Dugout Discussion
23 December 2012 3491 comments
Mark Mark
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Having watched City struggle to claim three points against lowly Reading, it’s now United’s turn to keep pace with Sir Alex Ferguson’s side facing an altogether more testing encounter at the Liberty Stadium. United’s trip to Swansea gets Sunday’s action underway, with a globe-trotting Chelsea the latest side to face Paul Lambert’s in-form Villa later this afternoon. Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to collect the real-time chatter whilst the goals and assists accumulate.

The team news from Wales finds the home side making two changes with Michael Laudrup recalling Michel Vorm in goal, while Kemy Agustien comes in for his first league start this term, replacing Ki Sung-Yueng who drops to the bench to make way. Angel Rangel is still sidelined so Dwight Tiendalli continues at right-back. Nathan Dyer and Wayne Routledge take up the flank roles with Pablo Hernandez still out injured. Presumably we’ll see Michu lead the attack once again.

There are two changes for United, with Nemanja Vidic making a belated return to the starting lineup in defence. He lines up next to the returning Jonny Evans, with Rio Ferdinand and Chris Smalling both making way. Phil Jones remains at right-back in the absence of the hamstrung Rafael.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. alex5
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    First

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    1. Smakies
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      to get denched

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  2. Mr Smith
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Rival has been riding his luck like you wouldn't believe the last couple of weeks, infact I wouldn't be surprised if he has cleaned up on the lottery the last couple weeks too. Anyways, he captained Caz yesterday and doesn't have VP to my VP captain so it's time the tables turned. 40 odd points to make up, do me proud Mr Van P.

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  3. Rafabio
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    G'luck to ALL!

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  4. The painted man
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 12 months ago

    Fergie mention anything about extent of Rafa injury anyone ?

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    1. JT's Dog
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Nothing, but did do article in paper about marking Ronaldo. So feb certain

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    2. Louis
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Will we get news on Clichy before Boxing Day??

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      1. alex5
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I doubt it, should have got Nastasic !

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    3. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Do people not think Stoke were lucky to get a CS vs Spurs?

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        No?

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        1. The Finnisher
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          I didn't watch the game, just saw extended highlights.

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      2. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Saw the game. No. They are really good defensively.

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      3. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Well there was obviously some element of luck involved, but the way they set up and their solidity also helps.

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        1. Captain Shirokov
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Also, Spurs didn't look great with the 4-4-2.

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          1. The Finnisher
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Interesting, they looked dominant from the 10 minute highlights but I guess all they do is show shots which Stoke don't do..

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      4. ILOVEBAPS
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        They were indeed. Thanks Bego!

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        1. ILOVEBAPS
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Hehe.. always gotta be one.

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    4. faux_C
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      I wasn't around to read all the comments last night. Any ideas what the rough average for FFS players is so far? The overall average seems remarkably low.

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      1. heartsattack
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Hang on a minute, I'll miss half the match he go back and read them all for you.

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    5. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Ray Wilkins again 🙠My word.

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      1. heartsattack
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Young man. Marvellous, young man and I have to say other than the penalty and the two offside goals the referee has been great today.

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    6. charliec1903
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Only have 11 this GW.

      A) Sterling > Sidwell
      B) Garrido > defender under 4.7

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    7. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      What price is Vorm at now?

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        5.1 IIRC

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        1. iCon
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Interesting; rotates with Bego upto GW 25 too.

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    8. ola32
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Rafael back for Newcastle game?

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    9. nzsheep
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      How was Taraabt in the Newcastle game?

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Not as good.

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        1. nzsheep
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Transfer to Noble next week then

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            How's the budget?

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    10. OPTA FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      who are two guys beside Martin Jol?

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Hangeland and Senderos

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          what?

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          1. Captain Shirokov
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            He's joking.

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            1. OPTA FPL
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              just wonder, I've seen that image every week.

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    11. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      question about FUT, I have bought a few Premier Gold Packs, and all I have got is 2 crappy gold players with 75 ratings or so, and a rare silver player most od the time. Was I just incredibly unlucky not to get more popular players like Walcott/Rooney?
      How many packs does it take to get one of those players?

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      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Too many. Don't waste actual money on the game.

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        1. Manani
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Ypu mean it takes like 10+ packs to get Rooney/Walcott/Kagawa type of players?

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          1. Mull
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Yes. Walcott an Kagawa are easy enough to own if you play a few seasons (10 games long). Rooney on the other hand is unobtainable unless you get very lucky with packs or if you play the game too much.

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      2. megatronaldinho
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        you hardly ever get good players. don't really bother with packs is the common wisdom.

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      3. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Packs are a waste of time. Do a bit of trading instead.

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        1. Manani
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          thanks, made some decent money on trading and spent it all on packs 😆

          start over again 🙂

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      4. Smakies
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        you need good luck sometimes !
        my best player this year in a gold pack is Mata 🙂

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    12. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Right. Evans! Rio's not playing!

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      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Afternoon Doosra.

        How's that mumbles wine keeping you?

