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12 October 2012 1408 comments
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This week on the virtual physio plinth, we turn our attentions to Quadriceps: Guy Demel sustains a strain against the Gunners whilst Gaston Ramirez ‘cops a corky’ in training.

Gaston Ramirez
Canny early adopters of the Fray Bentos born Gaston Ramirez were left looking for the nearest ‘pie-can’ to kick after news filtered through from Southampton of a potential six-week absence for their record summer signing.

Nigel Adkins described the injury as a serious “dead leg” proclaiming that:

“The muscle swelled up very much because there was nowhere for the blood to go, so there was a lot of pressure on his thigh…He has had to have a couple of days in hospital to try and relieve the pressure, so obviously he is not going to go and join the Uruguayan team over the international break.”

This type of injury is usually caused by a blunt trauma to the quadriceps. Often an opposing player’s knee sandwiches the Quadricep muscles between the Femur (thigh bone, see illustration below), resulting in a crush or compressive lesion, known as a Quadriceps Contusion/Haematoma, or, colloquially, as a ‘Dead-Leg,’ ‘Charley Horse,’ or ‘Corked Thigh/Corky.’ This category of injury commonly elicits bleeding, swelling and subsequent haematoma formation within the muscle.

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The swelling the player reportedly suffered and his subsequent hospital treatment indicates a significant injury occurred, and also gives us a considerable clue to the type of contusion sustained.

There are two types; the first, termed Intra-Muscular, describes an injury to the muscle belly but the fascia or sheath that surrounds it remains undamaged. Here, the escaped blood and fluids are localised and pool in the muscle, unable to drain or change location due the fascia compartmentalising the leakage. The second type of contusion, Inter-Muscular describes damage to the muscle and to the fascia, here the bleeding takes longer to stop (due to decreased pressure) but the players recovery is often speedier as the fluids extravasate more efficiently. Thus, armed with Nigel Adkins’ summary we may infer that Ramirez suffered an Intra-Muscular Quadriceps haematoma/contusion.

The severity of the injury is indicated by its grading with grade 1 lesions reflecting minor tightness with little or no swelling; ‘niggles,’ that can sometimes be ‘run-off’ during a match. A grade 2 contusion would elicit a clearly presentable antalgic gait, with some swelling, pain on palpation and resisted contraction plus restricted range of movement at the knee joint, whilst a grade 3 indicates that ambulation will be severely restricted and crutches will usually be prescribed as an aid, the patient will be in severe pain and a static contraction would probably produce a bulge in the muscle. Grade 3 injuries have a rehabilitation time of anything from three to twelve weeks. Weighing up the available evidence, it would seem that Ramirez suffered a grade 3 intra-muscular quadriceps contusion, the most severe in both categories.

This is an interesting one for us physiotherapists. If certain modalities, such as heat and massage, are administered too early, or if treatment is too aggressive initially, a condition known as Myositis Ossificans (bone forming within the muscle) may develop, which is why swift action to drain the wound occurred. The Uruguayan’s initial rehabilitation will involve controlling the pain and swelling before flexibility and mobility work is undertaken. Once range of motion at the knee joint is nearing optimal, strength work will be introduced. For a grade 2 contusion the strength stage would take about a week to reach and a grade 3 possibly ten days but more likely two weeks from the date of injury.

In terms of a time-scale prognosis, minor, grade 1 quadriceps contusions may often be ‘run-off’ during a match or resolved within a week. Grade 2 injuries would require one to three weeks to dissipate, whilst grade 3 injuries may require anything from three to 12 weeks rehabilitation. Current reports suggest a six-week hiatus for the Saints’ starlet, however; Premier League football clubs have access to the best medics, facilities and treatments available.

