[sbu_large_image] The Knee Jerk
17 August 2013 1937 comments
Mark Mark
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The Knee Jerk returns in a new, digestible format. An instant response to the matches or matches of the day, offering a quick appraisal of the protagonists and dilemmas posed.

Day one, and already Fantasy managers find themselves re-addressing their “big decision”. Conveniently, a precocious talent on Merseyside may just offer a ready-made solution.

The Game Changer

It was clear that the decision on Robin Van Persie would again split Fantasy Football managers down the middle. Owned by 43% of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers, there were vast waves of support for the argument that his huge 14.0 price tag was too much of an obstacle, that value could be found elsewhere to compensate for his undoubted consistency.

That might still be the case, as Christian Benteke and Danny Welbeck demonstrated, but Van Persie’s superb brace at the Liberty this evening will have prompted early doubts.

Those without Van Persie must now decide whether to remain firm and back their initial policy or consider extensive emergency surgery to acquire him. Should Van Persie return again at home to Chelsea, then big investment could arrive over the international break ahead of the delicious Old Trafford clash with Crystal Palace in Gameweek 4.

If 14.0 looked too much this morning, we can only imagine where Van Persie will be in a few weeks if he shows that acclaimed consistency.

Van Persie really is the biggest test of the “jerky knee”.

The Underused

There was every chance that Ross Barkley would benefit from Darron Gibson’s likely absence in the Everton midfield, and so it proved.

The 19-year-old capped what was described by Roberto Martinez as an “outstanding performance” with a sweetly struck goal to hand the Toffees the advantage at Carrow Road. While that was eventually surrendered to a debut strike from Ricky van Wolfswinkel, Barkley had done more than enough to have us Fantasy Managers take notice.

Barkley is owned by less than 2% of FPL managers and yet, at just 4.5, offers obvious appeal as a fifth midfielder for those now frantically looking for a route to recruit Van Persie.

Can he retain his starting role? It’s perhaps doubtful but in Martinez he’s playing under a manager who will give young talent a stage to impress. Barkley will surely start at home to West Brom next weekend and that might just be good enough for plenty of Fantasy managers.

The Selection Poser

The absence of Robert Snodgrass in today’s Norwich lineup was a bitter blow. According to Chris Hughton, a groin problem kept him out of the reckoning and allowed new signing Nathan Redmond to sparkle. Hughton did indicate that Snodgrass’ problem is minor, having been “touch and go” for today’s clash. The Norwich boss also stated that the Scot would have started over Elliot Bennett, offering some reassurance that Redmond’s performance will not be a cause for further doubt for Snodgrass owners.

The Norwich City lineup does create further issues, however. Steven Whittaker’s strike underlines his case to retain his start at right-back, although we can surely expect Seb Bassong to earn a recall once fully fit. It remains to be seen if club captain Russell Martin will oust Whittaker at full-back, or whether Michael Turner will eventually come under threat.

Arsene Wenger would love such options. With injuries to Kieran Gibbs and Bacary Sagna, coupled with Laurent Koscielny’s dismissal, the Gunners rearguard is now in tatters. Already deprived of Thomas Vermaelen, Wenger looks set to a patched up back four to face Fulham next weekend. Those who invested in Per Mertesacker and Wojciech Szczęsny will already be considering an exit route.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. il Brutto
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    i had rvp in my team for a long time but chanced the squad a couple days ago to a non-rvp team. i did some calculations and noticed that the rvp team outscored the one i have now by 2 points. conclusion: football is a team game.

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    1. I Am ToTo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      lol you
      swaped him Soldado in the last mnt

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    2. DropPointsNotBombs
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I've had pretty much every striker who scored today in my team at one point and in the end went with 3 who haven't played yet. Hope they come out firing too

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Im happy without him while my team value is still so low. Hes not vital imo, will get him later maybe. Reckon I have more players rising in value too without him

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      1. il Brutto
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        fair point, don't think i'm getting him either. it's just too much work to get him in plus so many strikers already shown they can score big this season. only worry is that he's the only player worth having from ManU.

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  2. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Lol a this lad in the Stokie league: http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1683328/history/

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    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      lol

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    2. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      hahahaha

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    3. Ings on the up
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Lol 🙂

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    4. Declan-
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      Brilliant 😆

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    5. Mull
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      😆

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    6. Oldman Unathletic
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      Lmao. Very good.

