Stadium to face Bolton Wanderers, and a Bobby Zamora-less Fulham welcome the visit of Roy Hodgson’s West Bromich Albion.

Follow all the action in our Dugout Discussion chatroom, which will remain open until all the dust has settled from what has already been an eventful Gameweek 23.

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  1. Menly
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Man: Mmm that's a tasty bench you've got there Menly...

    Menly: Why thank you! Take any of them, I'm not playing em...

    Man: But they've got a lot of points, are you sure?

    🙁 Whine over

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Same for me. 0/4 clean sheets on the pitch, 2 clean sheets plus penalty save one the bench. Both were 50/50 decisions too.

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Ah ok that's worse than my assist + cleanie on the bench

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    2. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      who de man?

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      1. Menly
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        You de man Mosstapha

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  2. embo76
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    What a tool!!! captained ade at last minute over bale. DOH!!!

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  3. COMH
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Who agrees that you should be able to select a 2-5-3 formation in FPL?

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      -1 No team plays that.

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      1. Demí
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        +1, Would hate that.

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    2. Captain Remorse
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      No, the 3 defenders add a bit more differerence between otherwise identical teams.

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    3. Johnny Unitas
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Me, I think you should be able to do any formation within reason, would really shake things up in a season where there are 4-5 defensive teams (Chelsea/United of a couple of seasons past) playing really well and 4-5 attacking teams doing really well (Spurs this season/City).

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    4. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I don't. No team plays with only 2 defenders, and if we don't care we might as well allow teams to play with two goalkeepers.

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Brazil pretty much played 3 at the back with Cafu and Bobby Carlos bombing forward.

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    5. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      No way.

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    6. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Too boring that way.

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  4. _Ninja_
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    My possible WC team, any improvements? thanks

    Krul/Mignolet
    Richards/Evans/Enrique/BAE/Caulker
    Valencia/Bale/Silva/Dempsey/McLean
    RVP/Aguero/Ba

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    1. FrankH
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Same as mine dude great team

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    2. Cooper123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Would advise against Enrique in a WC time, despite your probable value loss. Check the fixtures.

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      1. SC not pearls before swine
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I don't agree. The next 3 weeks are bad, Spurs, United and a blank. But after that the fixtures are decent with a double gameweek on the way, if you bought him at 5 million it might be worth stashing him on the bench for the next 3 weeks.

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  5. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    A) BAE > (4.4m def), Fletcher > Ba

    or

    B) Valencia > Walters, Fletcher > Ba

    B might work because the remainder of my midfield is Sess, Bale, Silva and Dempsey.

    Any thoughts?

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    1. Goose
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Why on gods green earth would u get rid of Valencia at the moment? He's on fire.

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    2. fantasykid
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Wait until you can catch a price rise for BAE, that would allow you to get an extra 0.1& then go for Taiwo (4.5). Valencia is on fire,his fixtures might be tough, but he still manages to get some decent points

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      1. Mind över Mata
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Valencia is on form, but is that going to continue with the fixtures he has. Ashley's return could mark the end of Valencia if they fight for gametime.

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          With the form he's in, Fergie will not drop Tony V, Young and Nani will battle for left-wing berth

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  6. kingbails
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Can anyone tell me if Cisse is likely to be rotated with Zamora?

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      They'll both play together.

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      1. kingbails
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        ty

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  7. Bad Pen
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Ahh so annoying that I can't see Ox's score/next game unless I click the info button on FPL.

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    1. Pat Mustard
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Saw that too!

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  8. Goose
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Skrtel & Hangeland are this week I think, so best combo:

    1) Vermaelen & Clichy
    2) Vermaelen & Huth
    3) Kompany & Huth
    4) Kompany & Clichy

    I do like the idea of doubling up in defence but this current Fulham doubling is slightly putting me off tho.

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    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      4

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      1. Goose
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Not keen on your man then?

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Nope. We might get a CS against Blackburn but Sunderland will hit us on the counter attack. He's turning out to be a card magnet aswell (although he was unlucky today, criminal dive!)

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          1. Goose
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 3 months ago

            He's got that attacking threat tho.

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      4

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    3. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      3

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      1. Goose
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I do love a bit of Huth but Stoke aren't looking overly solid at the back ATM but I do feel a goal or two is coming.

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        1. Gargamel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          They'll keep a cleanie or two pretty soon I think

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  9. Fancy Feet
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    When does the 'big numbers' article come out?

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    1. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Tonight I would imagine

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  10. Marco Del Wattsio
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    wanna bring ba/dzeko in but have defensive issues this week. bugger

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  11. LarryMurphy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    What seems to be the average this GW?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I got for 38 after autosubs.