There are a battery of modalities available to the physiotherapist to nurture optimal rehabilitation for this type of injury and highly trained athletes usually respond well to Quadricep contusions, which makes me think that six weeks is a little pessimistic and although three weeks is possible, perhaps a bit too optimistic, but I wouldn’t be surprised to see him back around the four week mark, which would see him remain absent for West Ham and Spurs but West Brom on November 5 becomes a distinct possibility. A state of affairs that brings Adam Lallana sharply into focus as the main fulcrum of creativity for the Saints.

Guy Demel
Reports suggest that popular Fantasy asset Guy Demel sustained an injury to the Quadricep group of muscles in his match against Arsenal last weekend, prompting Sam Allardyce to speculate…

“I think Guy Demel has pulled a thigh muscle and that could be four weeks”

The footage verifies this as we see a frustrated Demel being led from the pitch by the physio, his gait, indeed, inferring Quadricep involvement. However, encouragingly for owners, the Ivory Coast full-back is able to weight bear almost fully on the affected thigh as he walks to the dug-out and, although a limp was evident, it wasn’t overly pronounced and his movement suggested the injury, in my eyes, as not significantly serious.

The Quadriceps (translated as ‘four heads’) are a large group of four muscles covering the entire front of the thigh and are served by a voluminous blood supply and therefore heal quickly as long as there is no tendon involvement. Additionally, professional footballers have strong and heavily trained Quadricep muscles, which can also precipitate swift healing times. From the footage I feel Allardyce is being a little pessimistic and, in this instance, the International break has fallen kindly for Demel’s many Fantasy owners.

The latest news reports from the Ivory Coast suggest that Demel travelled with The Elephants squad this week to be assessed by their own medics. Although at this point his fitness is still unconfirmed, it does offer us further insight into the severity of the injury, again, inferring only a minor strain, which, barring complications, should see the Hammers full-back in contention for the visit of Southampton following the International sojourn.

  1. Naboo
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    If I purchased Fellaini at 7.0 and he is currently 7.3 (selling price 7.1) does that mean after another drop he will still be 7.1 selling price so I can afford to miss the next drop without it affecting me? Cheers guys

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    1. Van Dal
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      Yep u can afford the drop

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    2. Jaswarbrick
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      yes mate

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    3. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
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      Yepp

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  2. Jaswarbrick
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    Hey guys,

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/190785/history/

    Already done Hazard > Cazorla so far.

    Was thinking Fletcher > Berbatov for my other FT.

    Then next week Federici > Begovic to gradually shift out Federici/Stam who don't play.

    Feedback anyone? Cheers

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    1. AK ⭐
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      Looks good. Though I'd wait, he'll be dropping to 6.9 soon, just needs less than 7,000 transfers out and he'll be there according to FISO.

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      1. Jaswarbrick
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        Yep, if I was gonna do it, i'd wait until he dropped.

        You agree on the actual transfer though? Cheers

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        1. AK ⭐
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          Yeah, Federici can wait, you can play Vorm this week, so Federici can wait, and Stam, well, you can paly McCartney against Wigan away too, but I'm not too sure if he's gonna get the gametime, don't have too much info about the injuries in the Wham team. Looks good to go. Cheers.

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          1. Jaswarbrick
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            Exactly, it's not an absolute neccessity to get Federici/Stam out RIGHT NOW, it's only wise to take them out when my other keeper (Vorm) doesn't have the comfort of an easy home fixture, so therefore Federici can wait until next gw for Federici > Begovic, and then sub out Vorm.

            As for Stam, McCartney starting against Arsenal now gives me 4 defenders again who start, so shifting out Stam needs to be done EVENTUALLY but only when I can transfer in a player who will actually sub in at the right time to take the place of one my 3 first choice defenders for a given GW.

            Would you agree with this? Cheers mate

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            1. AK ⭐
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              I most certainly do agree. Though one more injury would be a nightmare for you, so I'd really wait on getting Berb in.

