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With a single goal in his last six appearances, Robin Van Persieโ€™s season seems to be stuttering to a halt as United close in on the title. Having notched six times in the previous five league fixtures, the Dutchmanโ€™s drought has had a huge impact across the Fantasy games โ€“ coinciding with a return to fitness which has seen Wayne Rooney find the net five times by comparison. As the transfers out continue to flow, our latest article for members focuses on the pairโ€™s respective performances over those matches and also casts an eye on Van Persieโ€™s previous displays to establish whether there is any real cause for concern:

Robin Van Persie – Involvement & Creativity Per Match Averages – Last Six Matches

Minutes Per TouchMins Per Pass ReceivedTouches – Final ThirdPasses Received – Final ThirdSuccessful Passes – Final ThirdChances CreatedMins Per Chances Created
23.722.29.76.81.358

Wayne Rooney – Involvement & Creativity Per Match Averages – Last Six Matches

Minutes Per TouchMins Per Pass ReceivedTouches – Final ThirdPasses Received – Final ThirdSuccessful Passes – Final ThirdChances CreatedMins Per Chances Created
1.4229.720.514.32.334
RWP GW24-30
Rooney GW24-30

As the above maps indicate, Rooneyโ€™s role (right) has been more withdrawn than the Dutchmanโ€™s (left) over the featured period. Dropping deep to link with the midfield, the former Everton man has received a pass from team mates at almost twice the pace of Van Persie (2.1 to 3.9) and although this is understandable due to their respective roles, Rooney has also proven superior in the final third of the pitch in terms of involvement.

While Van Persie has averaged 23.5 touches in the final third between Gameweeks 24 and 30, Rooney has registered 30.3. The latter has received over double the number of passes (20.5 to 9.7), and has made over twice the number of successful passes in this crucial attacking area (14.5 to 7). Although the Dutchman has returned three FPL assists to Rooneyโ€™s two over the six featured matches, heโ€™s offered far less creativity โ€“ averaging 1.3 โ€œkey passesโ€ to Rooneyโ€™s 2.3, which equates to a chance created every 60.6 minutes in compared to the far quicker pace of 36.1 minutes offered by Rooney.

Sorting the forwards statistics by โ€œLast Six Matchesโ€, itโ€™s telling to see that only Fulhamโ€™s Bryan Ruiz has averaged more touches than Rooney (1.1 to 1.3), while the Costa Rican also edges Rooney into second for minutes per pass received, by 2 to 2.1. Indeed, while Rooney is second for chances created, with 14 to Rickie Lambertโ€™s 15, Van Persieโ€™s total of 8 over his last six appearances puts him on a par with Arouna Kone and Andy Carroll. Furthermore, Rooneyโ€™s above-mentioned average of 36.1 minutes per key pass is second to Carlos Tevez (34.2) for regular starters, demonstrating his constant creativity and suggesting heโ€™s been unlucky to pick up just two assists over the timeframe.

Robin Van Persie – Goal Threat Per Match Averages – Last Six Matches

Touches – Pen AreaGoal AttemptsGoal Attempts In BoxOn TargetShot AccuracyMins Per ChanceGoal Conversion
5.33.21.71.556.324.55.3

Wayne Rooney – Goal Threat Per Match Averages – Last Six Matches

Touches – Pen AreaGoal AttemptsGoal Attempts In BoxOn TargetShot AccuracyMins Per ChanceGoal Conversion
4.54.02.01.246.720.120.8

Given that Van Persie has notched just once, itโ€™s perhaps surprising to see he has actually seen more of the ball inside the penalty area than Rooney, with 5.8 touches to 5.2 per game. Rooney, however, has offered the greater threat โ€“ he has averaged 4 shots per game over the six matches in comparison to Van Persieโ€™s 3.2 and, despite seeing less of the ball in the box, has been more consistent in producing efforts from close range, with 2.2 shots inside the area to Van Persieโ€™s 1.8. In terms of minutes per attempt, Rooney slightly edges it with a shot every 21 minutes to Van Persieโ€™s average of 25.5.

Analysing the pairโ€™s accuracy, though, Van Persie clearly remains a major threat. He has registered more shots on target per game (1.5 to 1.2) than Rooney โ€“ crucially, what this boils down to is that 47.4% of his shots have been on target in comparison to just 29.2% of Rooneyโ€™s efforts, a definite sign that his threat remains significant. Due to the endeavours of opposition keepers, the Dutchman has failed to flourish. Van Persie has scored just one of his 19 attempts, then, (a conversion rate of 5%), while Rooney has found the net with 20.8% of his efforts (24 shots, 5 goals).

