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24 August 2012 1274 comments
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Wigan accept Chelsea’s offer for Victor Moses. Younes Kaboul is a doubt for Spurs ahead of a strong run of home fixtures, Clint Dempsey is unavailable for Fulham’s trip to Old Trafford, while Newcastle and Liverpool rings the changes for their Europa League games ahead of weekend clashes with Chelsea and City respectively…

Wigan have confirmed they have accepted a bid from Chelsea for the services of Victor Moses. After a summer-long chase, it looks like the winger could be off to the Bridge – a move that virtually kills off his Fantasy appeal and immediately promotes Ryo Miyaichi in our thinking. The on-loan Japanese star now looks the likeliest to find a place alongside Shaun Maloney behind a lone striker for the Latics; coming in at 5.0 in FPL and 4.6 in the Sky Sports game, Miyaichi looks an enticing prospect ahead of a schedule that see his face (sot, STK, FUL) over the next four Gameweeks.

Martin Jol has omitted Clint Dempsey from the Fulham squad once again for the trip to Old Trafford this weekend. The US international has been agitating for a move away from the Cottage in recent months and failed to feature in last week’s hammering of Norwich and, speaking to the club’s official website, the Cottagers’ boss revealed he was frustrated at the situation but keen for the player to stay:

“Mentally Clint wants to move, he doesn’t want to stay here. His head was turned and that was the problem. It’s a problem and a situation you don’t want. It’s not something you can talk to a player about every day because he doesn’t want to. I don’t know if he’ll remain a Fulham player. I’d love to keep him, but I’m not sure. Hopefully if he stays, then in the next couple of weeks he will change his thoughts about us. With me there’s no problem and I don’t think there’s a problem within the team over him.”

It’s likely to see Alex Kacaniklic continue on the left wing for the United match – the Swede grabbed a goal in last weekend’s thrashing of Norwich and currently looks strong value at just 4.5 in FPL and 4.2 in the Sky Sports game. With Kacaniklic offering Fulham more width on the left than Dempsey tends to afford, John Arne-Riise was able to push on from left-back and grabbed an assist in the Canaries rout, suggesting the Norwegian’s attacking potential could also be boosted if the American does indeed depart before the transfer window closes.

Andre Villas-Boas has revealed that Younes Kaboul is a doubt for Spurs’ home clash with West Brom tomorrow. The Frenchman’s troublesome knee problem has surfaced once again and, with Seb Bassong moving to Norwich and Michael Dawson looking likely to leave, the scene could be set for Jan Vertonghen to finally make his debut. The Belgian was a surprise omission for the trip to Newcastle in Gameweek 1, with William Gallas preferred as Kaboul’s central defensive partner, but is odds-on to start against the Baggies, with Steven Caulker set to miss out once again. Gallas, priced at 5.0 in FPL and 5.3 in the Sky Sports game, could well be an enticing prospect over a run of fixtures that sees (WBA, NOR, QPR, AVL) all rolling up to the Lane over the next six Gameweeks.

Alan Pardew made nine changes for Newcastle’s Europa League trip to Atromitos last night, with only James Perch and Papiss Cisse (who came through 77 minutes unscathed) remaining from the side that saw off Spurs at the weekend. The Newcastle boss was still without Fabricio Coloccini and the Ameobi brothers – all three missed the Spurs match – and rolled out a 4-2-3-1 formation, with Ryan Taylor at right-back. Taylor’s set-piece duties again came to the fore as the defender netted a free-kick to earn the Magpies a 1-1 draw. It’s a quick-turnaround now for Pardew’s side – they now play Chelsea tomorrow evening, with changes aplenty once again on the agenda as they seek to halt the Blues’ winning run. Given last night’s line-up, it seems like Danny Simpson and Davide Santon will be the full-backs tasked with stopping Eden Hazard and Juan Mata in Saturday’s late kick-off.

Brendan Rodgers made seven changes from the side that lost to West Brom at the weekend as Liverpool travelled to Hearts on European duties. Jamie Carragher played alongside Daniel Agger in defence; with the Dane suspended for City’s visit on Sunday, the Reds’ vice-skipper looks nailed-on to play. The likes of Steven Gerrard, Luis Suarez, Glen Johnson and Lucas were given the night off, with the latter an unused sub but their lack of cutting edge in front of goal continued – the 1-0 win at Tynecastle came courtesy of an Andy Webster own goal. Rodgers also revealed Andy Carroll was due to start the game but pulled out after sustaining a hamstring problem.

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  1. Messiah Hazard
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    • 14 Years
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    http://www.chelseafc.com/news-article/article/2898781/title/azpilicueta-signs

    Chelsea have signed Azpilicueta... What do you guys think? I feel he will be the priced at 5.0/5.5...