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    7. Corrigan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      same lad who did the pig's-head-in-locker-gate-shenanigans?

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  3. GlasgowFF
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    Who are the bandwagons I should be getting on then?

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    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      kasami welbeck whittaker

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Defo.

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        1. Optimus.
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          essential 🙂

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      2. GlasgowFF
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Not getting any of them.

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        1. teej
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Don't lie. We all know you're just trying to deter us so you can have them all for yourself

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          1. GlasgowFF
            • 14 Years
            12 years, 11 months ago

            I do not waste striker spots on rotation fodder like Wellbeck.

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    2. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I think it's still Anelka and JRod

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    3. little_wizard123
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      Coleman, too. Heard his points were lucky though so it's not a sign he'll do well, plus apparently Everton defended very badly.

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      1. GlasgowFF
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Got him already

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      2. Paz12
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Nah they weren't he was involved a lot.

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        1. little_wizard123
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers, he's the easy Terry replacement.

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  4. Twelve years a slave
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    Bonus system very poor

    Only one villa player got any , Agabolawatsit was amazing

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    1. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      while Giroud was rubbish apart from the goal and schez should of been sent off

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    2. Kanus hat trick
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      Does seem odd that 2 AFC players look set to get them. Also, surely Sturridge deserved 1 at least

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    3. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I think it's much better

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        whats better about an arsenal keeper getting bonus points just because he half saved a penalty

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        1. Jairzinho
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          I remember keepers saving penalties last season and having a stormer and getting no bonus.

          Goalkeepers should definitely be rewarded highly for saving penalties. I know he conceded the rebound, but when you're doing based on statistics, it's difficult to judge that.

          Should they bring back the Bonus Point Judges of 3+ years ago?

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          1. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 11 months ago

            Shouldn't get any plus points for the save since he was the one who gave the penalty away in the first place.

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    4. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      More of a lottery, for sure. Delph and Agbonlahor were the best players but no chance of them getting baps here.

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      1. the axolotl
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        one of best games i've ever seen delph play. might finally be coming good. unlucky not to score too

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        1. Thick Of It
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Will be interesting to see the goal line technology use on that one. Just to see it in action, no way it was a goal like.

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  5. Christina.
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Imagine if i spend the 1.5m in my bank on mign/coleman rather then /marshall/toure...

    47pts

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    1. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      And THAT'S why you'll always be the bish and never the bride.

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  6. Terrible Muriel
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    So, wth happened with Rat???
    Also, were Coutinho and Mirallas any good?

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    1. Declan-
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      12 years, 11 months ago

      I didn't see the Everton game but Coutinho was impressive. I'd keep him for sure

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      1. Terrible Muriel
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        I'm keeping all of my front 7, deffo for at least 2 more weeks. But i will have to seriously downgrade one of them in order to get Persie by gw4. My defence, on the other hand is... worrying. Rat, Ivanovic, Mertesacker. Although Mert played well, Arsenal's defence looks like a MASH, right now

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    2. Fantasy Football Friend!
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Coutinho was frightening (as a non owner), he could have had 3 assists if finishing was better, didn't watch Mirallas.

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    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Coutinho had an excellent first half and could have scored a couple in the second half. Haven't seen the Everton game.

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    4. bdwhite91
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Coutinho was great, I didn't see Mirallas play.

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      1. pieces
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Mirallas was average, no great excitement for me

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  7. B.P.R.D.
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Has there been word on why some of the match info has gone through in the members area but not others?

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  8. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Just woke up from a nap, are we all WC'ing to bring in RvP? Deja vu from last year for me 😀

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    1. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      lol no way , Welbeck maybe

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Should have gone with the masses and gotten Coleman myself, now just waiting to see if Dzeko can rip it up 🙂

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    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      are you im tempted? 🙂

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      1. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        That's what I did last year - didn't have him GW1 for the DGW (had Torres, Tevez, Bent) and WC in GW2 to bring him in 🙂 I am VERY tempted.

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        1. Optimus.
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          i will if you will? 😉

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    3. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      we both an about the same points yet again , quite a few selection differences

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    1. Fantasy Football Friend!
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      😆

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    2. Thick Of It
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Ross is 2nd on my bench, but was never going to play him over haz/walcott/chadli and cout. Good call though OS. I do worry about his gametime once Gibson is back.

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        I chose dembele instead and downgraded one of my defenders...

