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4 January 2013 1610 comments
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Chelsea have this afternoon confirmed the signing of Demba Ba from Newcastle on a three-and-a-half-year contract. Having triggered the £7m release clause in the Senegalese’s contract, the Blues moved quickly to address a distinct lack of forward options – with Daniel Sturridge moving to Liverpool and Romelu Lukaku remaining on loan at West Brom, the Champions League winners have been relying solely on Fernando Torres up top this term:

In spite of a recent upturn in output from Torres since the dismissal of Roberto Di Matteo, reinforcements have been badly needed. Ba – with an average better than a goal every other game in the English top flight – will be sorely missed by the Magpies but was keen to move on after a successful season-and-a-half on Tyneside:

“It feels good to be here, I’m very happy and very proud. It was important for me, and for Newcastle, to get my future sorted and now we can move on. Now they have the whole month to buy someone and for me as well, the sooner the better. Now I am here I just need to get settled in. When the club who won the Champions League wants you, the decision is very easy. This club is massive and that’s something that helped the decision a lot. It was not a hard one.”

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The French-born Ba had unsuccessful trials with both Lyon and Auxerre before making his way to England, where he was offered a one-year deal at Watford. Let go by Hornets boss Aidy Bothroyd in March 2005, he returned to France to sign for Rouen – there, he demonstrated his potential, with 22 goals in 26 appearances, before being snapped up by Belgian outfit Mouscron. In spite of an injury-ravaged season, he still managed eight goals in 12 matches before German outfit Hoffenheim came calling.

Ba produced 37 goals in 97 appearances, helping the club clinch promotion to the Bundesliga, before he was on the move again. After failing medicals with both Stuttgart and Stoke, he clinched a short-term deal with West Ham on a “pay as you play” basis, due to concerns over a knee injury. His impact at Upton Park was immediate and demonstrated his suitability to England’s top flight, with seven goals accrued in just 12 appearances in a season that saw the Hammers relegated to the Championship.

Newcastle moved quickly to secure his signature last season and, despite a poor second half to the campaign as a result of a shift out wide to accommodate new boy Papiss Cisse, Ba still managed to register 16 goals and five assists in 34 appearances. Moved back to a central berth this term, Ba’s output has been crucial to the Magpies – 13 goals and three assists over 20 league matches sums up his ability to produce. So far, then, his time in England has harvested 36 goals and eight assists from just 66 appearances.

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From a Fantasy perspective, the move will be greeted with some trepidation. Ba has been superb value this season – beginning at 7.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) he had started every league game when available for Alan Pardew but Benitez’s penchant for a 4-2-3-1 system means the new boy will likely fight it out with Torres for game time from here on in.

Speaking earlier this week, Benitez hinted at his plans to rotate his compatriot, who has started all 21 league games so far:

“Fernando is one of the players who needs to rest…if you have another striker you can play with two strikers if you need to. Or if you want to rest a striker then you can do that and at the moment we are a bit short.”

Looking at the statistics, though, Ba has played just 42 minutes less than Torres so far, suggesting he’s unlikely to be guaranteed a run of starts. Unfortunately for Fantasy managers, consistency of selection is not Benitez’s forte – we only have to look at Wednesday’s home defeat by QPR, where both Juan Mata and Eden Hazard were omitted from the starting line-up, to remind ourselves how detrimental the interim manager’s tinkering can be to our Fantasy fortunes. Going on the comments above, Benitez may revert to a front two when chasing games but aside from that, Ba and Torres are likely to be victims of his rotational whims – fatigue (or a lack of) will be a key factor in both players’ upcoming game time. The one factor in Ba’s favour, however, is that he is ineligible for Europa League duties, having already played in the competition for Newcastle this season – a factor to consider when the Blues square up to Sparta Prague in mid-February.

Frustratingly, the move comes just hours after news broke that Chelsea have a potential double Gameweek 22 on the horizon. Depending on the result of their FA Cup clash with Southampton tomorrow, the Blues could face a pair of games against Stoke and the Saints next time out but doubts will already be creeping in over Ba’s pitch time – can we really rely on Benitez not to tinker? The only hope is that he’ll have learnt from the QPR loss; that he’s realised he simply cannot afford to make too many alterations if he’s looking for the silverware that could keep him in the Stamford Bridge hotseat beyond the end of this season.

Ironically, the Ba move is likely to boost the prospects of Papiss Cisse, bringing the 8.8 priced Newcastle man back onto our Fantasy radars. The latter racked up 13 goals in 14 appearances playing through the middle in a 4-3-3 last season but has been a bitter disappointment this term for Newcastle, due to Ba’s move back to a central role. Alan Pardew revealed yesterday, however, that Cisse will be deployed centrally once again and with consistency of selection not an issue, he could prove the real beneficiary of today’s events.