Again, looking at other forwards sorted by โ€œLast Six Matchesโ€ , itโ€™s somewhat reassuring for Van Persieโ€™s owners to see that only two forwards โ€“ Daniel Sturridge and Javier Hernandez โ€“ have produced more efforts on target, with 12 and 11 respectively. Rooney has managed 7 shots on target, scoring 5 times, then, while the Dutchmanโ€™s poor conversion has resulted in one goal from 9 shots on target โ€“ a tally mirrored by Luis Suarez and Romelu Lukaku, who scored 5 and 4 times respectively, while Christian Benteke found the net 5 times from 8 efforts on target.
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Robin Van Persie – Involvement & Creativity Per Match Averages – GW’s 19-23

Minutes Per TouchMins Per Pass ReceivedTouches – Final ThirdPasses Received – Final ThirdSuccessful Passes – Final ThirdChances CreatedMins Per Chances Created
1.7324.611.88.40.897

Robin Van Persie – Goal Threat Per Match Averages – GW’s 19-23

Touches – Pen AreaGoal AttemptsGoal Attempts In BoxOn TargetShot AccuracyMins Per ChanceGoal Conversion
5.64.43.22.058.817.727.3

Having compared Van Persieโ€™s performances to Rooney over the last six, we now analyse them against his previous five appearances โ€“ a period where Rooney played just 29 minutes, after climbing off the bench to signal his return from injury in the Gameweek 23 clash with Tottenham.

Immediately, you can see the impact Rooney has made on Van Persieโ€™s overall involvement; his previous average of 3.2 minutes per pass received has dropped to 3.9, while the Dutchmanโ€™s touches in the final third slipped from 28.8 to 23.5 over the two periods. In terms of passes received in the final third, the decrease has been minimal (11.6 to 9.7), while the same also applies to the number of successful passes Van Persie has made in the danger area โ€“ moving from 8.8 per appearance between Gameweek 19-23 down to 7 per appearance over Gameweek 24-30. Perhaps surprisingly, Van Persieโ€™s creativity has increased in recent weeks, moving from 0.8 key passes to 1.3, or a chance created every 102.8 minutes to one every 60.6 minutes.

When we look at goal threat, though, thereโ€™s been a definite difference. Although Van Persie has more or less registered the same touches in the box (6.0 has slipped slightly to 5.8), his previous average of 4.4 attempts per game without Rooney has now slumped to 3.2 โ€“ intriguingly, this was the number of efforts he was averaging inside the box in Rooneyโ€™s absence and not far off double his current average of 1.8 efforts from close range. Van Persie was also producing more shots on target (2 to 1.5) over the first period and while his overall accuracy has dropped a touch (47.4% to 45.5%) it remains far superior to Rooneyโ€™s recent level of 29.2%.

Previously, the Dutchman was registering a shot every 18.7 minutes – better than his or Rooneyโ€™s current rate of 25.5 and 21 respectively, though the main issue, as mentioned above, is really just his current conversion rate. Without Rooney alongside him, Van Persie tucked away 27.3% of his chances over Gameweeks 19-23 and, while itโ€™s clear his strike partner has impacted upon his performances since returning, Van Persie only really has himself โ€“ and, in part, opposition keepers โ€“ to blame for this plummeting to a lowly 5.3%. With a season average conversion rate of 18.4%, though, an upturn on Fantasy performances looks on the cards despite a definite decrease in his overall threat since Rooney’s return to the United XI.

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  1. Manani
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    talking about music, I think Kanye West is quality. All of his albums (except for 808) are amazing!
    Not to mention many production of his!

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    1. COMH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      College Dropout is a brilliant album. Late Registration another solid effort. Graduation has some nice tracks. MBDTF is a complex album. I think it will become better over time.

      All his auto-tune stuff is horrible though.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
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        everytime I listen to MBDTF, it gets better! No jokes!

        I still can't decide which is the best album!

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    2. Henry Hill
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      808s was ok but was just one of those albums where the artist tries something completely different and it never quite works. Saw him live last year with Jay-Z, they are both unreal live, great gig.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
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        wow! Watching JayZ+Kanye life? I envy you!

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        1. Manani
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          is that the Watch The Throne tour?

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          1. Henry Hill
            • 16 Years
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            Ya that tour, they put on a great show. Thought they might release it on DVD but that never happened, Jay going on a tour with Justin Timberblake this summer ๐Ÿ™„

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            1. Manani
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              very bipolar combination, I don't really think it works out to be fair. e.g. Jay's verse in Suit&Tie just doesn't really fit in the song. I suppose it helps to promote both though.