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    1. Kevin Twine
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      6.0 or 6.5 I think.

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    2. PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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      No chelsea defender that could expect proper game time will be priced less than 6.0 - more likely 6.5 IMO.

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      1. tommygun
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        Agreed - will probably affect Ivanovic's game time too.

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      2. Messiah Hazard
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        Even if he is unproven in the Premier League or not played for a big team yet?

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    3. J0E
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      Id be nervous is I was a IVan owner...but on the other hand if I was an Ivan owner after his expoits this week I don't think anything would bother me as I luxuriate in his sumptious points.

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      1. Kings of Lyon ★
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        luxuriate - cracking word !

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  2. Connor's Calling
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    Friedel or DDG pls?

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      DDG

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      1. Connor's Calling
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        thanks

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    2. Kevin Twine
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      DDG

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    3. RenNy
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      DDG

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    4. Messiah Hazard
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      Friedel.. much better fixtures...

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  3. Hay Number 2
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    Does anyone see any further price rises?

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      THIS GW

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    2. Screaming Midget
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      Michu and Hazard tonight, I think.

      Don't worry though. People are getting way over excited about the odd .1 increments. I always had plenty in the bank last season.

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      1. Hay Number 2
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        True....I never really worry about all that, just wondering if I should do my team now or tonight.

        Cheers though

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      2. Billy Gilmore
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        Michu shouldn't be able to rise again as he's already gone up 0.3. Tevez, Hazard, Dyer? Barfa? Nasri?

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      3. Jebiga
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        Michu will not ! he already increased 0.3 per GW and ppls still bringing him in, but it writes 0%
        http://development.totalfpl.com/pricechanges

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    3. PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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      michu and ba this morning - tevez and hazard again tonight with Ben Arfa Dyer & Nasri all possibilities - check http://crackthecode.fiso.co.uk/home.html for rises.

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      1. Hay Number 2
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        Cheers for the link.....very helpful. 🙂

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  4. cuterandy
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    Rooney or Michu, whom should i give armband?

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      Rooney....not cause he's the safe option......he will bang em in this weekend. IMO

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  5. biju
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    kagawa might rise this weekend, there was sm1 sayin michu might rise to 7 this weekend

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  6. Derailed Bandwagon
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    SKY SOURCES: Adam Johnson in talks with Sunderland over potential move there.

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    1. Hay Number 2
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      Great signing for sunderland if it pans out.....then I will consider slappin him in me team!

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      1. Christina.
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        7m? No thanks.

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    2. Kings of Lyon ★
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      As a McLean owner this worries me

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      1. Willis.
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        Isn't AJ a right-winger?

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  7. u01nrd2
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    Good stuff.

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  8. The Bandit
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    NBTM

    Quote from AVB re VdV

    "He was a player that came back to us late so the selection was pretty straightforward for Gylfi Sigurdsson in the game against Newcastle.

    "Now Rafa has trained with us all week and he’s looking strong and is in contention.

    "He’s a player of great importance for us. I’m not sure if Hamburg are interested but he’s a player who at the moment is not for sale."

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    1. J0E
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      13 years, 8 months ago

      Those words make this VDV owner very happy. With Ade likely to be a sub that means more penalty taking minutes for VDV, who we should not forget is a beast of a player in FPL terms ....when his hamstrings are ok that is.

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      1. JELLYFISH
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        Hey Jonty - great captain differential option this gw me thinks?

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        1. J0E
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          wooah, easy there. Those hammies can snap at any moment. Pleased to have him in my side though.

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    2. JELLYFISH
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      Wild Rover - you have made my day 🙂

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    3. Crouch Potato!
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      Read that last night, pleasing news.

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    4. Drip Doctor
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      Yeah just seen it, decided to keep him for now. Might get Bale aswell though!

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  9. paddy2345
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    who to bench zaba or clyne?

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    1. cuterandy
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      Zabs

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    2. biju
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      ZAB

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    3. Sir_Dunc
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      I can see City passing Liverpool to death, CS for Zabaleta. I'm playing him.

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      1. Sir_Dunc
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        also playing Clyne 🙂

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    4. paddy2345
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      ya thats what i thought tooo thanks. what about ireland or taarabt?

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  10. Tmel
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    Why is everyone so sure Rooney will stay on pens ahead of RVP? I would have thought with RVP's better conversion rate that he has a fair chance of taking over?

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    1. J0E
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      Does he have a better conversion rate though. Rooney only missed one last season as I recall. There was another the previous season where the shot was parried out and he slammed it afterwards, creating some perverse penalty miss penalty score FPL score that week.