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              1. Jaswarbrick
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                Cheers mate, yeah this is why i'm holding off for the moment. If no injuries, Fletcher > Berbatov on the friday. If injuries, re-assess if it's to anyone bigger than Noble/Walker/McCartney (my possible bench players)

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                1. AK ⭐
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                  You know what to do then, cheers.

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      2. TorresMagic™
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        He probably won't be dropping before the GW starts.

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        1. AK ⭐
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          He won't rise too I'd think. So it's better to wait and see?

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  3. Salah’s Sonnet
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    Well, after wildcarding last week, im regretting a lot of decisions taken to 'renew' my team, but, could anyone give some feedback as to how my team looks?

    Foster - Begovic
    Gibbs (inj), Baines, Wilson - Demel inj), Gorkss
    Gervinho, Cazorla, Bale, Ramirez (inj) - Sterling
    Ba, RVP, Jelavic

    Think i'll be taking hits to sort it out yet again for next gameweek, any advice much appreciated.

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    1. Jaswarbrick
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      Ba > Berba?

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
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        nah im pretty set on keeping ba, can score against anyone on the day, i meant with more intention around the injured players, sorry shoulf mentioned that, thinking of getting rid of van persie, he just takes up too much funds then i can spend elswhere.

        worth hanging onto gervinho? walcott got a knock tonight, not as much risk of rotation?

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        1. Jaswarbrick
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          No worries, some players have a personal preference on how they want to go about things so got to respect that. I definately wouldn't take out RVP this gw when he is playing Stoke, Gervinho now that you have him I would keep for the next 2 then get rid.

          For now though due to your injuries, Ramirez to Nolan?

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          1. AK ⭐
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            I wouldn't go Nolan really. West Ham's fixtures after GW9 don't look too good.

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          2. Salah’s Sonnet
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            cool, is a good shout tho, i had berba in my team before i wildcarded, and hazard, and ivanovic, and michu, which the latter three all scored! was fuming lol.

            cool think i'll leave rvp in then and sort the injured out with patience with free transfers.

            is ivanovic essential right now? his fixtures look tough now.

            yeah i'll get ramirez out for someone though, and i'll keep gervinho.

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  4. ★A-O-Chamberlain★ COYG …
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    Last post before sleep;
    Which one of these?

    A) Aguero & Jelavic
    B) RVP & Jelavic
    C) Tevez & Jelavic
    D) Tevez & Aguero

    My other forward is Ba btw.
    Thanks!!

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    1. Jaswarbrick
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      B

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    2. सनकी
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      A. True story

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  5. whatapalaver
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    Good article. Learning biology from a fantasy football site?! Who'd've thought it?
    Something based on fact rather than conjecture, too... (though still conjecture...)
    Keep it up.

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  6. @Bryan
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    Drunk and O'Irssh for my sins.

    Random thought! To win FPL you got to be very eary on the adoption curve!! Basically just before a player starts delivering returns. Get enough of these and you shoot up rankings. Play it safer and you do well..but not top 1k material!

    So following ffs advice completly wont win you nought but teh local league of drunks like me me on a friday

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    1. AK ⭐
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      Well, I think you're right, but people here are likely keen on achieving the top 10k mark, which looks achievable if you follow FFS. But for the ones who are aiming to get into the top 1k, you've gotta take those punts, and that's the reason why I'm tempted to get the membership here.

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      1. @Bryan
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        http://www.shotsontarget.co.uk/

        And

        http://premierleaguefantasy.blogspot.ie/

        Are great spots for mostly stat based opinions. Work well alongside FFS scout. Just gotta play your own game

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        1. AK ⭐
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          Cheers mate, don't do that though, post links I mean, admins might not like the idea of losing their potential members like that.

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      2. Twelve years a slave
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        Correct

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  7. Smakies
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    Hey guys, what changes should i make??:
    hart/cerny
    baines/barnett/demel/cuellar/hughes
    cazorla/pienaar/kaca/michu/hazard
    rvp/tevez/lambert
    ????????
    maybe:
    hazard to mata
    upgrape def
    drop hart ?
    drop rvp or tevez??
    thanks !