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              1. Henry Hill
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                I think Jay drops on anything popular to keep himself relevant like Beyonce, Rihanna, Kanye and now Justin. A shame as since he started doing this his albums have been pretty mediocre, American Gangster was his last good one

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                1. Manani
                  • 14 Years
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                  he's a business, man!

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                  1. Henry Hill
                    • 16 Years
                    12 years, 9 months ago

                    Let him handle his business, damn

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    3. CHANCING PUNT
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      Went to the Watch the Throne tour in Birmingham. As their individual stages rise, its really something.

      Check out my YouTube video of H.A.M/Who Gon Stop Me from the gig:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmiWIGBglmg

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        I really hate it when people start pulling their phone/camera to record the whole thing.
        Just enjoy the moment for god sake! ๐Ÿ˜›

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  2. COMH
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Henry Hill

    Jeru The Damaja the Gang Starr affiliate. One of the best rappers out there. Lyrical wizard. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0zHaI4Soqk

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    1. Henry Hill
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      Good song mate, I will check out more of his stuff.

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Classic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk1pMRRzKSA

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  3. Hybrid.power
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    Just throwing this out there..
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52_Fm2J0kVw

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    1. Qubit
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Ill have some of that, thanks ๐Ÿ˜€

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      1. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        I would give my left testicle to see them live. Bloody amazing.

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    2. Qubit
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      Classical Mushroom:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynBgM795efo

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      1. Hybrid.power
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        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Bust a Move is a great track off that album. I just love how all their songs start and end so differently. An 8+ minute track never gets boring

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  4. COMH
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    One of my favourite albums. Smooth as silk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uilg4osWvzI

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    1. Efan Ekoku Pops
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Now we're talking! Had a beer with Huey when they played at my local music venue in Last of the Summer Wine country. Top guy.

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah he comes across really well. I remember him on TFI Friday's back in the 90's and he was always having a laugh and playing great music. Come Find Yourself is an amazing album.

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    2. Optimus.
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZUHhK6Untz0

      in my top 3 live shows with chem bros n daft punk ๐Ÿ˜€

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Amazing!

        Listen to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3EVYqEWA90

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    1. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      brings me back that one ๐Ÿ™‚

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      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Plumps on remix duties once again

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    2. COMH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Aaaaah this is epic. My first gf bought me the Trainspotting soundtrack for my birthday. Memories!

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    3. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I remember Born Slippy was always the last tune that they'd play in my local club when I was still in school. The memories!

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      1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Make sure you listen to it all the way through if you havnt done so it's a remix

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  5. the axolotl
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    12 years, 9 months ago

    more from the criminally underrated midlake;

    for balloon fans....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsTEtC3VqMw

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  6. Back to Back Ballacks
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    Whip up the volume, make a space in front of you and press play on this absolute BEAST of a tune.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPbsce4grYs

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    1. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      I prefer this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrjRaIP2FIs

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  7. Manani
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    funny nearly half the songs in youtube, people relate them to Illuminati ๐Ÿ˜†

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  8. CHANCING PUNT
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Went to watch Nas at the London O2 on Tuesday night. Played with a live band, the best way to perform as a Hip-Hop artist within a large venue in my opinion.

    Personal highlight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=81RLuK5z82o

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      would love to go to these concerts! shame that none of my friend is into hip hop.

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  9. Henry Hill
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    12 years, 9 months ago

    I'm on Season 2 of The Wire, loved the first season but underwhelmed by this one albeit after just a couple of episodes. The blokes in the seaport just not interesting me, do they get any more compelling?

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    1. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Haven't seen it in years, but it does get better. Season 5 is the weak link in my opinion, but the ending wraps up nicely.

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    2. COMH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      They do mate. I immediately missed the ghetto boys but I ended up liking Season 2 more than 3 and 5. Stick with it.

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    3. RoysCallerAnne
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      It's all good. Just keep calm and captain The Wire.

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      1. Back to Back Ballacks
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        ๐Ÿ™‚

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    4. 1966 was a great year for E…
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      I think the second season is probably the worst, but it sets things up for season 3, which is the best.

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    5. 1mills
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Most definitely.

      Season 2 is my favourite season personally.

      Got to view The Wire as one just big story though. Genius tv.

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      1. Henry Hill
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers lads. I'll stick with it fo sho, Omar is my favourite character

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        1. Hybrid.power
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Omar will always be everyone's favourite character

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          1. 1mills
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            Indeed.

