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The 2012/13 Premier League campaign may be about to get underway but with the transfer window still open and players still trickling back from the golf course and international duty, a number of unanswered questions have mounted up. In the first of a series of pre-season articles, we identify these “Burning Questions” and fire them at our resident contributors, in the hope that somewhere amongst their rambling, there’s a source of enlightenment.

We begin by examining that now familiar phenomenon, asssessing Everton’s chances of avoiding a false start.

Last season was a perfect example of Everton’s problematic start to a campaign; with the spectre of the transfer window once again leaving the cash strapped side unable to land the players it so desperately needed, whilst exposing them to the advances of wealthier suitors. The departure of Spanish playmaker Mikel Arteta to Arsenal in the summer transfer window was particularly costly, as Everton notched up seven defeats by Christmas. Come 2012 the wind of change blew strongly across Merseyside, with the January window ushering in former player Steven Pienaar on loan and Croatian striker Nikica Jelavic from Rangers on a permanent basis. The new additions helped Everton achieve a nine–match unbeaten run and finish a very respectable seventh.

So far this season’s preparation is going far better. Pienaar has returned to the club and in Jelevic they have a settled and proven goalscorer, who has been joined by fellow former Rangers forward Steven Naismith. The ageing legs of Tim Cahill’s have departed to the New York Red Bulls and that may have opened the door for Everton’s other midfield talent to shine: Marouane Fellaini and Darron Gibson look set to profit. Despite being handed an opener against United, the fixture computer has also been reasonably kind to them with their first six games (MUN, avl, wba, NEW, swa, SOT). But will this be enough for Everton to tear up their dire early season form book?

Big Dunc says…
You have to go back to 2004-05 season for the last time Everton had a really strong start – they were sat in third place at Christmas and their eventual fourth place saw them qualify for the Champions League for the first time (only to be knocked out ahead of the group stages). Every year since, Moyes has been desperately trying to recreate that early season form and has failed miserably almost every time. As an Everton fan, I’ve got to be realistic and I believe that we’ve started badly because we just haven’t had the team to really challenge – the fact that Moyes has been able to get the very best out of his players as the season goes on and consistently finish strongly, is a testament to just how incredible a manager he really is.

This season feels different though. Previous seasons have seen us dogged by long drawn out transfer sagas, and the loss of Pienaar and Arteta last summer had a catastrophic effect on the structure of the team. The additions of Jelavic and Gibson in January, and then Pienaar and Naismith early in the summer window, however, means we will be starting with the strongest team we’ve had in years – there’s a natural balance to the side now and only the potential loss of Leighton Baines, who has been linked with Manchester United, could disrupt that. I’ll be backing Jelavic in a big way this season – I can see the vast majority of play coming through the Croatian, and he’s more than capable of over 20 goals this term – including his time at Rangers, he’s done it three years in a row now. If you’re looking for an early season differential then Fellaini could be well worth a punt – with Naismith likely to be used sparingly at first, I can see the big man pushed forwards and he should provide strong value across the games.

Mark says…
Is this bad start business merely a myth? This season should certainly test it to the full. Arguably Everton go into their opening game against United with one of the most settled squads, while David Moyes will have confidence in his tactics and personnel. The signing of Pienaar is, of course, absolutely key and with Nikaca Jelavic available from the get-go, I’d personally be very surprised if we didn’t see Everton destroy the hoodoo and be amongst the leading pack after the first couple of months. Will I back that view with some Fantasy investment? I’m still not sure. This time last year I was strongly considering Leighton Baines at 8.0, so why am I currently overlooking him at just 7.0? I’m still trying to work that one out – perhaps it’s the talk of a move to Old Trafford. Along with Thomas Vermaelen, Baines is the defensive wildcard who could rip it up and prove an outstanding differential.

Darron Gibson also deserves a mention – if Pienaar is too rich for you, Gibson, in the budget bracket looks an assured starter and has promised more goals. With Cahill now departed, we might even see Moyes release the shackles and give him licence to get within range with that howitzer shot of his.

