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As Benteke runs riot and Liverpool blossom without Suarez to spank Newcastle in their own backyard, Fantasy managers were treated to a profitable Gameweek, with a fair smattering of controversy thrown in. As the dust settles, we pay tribute to the Belgian destroyer, the Merseyside blitz and try to find sense amongst “Bale-gate” Monday.

The Player

With just Monday night’s Villa Park encounter remaining, both Daniel Sturridge and Romelu Lukaku looked primed to wrestle the mantle of the Gameweek’s star man. Christian Benteke’s latest one-man show changed matters, however.

While we’ve already dealt with the numbers behind Benteke’s achievements this season, one statistic that sums up his role more than any other is the fact that he’s played a part in 59% of the goals scored by his side – a level of involvement that surpasses any other player in the league. Quite simply, Villa would likely have been relegated by this stage had the Belgian not been a factor.

The irony of all this is that, early in the season, Paul Lambert was being lambasted for leaving Darren Bent in the stands, watching on while a largely unproven striker led the line. Lambert knew better, however. His patience with Benteke as he settled into his stride and Villa’s pattern of play should be commended. By the time Benteke struck a brace as Liverpool were embarrassed by his talent at Anfield in Gameweek 17, it was clear that Lambert had been right to back the new arrival. Bent has failed to earn a recall, leaving Benteke to notch 18 goals in first top flight season.

The summer will doubtless bring mounting speculation on Benteke’s future at the club but, in many ways, Lambert deserves to have the impressive Belgian at his disposal next term, as a reward for his judgment and unshakable faith in young players. Certainly, Fantasy managers will welcome the opportunity to work with Benteke again, although this season’s price tag of 6.5 in the Fantasy Premier League game is set for an almighty hike.

The Team

They were supposed to be a one man team. Without Luis Suarez, Liverpool would struggle, many assumed. Instead, a trip to St James’ Park afforded the Merseysiders the perfect opportunity to draw a line under the biting controversy that had dogged them since the Uruguayan decided to sink him teeth into Branislav Ivanovic the previous weekend. With Daniel Sturridge handed the chance to lead the line in Brendan Rodgers’ 4-3-3, Liverpool tore apart a sorry Magpies side in a display of slick, attacking football that not only caught the eye but delivered their most emphatic victory of the season.

Sturridge was hugely instrumental. Having climbed off the bench the previous week to deliver a goal and assist against his former club Chelsea, he vindicated the show of faith that had persuaded over 50,000 FPL managers to snap him up in light of Suarez’s suspension with a brace and assist in a clinical performance. Since arriving from Stamford Bridge back in January, Sturridge has now delivered seven goals, four assists and five bonus points – over 11 appearances, that’s 66 points, or six points per game; only Robin Van Persie (7.0) and Suarez (6.4) have managed more this term amongst forwards. With Suarez set to remain on the sidelines for the remaining three games of this season and the first six of the following campaign, Sturridge has the potential to be a key Fantasy asset – many will surely be pencilling him to their three man frontlines over the summer when the price lists are rolled out in July.

Elsewhere for Rodgers’ side, an able cast of midfielders chipped in with substantial returns. Philippe Coutinho maintained his impressive displays since joining from Inter in January with a pair of assists and has now produced two goals and five assists in just nine starts, while the previously maligned Stewart Downing and Jordan Henderson continue to step up under Rodgers’ guidance. Downing mirrored Coutinho’s creative contribution while Henderson, operating as the most advanced central midfielder, equalled Sturridge’s haul with a brace and assist and is clearly thriving as a result of a consistency of starts. Frustratingly for Steven Gerrard’s owners, he failed to contribute to any of the Reds’ goals and now has just two converted spot-kicks in the last eight, with his deep-lying role relying on penalties and set-pieces to boost his points potential.

Encouragingly for Fantasy managers, Liverpool have now scored 67 goals this term – only Chelsea (68) and United (79) have managed more, though aside from Suarez and Gerrard, their assets have been kindly priced this term. Given the impact of Sturridge and Coutinho, it remains to be seen just what sort of price hike can be expected next time round but if the Reds continue in the same rich attacking vein, their popular Fantasy prospects will undoubtedly extend far beyond a certain Uruguayan.

The Talking Point

“Balegate” dominated our Monday morning. We spent the weekend waiting for the situation to resolve, only to see a status update that was first to deny us the assist and then, hours later, reward it. There was confusion, there was minor outrage but, when all said and done, most are in agreement that the right decision was made.