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      1. Tmel
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        Oh fair enough, don't know why I had it in my head that he'd missed a fair few. Should I bring in RVP or Rooney? Money no object

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        1. Christina.
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          Someone mentioned only 2 of Rvp's goals last season for Ars was from the spot.

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          1. Qubit
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            Arsenal got awarded 3 pens and RVP did indeed score 2, not sure if he missed the other one or someone else took it though. RVP is clearly no dependent on pens for goals. Looks to me like Rooney will keep them for now.

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            1. Christina.
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              Prob Arteta?

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      2. Blue-Ghosts
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        rooney missed a few pens last season! i can recall the miss against bolton and the miss against city in the fa cup anyway, he missed one against chelsea too!

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        1. J0E
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          13 years, 8 months ago

          in the league I'm looking at.

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  11. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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    To sum up, the addicted amongst us don't want to follow bandwagons and are trying to follow logic. Everyone is scared that not picking your lineup and captaincy based on Swansea will backfire as surely qpr were just terrible and won't happen again. No sure fire option though, vp and roonpig were awesome last year and will come good so sensible option but risky as utd were toss against everton.

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    1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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      plus everyone knows torres is rubbish but will probably burn us all

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  12. The_Druid
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    Do you believe that Utd/Swansea cover is essential for GW2?

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      United yes it probably is. Swansea cover will never be essential

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      1. Red20
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        It was a little bit last week!

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  13. Sir_Dunc
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    I have Torres and fancy RVP. However, I don't see the value when both Rooney and RVP's points potential is a bit of an unknown and they have horrible fixtures after the next three.

    Am I mad to give Torres an extended trial and dodge any Man U players until at least GW10?

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    1. Tmel
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      GW10 is pretty far away! Tbh the wise move would probably be to wait but I think I'm going to take a hit for Torres > RVP this week

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    2. Derailed Bandwagon
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      Yes UTD have not particularly good fixtures coming up, but if they're going to win the league they need to win the tough fixtures. If they're going to win both RVP and Rooney will have a key part to play, scoring the goals.

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    3. tommygun
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      You're mad to completely avoid Man U yes.

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  14. kingluis
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    Nolan or Jarvis?

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    1. Real Champion
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      Nolan.

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  15. hustler7
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    • 13 Years
    13 years, 8 months ago

    Already got a dilemma for GW2. Could someone please give their opinion?

    My current team is:

    Begovic
    Lescott Shawcross Pearce
    Michu Bale Hazard Pienaar
    Podolski Torres Tevez

    Subs: Krul, Colocinni, Hutton

    I thought Hutton would be starting for Villa but isn't and I also want to rid of Podolski. For my transfer for GW2 I was thinking Podolski out for Graham as Swansea have a good run of fixtures and then taking out Hutton next week.

    What do you recommend for my transfer this week Podolski or Hutton? Also Bale, Hazard or Michu captain? At the moment im edging towards Bale Thanks!

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    1. Real Champion
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      Give Podolski one more chance. I don't see why you have Begovic & Shawcross either. Stoke have absolutely terrible fixtures. For captain I would go for Michu.

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      1. hustler7
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        Yeah I made a big mistake with the Stoke players, didn't realise their fixtures were so bad. Thanks for the advice.

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  16. Rinseboy
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    Ok guys, quick Michu or Dyer for this week?

    first to 5 wins!

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    1. biju
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      Dyer

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    2. Real Champion
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      Michu.

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    3. Kevin Twine
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      Wins what? Michu.

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    4. Dub
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      5

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    5. PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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      michu

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    6. tommygun
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      Michu is better but not worth switching from Dyer...

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      1. red beard
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        michu for me, dyer scored in bursts last season and i believe he'll continue to do so

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        1. Rinseboy
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          cheers congratulations to all those that went for Michu, prizes in the post.

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    7. Le Gooner
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      Michu

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  17. Efan Ekoku Pops
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    Morning guys. Looks like this is my team for the weekend, would you agree with the subs?

    DDG (Federici)
    Zabaleta / Ivanovic / Clyne
    Bale (c) / Michu / N'Zobgia / Yaya
    Torres / Tevez / Graham

    Subs: Federici / Noble / Hangeland / Demel

    3.3M in the bank

    N'Zogbia is having his last ever chance in my team this weekend. Not being stung twice in consecutive years by sticking with him!

    GW3 Torres > RVP/Rooney

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    1. Real Champion
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      I would captain Tevez instead of Bale.

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      1. biju
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        Tevez why ??? Bale has a much easier team

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        1. Efan Ekoku Pops
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          I agree, Bale has the much easier fixture this week. Liverpool always raise their game against the big teams.

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          1. biju
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            +1

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        2. Le Gooner
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          That's debatable 😉

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        3. Real Champion
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          I can see Liverpool leaking goals with Agger out.