Paul says…
With Steven Pienaar back in the fold on a permanent basis and Nikica Jelavic installed up top as the lone frontman, I don’t anticipate Everton will start quite so badly as they have done in recent seasons but I expect David Moyes’ men, as always, to have their customary strong finish. I feel that the reason as to why the Toffees continually do better in the final few months of each campaign is mainly down to one issue – fitness. There must be some explanation for the pattern; it’s not as if Moyes only manages to rally his troops with a few months of each term remaining. With Everton’s budget nowhere near many of their Premier League counterparts, Moyes is canny enough to gain an advantage over his rivals in every possible way and while many teams fail to maintain their results as the months go by and begin to flounder, the Goodison outfit are able to go from strength to strength in comparison. Consistency should be better, then, and with Jelavic’s deadly eye for goal up front, Baines could well return to the Fantasy form of 2010/11, with the Croatian and Pienaar looking strong value for their prices – the Sky Sports game also looks ideal for the South African in particular, with Marouane Fellaini a good bet here, too.

New boy Steven Naismith – if he can stay clear of injury – could also be a decent punt; reasonably priced across the Fantasy games, his previous partnership with Jelavic at Glasgow Rangers could come to fruition in the Premier League if he’s handed a regular role in “the hole” as a result of Tim Cahill’s departure to New York Red Bulls.

Anorak says…
Why not? It’s become a tradition in the last few years, so much so that questions about Moyes’ inability to construct that perfect pre-season and motivate his charges to begin with a bang have been heard loud and clear. However, this year things are slightly different in the build up, with the unfamiliar sights of both a settled squad and a couple of first team signings in the shape of Steven Pienaar and Steven Naismith sure to lift spirits of both the team and fans alike. Add to that the return of Jack Rodwell, and the potential form of Nikica Jelavić and Everton could even be a team to be reckoned with in early season.

My pick of the Toffees though would be the big Belgian, Marouane Fellaini – with Tim Cahill now plying his trade in the US, Fellaini will again be asked to push on this season and as he has already shown in the past, he’s a consistent danger against even the best sides, including their first opponents of the campaign Manchester United.

Stilicho says…
They can and they will. Various theories have been postulated to explain Everton’s perennially pedestrian starts: unusual training methods, a government conspiracy, a gypsy curse. Compelling as these explanations are, the truth is simple – Moyes does it deliberately for dramatic effect.

Justly commended for punching above their weight in recent years, the Toffees’ boss has taken to basing his entire strategy around the narrative structure of the Rocky films. First he raises the humble expectations of his squad with a grueling, montage-ridden training camp. Next he raises the tension by insisting they spend the first few months of the season staggering limply around Goodison and enduring a remorselessly pummeling at the hands of whoever happens to show up. Before Christmas, when all hope seems lost, he pulls a lopsided grimace and lets loose an incoherent exclamation – the signal for the Toffees’ triumphant fight back to upper-mid-table redemption. The music plays, everybody exclaims what a wonderful manager he is, and still nobody offers him a better job.

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  1. Yossi
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    Good afternoon everyone! Not starting with any Everton myself, although Jelly is oh so tempting :)....

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    1. Hank Scorpio
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      Agreed - I feel with Everton there is a few weeks grace to be given before possibly jumping on - by then we should know how they are looking, who is on form etc...

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      1. Yossi
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        Yep,I'm ready to do Michu-> Pienaar if Michu doesn't turn out to be the next Siggy!

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    2. VougieDipond
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      No Everton to start but will be watching them closely

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  2. pdc
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    so the prevailing wisdom is torres>rooney before gw3, who's everyone thinking to replace hazard/mata/lamps?

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    1. pdc
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      btw i'm starting with pienaar

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    2. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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      Definitely a Spurs player (Siggy or Bale). After tough games against new and WBA they have an awesome run: NOR, rdg, QPR, (mun), AVL, (CHE), sot, WGN

      Another option is Dempsey (if he stays) after a tough away game against United in GW2, he has very easy matches.

      You could also go a sneak Sess or Larsson/McClean if they have a good 2 GWs as they also have good early fixtures.