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        go*

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    2. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      37

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    3. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I'll say 40, and then 44 after bonus

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      1. Declan-
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        ya id say 41 or 42

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  12. nandosss
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    vorm, krul,
    enrique, evans, dawson, kelly, simpson,
    valencia, dempsey, silva, bale, ben arfa,
    rvp, ade, sturridge…

    given the fixtures i really want augero and ba in my team..

    sturridge > Ba
    ade > augero
    benarfa > moses (too many newcastle players and wigan have good fixtures)
    enrique > wilkson (only way i can afford above transfers, liverpools fixtures aint great)

    anyone want to convince me otherwise?

    i’m in the top 5,000…but this will be a needed 8 point hit??

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    1. Canadian Football
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      No need for 8pt hit you wont make it up.

      Ade>Aguero is the necessary one.

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  13. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    I am beginning to think that maybe I'm playing fixtures too hard and should play form some more.

    There's many great players I immediately rule out because they have patchy fixtures. But I'm not convinced this season there's actually been a significant drop in attacking points in tougher fixtures. Goals everywhere.

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Basically what I'm saying is that there have been lots of goals this year (I believe this is borne out by the stats) and the defences have not been as tight. So it still makes sense to play attacking players in traditionally tough fixtures.

      The reverse applies to defenders, because they're letting in more goals than before, you need to cherry pick the fixtures extra well.

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      1. alsybach
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        you seem to be talking to yourself my friend...............

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I have no stats to back this up but form & fixtures usually run side by side except in exceptional circumstances like Ba this season. I am hoping Aggy finds some "form" due to his fixtures... but ideally you just want a beat that scores no matter what, like my (c) RVP 😉

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          *beast, not beat!

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        2. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 3 months ago

          Yeah form is a function of fixtures...

          this is a bit of a garbled mess I have posted, I will think this through and see if I can develop a coherent theory...

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  14. iCon
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Any update on Lindegaard? Timewise I mean...

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    1. Demí
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2095122/Manchester-United-goalkeeper-Anders-Lindegaard-ruled-weeks.html?ito=feeds-newsxml *

      *Keep in mind it's the daily fail

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    2. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      5 weeks

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      1. Geezer
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        5 weeks????? :/

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    3. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Not happy reading but cheers all the same.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        shuffles Evans in WC team

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  15. CABAYE4
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    All I can say for this week is thank god for Gareth Bale! After bonus he's gonna have half my points!

    WC played and I've just done the unthinkable (for me) - brought RVP in for the first time this season. Given up on being stubborn and decided that he's going to score at least 2 goals v Blackburn.

    Completely screwed up my WC team to do it but oh well...

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    1. threeputt
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      if you've lasted this long without him you've probably missed the boat, and arsenals run isnt great. you could probably buy a great squad without burning the cash on one man

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      1. CABAYE4
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah I should have done it about 20 GW's ago but kept telling myself he'd stop scoring/get injured.

        Thing is literally everyone will captain him this week so I could end up losing 30/40 points to all my rivals and plummet in the overall ranks. I'd take him out again in 2 or 3 weeks.

        I would go for a different Arsenal player to kind of cover but there's no good midfield option at all.

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      2. CABAYE4
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Also I haven't damaged my team much at all looking back (my WC team before was well under budget so my only change was Sturridge and Dempsey/Walcott to RVP and Moses/Gomez/M.Davies.

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  16. the axolotl
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    having a team with high value really doesnt seem as useful as in other years, with so many cheap and midprice players doing pretty much as good if not better. i thik i'm going to block fiso on my computer, has led to many a bad decision

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    1. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      You're right, FISO should never be used to decide between players because player decisions should be based on points. HOWEVER I think it's fine to use FISO to decide the timing of transfers.

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    2. David Davros
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I disagree, my rival basically has Valencia to my Dyer, and can afford to match any moves I make, proving difficult to make ground when our teams are essentially the same, except he can upgrade on any one player.

      If he forces me into a differential I wouldn't otherwise pick it;s even better for him.

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      1. the axolotl
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        fair enough but the like of rooney, lamps, gerrard, tevez, vidic, baines who are top or near top price in their positions haven't come good.

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      2. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        I never quite get this copying thing though because aren't they always 1 GW behind you if they copy you? And that 1 GW often makes all the difference between points gained and points chased?

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  17. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Did anyone watch the QPR game tonight? How did my club's player look?

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      With his eyes

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    2. Menly
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Beast. Well I didnt see it but judging by the assist on my bench, pretty well

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Would have been a great moment if I brought Taiwo in a GW earlier than planned, his assist got my rival an own goal 🙂

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  18. tezzaboy7
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    So what to do this week with my squad?