We shouldn’t lose sight of that. The Premier League reviewed the goal to assess whether Gareth Bale touched Tom Huddlestone’s cross, came to a conclusion and then reassessed that original verdict after further review. The process wasn’t perfect but at least it was transparent and, to my mind, the end decision was correct.

To a great extent, Monday’s events are a symptom of the current assist ruling. A definition that leads to few contentious issues over the season but, when they do arise, they create scenarios that have to be assessed with a human eye and are often incredibly difficult to unravel. They require an individual or a group of individuals to assess footage to an almost forensic level in order to ascertain whether player X has touched the ball.

The alternative is to tweak the ruling to revert back to what we had two seasons ago; to only consider touches when they make a significant difference to the path of the ball. Perhaps a flick on or touch that changes the course of the pass or cross before the goal is converted.

The problem here is that we are then increasing the subjectivity by making it an individual’s decision to judge what is a significant touch. Arguably, this would not only lead to an increase in the number of decisions to be made but also a hike in the amount of contentious assists awarded. It would also make it far harder to maintain consistency over the season.

So what do we want? Clarity and consistency that leads to fewer decisions but with the possibility of more controversial incidents? Or a degree of subjectivity which could lead to more frequent contention, perhaps on a smaller scale.

Personally, I lean towards the latter because I think it’s impossible to rule the subjectivity out completely using the existing system. It’s going to happen once or twice a season and when it does, it can create a storm rather than a mild tremor. For me, it seems easier to argue for or against a significant touch than to painstakingly examine footage to decipher whether the ball glanced off a stud or shin.

Imagine we had Bale’s incident but on the final day of the season with the overall game leaders and mini-leagues waiting on the decision. If we were basing the assist on a significant touch – whether Bale’s intervention led to Boyce scoring the own goal, the decision seems cut and dry – Huddlestone’s cross did not deviate enough to rob him of the assist – we don’t have to spare a thought as to whether Bale touched it or not. That’s a decision that can be made in seconds and, in this case, the argument against the verdict seems paper-thin.

This is just one case when, over the season, there would likely be a decision to make every match. To solve this, I’d probably go a stage further and let an expert make the decisions. Opta’s view of an assist is pretty clear:

“The final pass or pass come shot leading to the recipient of the ball scoring a goal.”

While this would give us fewer assists in the game and reduce the number of points being churned, it would mean that we’d have a ready-made decision maker available to assess each assist and an established and proven set of criteria available to refer to.

Opta are used to making these judgments, it’s their business. With Opta now the data provider for the Premier League, this route should be available but it would mean a fairly radical change to the game, in that we’d see the number of assists reduced which, in turn, could also reduce the bonus points allocated (depending on whether the PPI is retained as the basis of the bonus system next season).

Despite this, I think it’s the best route forward. Opta are experienced at making the call – their assists feed other Fantasy games and, in my view, they are a fair assessment of an assist award on a player level.

Players should not earn an assist if their cross is headed 30 yards outside the box before being converted. Players should not earn an assist if they choose to shoot only to see the ball rebound to a team-mate who then converts. The assist should only be awarded when the objective of the player delivering the ball is achieved eg: the pass to the intended target is completed before that target then scores.

The Premier League have expert decision makers available to them – data and football analyst experts who have a set assist criteria, established and proven. It might be wise to use them and take the points hit on the chin.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Tmel
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    I have 5DGW mids and RVP & Benteke up top. Is it worth doing Berba > Lukaku/Kone and benching Benteke?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      Yeah.

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    2. Eboue
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      N

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  2. Van Dal
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    is getting walcott over mata or hazard a good move?

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    1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      I thought about it...but then I decided Hazard was more worth a 4 point hit because he's a DGWer

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    2. Drogba "Unstoppable, U…
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      nopes....

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    3. Epic Fail
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      Not sure about getting him over them, but he does have a potentially profiting fixture. Could go either way but I'd go with the DGWer.

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    4. Van Dal
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      Thanks guys think i might just get him gw37 V Wigan

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  3. Willis.
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    lol cum-shot

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    1. Az
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      +1

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  4. Iain Dowies Love Child
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    Afternoon peoples. I have a dilemma - I need to shift Baines to fund other moves but can't decide who to bring in - money isn't really a problem. Defence would be:
    Dawson - Zaba - ??????