        🙁

        U never know it may turn out alright

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        1. Thick Of It
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          I think even if he doesn't start he will be subbed on a lot. 1 pts is still better than nowt if a "bigger" player does not start. Then again if Fellaini goes who knows?

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  9. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    early days but

    shall i save my FT for next gw?

    Ming

    Toure , Cheaster , Terry

    Mirallas , Lamp , Haz , Wally

    Giroud , Soldado , Sturridge

    subs: Kosh , Turrner , Williams

    orginal plan was Lam-HBA but i might wanna have him against UTD and hoping for pen

    think i will stick with Kosh if he gets only 1 game suspention cause he will be bonus magnet

    it's only gw1 and i dont wanna waste transfers

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    1. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      JT to Coleman

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      keep kos.. maybe swap terry for collins/reid/coleman..

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    3. JT's Dog
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Do you really want to keep 3 Chelsea in team just to save transfer?

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    4. Mull
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      You'll be wanting rid of Lampard after he gets 2 points.

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    5. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      It's Lampard, you don't need to hope for a pen. He'll score a screamer from open play 😉

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      1. Thick Of It
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Or tap in from 2 yards. Right place, right time with Frank.

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  10. r0nh
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Coleman is the highest at the moment, at 16%

    RVP is not even 5% yet.

    Noone will rise tonight.

    You lot are worse that women for panic buying!!

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    1. Fantasy Football Friend!
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Those buying tonight are trying to ruin it for the rest of us 🙁

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      1. r0nh
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        I will wait until my transfer targets are on 90% before cracking

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    2. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      They'd be a lot less if people on here didn't panic buy!

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    3. Thick Of It
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Yes, down with women!

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    4. James87
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I'm looking at the Total FPL, how can you tell if a player will rise in price? Is it when a player hits 50%?

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        100

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      2. Jimmers
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        No - 100%

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        1. James87
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks guys!

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      3. r0nh
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        100%

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    5. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Craig noone? Strange that he'll rise considering malky didn't even pick him today..

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  11. Scottys Army
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Looking at his goals and assist record in spain

    navas appears shockingly overpriced at 9 mil imo

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Agree. Surprised at his % owned

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    2. Fantasy Football Friend!
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      He didn't score a league goal last season, right?

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      1. Scottys Army
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        yes very odd

        last season 0 goals 6 assists

        season before 5 goals 14 assists

        same number of games

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  12. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Shawcross benched Whittaker and had Kos 😆

    http://fantasy.premierleague.com/entry/1306074/event-history/1/

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    1. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I wonder if Adam wanted the penalty and Walters thought about his FPL side and told him no.

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    2. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Nearly all of them had Liverpool defenders. Quite a few doubled up too 🙂

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  13. zimba
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    what's up with Puncheon?

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  14. Optimus.
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    well Lambert pi$$ed on the Jrod wagon..you pay the extra 1.5 for a reason 🙂

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Yep I think we all over-analysed that one 🙂

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    2. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Said it all along.
      JRod seemed invisible and not even central as I said.

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    3. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      😎

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    4. Kanus hat trick
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Welbeck is a better option than RVP too 😆

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    5. Hibbo
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah stats such as changes in KPI can be analysed whatever way someone chooses to present them. Lambert: on pens, in the England squad, scored how many in the league last year? Vs. JRod lol no contest

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  15. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Holding on to my one Chesney bap and telling myself it will all be OK.

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    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Where do you see the boners?

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      1. Sánchez
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Different sort of site Christina

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        1. Saint Domingo
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Hahaha

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        2. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Vy(ag)dra->Bony

          With FT

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  16. Declan-
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    12 years, 11 months ago

    Walters had GJ on his team. That explains a lot 🙂

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  17. Oldman Unathletic
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    I have a feeling this Stoke FPL league is going to gain mythical status.

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    1. pieces
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      It will be deleted soon I reckon.

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  18. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    is bonus out

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  19. Konig Luther
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    one thing is not having RVP
    other thing is having on bench

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-1sCO88T9hWw/ULo5Wq1VHgI/AAAAAAAADl8/6p5TizW_VDM/s1600/aliens.gif

    look at this:

    http://i.imgur.com/NN5InT0.gif

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    1. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      HAHAHAHAHAHA

      Worst thing I have seen in FPL.

      THIRD SUB?

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    2. Ings on the up
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Oh dear...