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  1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    if the chelsea dgw happens I will be totally confused

    Bale to Mata or hazard maybe?
    Baines to Luiz?

    Really saw these as 2 core players to play this week v qpr and swansea respectively. Now looking to ship them is crazy?

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    1. rvp786
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      post your team and lets have a look

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      1. Andrew
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        He cant, he has 2 teams hence no team link 🙂

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        1. rvp786
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          loool

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    2. LewanGOALski
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      wouldn't drop Bale who has QPR with his away form for any Chelsea player, tbh

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  2. LewanGOALski
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    just noticed that main rival - 61 pts behind me - in ML activated his Jan WC. Now, I want to activate main more than ever. God dam**t! :/

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    1. jayzico
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      If he's done it it's a good reason for you not too. Then capitalise on his mistakes. I'm the other way round with my main rival. I've played it so he's waiting til after dgw - if that makes sense?

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        yeah, I know. But awareness that he'll load his team up with DGWers is killing me :/

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        1. jayzico
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          know what you mean. f uck it. do it and live dangerously 😉

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        2. SPorting
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          but he'll probably end up with a half-arsed DGW22-23 mix.

          you're better off waiting until he has to take hits to recover.

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  3. jayzico
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    Well that's really screwed things up. looks like luiz will go up tonight before we know about chelski's dgw? if that happens i cant do evra to luiz and back again. maybe stick

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      He won't go up tonight, is 86% and has been since yesterday. What are you looking at?

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      1. jayzico
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        total fpl... all this chat of dgw will boost his 86% over the next 8 hours, surely

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        1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          I would look at FISO, more accurate. I don't think casuals made aware of dgw yet so should be ok.

          He is moving at a slow pace. Been around 86% since yesterday as I said and only95 transfers in today and potential dgw was announced on here around 12-1pm

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          1. jayzico
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 11 months ago

            fiso's nav is w ank.... always hated it

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        2. roscola
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Everyone who knows about the DGW will also know that it hinges on the result tomorrow and will wait.

          Relax

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    2. roscola
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      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Luiz won't go up tonight. He needs 3500 more transfers in and he's had less than 100 so far today.

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      1. jayzico
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        ok cool. cheers dudes

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  4. rvp786
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    5 POWER MIDFIELD HAS BEEN BLOWN TO PIECES

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    1. Keane There Dunne That
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      WILDCARD STRATEGIES. BLOWN TO PIECES.

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    2. jayzico
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      not for me it aint
      Fellaini, Michu, Mata, Bale, Walcott all staying put

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  5. thegaffer82
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    I'm thinking that Mata & Hazard are great options for Chelsea DGW. They've had a rest now.... Rafa thought he could get away with it versus QPR, and having watched them I can't really blame the guy. But they got their rest and should play the next 4 games at least. Which will take them through DGW.

    So now how to fit them in.....Bale is going to have to step aside

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      problem is they have arsenal 4 days later.

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  6. Avon Barksdale
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    I have 2 wildcards left, would it be worth using the Jan one now and filling my team with chelsea arsenal westham sout then using my real one after 24 to go for the rest of the year?????

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    1. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      What a luxury. Yes

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    2. rvp786
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      yeh avona sounds good man

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      1. Avon Barksdale
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Any suggestions as to who to bring in??

        This my team now.

        Bego Mccarthy
        Nelsen Nastasic Sagna cuellar Mccartney
        Mata Silva Bale Cazorla Puncheon
        Rvp Benteke Berba

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      2. Granite
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Pointless Chelsea may rotate and you can only select three so will mata hazard cole Torres start both ?.

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    3. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Obviously Id wait until the result of the FA cup game to see if it is actually happening first.... But should there be one I'd definitely be trying to milk these DGWs for all their worth.

      Get Luiz, Haz, Walcott, Mata, Punch, Lambert , O'Brien and do Haz>Caz just before his DGW

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  7. J0E
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Paul's end point about Cisse's stock rising is particularly interesting. I'm keeping an eye on his underlying stats over the next couple of games and may include him in my wildcard. His goal this week pricked my ears up, Ba's move and Pardews comment has catapulted them to Prince Charles like proportions.

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  8. rvp786
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    i have the following: Mata Punch Clyne Walcott Gibbs O'brien.

    3.5m in bank. no fts. would be stupid wildcarding??????

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  9. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Strange this article doesn't mention the fact that Ba is ineligible to play for Chelsea in Europa League this season... More league game starts assured as a result!

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    1. Just Ruud
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      +72

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    2. Eddie
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      Well spotted.

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  10. Fantasy-er
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Has this potential DGW changed anyone's Bale plans?