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        2. 1mills
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          There's more Omar to come then. Was about to say more but can't remember if mentioning context of scene ruins any build up from other episodes.

          Basically when he's interacting with Levy, Stringer/Barksdale lawyer.

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    6. Back to Back Ballacks
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      felt the same,stick with it, they grow on you.
      1 4 5 are the best seasons but WATCH THEM ALL.

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    7. Zep
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Season 2 is probably the worst of all the seasons, but it's still brilliant...

      Season 4 is my personal favourite...

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    8. Billy Ketsu
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I loved season 2. It looked like an attempt at a 1950s - style classic American drama to me, shades of Elia Kazan and Arthur Miller. Powerful stuff.

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  10. the axolotl
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    and maybe the finest song of all time - ish ๐Ÿ™‚

    van morrison

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QzDWIOUnM0

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    1. TokyoRed ๆฑไบฌ่ตค
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      Great album, miserable bastard.

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  11. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Just dropped in to see music is everywhere on here! Excellent..

    Any soul fans about? If so check out this guy. He's the Stevie WOnder of our time:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18d-P8TnAto&list=FL4RqBsarClhp_xzkKyszClw&index=8

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    1. COMH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Love a bit of Soul music

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=moiUyFQQE-0

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      1. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Old Skool. Top stuff.

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  12. the axolotl
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    ok, last one, i'll leave with you with spiritualized, about as mellow as it gets...................;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOL1291ryKM

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      ๐Ÿ˜€

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    2. TokyoRed ๆฑไบฌ่ตค
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      I love this band. Probably the best band of the 90s, wonderful live.

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    3. Billy Ketsu
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I just listened to this the other day for the first time in years. Brilliant band, one of my favourites. I like the contrast between his tiny little voice and the massive sound behind it.

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  13. CHANCING PUNT
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Any Kendrick Lamar fans? Probably the best up and coming young rapper in Hip-Hop.

    Had a good last year or so in terms of gigs, not my video but was there for this, hell of a reaction.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lomkul1fFvw

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Kendrick Lamar is the new sh!t.
      gonna be huge in a few years.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        apparently 'backseat freestyle' is made when he was 16

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      2. CHANCING PUNT
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Big J. Cole fan too. Looks like they could be working together really soon.

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        1. Manani
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          J.Cole is amazing too!
          Can't wait for the 2 to collaborate! gonna be dope!

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    2. COMH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Yes mate. He is brilliant. My favourite track off the new album.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQhTvO8LNSw

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        And this off Section 80

        Amazing track

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        1. CHANCING PUNT
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Have you heard the Kendrick-Jay-Z remix for B, Don't Kill My Vibe?

          Wasn't overly impressed with Jay's verse, seemed like quite a throwaway one. Guess he just jumps on what's hot to keep himself on the radio whilst churning out the next album. A shame though.

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          1. COMH
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            I read about it yesterday then gave it a listen. I knew before I heard the Jay-Z verse it wouldn't be all that. Reasonable Doubt is an amazing album and most of his stuff since hasn't come close to that. Too commercial most of it for mu liking.

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            1. CHANCING PUNT
              • 12 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              I'm a sucker for the soulful beats of the Blueprint, but the double/triple entendre's and metaphors on RD are probably his finest work. His Illmatic, his masterpiece.

              "I kept feeding her money until her sh*t started to make cents/sense..."

              Wow.

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      2. CHANCING PUNT
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Fine choice.

        Had this on a couple of times tonight, love this track from Section 80.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKJpeNZ1B3k

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        1. COMH
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Quality track. His lyrics are brilliant. Not trying to be anyone but himself. Section 80 is a nice album.

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    3. organdonor47
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      Perhaps lesser known but in my opinion easily the best kendrick track: http://vimeo.com/51796568

      Gunplay verses kill it (pardon the pun)

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      1. CHANCING PUNT
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Kendrick actually finishes some of his gigs with this song, so more well known than it was. Also like "Westside, Right on Time"

        Good shout.

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  14. Egg noodle
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    New page ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    1. Egg noodle
      • 15 Years
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      or not... ๐Ÿ˜ณ

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      1. TokyoRed ๆฑไบฌ่ตค
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        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        When you code the aeroplanes does it involve counting to 30? If so, airbus or boeing?

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        1. Egg noodle
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          I code Rolls Royce engines for Airbus.
          I wasn't sure if the page trips ON 30 posts or AFTER 30 posts ๐Ÿ™
          Decided to guess instead of check some other page. and failed... ๐Ÿ™

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        2. Back to Back Ballacks
          • 15 Years
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          ๐Ÿ˜†

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  15. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
    • 14 Years
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    Right I'm off to bed really enjoyed it on here tonight, night all ๐Ÿ™‚

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    1. COMH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Night mate. Nice trackin!