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    1. Lateriser 12
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      V.E.R.T.O.N.G.H.E.N.

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      1. Iain Dowies Love Child
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        Doubling up on Spurs not an issue?

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        1. Lateriser 12
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          Its either double spurs or double citeh or wba.

          Vertonghen is explosive.

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  5. Lateriser 12
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    One player you will definitely have in your team GW1 next season.

    Go go go!

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      Demel

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    2. frankiefernandez
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      Guy Demel

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      1. frankiefernandez
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        Or maybe Mauro Boselli

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        1. ASAP Rocky
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          +1 million 🙂

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    3. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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      bale obviously, what a stupid question

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      1. Lateriser 12
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        Your father.

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          1. Lateriser 12
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            Pushing it Laernu. Uncalled for.

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              sorry, but why mention my father?

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              1. Lateriser 12
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                Its a thing out here. Nevermind. Like your father mentioned your father.

                Or your face mentioned your father.

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                1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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                  I have no idea what you mean but ok.

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      2. Ógie
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        Who is to say that Bale wont go the same way Silva and Aguero went this session

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        1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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          because Bale is unarguably the best player in the world

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    4. COW
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      Cheapest goaly possible.

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    5. Ógie
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      I will name 2 Coutinho+Jones

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      1. JT's Dog
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          you broke the rules, go see the headteacher

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      2. Epic Fail
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        Falcao.

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        1. Ógie
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          +1

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      3. SW6
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        Bale

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      4. Van Dal
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        RVP

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        Robert Koren

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      6. Count of Monte Hristo
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        RVP

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        Demel

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      8. JT's Dog
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          suarez

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          1. Ógie
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            So you play fantasy bundesliga?

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            1. JT's Dog
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                what is he leaving, why?

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                1. Ógie
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                  His agent is Peps brother in law deal done

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            2. Goaldigger
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              slick

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          2. SuperOsçarBaby
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            André Schürrle

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          3. Tmel
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            Falcao if he signs. Also Bale

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          4. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            Ricky Van Wolfswinkel

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            1. Portuguese&Proud
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              this exactly 😉 he will be my budget striker

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          5. frankiefernandez
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            If Chelsea win the Europa, then they'll be in the European Super Cup again, so we might have a repeat of the situation at the start of this season where they have an early DGW, so maybe Mata/Hazard. I'd probably have one of those anyway, although they'll probably be super expensive.

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          6. Doolittle
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            All depends on summer transfers. If Falcao arrives, then him. If not, and Utd don't sign another striker, RVP.

            And Bale if he's still here.

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          7. Robbens Diving Instructor
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            matthew lowton

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            1. Ógie
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              Is there a fantasy championship?

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          8. Goaldigger
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            Both Bale and RVP probs. Won't leave a lot of budget for other players. Coutinho looks promising but will he play from the start? Hard to tell.

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          9. turd ferguson
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            Ronaldo

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            1. turd ferguson
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              and Jaask again

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        • ASAP Rocky
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          Bego – (Turnbull)

          Davies – Zabaleta – Bassong -(Baines – Harte)

          Bale – Michu – Gervinho – Sissoko – (Puncheon)

          RVP – Lukaku – Tevez

          Was thinking Baines > Vertonghen, Gervinho > Mata for a -4

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          1. ASAP Rocky
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            Please help ^^^^

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            1. Epic Fail
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              lol

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          2. Count of Monte Hristo
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            Keep Baines

            Bassong > Boyce + Gervinho > Mata

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            1. ASAP Rocky
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              I don't have the funds. Missing it by 0.3

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              1. Count of Monte Hristo
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                Lampard/Oscar instead?

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          3. Lateriser 12
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            I like those moves.
            Take another hit to get rid of Siss

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        • knightrider
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          is zabaleta at risk of rotation? thinking of either bringing him in or kompany.

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          1. COW
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            Komp is 100% starter. Im the same boat with Nasri. Will he play or wont he?!

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            1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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              Lescott or kolo can step in for kompany quite easily

              Don't think anyone bar hart if fit is nailed on

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        • Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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          *Gareth-gate

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          1. Pasqualinho
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            Gareth Southgate?

