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Sunday Dugout Discussion

4 March 2012 4248 comments
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Sunday brings us three Premier League matches, with events kicking off at midday with the Tyne-Wear derby clash and culminating with the titanic clash at White Hart Lane. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will be around to soak your reactions as the day progresses.

The team news from the Sports Direct Arena brings us no surprises in the Newcastle lineup with Papiss Cisse shaking off a groin problem to partner Demba Ba up front. Martin O’Neill has given us food for thought, however, drafting in Nicklas Bendtner in attack, presumably shifting Stephane Sessegnon to a support role. Jack Colbak makes way, while Phil Bardsley recovers form a calf problem to take his place in the back four.

Enjoy the game, and the Fulham vs Wolves and Tottenham vs Man United clashes later today and pop into to the Dugout Discussion for some real-time Fantasy Football bantering.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Why on earth would the fans of any club want Rafa to be their next manager?

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    1. Abominable Snowy84
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      fact

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    2. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      +1 AVB was bad but not THAT bad, he cost Chelsea close to 30 million.

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    3. Bad Pen
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Purely for the entertainment value of making him do the raffle at half time? Rafa Raffle!

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    4. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      simple answer is because he's one of the best managers in the game. have you seen the trophies he's won in his career?

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      1. David Davros
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        aaaaaaaaaahahahahahhahahahahahah

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        1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          you don't think?

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          1. David Davros
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            One of the best manager's in the game? Absolutely not!

            He did well in Europe but Liverpool were shocking tactically towards the end, he made some absolutely insane selection choices. Was awful at Inter.

            Not saying he is a terrible manager completely, but if I were a Chelsea fan I wouldnt want him near tbh.

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            1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              People really forget just how bad he was at Inter, with an even better team than Jose had won CL with

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            2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
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              14 years, 1 month ago

              imo i would say he is definitely one of the best. the media here didn't like him because he was a cheeky bastard but as a manager he is brilliant. tactically he is a sharp manager, always a tough game against any of his sides. if you look at his time at liverpool they were always a tough team to beat with him there, for the first time in years he made them a force, without even spending much money. he got screwed over by the owners not having money but he still did pretty well for them if you consider he had to buy free transfers and sell players to fund new ones.

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      2. udit
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        😯

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      3. Blando
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Tactically he's normally bang on. Allocate him transfer money at your peril though...

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    5. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      He knows how to deal with £50m Torres. He is also a very good manager. Did terrific with Valencia and won Champions league with pool.

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      1. jas5sk - Youtube channel
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        The only way to deal with Torres is to sell him!

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      2. Simon March
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I don't buy into this - Benitez was in charge when Torres began his spiral into terrible form. Not to say he was necessarily at fault for that, but he certainly didn't get the best out of him in his last season at Liverpool.

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  2. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    My plan before this GW was always Sess-> Moses to rotate with McClean. However my knee is desperate to jerk towards Gylfi despite S'land and Swansea having horrific rotation.

    What to do?

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Gylfi scored two away yesterday. Rotation is a myth.

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      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        In fairness it was against Wigan. He does look good, but I'm not sure whether he warrants a nailed on position in my starting XI week-in week-out though. Hence rotation

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        1. Gaz Downright
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          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          good luck with that

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  3. Nickyboy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    What do you reckon, McClean or Sigurdsson for the next few weeks? I know Siggy is grabbing the headlines (and the probably the price rises) but looks like McClean has better fixtures...

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    1. Spoiler
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      mclean..

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      1. Nickyboy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        ta, I think that's the way forward yeah

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  4. Spoiler
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    repost

    thoughts on suarez for the dbgw possibly for aguero? also if chelsea beat brum am i right city and chelsea miss gw29?

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    1. drunken_mess
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      im thinking of suarez, will have to take a hit for him. probably take Ba out

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    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      No - Game will most likley move from Monday to Wednesday

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    3. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      i'll be doing aguero & graham out for rooney & suarez this week. re: chelsea vs city fixture, yes i think you are right

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    4. Declan
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Im WCing and will have RVP, Rooney, Suarez

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  5. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    So Roman has sorted out Spurs problem of who to replace 'Arry with, nice chap!

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      no way

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  6. Wuffs
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    (c) 0
    (vc) -2
    First sub -2

    You have to laugh at this game at times. 🙂

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Funnily enough if Ba had scored he'd be on 7/8 or 14/16 after captaincy.

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    2. Skorge88
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Cheer up, if Bale doesn't play, you get 15 points from McAuley! ;D

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  7. PintPounders
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Rvp for captain for the rest of the season?

    I thought I'd get good points out of Ba, RTaylor & Sess, oops! Sess to Drenthe?

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    1. Nickyboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      He's never going below VC for me again, I can say that much! (Aguero (c) Silva (vc))

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    2. thetinkerman
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      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      The short answer is yes 😉

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  8. Sleep Talk
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone notice that the AVB-sacked-news came in the BBClive page at 1337? 😛

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    1. Nickyboy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      ha, yup

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  9. Balotellitubbies
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Will anyone miss the perpeually crouching Portugeezer?

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    1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Utd, City, Spurs, Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool fans may

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  10. My name is an echo
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    dempsey in as capt - need him to bring home the bacon

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    1. zoltar74
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      The pattern of events so far indicate Demsey pen miss folloed by a Red ...

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      1. Sleep Talk
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        ... and all that before 59 minutes have gone..