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  16. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Any love for Sigur Ros? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gf1h2PMPCAo

    Saw them in Glasgow a few weeks ago. Definitely buying tickets for their Dublin show when they go on sale next week

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    1. TokyoRed ๆฑไบฌ่ตค
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      • 14 Years
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      Yes, yes, yes

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    2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
      • 13 Years
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      I sigur ros and raise you this...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3OJTZVKZx8

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
          • 13 Years
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          ๐Ÿ˜€

          Another great one...

          I really do well up whenever I listen to that track off ( ) ^

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          1. Hybrid.power
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
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            ( ) and Agaetis Byrjun are the only albums, by anyone, that I can listen to straight through, no matter what I'm feeling

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
              • 13 Years
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              ( ) is a really special album for me, it brings back so many memories of when I was younger *sniff* ๐Ÿ™

              ๐Ÿ˜€

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              1. Hybrid.power
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
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                When I saw them live a few weeks ago, they played Untitled 6 (E-Bow). I never thought I'd see them play that live and I was just awestruck. It was very emotional!

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BF_cnD9_GQ

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                1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                  • 13 Years
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                  they're one of those bands...nearly every song can leave you awestruck...that's what I loved so much about ( ) when it first came out, I just felt like it was something so incomprehensibly beautiful, you're just sitting there in awe and soaking it all in.

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              2. Hybrid.power
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                • 15 Years
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                Also, Popplagio is the best song to hear live ever! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYShhTuScLg

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                1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 9 months ago

                  'you sighed along a long fire'

                  I remember trying to work out the lyrics before I realised it was hopelandic ๐Ÿ™‚

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                  1. Hybrid.power
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                    • 15 Years
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                    LOL! It's the only music I can that you can mumble too and you're not wrong ๐Ÿ˜›

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      2. Zep
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        If you like them you will love Olafur Arnalds...

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRrX80qdaTI

        This is a good album...

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        1. Hybrid.power
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          You should check out this doumentary, it features Olafur http://vimeo.com/34608191

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          1. Zep
            • 15 Years
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            Good man, will do...

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        2. organdonor47
          • 15 Years
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          Lame to fame: Oli was my flat mate up until a few months ago. (Dunno how to do sunglasses). If you like him you should check out the show broadchurch for his soundtrack (shown on itv in the uk i believe)

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          1. Zep
            • 15 Years
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            Wow that's awesome dude... Thanks, I certainly will check that out...

            8 - ) with no spaces ๐Ÿ˜Ž

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    3. the axolotl
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      Favourite band by a distance

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  17. Manani
    • 14 Years
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFRZseZY8-k

    best crowd ever?
    it is like everyone from there can sing well!
    amazing vibe

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  18. COMH
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Manani, Henry Hill, Chancing Punt. Check out Action Bronson. Albanian rapper from Queens. Sounds like Ghostface and has some good material out.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPCQgzA1cnU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ohbKidZLiA

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    1. CHANCING PUNT
      • 12 Years
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      Heard a little of him, will check out some more.

      Ever listened to Earl Sweatshirt? In particular a track called "Chum"? Give it a go if not.

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    2. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      does he have any mixtape?
      to be fair, I haven't been listening to hip hop for quite that long, so don't know who Ghostface is ๐Ÿ˜†

      pretty decent song though. but I prefer Kanye West type soul rap music

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      1. CHANCING PUNT
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Ghostface Killah, of the Wu-Tang. Here's one of his more recent songs, 2006 I think, lyrical but also incredibly entertaining. Complete with Rocky samples.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbSYgSOZHqI

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      2. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Ghostface Killah from Wu-Tang

        You'll like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qzacv8dtb4

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        1. COMH
          • 13 Years
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          And this

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BONgL61snlM

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          1. CHANCING PUNT
            • 12 Years
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            Yep, Lupe recently sampled this for a single.

            Caused quite a stir actually. Great music.

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            1. Henry Hill
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              Did you hear Lupe's latest song? He released a song in dedication to a 6 month old baby who was killed in a drive-by shooting in his home city. Deep track, you can read more about the shooting here:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2291995/Jonylah-Watkins-Baby-dies-Chicago-shot-times-attack-father.html

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU775YOAfkw

              Breaking Bad fans might recognise the beat from a famous scene in the show

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              1. CHANCING PUNT
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 9 months ago

                I'd read about it, but this is my first time hearing it. Lupe's been purposely out of the limelight as of late (aside from publicly slagging Obama that is).