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      1. pdc
        • 13 Years
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        Sounds like confidence in Sunderland. 6.5m midfielders seems like the most crowded position in the game to me

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        1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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          I think they have the potential to be pretty decent this year. I agree that there are many options in the 6.5 bracket but Larsson should come up with a few assists and is one pens and set pieces I believe.

          Sess is one that can go either way. OOP, could be a bargain but would want to see him in action before jumping on.

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      2. B.P.R.D.
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        avl is a recipe for goals after a difficult home game to Utd.

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        1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
          • 13 Years
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          But then games against wba and NEW aren't exactly easy.
          I think GW5 is definitely the best time to get on board.

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    3. pdc
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      Ok I'll continue the conversation myself - I'm thinking it depends on where dempsey ends up, as I'm a red. the extra 0.5 for silva also seems like a steal

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  3. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
    • 13 Years
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    Is anyone having any Everton players from the start?

    Their first 4 fixtures are pretty difficult (MUN, avl, wba, NEW) but after GW4, it's pretty damn good.

    I would love to Jelavic in GW5 but can't fit him in a forward line of Rooney, Aguero and Graham/Petric.
    Another option is Pienaar (if he moves).

    Thoughts?

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    1. Hank Scorpio
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      Pienaar has already moved.

      I'm keeping a watching brief on Everton until GW4, after which I will consider some Toffee Targets.

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      1. Heisenberg:Crystal Meth Pal…
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        Wow, I'm behind. He's definitely one to look out for then.

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  4. Go_To_Sleep1
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    Thoughts on my team?

    Given (Federeci)

    Hangeland / walker / s taylor (harte, cylde)

    Yaya Toure/ Bale/ Lampard/ Valencia (Noble)

    Aguero/ Torres Graham

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    1. Go_To_Sleep1
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      13 years, 9 months ago

      Correction Tevez instead of Aguero

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  5. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    Hmm. Gibson. Not really considered him yet. I agree on Fellaini too - fancy him to do well.

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    1. Hank Scorpio
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      Gibson could be a decent budget option for sure.

      I think Fellaini will be good if he plays forward as he did at the end of last season, however, we will need to see whether Naismith is used very much, as he could play in that role and force Fellaini back into a more orhtodox midfield role.

      Assuming everybody is fit, Everton midfield would line up something like:

      Osman - Rodwell - Gibson - Pienaar
      Fellaini

      Naismith could slot in where Fella is though, and Fella drop backwards when/if Rodwell gets his usual 3 month injury.

      Also expect Barkley to get some minutes.

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  6. SWANS ARE BACK!
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    Repost from the last page got lost!
    Iam New to this, so can I get a RMT!
    De Gea Federici
    Lescott Cole A McCartney Cuellar Coloccini
    Noble Bale Yaya Toure Guthrie Larsson
    Aguero Torres Petric
    Thanks I Appreciated your help

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    1. SWANS ARE BACK!
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      oh and 2 million in the bank for Torres to Rooney

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    2. Tatty Bojangles
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      13 years, 9 months ago

      I like it

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    3. Brian (Not the Messiah)
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      needs commas

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  7. Dingle
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    13 years, 9 months ago

    Would like people's opinions on my team. Any advice appreciated.

    Reina (Cerny)

    Lescott Clyne Shawcross (Demel Barnett)

    Hazard Bale Pienaar Kagawa (Allen)

    Tevez Cisse Jelavic

    Thinking Hazard to Dempsey if Hazard flops.

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    1. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Reina? Really?

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      1. Conrad.
        • 14 Years
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        😆

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    2. Hank Scorpio
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      Reina, Shawcross, Pienaar, Jelavic, Cisse, Kagawa.

      You can make an argument to avoid all of them for the first few weeks.

      I would tweak to include a few safer options to start with and then start to bring in people as they prove themselves as either on form, first choice, or their fixtures improve.

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  8. QOTSA
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    Definitely best to wait on Pienaar and Jelavic. Probably get Pienaar in my team once I WC or around the GW2/3/4 mark once I downgrade Mata but I don't trust them enough to start with any of their players. It's all about a solid start afterall.