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    1. Naboo
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      hazard to bale maybe?
      i would get out lambert before rvp or tevez myself. they are great C options every week

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      1. Smakies
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        don't know for bale, i still want that chelsea cover in mid ?

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    2. dinamika
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      No need any changes....for gameweek 8.Hazard to Mata and Barnett to Wilson later...

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  8. Naboo
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    Any news on when Fabio could be returning? Looking for replacements for Demel in a couple GWs and might only have 4.2 to spend. Was thinking Gorkss but if Fabio drops once more could afford him. When he is back, will he go straight back into the starting line-up? Hoops fans?

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    1. Smakies
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      go for a stoke defender imo

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      1. Naboo
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        none i can afford. plus i have bego already. might go for wilson but would need to downgrade elsewhere

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  9. Salah’s Sonnet
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    is aguero nailed on from next GW onwards?

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    1. Smakies
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      Tevez is more nailed on since he doesn't have international duties, but aguero will always be the 1st choice striker .

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
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        cool, so he'll more than likely be a starter with tevez for most games ya reckon?

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        1. Smakies
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          Yes

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          1. Salah’s Sonnet
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            cheers 🙂

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  10. Smakies
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    Good night people

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  11. halnone
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjKBp3WkO88&feature=relmfu

    Go to around 4:15 and you'll see Micah Richards talking about his fantasy team haha

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    1. halnone
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      he had van persie captain haha

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    2. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      That's awesome! His team actually looks pretty good!

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    3. Midtable
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      Thats hilarious 🙂

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    4. hazza44
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      Hahhah

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  12. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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    Any word on Hazard's injury? Cheers.

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    1. Twelve years a slave
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      Yes, news is it all in your tiny mind

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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        Excuse me? A friend of mine told me he was subbed out due to injury, I didn't watch the game so I was looking for some information.

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  13. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    Still cant believe its been over 1 week and havent heard any return date for Gibbs.

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    1. Midtable
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      agreed

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  14. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    Is it right to say, "I have a poster of Lana Del Rey on my bedroom wall"?

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    1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
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      Yes

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      1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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        Thx!

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  15. Branke
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    Arg-Uru 1-0, Messi
    The attacking capabilities of these 2 teams are incredible.

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    1. Doctor X
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      Uruguay are terrible. No decent play in the final third at all.

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    2. Branke
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      Arg-Uru 2-0 Aguero
      Beautiful goal, Messi sets up Di Maria with a lob/chip
      at the edge of the box. Di Maria pass it in to a free Aguero that doesnt miss.

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  16. Doctor X
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    Messi's at it again. 3-0

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  17. Branke
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    Aguero subbed in 78th minute, no injury.

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  18. Branke
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    Arg - Uru 3-0, Messi
    Freekick that Messi hits low, the wall jumps and Muslera
    cant reach it.

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  19. Clay
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    13 years, 2 months ago

    I have RVP, Suarez and Berb up top. All things being equal and say they all start, who to hand the armband?

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    1. dinamika
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      Suarez

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      1. Clay
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        I want to but he's so 'feast or famine' I'm wondering whether to play safe with RVP who is due a brace.

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        1. dinamika
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          Liverpool have 2.25 ave.pg against reading

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    2. Van The Man
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      RVP

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  20. Chu Young Ping Pong
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    I hate to say it, but Messi's fouls are amazing. I'm the biggest Ronaldo fan in the world, but Messi's fouls are much much better now.

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    1. Chu Young Ping Pong
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      Free kicks I mean

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    2. bdwhite91
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      Yeah, that was great.

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  21. Daniyal
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    2 FT

    Fletcher --> Berbatov
    &
    BenArfa or Hazard --> Carzorla

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    1. Midtable
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      ben arfa

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    2. bdwhite91
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      Newcastle has tasty fixtures. I haven't had Hazard in my team this year, but I've had Cazorla since day one. Do you already have Ba though?