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            1. Goaldigger
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              Keenan

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          2. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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            C'mon people he slept with Jordan

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              Henderson? 😯

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              1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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                😯

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              2. Epic Fail
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                😀

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        • Count of Monte Hristo
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          Score prediction for Real v Dortmund?

          3-2 Madrid

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          1. SuperOsçarBaby
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            4-1 Real

            penalty

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        • Van Dal
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          you guys reckon rafael will play all remaining games?

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          1. Lateriser 12
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            I wouldn't bet on it

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          2. Count of Monte Hristo
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            Most of them probably. I sold for Vertonghen this week.

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          3. Messi & fabregas
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            i think after chelsea he wont feature again, smalling hasnt played in a while

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          4. Epic Fail
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            Nah. I got rid just incase.

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          5. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            good chance he misses one game

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          6. Van Dal
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            thought the same myself. will get rid of him instead of bainsy boy then

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        • Lateriser 12
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          So we're all buying Vertonghen.

          Cue 21 pts from Walker.

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          1. Count of Monte Hristo
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            GW25 the last time he did anything so yeah big score coming up.

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          2. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            you spelt Dawson wrong

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          3. SuperOsçarBaby
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            all spurs defence is not worth, just expecting big points against Southampton.

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          4. Eboue
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            The poor man's vert. In response to your earlier post, whittingham

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        • Hitman MHK
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          Now that I've made a profit of Sturridge, reasonable to trade to Benteke to catch another profit yeah? (on wildcard)

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          1. Epic Fail
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            Playing for profit at the end of the season? 😯

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            1. Hitman MHK
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              Nothing wrong with giving the team value a friendly bump! 😉

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        • Lateriser 12
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          One player you will definitely not have in your team GW1. Someone who is still a reasonable fantasy asset.

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          1. isacki: full casual
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            Carrick

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            1. isacki: full casual
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              Jokes, Lampard.

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          2. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            RVP

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            1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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              ^this

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          3. Epic Fail
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            Benteke. Presuming he will be given a heavyweight price.

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          4. SuperOsçarBaby
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            That Guy .............. Demel

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          5. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            Michu

            Either gonna be too pricey, or classed as a forward

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            1. Tmel
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              +1

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            2. isacki: full casual
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              If you still had your Alex Morgan grav I could say I'd hit that

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          6. McNulty
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            Fellaini or Michu, probably both 9m strikers...

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            1. Epic Fail
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              I doubt Afro will be a striker. Michu maybe.

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              1. McNulty
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                Maybe his end of reason run at DM will save him. Both have been up front all season really.

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          7. Dr Dream
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            Defoe...I can see Spurs having to address this striker issue over the summer and he'll become a bit part player...again...Same with Torres at Chelsea...

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        • isacki: full casual
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          Screw you for the season FPL, I feel like getting Lennon

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        • Andrew
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          Defoe worth a punt for the double?

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            I guess but he's been unimpressive a lot this season

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            1. Andrew
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              Kone a better punt?

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              1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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                yeah imo

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        • Feanor
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          If Hazard goes up I own';t be able to so a straight swap of Fellaini for him. Curse all the people who already sold Afroman.

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        • JK - Cønt ⭐
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          I have suddenly remembered I have a history with Spurs DGWs

          BAE for the first one last season
          VdV (c) GW36 last year

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          1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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            you will fail miserably this time

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            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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              😆

              probably

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        • Gargamel
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          Great Talking Point.

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          1. Epic Fail
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            Should/could have been it's own Opinion article.

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          2. Lateriser 12
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            Yap yap yap.

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          3. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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            Nice ideas on how to improve the assist system too. They had to give Bale assist due to the rules but rules need changing if that's an assist.

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          4. Goaldigger
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            Would make the game more fair and less fun. Don't know what's more important.

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        • JT's Dog
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            only 4 weeks ago i had bale, sturridge, benteke and lampard in my team. Now i only have bale.
            even i would sack me as manager

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          • KakiBangku
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            Why would anyone want this new way of determining assist?
            Its just going to create more dispute and heartaches.

            Although the current assist system may sometimes award assists that are "bogus", at least it 100% executable and you know what to expect everytime.

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            1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
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              yep, silly people arguing as if fantasy football needs to be a purist game again...no need. Points = good

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            2. Epic Fail
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              Yeah I see little wrong with how it is now.

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            3. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
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              Good point

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            4. isacki: full casual
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              I cannot understand why anyone would want a more subjective system unless they were trying to provoke a discussion.