    I might sacrifice getting a 3rd Chelsea midfielder in for the DGW in order to stick with Bale. Let's be honest, Bale will tear it up at QPR.

    So... for GW22 Would you rather:

    A 3rd Chelsea double gamer (already have 2 Chelsea: Mata and Luiz and 2 Southampton)

    or

    Bale??

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    1. Andrew
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Im in same dilemma but I am leaning towards Bale

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    2. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Bale is essential for the next GW IMO. More that rotation risk Chelsea players.

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    3. Vote Joke
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I'm behind in my mini-league so the only way i've got a chance in hell of making some ground is having x4 Chelsea, 2x Southampton for this possible DGW in W22 and x2 Arsenal, 2x WH in the DGW for W23, playing WC..

      The only issue is not having Bale in W22 and taking a -4 to get him back in the week after, shifting out Ba and Ramirez (obviously bringing in a 4.3 Pog).

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      1. Fantasy-er
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Yea, that's another reason I'm leaning towards keeping Bale, I'm just gonna have to take a -4 to get him back in GW23.

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  11. Cooper123
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Has there been any indication when we might get more information about Cech’s return date?

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  12. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Aguero out for –

    a- whoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo I dont have any idea…
    some suggestion please…

    Other striker: Ba, Berbatov

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    1. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      lambert, cole, suarez

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      1. SuperOsçarBaby
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        P.Cisse ?/

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    1. Messi & fabregas
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      chamack to west ham deal done

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      1. jms
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Hmm 5.4. Good fit for West Ham. Carroll injury might be worse than thought.

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        1. Granite
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          He could be 4.5 still wouldn't touch him

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      2. elkunaguero
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        wont be playing 2 games in the DGW, since he's on loan

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  13. Jeremiah
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    If the Chelsea DGW happens how does this team look ?

    Turnbull

    Baines-ShawX-Demel

    Mata-Cazorla-Puncheon-Bale

    Berba-Ba-Saurez

    Bench: Bego-Michu-Gibbs-Cuellar

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    1. McDog
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Wildcard or regular team?

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      1. Jeremiah
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Regular, would be doing Gazzinga to Turnbull for free

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  14. McDog
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Assuming the Chelsea DGW goes ahead how does this look?

    Rafael + Taarabt > Hazard + Azpilicueta (-4)

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    1. rvp786
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      mata is better if u dont have him. hazard more likely to get rested than mata

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      1. McDog
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        12 years, 11 months ago

        Have Mata already. Looking to double up on both.

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      2. Absinthe Minded
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        +1

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  15. Cooper123
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    I don't understand at all people bringing in Ba for Chelsea's DGW. Do they honestly think Torres is just going to instantly drop to the bench?

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    1. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      He would have been benched much earlier if they actually had another option. Now they do.

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      1. Cooper123
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        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        For both games though? No.

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        1. Just Ruud
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Ba will get some game time in the 2nd DGW match im sure anyway, i will take those odds.
          And if the team creates half as many chances for him as they did for Torres then he will thrive. Im convinced about this.

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    2. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I think Ba will start against sto (with Torres benched), and Torres will start against SOT (with Ba benched).

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  16. Kevin Twine
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    If the DGW 22 is on, which is the better transfer in your opinion?:

    A) Federici -> Turnbull
    B) Cameron (have Begovic) -> Azpil
    C) Defoe (have Bale) -> Ba

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    1. rvp786
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      A

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    2. McDog
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      A - as long as Cech is out for a few weeks.

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    3. Andrew
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Im doing A

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  17. isacki: full casual
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Foster & Olsson > Turnbull & Azpilicueta (-4) sorts me out I think.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      looks good, and Olsson is injured

      would love a Chelsea defender but the only people i could sell to get one is Gibbs (DGW) and Rafa (had since GW1)

      Unless Cashley gets injured then Shorey to Bertrand. Foster to Turnbull will have to do for me, already gone -4 this week, but Mata was one of the 2 I got in

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  18. kimoo
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    repost changed my mind :

    Guyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyys is that woooooow :

    GW 22 : silva nad Bego out .>> Mata , Turnbull in

    Gw 23 : hazard . >> santi IN

    plz plz plz help

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    1. सनकी
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Turnbull in for a hit ? -_- are you THAT desperate for Chelsea coverage? Mata AND Hazard is enough. Hell even Mata alone is enough imo.

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      1. Absinthe Minded
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        turnbull could do for a few weeks?
        then transfer for federici?

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    2. Fantasy-er
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      How much did you buy Bego for?

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  19. lilmessipran
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    If it is a DGW what chelsea and sot coverage are u looking for guys???surely mata and puncheon aint enough right??i had originally planned 2 wc after d arsenal DGW so have 2 ars and 2 whu players ...already taken a -4 hit this week..should i wc??