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  9. Damo.
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    13 years, 9 months ago

    Nice article lads. More of these please.

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    1. Damo.
      • 16 Years
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      *soon please

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    2. J0E
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 9 months ago

      got many more of these planned.

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      1. Damo.
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 9 months ago

        Nice one Jonty. Great idea man, it's like a podcast in text format.

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  10. Manani
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    nice!
    exactly what I was thinking

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    1. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
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      I was just thinking of something else! 😉

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      1. blue cheese
        • 14 Years
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        😀

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        1. Crouch Potato!
          • 14 Years
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          Are you thinking what I'm thinking?

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          1. Test Eagles
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
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            Exactly

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          2. blue cheese
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            Of course! 😉

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            1. Crouch Potato!
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              13 years, 9 months ago

              Shit, league 4 lookin tricky! 🙂

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  11. Conrad.
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    13 years, 9 months ago

    Stevie P is in my squad and I might add Hibbs or Jelly if they look good early on.

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  12. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    So Katie fights the Russian, should be good 🙂

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 9 months ago

      Someone said on the last thread that she was Irelands greatest athlete... If your best athlete is a girl who punches other girls it's not looking good... 😉

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      1. Bøwstring The Carp
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        13 years, 9 months ago

        Whats wrong with a female being our best athlete? We've had many great female athletes; Derval O' Rourke, Micelle Smith and Sonia O' Sullivan. Although our specialty is boxing with the likes of Sutherland, Eagan and Nevin.

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 9 months ago

          I've always wondered what the definitition of athlete was, I would call boxers sportsman rather than athletes.

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          1. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 9 months ago

            People who do athletics.

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        2. Damo.
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 9 months ago

          Jees I don't know about Michelle Smith man :-). I'd agree with Ginkapo too I wouldn't use the term athlete.

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  13. Grippa
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    Does anyone know if the Player Projections have been updated since they were released last week?

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    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 19 Years
      13 years, 9 months ago

      We updated them yesterday. They're due another refresh tonight/early tomorrow.

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      1. FORCA INTER
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        13 years, 9 months ago

        Petric goes up in valute after every update 😀

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  14. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    I think Pienaar, Fellaini and Gibson are great options who have been very generously priced this season. Jelavic will do well, and his price hike reflects that.

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    1. Mr Blue
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      13 years, 9 months ago

      Naismith is not overpriced either imo, scored very well last season (11 apps, 9 goals),
      I guess the big Q is who gets to play in the hole, Fellaini or Naismith?
      Jelavic, imo, could become a "must have"

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      1. Hank Scorpio
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 9 months ago

        I think Naismith will have to work his way into the team. Moyes likes to stick to what he knows generally - but if Naismith does start to get minutes, it will likely be in that 'hole' position - or can he also play outwide (i.e. threaten Osman on the right)?

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    2. Yossi
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      13 years, 9 months ago

      Cheers Jonty, great article!

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    3. Hank Scorpio
      • 14 Years
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      Gibson in particular could prove to hold a very generous price if he manages to get forward more (but I'm not sure he will given Everton's other midfield personnel).

      If Baines moves to United, then it will get really interesting - would this make Pienaar even more desirable (more set pieces etc...), or would it actually make Pienaar, Jelly etc... less desirable given the Baines/Pienaar partnership seems such a key component of Everton's attacking play?

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  15. Conrad.
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    anyone think RvP to ManU will up Tony V's value? nearly every ball he crosses into the box will be put away by RvP or Roon, eh?!

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    1. Mr Blue
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 9 months ago

      +100%

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  16. Scroobius Mac
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    13 years, 9 months ago

    I agree with Stilicho. It's all a clever rouse in Moyes' part.

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  17. Messi & fabregas
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    A) aguero + 6.0 midfielder

    or

    b) Tevez + kawaga ?

    cant decide....

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  18. Podge
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    Dzeko 10/11 to stay at City this transfer window with P Powers. Seems like a huge price, is there a rumour of a move ?