              😉

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              1. Epic Fail
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                The plot thickens 😉

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                  • 16 Years
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                  ... so does the shark-infested custard ... 😉

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              2. Mark
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                • 19 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                Like I say above, I just think these "Quincy" moments where one guy or guys have to examine footage from all angles just opens the assist rule up to controversy. I would prefer to go with Opta and let them be the judge.

                To be honest, I'm quite surprised that the reaction so far sides with the existing system - I think some of the assists that get awarded are sometimes bordering on ridiculous - yes, it's great for scoring more points but it just jars with me. I much prefer the Opta definition but, then, this would make for a duller game if a game with fewer points is just that.

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                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Well said. It won't be a duller game. What is needed is clarity, is all.

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                  1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 11 months ago

                    it will be duller Doos. It restricts things to real OPTA assists which are really strict. FPL is just a bloody fun game with points, don't take away the points! It's not OPTA, it's fantasy! let's stick to making it more fun

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                2. isacki: full casual
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Yeah naturally grown men arguing over pixels in shaky footage is ridiculous and sometimes the last touch doesn't contribute much to the goal.

                  I just think the number of contentious incidents is far smaller with the last touch system than a 'significant touch' system. I can imagine given the 20-30 goals scored every weekend there will be a couple of debates every gameweek.

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                  1. isacki: full casual
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 11 months ago

                    We can count on one hand the number of 'last touch' debates this season, I think.

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            5. Pasqualinho
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 11 months ago

              I'm inclined to agree. 'Dodgy' assists will continue whatever system we have - but the 'last touch' rule removes all subjectivity.

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            6. KakiBangku
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 11 months ago

              Imagine if this weeks Bale incident happened under the subjective system... All hell would break loose, regardleas which way the decision went.

              Under the current system, i see the non-Bale owners sumbitted to the anomaly and simply accpet it as a freak incident.

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              1. Mark
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 19 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                As I mention above though...under a subjective system, would there really be an argument - can anyone really argue that, even it he touched it, the touch was significant enough to have contributed to the goal?

                Opta gave no assist. Decision made. Even as a Bale owner and captainer, I'd have struggled to argue I should have got an assist from it.

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                1. Pasqualinho
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  OPTA gave no assist? That would be wrong too - in my opinion Huddlestone 'created' the goal so,under a subjective system, should be credited with it.

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                2. KakiBangku
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  I would imagine alot of people still argue even the slightest touch may contribute to the goal. Butterfly effect and all..

                  Though I suppose if we just anchor all assists decision under OPTAs official data then there really isnt anything to argue. But there will be arguments!

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                  1. Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 11 months ago

                    the thing is though, FPL have done it perfectly by allowing the last man to touch it get assists. They have found a way to reward more points to attacking players.

                    even if they are contentious, they go by the rules....it makes it so much more fun to allow for points to be scored this way. They have made a great decision doing it this way and to take it away would just make it dull.

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              2. Pasqualinho
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                Not in this case. Bale took an airshot - there's no way that would be anything other than a Hudds assist if there had to be any subjective decision. But there would be many occasions where it wouldn't be as clear-cut, I agree.

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                1. Mark
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 19 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Yep, there would be more decisions to make but Opta make them week-in-week-out.

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          • Lateriser 12
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 11 months ago

            So uhm, i'm not even sure i'm going to do this but if there are others willing to join, let us

            *drumroll*

            #notcaptainbale

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            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              12 years, 11 months ago

              #captainkolarov

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            2. Eboue
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 11 months ago

              In favour of ?? Aguero?

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              1. Lateriser 12
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                No clue man. But makes things interesting. Probably Kun yeah.

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            3. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              12 years, 11 months ago

              I'll join you... with my 2nd team.

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            4. JT's Dog
                12 years, 11 months ago

                do tell

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              • Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                #carryonwithoutme

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              • Goaldigger
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                #yourfuneral

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            5. villian-ty
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 11 months ago

              Michu or Lampard for DGW?

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              1. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                Bale.