                He's got a special gift for deep tracks I find, not always about such sad events but songs with a deeper meaning.

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                1. Henry Hill
                  • 16 Years
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                  Lupe's last album was crap, he should do deep tracks like this all the time.

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                  1. CHANCING PUNT
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 9 months ago

                    Not sure about that!

                    Lasers was, I thought F&L 2 was a return to form. Admittedly not as good as his first two albums mind you.

                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4TC0E211KI

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                  2. Henry Hill
                    • 16 Years
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                    Sorry Lasers I meant was crap, forgot about F&L 2

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          2. CHANCING PUNT
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VojfkAZZqXA

            De La Soul - Much More.

            "I play the XBox instead of messing with dice..."

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            1. COMH
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              Brilliant track mate. Liking your taste in Hip Hop.

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        2. Manani
          • 14 Years
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          love it ๐Ÿ˜€
          slightly too laid back though

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    3. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
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      Ya I like Action too Hristo, here's new song of his I like:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHWewXSiQEE

      Really looking forward to Ghostface's new album Twelve Reasons To Die that is dropping April 16th, probably best of the Wu-Tang members solo wise. This is one of the tracks off it that leaked:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtHb0ALkFzo

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      1. CHANCING PUNT
        • 12 Years
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        I think an album stream for the new record was released earlier today, might be worth checking some Hip-Hop websites for it.

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        1. Henry Hill
          • 16 Years
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          Na just snippets of all songs think, that and the few tracks that leaked it sounds really promising, Really hope it leaks soon

          http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/listen-to-album-snippets-from-ghostface-killah-and-adrian-younge-s-12-reasons-to-die-news.4996.html

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        2. organdonor47
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Chancing - seeing as you seem to know your contemporary stuff - any ideas about jay electronica act 2? Kind of given up waiting ๐Ÿ™

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          1. CHANCING PUNT
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            He's apparently got it done.

            But until Jay-Z gets a marketable single it's going to be on the shelf, that's my understanding of it.

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            1. organdonor47
              • 15 Years
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              Heard the one about him finishing a few times before huh? Ah well, sure it'll be worth it... Cheers.

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      2. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah looking forward to his new album and then his album with MF DOOM.

        Wu album dropping this year also.

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        1. Henry Hill
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Have got to see the Wu live before I die, who's your favourite member? Probably Method Man for me

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          1. Rafabio
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            Mr Meth for sure, http://youtu.be/bMxXmVVR4wE

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          2. CHANCING PUNT
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            Ghostface. Certainly the most consistent in my opinion. Fishscale, Pretty Toney album, Ironman all personal favourites.

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            1. Rafabio
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              Loved Ironman, Assassination Day!!

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            2. COMH
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              Supreme Clientele is one of the best Wu albums!

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          3. COMH
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            It was Meth until the late 90's then he started sounding different on records. Too clean compared to the older stuff.

            Inspectah Deck or Ghostface for me.

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            1. Henry Hill
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              Tough question to answer as so many of them are unreal - Deck, GZA, RZA, Ghost, Meth, Rae. Ghost probably the best solo wise, Meth seems so brilliant live too.

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              1. CHANCING PUNT
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 9 months ago

                A few of them toured in my city last year. I think that's the best we as fans will get now, can't see the remaining members all coming together for a tour.

                Only earlier this week Ghostface was slagging some of the work on 8 Diagrams.

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                1. Henry Hill
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 9 months ago

                  They played Glastonbury in 2011, Rae was absent though. Set was great but crowd were poor, they didn't really know the classic tracks and they were probably on too early in the day.

                  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkcA_MuI6OA

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  19. Zep
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Some brilliant songs being posted here...

    Here's a band that I fell in love with as soon as I heard them...

    If you have 10 minutes to spare, give this a listen... ๐Ÿ˜‰

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZcGc-nbLco

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    1. TokyoRed ๆฑไบฌ่ตค
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Is that new Yes?

      http://youtu.be/nlNantlznCA

      King Crimson must be on your list too then?

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      1. Zep
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        I absolutely love King Crimson as well...

        Epitaph is my favourite...