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Hic! Washat??? 😉

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          1. Evs
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Good. 🙂

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    13. meule
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      need more advices 🙂

      Begovic / Jaaska
      Cameron Enrique Davies Morrison Fonte
      Lallana Gardner Michu Cazorla Silva
      RVP Suarez Defoe

      Cazorla > Mata/Bale or Lallana > Pienaar ? or other ?

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      1. ILOVEBAPS
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Bench Caz. Do 2nd transfer imo.

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        1. meule
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          ok thanks

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    14. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      news about rangel plays against reading?

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      1. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Certainly hope so.

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    15. r0nh
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Your GW is so much better if your captain scores...

      C'mon RVP!!

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        + Mata

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        1. Konig Luther
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          AND + MICHU

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      2. Nopli
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        -100000

        Rooney to steal RVPs points 😉

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          both on my pocket

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        2. Big_Andy_GAWA
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          +loads

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      3. heartsattack
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Insightful stuff.

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      4. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        i dont captain RVP but I still hope he scores.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          I'm with Rukawa.

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      5. Captain Shirokov
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Thought you disliked RVP?

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        1. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          you will notice hes got 6/8 green arrows since he got him in gw 11 😉

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          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            I c. 😀

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    16. BootlegRascal
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Ranked 16,000

      Have RVP but he's not my captain.

      Would a goal be detrimental or positive for my rank do you think?

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      1. Mull
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        I'm 18k with RVP captain so I'd go ahead of you 😎
        You'd probably go up a few places.

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      2. Get up ya bum
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Hard to know depends on who around you has RVP

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      3. In Like Flynn.
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Positive.

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      4. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        See below lucky.

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    17. Nopli
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Points Prediction for my players :

      Rooney :11
      Mata : 10
      Torres :8
      Michu : 7

      🙂

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      1. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        and if they don't get that will you quit again?

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      2. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Michu 2

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      3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Why do you set yourself up for disappointment? Que sera, sera ... 🙂

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      4. Pinoche
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        1
        2
        2
        6

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    18. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Vidic playing is good news for Swansea.. He looked out of pace last match

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      1. heartsattack
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Ferdinand has looked short of pace for about three years.

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        1. Djerbil
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          agree to disagree

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        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          ... but he has three yards in his brain ... 😉

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        3. Red-United
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Rio was class against City.

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    19. alfast1c
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      12pts and RvP (c) or Rooney, Michu and Mata? Who will score more ?>

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      1. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        12 pts + RVP(C)

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      2. Pinoche
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Former.

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    20. Raise_the_Roof
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 12 months ago

      Anybody else gambled on torres as captain?

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Even not many people have him

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      2. Red-United
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Lots of people in my main mini league have. I think he is a good captaincy option for this week.

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        1. Raise_the_Roof
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Nice Grav mate!

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          1. Red-United
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Thanks! 😉

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      3. JT's Dog
          12 years, 12 months ago

          I didn't see it as gamble. Hat trick torres

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          1. Raise_the_Roof
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Okay maybe not gamble maybe a defferential then.

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      4. UKG
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Right c'mon captain RVP and United 3 points 🙂

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      5. Red-United
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Just 1 rvp goal please.

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        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          I would prefer more ... 😀

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          1. Red-United
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Even though he is not your captain? I'm not sure.

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            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Points, points, points.

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      6. सनकी
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 12 months ago

        Vidic bandwagon ? 😀

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        1. Red-United
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Not until United sort their defending out

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        2. Djerbil
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Vorm bandwagon

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        3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          No. It's all about Evra. 🙂

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      7. JT's Dog
          12 years, 12 months ago

          SAF says he will rotate his strikers over holiday period. Will this be both at same time or will one of main 2 always start

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          1. Djerbil
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            one at a time..

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        • heartsattack
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 12 months ago

          Time for a quick cuppa before Rooney scores.

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          1. In Like Flynn.
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            That's what all the grannies say.

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            1. JT's Dog
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Retro

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              • heartsattack
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                😆

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              • Theseus
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 12 months ago

                Lol!!!

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          2. HVT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            Just a point on some earlier posts I was reading In relation to do you want the likes of Rvp to score when you have him in your team but not as captain and your rivals have captained him,
            Well 2 things for me :
            1 - you've got to take all points available regardless of captain/rival choices, it adds positively to your points total and ultimately that's your overall goal.
            2 - regardless of how much you scream shout post and even pray we ultimately have no control of the result of a football match - you can only achieve that by becoming one of the starting 11.
            So stop worring and Fretting it won't change anything just enjoy supporting your team whilst having some Fantast Fun.

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            1. Red-United
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 12 months ago

              Very true, of course. In my case though, I know some of my main rivals will have RVP captain so that's why I would prefer him to perhaps only score 1.

              Mind you I am about 100 ahead so it probably won't be that detrimental.

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          3. Djerbil
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 12 months ago

            If a beefed-up Swansea striker visited a Peruvian relic you'd have 'Macho Michu at Macchu Picchu'.

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