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  18. TO
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    Chelsea buying a whole new squad is so ridiculous. You have to wonder how other teams can complete with teams like chelsea, mancity,man united etc

    I fully support the financial fair play as i will like to see teams competing fairly although i'm not sure how financial fair play will affect the EPL and europe as a whole

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    1. biju
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      Chelsea 5 playrs still counting 🙂
      Manc jus 1????
      UTd -5 plyrs 🙂

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      1. PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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        you dont think city's 500million outlay over the last 5 years wasnt enough???

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    2. PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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      Financial fair play with never work as certain clubs (ie manutd) have revenue turnover far superior to anyone else. Even if financial rules come in they will always be able to buy bigger and pay bigger wages - TAADAAA!!

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    3. Billy Gilmore
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      They're not buying a whole other team, just 4 midfields worth. How can a top side go into a season with only 2 strikers is beyond me.

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      1. Qubit
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        Yeh, bit weird, the really need ANOTHER midfielder dont they with only 2 strikers, neither of whom can score.

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      2. tw
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        they know torres is shit so they're preparing to mimic the spanish national team 😉

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      3. TO
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        Chelsea confirm signing of Cesar Azpilicueta from Marseille

        They will probably buy more before next weekend

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  19. Real Champion
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    Is is too much of a gamble captaining Graham?

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    1. Kevin Twine
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      It's a great punt imo.

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    2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
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      I think so

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    3. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      requires balls of steel

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      1. Qubit
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        I wondered what that clinking sound from my groin area was....

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        1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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          bijou de famille...

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  20. JCrosbie
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    transfer torres to v.persie ….? yay or nay?

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    1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      hit? Nah
      or else....Nah

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  21. mo 10 years on FFS? Join my…
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    Paddy slightly favours southampton cleanie over man city one. I am inclined to slightly agree

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    1. Bubbles
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      Really?! I don't agree with that. At all.

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      1. paddy2345
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        ur a catboy

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    2. paddy2345
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      its a hard one to call. but im edged towards clyne

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  22. jamie20
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    Guthrie (sun) OR Noble (swa)?? That is the question lol OR ditch 3-4-3 and go 4-3-3 with Zabaleta???

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    1. Real Champion
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      Zabaleta.

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      1. jamie20
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        I did think that RC.. Its an interesting one eh? Do you think the scousers will struggle at home to city then? Just wary of a backlash after the west brom game and guthrie playing just behind the striker did well against chelsea. I have rules out noble so it really is between those two.

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        1. jamie20
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          Ruled* Bloody typo's!

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        2. Real Champion
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          I just can't see Guthrie doing anything against Sunderland.

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          1. jamie20
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            I'm inclined to agree tbh mate. Thanks for the input. Much appreciated.

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  23. Ryan
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    Levy has ratified the deal for Modric to finally go to Madrid. I wonder if Spurs will seek a replacement? they will certainly need one

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  24. Soccaholic
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    Repost since i didnt get much of a response
    Guys i need the help of a Fulham expert
    Could u kindly state the fulham starting 11?
    And to what extent is Alex Kancaniklic nailed on?
    I’m thinking abt Transfering Noble out to get him so please i need to hear ur thoughts and Thanks in Advance!

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    1. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      having scored he's pretty much nailed on but not as nailed on as Noble

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  25. tw
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    think i'm set with tevez (c) and boyce over fabio

    now time for some sleep. gnite fellas!

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  26. tristanabc
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    Is clichy nailed on for a few gameweeks at least (provided no injury)?

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    1. red beard
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      not nailed on, imo hes a better defender than kolarov so he should start v pool..but he can easily make way for kolarov in the home game against qpr

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  27. Sulk
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    Can you hear that? its the IVAN exodus steamtrain picking up speed!!!! All of you lot, could you please wait till the morning. Hopefully his price will rise so we can make a cheeky .1m on him!!! there will be lots of amateurs getting him in today i hope

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    1. tristanabc
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      he's nailed on for newcastle match though i think

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  28. Rivaldo Izback
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    Hi guys.. If Johnson besomes a Black Cat who will he be replacing?? I don't see McClean Losing his spot???

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    1. Le Gooner
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      Johnson will play on the right wing

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  29. RoyaleBlue
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    why on the fantasy site do all the players have horrendous photos LOL

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    1. True_Blue
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      they always reflect on their previous week's performance ... dont believe me just look at Anton Ferdinand 😀

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  30. True_Blue
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    13 years, 8 months ago

    "Downing cant score 95 goals even on playstaytion" enough motivation to read the article 😀
    http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/3558/what-we-learned-this-week/2012/08/24/3326523/what-we-learned-this-week-eden-hazard-is-the-anti-downing

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