    Lindy, Krul
    BAE, Senderos, Santon, Brown, Evans
    Bale, Silva, Pilkington, McClean, Dempsey
    RVP, Berbatov, Aguero

    1FT with 3.3m in the bank.
    Brought Berbs in last week for a punt so obviously he needs to go at some stage. Injury cloud over Lindy and Brown. Berbatov most likely will not play with Rooney most likely back this week but if I can get away with just leaving him on my bench this week that would be ideal.
    Anyone willing to have a go? All suggestions welcome.

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  19. Menly
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Wow this temple run game is addictive

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      very

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    2. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      What's your high score?

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  20. Best Ba None
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    a) rooney out aguero in
    b) sturridge out ba in
    c) both for a hit

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    1. Harry Ball Bag™⚽⚽…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      C

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  21. halnone
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Bringing the Ox in this week

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    1. COMH
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      He is looking quality but the constant subbing and interfering from Wenger will infuriate you. I want him aswell but McClean is more than a million cheaper and plays 90 mins.

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    2. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Decent punt.

      Personally I thought he was dire tonight. Really showed his naiveity.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Didn't do much at all tbh.

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      2. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        should have had an assist via walcott (the tube) and even had a great chance of a goal. i like the lad.

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  22. JedJez
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Right Guys, can't make my mind up

    Nani } Tony V

    or

    Fletcher } Ba

    Also can a players price not change if there flagged? never really noticed before now

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    1. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      they can still change when flagged, just take more transfers to change it

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      1. JedJez
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Ah, cheers bud 🙂

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  23. COMH
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Team for this week

    Sorensen

    Kompany Vermaelen ?????

    Valencia Silva Bale McClean

    RVP Aguero (c) Graham

    Mignolet, Dempsey, Evans, Kelly

    ????? is either gonna be Santon or Taiwo. Who should is be?

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    1. JedJez
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Taiwo

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    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Taiwo

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  24. Chris_White
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Next weeks dilemma for me

    McClean or Dempsey

    Discuss.

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    1. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Play Dempsey... Fulham usually score against City..And they have a decent record at Eastlands

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    2. Barry
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      McClean Stoke are conceding goals lately.
      Pulis might field a weaken team with that valencia game coming up.
      Dempsey though 27 points from 2 games nat bad:)

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    3. COMH
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I have the same dilemma mate. Got McClean in just now with Dempsey 1st sub.

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  25. AP
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    McClean is currently the best bandwagon ever. I can't remember who started it, some bloody hero.

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    1. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Good shout indeed.

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    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      2 incredibly lucky assists in two weeks. Jammy!

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      1. AP
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 3 months ago

        Hah, inverse conspiracy!

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    3. SOM.... This is Fellaini�…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      I'd love to be able to take punts on players with him. Unfortunately, I need to preserve my high rank and want to maintain it rather than risk it for higher 😉

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    4. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Credit where credit's due AP.

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  26. @ImpressiveTackl
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    Ahhhhh.

    In a completely unrelated topic, I just got the Perfect Freeflow 2.0 trophy on Batman: Arkham City. Epic combo.

    Had one of these moments when I did it:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkVjkvaeFnQ

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    1. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      Hah.

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  27. nandosss
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    sturridge > Ba
    ade > augero
    benarfa > moses (too many newcastle players and wigan have good fixtures)
    enrique > wilkson (only way i can afford above transfers, liverpools fixtures aint great)

    8 point?

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  28. Barry
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    QPR have 11 strikers in the FPL game:L

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    1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      The top of the depth chart (to borrow a term from american sports) imo is: Cisse, Zamora, Macheda, Helguson. Mackie plays in midfield. I guess a lot of them will leave in the summer. DJ Campbell doesn't stand a chance anymore.

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  29. Manani
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    do anyone here follow bookie's odd to choose who to field??
    not only defender, but also attacker??

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    1. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 3 months ago

      What odds would you monitor? First goal scorer, goal scorer, hat-trick for attacking players obv, but for defenders?

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  30. Gamst - Up (?) the Rovers
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 3 months ago

    STRIKER ADVICE

    Vorm, Krul
    Simpson, Rangel, Walker, Komps, Bardsley
    Silva, Sess, SPetrov, Bale, Demps
    RVP, Helguson (5.2), Zamora (6.6) (sell value)
    Bank: 0.6

    With Cisse and Zamora up top for QPR Helgusons days are over. Zamoras switch from Fulham makes him less of a threat (although QPR is a 3-3 team and Fulham more like 0-0) in my book. I've got 1 FT and guess I should transfer Helguson first. Who do I get?

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