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  22. Clay
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    If Suarez had faked being hit like Messi just did he'd be hammered by the press.

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    1. bdwhite91
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      I agree.

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  23. dinamika
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    Hazard to Cazorla Newcastle have easier fixtures coming up

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  24. bdwhite91
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    Hold on to Demel and Gibbs or spend a transfer on shipping one out? I have 0.8 in the bank.

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    1. Van The Man
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      Since Demel is only 4.2, I would bench him for a few weeks. Not so sure bot doing the same with Gibbs at his price.

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      1. bdwhite91
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        Cheers! I think I'd transfer him to Rafael if I did anything.

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        1. Van The Man
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          Rafael-hater here! 😀

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  25. Godfather Bandit 42
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    Hey Bed-Zoners! I swear this game is gonna be the end of me! Please Help......
    Foster
    Gibbs, McCauley, Reid(inj)
    Hazard, Cazorla, Michu, Fellaini(inj)
    RVP, Tevez, Lambert
    SUBS: Jaasi, Kacaniklic, Gorks, Clyne(inj)
    2FT & £0.9 BANKED

    a) Hazard>Bale & Fellaini>Pienaar
    b) Hazard>Mata & Fellaini>£9.4 MID
    c) Tevez>Ba & Fellaini>Bale
    d) Tevez>Suarez & Gibbs>£6.4 DEF
    e) Fellaini>Pienaar & Reid>Rafael/Gibbs>Cole
    f) ANYTHING I DIDN'T THINK OF!

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    1. Van The Man
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      C)

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      1. Godfather Bandit 42
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        Thanks Van Man! Kinda worried about no Citeh or Everton cover though but I can't have everyone right?

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        1. Van The Man
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          I wonder how you're missing Baines! Downgrade Tevez or Fellaini( or both! ) and get Baines in for Gibbs/Reid.

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          1. Godfather Bandit 42
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            Tevez>Ba & Gibbs-Baines + CONFIRMED!!! I feel sick......

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            1. Van The Man
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              I'm thinking of either Ba and Berba to replace Tevez but have my other defensive problems too.

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              1. Godfather Bandit 42
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                You have Ben Arfa, so probably Berba.I may have to take a hit to do Fellaini>Pienaar.......or maybe Sahin.

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    2. smcelheron (Team Sri Lanka)
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      Tev dropping and Ba rising tonight so if you're doing c do it now 🙂

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      1. Godfather Bandit 42
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        Thanks SMCELHERON, Aww maaan, I've been holding on to these FT's for too long!

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  26. सनकी
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    How would you imprive this lot. No ft. 0.3m

    Mignolet(mccarthy)
    Baines Ridgewell Fonte(Demel Barnett)
    Hazard BenArfa Michu Santi(Guthrie)
    Berbatov(C) RVP Suarez

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    1. Clay
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      Same frontline as me, same captain dilemma presumably.

      Good team, nice balance considering plenty of big names. Maybe look at your keepers down the line or downgrade Michu after this GW (for Nolan) and beef up the back line with Gibbs.

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    2. Jafalad
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      Keepers need-a-changin'
      That's my sort of d.
      Good midpark but no Bale is a worry.
      Suarez needs booting.

      No City stands out. Probably easiest to go Suarez -> Tevez.

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  27. Revsfc2013
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    As much as I was cheering for San Marino since everyone was being a little arrogant with how assured a victory it would be for England, that helicopter hit from the san marino GK on walcott was shameless and the non call was ridiculous. Could have been a concussion from the whiplash/impact.

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    1. Jafalad
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      ...and a penalty with SM down to 10 players? Wonder if the ref would have done that against better oppo.