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                1. villian-ty
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Already have Bale

                  Current WC

                  HART (McCarthey)
                  DAVIES DAWSON MCAULEY (Sagna Demel)
                  MALONEY MICHU MATA BALE (Walcott)
                  AGUERO TEVEZ LUKAKU

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                  1. Epic Fail
                    • 15 Years
                    12 years, 11 months ago

                    Aye Michu then

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              2. Messi & fabregas
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                michu

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              3. Count of Monte Hristo
                • 12 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                Michu

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            6. Az
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              12 years, 11 months ago

              I've decided to play Johnson over Davies this week (Even though in my dream last night he and Hazard got sent off)

              Surely the man is due a goal... ive persevered with him through thick and thin and i have a cheeky feeling it might come against Everton. Also, everyones pretty certain that Davies minutes are going to be affected by Taylors (It was taylor right?) minutes?

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              1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                I like you thinking.

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                1. Epic Fail
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  I like him thinking too.

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                2. Count of Monte Hristo
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  As long as he is thinking you are happy 😉

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                3. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  😳

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              2. JT's Dog
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  if hazard got sent off in your dream maybe it was a warning. tee hee

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                • isacki: full casual
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  I reckon Taylor will start at least one of the remaining games given the manager's comments. Still reckon Davies will start most of them.

                  Johnson is as due as the thing I ordered on Amazon two months ago.

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                • SW6
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  I'm thinking about playing Demel over Davies.

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                • Professor Abel X
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Yes, I'm doing Davies > Vertonghen

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              3. De_Roiste
                • 14 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                Wildcard on the go.. So far, this is what I've got:

                Hart,(Robles)
                Vert, Boyce, Luiz (Demel, Clyne)
                Maloney, Mata, Hazard, Bale(c), Michu
                Tevez, Aguero (Hernandez)

                Still playing around with it. Unsure as to whether or not I will go with the two city attackers or swap for Zab/Silva. Same with the two Che mids, but who else would you go for gents?

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                1. CarelessGenius©
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Zab has been knocking on the goal's door.....he is due one.
                  I sneaked him in for a hit.

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                2. De_Roiste
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  No takers? Ok, I'll just talk to myself so!

                  Defoe is an option, but hasn't had a great run of form due to injury.

                  No guarantee that either Tevez or Aguero will play both games. Same with Hazard and Mata.

                  Kolarov would be a mighty punt. Luiz probably won't keep a cleany.

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              4. Mainevent
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                sorry this got lost on the previous post.

                Robles, Michu

                or

                Harte, Maloney

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                1. Epic Fail
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  A

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                2. Professor Abel X
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Assume you mean Joe Hart? B

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                3. Mainevent
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  ugh, its supposed to be Joe Hart not Harte

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                4. Count of Monte Hristo
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  1st one easily.

                  Harte is of no use.

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                5. Buck The Trent
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  A

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                6. Goaldigger
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Hart Maloney I reckon

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              5. izo
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                Play Walcott or RVP?

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                1. Epic Fail
                  • 15 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Wally.

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                2. Count of Monte Hristo
                  • 12 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Theodore

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                3. Goaldigger
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Rvp by miles

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                  1. Goaldigger
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 11 months ago

                    Maybe not miles, but Rvp

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                4. SuperOsçarBaby
                  • 13 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Theo Van Walcott

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              6. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                12 years, 11 months ago

                You're the Boss ... playing top team in my league ... ouch.

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              7. JT's Dog
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  the system is never going to be perfect, nobody will ever convince me that giroud should have got a goal and an assist when he didnt even touch the ball at both occasions in wk 33.
                  But dem di rules

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                  1. Count of Monte Hristo
                    • 12 Years
                    12 years, 11 months ago

                    Exactly. Decisions are wrongly made in real world football every week so it's inevitable that FF won't get it right every time.

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                • Paolo Di Laernu - low rep r…
                  • 14 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  Don't change the way the assists are done in FPL.

                  If you do, you ruin the game forever. Seriously.

                  OPTA are right and strict about assists. They have to be intentional.

                  FPL's rules are different, and they're like that for a reason = POINTS ARE GOOD

                  Make it so points are harder to score, you ruin the game completely forever.

                  Amen.

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                  1. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 11 months ago

                    Your argument is unreal, good work 😀

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                • Van Dal
                  • 16 Years
                  12 years, 11 months ago

                  is Fellaini still playing deep, even with Osman playing?

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                  1. izo
                    • 13 Years
                    12 years, 11 months ago

                    Yep.

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                  2. Buck The Trent
                    • 14 Years
                    12 years, 11 months ago

                    He filled Gibson's role last weekend, but still had couple shots inside the box

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