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  11. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Another shot on target for Dempsey 🙂

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  12. Balotellitubbies
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    AVB for England? 😀

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    1. Gaz Downright
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      he IS half Ingurlish

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  13. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Sess to Ramiers?

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  14. COMH
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Does a -2 penalty miss become -4 as captain?

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    1. udit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yes.

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        My rival finds himself in this situation 🙂

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        1. udit
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          As does Disparate Dan 😀 Can't laugh though had Ba myself.

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      2. Wuffs
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Oh sh#t! if that's the case.

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    2. Viper
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yep 🙂

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    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      All points are doubled aye.

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    4. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yurt.

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    5. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yep

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    6. kennethrhcp
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      not really, it remains a -2, it's the overall score of the -1 that will be doubled

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      1. kennethrhcp
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        just realised that's the same thing!!! -2 overall points... damn hangover

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  15. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    So people with Aguero(C) and Silva(VC) ended up beating me.

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  16. matiakez
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    So may back 5 between them brought in 2 points.....

    Disasterous week thank god for Gylfi and RVP!

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  17. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Blinkin heck Riise started celebrating. great save

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  18. Spencer
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    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Come on Captain America - 10 goals today please!

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  19. Bad Pen
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Riise looking very lively.

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  20. COMH
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Riise in my Sky team. Go on son!

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  21. Jukesy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Feeling confident of some attacking points with Riise and Senderos here, red cards to follow.

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  22. Torreslove
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    mignolet,vorm
    richards,evans,williams,kelly, raylor
    valencia,mcclean,demps,bale,sess
    rvp,ba,aguero
    3.1 in the bank

    thinking of
    richards>>enrique
    valencia>>adam
    aguero>>rooney

    sensible or knee jerk??

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  23. afcblegend
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Re: AVB

    Okay, he wasn't great and you're judged on results. But firstly, the players just aren't up to scratch. Cahill, Ramires, Bosingwa, Luiz et al. aren't going to win you championships. And secondly, the behaviour of some of the player like Terry situation and Lampard kicking his toys out the pram aren't going to help anyone. Wouldn't be surprised if some dirty laundry is aired in the next couple of weeks.

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  24. Somalion
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    I think the AVB thing has set a very bad trend for Chelsea. When the likes of Lamps don't like a manager they will now kick up a fuss and cry to Abramovich until they get their way. I'm not saying that AVB was flawless, had a lot of things he didn't handle well but at the end of the day you fall in line with the manager and do the job he requests of you. If it still falls apart after that that's a different story but the likes of Lamps straight away was against AVB, possibly because he's getting on now and has his position more at risk. Just my view on it though. I think you'd have to be mad to want to be the Chelsea manager right now.

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    1. Hate that rotation
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Agree with you. Even if Hiddink was manager Im sure he would have dropped Lampard. AVB was trying to rejuvinate Chelsea with some pace and youth. It takes time to "rebuild". At the end of the day, Drogba, Terry and lamps carry more power in the dressing room than the manager.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        That's exactly it. Too much power with the players, feel bad for AVB. The likes of Abramovich are too impatient and when he isn't 100% behind the manager it instantly causes that tension.

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    2. COMH
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah the whole dynamic at the club is wrong. Player power rules and if they don't like who is in charge they will defy the manager and won't support anything he does. And players like Terry, Lampard, Cole & Drogba have such influence at the club that other players follow suit. AVB has the backing of the Portuguese/Brazilian players but the club is divided. You need everyone pulling in the right direction.

      But like you say this will keep happening at Chelsea until they address the personnel at the club.

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      1. Somalion
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        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah I just can't see it getting better until the dynamic is set. Owner owns the club and provides the funding. Players play football. Manager controls the players and the players listen to him.

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      The same happened at Liverpool with Roy Hodgson.

      Broken down ego maniac players controlling a club, which they will soon leave anyway.

      Look at Liverpool now they got their way, and Hodgson. I rest my case.

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      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        very true, I really liked Hodgson as a manager and am chuffed that West Brom is going well enough for him.

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  25. Hate that rotation
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Fulham are really going for it but need to feed Demps.

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    1. fredwestham
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I agree...I can see a few goals for Fulham this afternoon...just need to hope Dempsey is involved!

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  26. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Let the Sess > Sig bandwagon begin. And more $ for us lot what bought him early

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    1. cstan11
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      not sure if I want to sell Sess, he will only bring in 6.8 for me, which really isn't enough for any decent midfielder 🙁

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  27. bmb100
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Fulham and Dempsey looking very lively.

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  28. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Sess to who?

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ryo

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      1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        WHos that?

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        1. COMH
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Myachi

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      2. udit
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        SHhhh

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    2. denial
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Was thinking McClean, but Sess and Cattermole will be serving bans (may or may not have an impact on him). Ryo or Siggy for me.

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    3. bmb100
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Morrison, everyone seems to have forgot him suddenly after one week without doing anything.

      Lovely fixtures after United.

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I'm getting him in! Drenthe in for a DGW gamble then a straight swap to Morrison after that.

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  29. Call Me Old Fashioned
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    If Valencia is fit for next week, how does these sound for a -8. Need to freshen things up with team and stagnating rank.

    1 Taiwo, Ba, Aguero----> Skrtel, Holt/Yakubu, Rooney
    2 Taiwo, Ba, Aguero----> Enrique, Pog, Rooney

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    1. Tim Canterbury
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      not great

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        think i should keep ba? just looking for something different to rivals

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  30. Dynamic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Bap prediction for Newcastle match?

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