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  28. Koflok
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    Hey guys need some inputs here

    Howard (McCarthy)
    Baines Cole McAuley Demel Perch
    Cazorla Fellaini Michu Duff Sterling
    Aguero Ba Suarez

    1. Suarez - Berba, Fellaini - Bale
    2. Suarez - Berba, Fellaini - Pieenar
    3. Keep Suarez, Fellaini - Pieenar
    4. Keep Suarez, Fellaini - Bale

    Any news on Gibbs as well? Thinking of replacing Cole w/ a cheap arsenal defender. EIther Gibbs / Jenkinson for 2-3 games.
    But with Jenkinson, I'm afraid that Sagna is starting to play after the intl breaks.

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    1. Jafalad
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      1. Hard to ignore Bale right now.

      No CHS, RVP and expensive keeper a concern though.

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      1. Koflok
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        I may stick with Cole for CHS cover but @TOT, MU, @SWA, LIV, @WBA, MCI on the next 6 fixtures I doubt they will get a clean sheet.

        I'm planning swap Michu to Silva and Duff to Mata/Hazard.]

        I have faith in my 'value' keeper and rather upgrade on different sectors.

        Had RVP for a while but I dropped him on the GW he stop scoring (lucky me). But will probably get him back in near future.

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  29. Van The Man
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    Fellaini worth keeping for the match against QPR???

    If not who's his replacement?? have 0.2 in the bank.

    Ta.
    Advice welcome.

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  30. Desertbug
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    • 13 Years
    13 years, 2 months ago

    Meandering towards this WC....
    Thoughts?

    Begovic/McCarthy
    Baines/Rafael/Hughes/Olsson/Cameron
    Cazorla/Hazard/Pienaar/Michu/Taarabt
    Torres/Jelavic/Giroud

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    1. Jafalad
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      McC->Fos
      Bale in midpark.
      Torres??? Giroud??? RVP or City investment needed I feel.

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      1. Desertbug
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        McC to Foster costs 1.2
        Swap to Bale would also cost either dumping Cazorla or Hazard or cutting dollars elsewhere
        Had RVP, but had atrocious defense and there may be production at 13.4, but there is no bargain there. Torres captain each of last two weeks would yield 20+ per week and he is far less subject to rotation than RVP is. Giroud or Ba is current choice for other striker, but half my league is on Ba and I think Giroud is on the upswing. What City investment would you suggest. Only have an extra 0.1 to play with

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        1. Jafalad
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 2 months ago

          Would get Mata in who is great value for my CHS invesment. That frees up cash. I think you need to cover a no of teams at the moment that are yielding returns.

          3 citeh to choose from: Silva, Tevez or Ag. I'm sticking with Tevez as I aim to have 3 big hitters in midpark: Bale, Caz, Mata.

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          1. Desertbug
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 2 months ago

            Thanks, Hazard to Mata would free up dollars indeed, not enough to get from Michu to Silva, though. That leaves Tevez or Aguero. Could go Giroud to Tevez, I think, but City rotation makes me nervous.

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            1. Desertbug
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 2 months ago

              Thanks for thoughts though. Need to keep thinking on this.

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    2. Van The Man
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Very good. Is this your WC team??

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      1. Van The Man
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Didn't see that Torres move though! 😉

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      2. Desertbug
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        I'm on WC, tinkering with people at the moment, trying to pick up the extra 0.1 here and there by renting a player for their price rise over this two-week window. Can get to that team with 0.1 or 0.2 to spare, I believe.

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    3. Hubert
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 2 months ago

      Granero over Taarabt, and no City or Newcastle?

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      1. Desertbug
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 2 months ago

        Will look further at Granero vs Taarabt

        Could go with Ba instead of Giroud, but half my minileague is on Ba and his numbers aren't quite as impressive if you take away his two "Hand of Ba" goals he has racked up already. Can't count on him continuing to get away with those. Newcastle defense is a shambles at present from injuries and I don't see where I can squeeze City into this squad, but would love to. You have an extra 0.1-0.2 to play with.... suggestions for specific City additions?

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