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      ๐Ÿ˜†

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  21. Hybrid.power
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    • 15 Years
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    Anyone hear of The Album Leaf? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66yTEr7ZnO4

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  22. RoysCallerAnne
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    • 15 Years
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    This place is gone a bit cerrazzy. I'm very surprised that my favourite chooooon of all time seems to be missing ; Barney's classic "If all the Raindrops were Lemon Drops and Gum Drops."
    It's taken from his seminal debut album, Barney's Favourites (Vol 1) from 1993.
    It was re-released in 2000 as part of his much criticized "Greatest Hits" album.....fans were unhappy that it was relegated to Track 3.
    More worryingly, this classic piece was unceremoniously dumped down to Track 14 for Barney's "Big Surprise" LP, also released in 2000.

    I won't bother with the youtube link because I'm fairly certain you're all pretty embarrassed that this modern day classic has been overlooked in this thread and you're all humming it in your FPL starved tiny minds as we speak.

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    1. Hybrid.power
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      • 15 Years
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      I kind of lost interest in Barney after his third stint in rehab. He just became incomprehensible.

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      1. TokyoRed ๆฑไบฌ่ตค
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        • 14 Years
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        Vicodin steals another legend.

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    2. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      too young to have listen to any of those!

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  23. Manani
    • 14 Years
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3C-i3mcPwE

    I really like this rap song too!
    dope beat, slick verse from all the features, and Kendrick just killed it from his last verse.

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  24. CHANCING PUNT
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsZKrctSDaw

    Any Jurassic 5 love?

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    1. COMH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Definitely mate! This is the track I was thinking of when I saw your post. Classic.

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      1. CHANCING PUNT
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        I too am sick of phony mobsters controlling the dancefloor.

        Really hit the nail on the head with that line!

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      2. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Their turntablist DJ Nu-Mark is incredible. Check him out on YouTube doing an improvised set with all kinds of equipment.

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        1. CHANCING PUNT
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Just checked it. Brilliant. The original lineup is actually going on a mini UK tour, might be worth checking for tickets if you can.

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    2. Manani
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      12 years, 9 months ago

      this is quality! ๐Ÿ˜€

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  25. Manani
    • 14 Years
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    I just wonder, how many times listen does it take for you guys to get all the verses from a rap song?

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    1. COMH
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      I'm a beat junkie. I get the lyrics gradually over time. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        nice to know that I am not the only one ๐Ÿ˜€
        I think the vibe is more important than anything (hence the important for the flow), and everytime I get something lyrics wise I didn't get before! It is like a new experience everytime ๐Ÿ˜€

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        1. Egg noodle
          • 15 Years
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          If I don't understand all the words within 5 plays then I never listen to the song ever again. Yes, its true.

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          1. Manani
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            ๐Ÿ˜†
            how about if you understand the word, but don't know the meaning/reference to it?

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            1. Egg noodle
              • 15 Years
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              I dont know the meanings of many words anyway because I am not English. But I MUST be able to sing along, thats why I want to know all the words. I dont care if I understand the meaning or not ๐Ÿ˜€

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              1. Manani
                • 14 Years
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                ๐Ÿ˜† fair enough.
                I sometimes look it up if I really like the beat/vibe.

                I am not English too! and I have to say, everytime I look the lyrics up, I learn things that I don't know before!

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    2. CHANCING PUNT
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Often depends on which region or nation the rap has come from. I never fully understand the dialect or accent of some Southern rappers, mostly because I was brought up on primarily East coast rappers (Nas, Biggie, Jay-Z, Wu-Tang, Guru, Rakim...)

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        lupe and J.Cole are some of the few which I can listen what they are rapping in my first listening

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    3. In Like Flynn.
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      62,827,586

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        well at least you get all the verses ๐Ÿ˜†

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    4. Gaz Downright
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      • 15 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      rap song...

      motorcycle car...

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  26. COMH
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Gang Starr - Soliloquy Of Chaos - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD-YTMOTlNg

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    1. CHANCING PUNT
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Real shame Guru passed.

      Still dream of Preemo doing more work with Nas.

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah Premo and Nas is the next best thing.

        You heard much Jeru The Damaja?

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vk1pMRRzKSA

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        1. CHANCING PUNT
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Yeah I've got me some Jeru.

          The Preemo-Nas combo is a strange one, barring the song "Classic" they've not worked together since Stillmatic over a decade ago. Strange when you think of the early music they've created together.

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  27. CHANCING PUNT
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzokAVkFLyQ

    Nasir. Some of the best storytelling of his career. Really paints a picture the whole way through, love the first few bars especially though.

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    1. Henry Hill
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Great track from a really underrated album mate, was he really good live the other day? Have a DVD of him live and he seems to run out of breath a lot. Love the end of it where he brings out Jadakiss and Luda for Made You Look remix though

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjh3SvnTfVI

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      1. CHANCING PUNT
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        I have that DVD too, I was a little concerned because he uses his hype man to finish most of his raps. Felt like he stepped it up in front of Luda and Jada mind!