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 9 months ago

      to acmilan for 25m

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  19. Mazzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    Would appreciate an RMT - first ever 🙂

    DE GEA / jussi

    TERRY / LESCOTT / IVANOVIC / HANGELLAND / cuellar

    SIGGY / SILVA / MICHU / NOBLE / dyer

    POG / GRAHAM / AGUERO

    £1.5 mill in the bank and would be unsure who to start between noble and michu. Could take the issue out by upgrading muchu to laarson/sess as west ham and sunderland's fixtures compliment each other pretty well.

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    1. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 9 months ago

      too much spent on defense imo

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      1. Mazzy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 9 months ago

        cheers harris - any specific person you'd downgrade / upgrade?

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        1. Messi & fabregas
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 9 months ago

          upgrade pog for sure and ivanovic (6.5 to 4.5) and silva to lampard/ yaya maybe to save a few more

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    2. pdc
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 9 months ago

      thats a lot of swans, but otherwise good. close to mine

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  20. Beavis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    Is Gibson nailed on then?

    What's their front 6?

    Osman--Fellaini - Gibson - Pienaar
    ------------Naismith--Jelavic---------

    or Neville in place of Naismith and Fellaini behind the striker?

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    1. Conrad.
      • 14 Years
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      thats the 6, but Nais will be behind Jelly with Pienaar and Osman on the wings. Fellaini / Gibson will be behind the front 4.

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      1. Mr Blue
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 9 months ago

        Rodwell?

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        1. Conrad.
          • 14 Years
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          nah, i'd say Osman is favored over Rodwell.

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  21. Kings of Lyon ★
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    Great article lads.

    Especially liked Stilchos theory.

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    1. The Light Knight
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      13 years, 9 months ago

      Snap!!! (the 1st part anyway)

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  22. The Light Knight
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    Great article lads, although I am annoyed that you have given away Darron 🙂

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  23. B.P.R.D.
    • 14 Years
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    FWIW I'm going with Baines from the start. He's currently the highest value per point defender at 7.0 (and Top 10 overall) with a predicted 2.5 goals/6 assists for the season.

    I think a more accurate prediction would be 4 goals/10 assists with Jelavic/Pienaar/Gibson to play alongside which puts him way out in front as one of the best value players in the game, nevermind the fact that you're forced in to playing 3 defenders a week anyway.

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  24. gclarke5
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    Afternoon chaps, after spending hours trailing through the recent articles and player listing on return flights to Florida…. pls RMT draft # 146-

    Friedel, Green
    Rio, Cuellar, Hangaland, Clark, McCartney
    Bale, Hazard, Taarabt, Pienaar, Noble
    Torres (+2m Roon), Aguero, Petric

    Was considering Michu for Pienaar?? All thoughts appreciated....

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  25. Squerly4568
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    13 years, 9 months ago

    probably the best title to an article ever!

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  26. Tiki-Taka
    • 15 Years
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    Jelavic wikipedia page:

    Barcelona

    After impressing to the end of the 2012 season Barcelona manager tito vilanova snapped him up for a 12.5 million pound bid, he passed his medical on the 8th of august 2012, he has been given the number 27 shirt, jelavic said he couldn't turn this offer down and that he loved his time in england/

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    1. Conrad.
      • 14 Years
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      lmao!

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    2. Tiki-Taka
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      Lmao it's just been corrected now, at least he loved his time in England

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
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      epic 😆

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  27. lufc27
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 9 months ago

    Provisional squad

    Vorm
    Cole Clichy Rangel Cuellar

    Cabaye Snodgrass Ramires Bale

    Aguero Wellbeck Let me know what you think.

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    1. Yossi
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 9 months ago

      Welbeck won't get the games, unfortunately

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    2. Tatty Bojangles
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 9 months ago

      Welbeck and Clichy not nailed on. I like the Snodgrass punt and nice to see Vorm in a team.

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  28. Sigga -Cardiff City-
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    rvp news?

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    1. Tatty Bojangles
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      Nope

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    2. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
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      Betting of him going to United have stopped... looking a bit more likely he is going that way.

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    3. Conrad.
      • 14 Years
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      bookies stopped taking bets on his move to ManU. seems imminent.

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    4. QOTSA
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      13m and a waste of space.

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