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    1. Andrew
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Turnbull in goal

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  20. सनकी
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    when's the best time to use the Winter WC again ? cause i'm only left with that wc, and not really sure when is the perfect time to use it..

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    1. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      after the DGW

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  21. Timmy Cahill Rules
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Bassong good value ?

    seema reall threat from set pieces

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  22. emperikal
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Was set on just bringing in Gerrard for Silva before todays news but now thinking of the following:

    Silva + Gazzaniga + Michu OUT

    Hazard + Turnbull + Ramirez IN (-8)

    Surely worth it if GW22 DGW goes on? Would give me 4 DGW players for this week and then with another 4 point hit would give me 5 DGW for GW23. Think I'll make up those 12 points or worth it to just wildcard instead? I was all set on using my WC as late as possible. Grr....

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  23. Live4pool
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    can we at least behave like there was a GW 2morrow? makes me feel a lil better..

    btw. when are the scoutpicks coming out tonight?

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  24. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Why is everyone so excited over Chelsea players for the DGW? Surely you can't rely on many of their players playing in both games?

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    1. Just Ruud
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Mikel and Moses are off to the AfCON, this already increases the odds for the usual mf suspects to play both.

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        JT - what you reckon for the squad on last page?

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        1. Just Ruud
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Looks good, i guess the FT in GW23 will have to be one of the Chelsea lads out , to accommodate an extra Arsenal player. Will have to think about it for a few days before zoning in on someone.

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          1. Jafooli
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 11 months ago

            Probs go for Mata to Caz and then back the following week....loads in the bank for this

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            1. Just Ruud
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 11 months ago

              Sounds about right. Food for thought. cheers

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      exactly, I am wary of the rotation.

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  25. Acquafresca
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Would you take a hit with this team to get Chelsea cover for the potential DGW?

    Bego, Tremmel
    Sagna, Cuellar, Hughes, O’Brien, Demel
    Bale, Walcott, Michu, Fellaini, Sterling
    RVP, Suarez, Berbatov

    Looking at Bale > Mata(C) possibly, then getting Bale back on WC, but would lose 0.3 hmmm

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    1. Acquafresca
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Or can do Walcott > Mata and back again week after? So confused..

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    2. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Tremmel to Turnbull.

      0.3 on Bale may be worth it, but I think I'd want Bale this week, in fact I do and I have

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      1. Acquafresca
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        I would rather Mata as I would captain him... I can swap out Walcott and get him back next week for free. Would only lose 0.2

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    3. Fantasy-er
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      You're going to need some Chelsea coverage...

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  26. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    I hope it works out for chamakh, would love him to score a few goals and stick it to the doubters. Would be funny to see people scurrying to get him in their teams too.

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    1. Fantasy-er
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Chamakh is mentally weak. For that reason he will never cut it in this league, not because of his lack of ability.

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      1. Granite
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Couldn't control a beach ball in a phone box ...hopeless

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  27. isacki: full casual
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    Gotta say it's great timing for the scouts to release the RMT tool to plan transfers around the next two potential DGWs. If there was a time to need a computer, this is it.

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  28. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Whats the strategy for people currently holding 2 wcs?

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    1. Andrew
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I dont have 2 WC's but at a guess I would say :-

      WC1 before GW22 to load up on DGWers
      WC2 after GW23 to fix team for remainder of season

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    2. Kevin Twine
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      It depends on how many DGW players you currently hold really. I've got my original WC intact but I feel it's pretty pointless to use it being that I've got Mata, Clyne, Puncheon, Gibbs, Walcott & Demel.

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      1. Kevin Twine
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        (and will most prob get Turnbull & Podolski...)

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  29. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Best WC team to prepare for DDGW? Anyone using WC this week care to share it?

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    1. Andrew
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Use your brain, why rely on others to pick your team, this site is meant to be used as a tool to help not to do it all for you!

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        so why are you here?
        Certainly we make decision by ourself, but reference is always helpful

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    2. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Yes - on my winter wildcard...

      WC team is:

      Turnbull / Bego

      Baines / Azpilicueta / Clyne (Harte / Mariappa)

      Bale / Mata / Fellaini / Michu / (Walcott)

      RVP / Berba / Ba

      Azpilicueta ----> Gibbs & Clyne ---> Demel after this GW

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      1. Hazardous
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        azpi wont start both games mate

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        1. OPTA FPL
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          any reason?

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        2. HERECOMETHEBELGIANS!
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Is worth a punt. Rafa seems to love him...

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    3. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      no one gonn tell you becuae you should use your 2own brain 😉

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