        He was brilliant, really really tops. Live band with DJ Statik Selektah used for certain songs. A lot of Life is Good coverage but went through his old classics too (which is what I was hoping for). Been determined to hear "Get Down" live for years - finally heard it complete with a brilliant piece of trumpet playing.

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        1. Henry Hill
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          Thanks for feedback, I was meant to see him with Damian Marley couple years ago but was too broke to go. Really is on my bucket list to see him, love him to bits!

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    2. Scroobius Mac
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Great track. GOAT? Probably second in my books.

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        i am complied to ask who is 1st?

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        1. Scroobius Mac
          • 14 Years
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          Biggie for me. Pac, Jay-Z and Pun all close though.

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          1. Manani
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            who is Pun?
            I am not very educated on this hip hop thing ๐Ÿ˜›

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            1. Scroobius Mac
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 9 months ago

              Big Pun. Flow is insane.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiwvPmRTv6M

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              1. Manani
                • 14 Years
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                insane flow indeed!
                thank you for that

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                1. Scroobius Mac
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 9 months ago

                  Dead in the middle of Little Italy little did we know
                  that we riddled some middleman who didn't do diddily

                  Just so good.

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                  1. Manani
                    • 14 Years
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                    how effortless did he rap that line is beyond my imagination

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                  2. CHANCING PUNT
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 9 months ago

                    His breathing really affected his later works I thought, couldn't quite pull off this effortless flow. Such a shame.

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      2. CHANCING PUNT
        • 12 Years
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        My GOAT now, yeah. Pure longevity has elevated him above Biggie to me. Jay is really tight up there for me too.

        I love the resurrection of Nas, after the failure of Nastradamus and struggling with his mothers death around the time of Stillmatic. As soon as the intro comes into the album you know he's found redemption.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avQioEwD6zI

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        1. Scroobius Mac
          • 14 Years
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          Like Hicks in a way critically Biggie was a benefit of his own demise.

          Illmatic is artistically amazing. Combining the flow and to some level polished production with upmost street grit and then as you say returning with Stillmatic I mean you could've released the album with just Ether and it would still be a classic.

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          1. CHANCING PUNT
            • 12 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            Its potential vs. reality, Biggie potentially could have dominated rap. But its important to remember sometimes that him and Nas were very close in terms of popularity and critical acclaim at the time - before adding on the 10 albums Nas followed up with.

            The age of these guys still baffles me. Nas was writing Illmatic in his late teenage years.

            In saying that Biggie's verse on Notorious Thugs is amongst my top 10 ever I think.

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            1. COMH
              • 13 Years
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              Black Thought from the Roots, Big L and Andre 3000 all up there for me. All lyrically incredible and individual.

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              1. Scroobius Mac
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 9 months ago

                I remember being 16ish and couldn't understand why Eminem put "Andre from Outkast" on his top list in Till I Collapse. Needless to say I understand now. So underrated.

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      really good stuff!
      gonna favourite it ๐Ÿ˜€

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      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        the album aartwork freaks me out a bit ๐Ÿ˜†

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  28. COMH
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Check this out. Priest/pimp from Chicago affiliated to Rza.

    Nice sample

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRyKsMzlSF0

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    1. Manani
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      can't listen to a word he's rapping ๐Ÿ˜†

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    2. CHANCING PUNT
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Top stuff!

      A classic Killah Priest, also a Wu-Tang affiliate from back in the day:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdUmkm6wJfM

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      1. COMH
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        One of my favourite tracks. Tekitha is an amazing singer too.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GxvvorKjVY

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  29. Zep
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 9 months ago

    Mark Lanegan - Carry Home

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDoYWWUw2T8

    Anyone that likes alternative music would do well to get all his stuff...

    One of my favourite artists...

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      1. Zep
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 9 months ago

        Yeah, it's up there...

        In fairness the whole Bubblegum album is brilliant...

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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 9 months ago

          PJ Harvey too...I love everything she does, saw her live too...she was bloody brilliant

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          1. Zep
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 9 months ago

            I love her stuff.. ๐Ÿ˜€

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    2. CHANCING PUNT
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 9 months ago

      Watched him at Reading festival last year. Few beers in the sun sitting on the grass watching this, doesn't get much better.

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    3. Billy Ketsu
      • 14 Years
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      That's great. Lanegan's ace and I love the Gun Club. Kid Congo Powers (C).

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