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  20. JT's Dog
    12 years, 11 months ago

    So I let women into mini league and one of em goes and takes the lead with players she likes the name of. Muirfield golf club have right attitude

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    1. Mull
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      😀

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    2. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Even a broken clock gets the time right twice a day

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      1. JT's Dog
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Not if the broken bit is the hands

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  21. Heydudes13
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    42 points BOOM!

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      got much left in the tank?

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      1. Heydudes13
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Hazard (C) Lampard Dzeko Luiz

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  22. Jimmers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BR5W20_CUAA_--y.jpg:large

    A simple message

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    1. r0nh
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      He looks like he works in Harrods 😆

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  23. Hazardous
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Mark Hughes should be sacked for keeping walters on penalty duty hes fricking awful at them

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    1. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Mark Hughes should never have been employed by Stoke, after his QPR shambles.

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    2. JT's Dog
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Isn't that Hughes plan when he takes over club

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  24. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    can't belive that Sturridge wont get any bps

    but i quite like this bps , at least we can track it live

    gutted that Toure didnt score that header

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    1. Mull
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Can't believe you're only on 36 after the start you had.

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    2. Saint Domingo
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      The way you can track the Baps live is great,i like it too

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    3. Oldman Unathletic
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Its excellent isn't it. At least the system is a little more transparent.

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    4. bozo614
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      How do you track it live? Thanks!!

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  25. GlasgowFF
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    How pish were Swansea. Had planned on getting Bony in but not anymore.

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    1. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      They were pretty good actually.

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      1. GlasgowFF
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        eh?

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    2. Thick Of It
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Very unlucky to lose by that amount. They will batter some teams.

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  26. tm245
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Most eagerly anticipated performance of tomorrow?

    Lampard for me.

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    1. GlasgowFF
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      10 minutes of Lamps?

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      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Hence the eager anticipation!

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    2. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Hazard

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    3. SW6
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Yep. Got Hazard(c) and Lukaku but so do lots of others. Lamps is a nice differential

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    4. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Lukakaukaaukakaukauakau

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    5. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Soldado. I need him to make me believe that it is right to go without Rvp 🙂

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      1. GlasgowFF
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Me too. I think he will.

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      2. tm245
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Hey there! I've been posting this in a few threads here, but I really think it's not win-lose. Took a look at a screenshot of a Eureka, RVP! draft from Thursday and besides Coleman instead of Zabaleta it would have been around the same overall pts.

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    6. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Hazard (c) for me.

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    7. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      IVANOVICCCCCCCCCCCC

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    8. Fantasy Football Friend!
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Lukaku, if he goes crazy i might keep him through the blank.

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  27. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Ladies and Gentleman, how are we all?

    I have an apology to make, as a Villa contributor.

    I was very critical of managers selecting Baker, expecting both Clarke and Okore (when fit) to take precedent at centre back and Luna and Bennett at LB. The fact he only got 17 minutes is beside the point, I got that wrong.

    Im my defence, i did put forward an equally strong case for the Benteking and Luna as a good option for attacking points from the back.

    Hope everyone had a terrific first FPL day of the season!

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    1. Hazardous
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      no need to apologise people on this site said collins was not going to play and rat was nailed (whcih didnt happen and cost me 6 points) not everyone knows what the manager thinking

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        cheers Haz!

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    2. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      It was good. Very happy with my 36 and 8 to play including captain 😎 And Benteke was always going to be a great option. Great result for you guys. Possible top half finish

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks Declan,

        Delighted with the result. Felt top half was possible going into the season but after today i think its probable. Just have to keep the main players fit, and Benteke is crucial.

        Nice score, Ive got a 51 side with effectively 9 to play including the double captaincy. fingers crossed for a big chelsea win vs Hull, never got to a 100pt week.

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    3. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Yes i read that , would of been daft to get Baker anyway with a blank coming up

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    4. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      luna reminded me of jordi alba with that goal

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      1. little_wizard123
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Proper Spanish defender's finish. Tricked him with the eyes too. Drool.

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      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Love it. great game too, aside from the poor refereeing.

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    5. little_wizard123
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 11 months ago

      We have a few of us who represent Villa on this site so we're well covered. I'm not a Baker fan myself but it wasn't nailed on that he'd start so it's fair enough to say what you did.

      The fact that Clark came on over Okore when Baker got injured shows he's not match fit, so this definitely is not a sign that Baker is favoured.

      Also, imo Vlaar could be in trouble. A few fans think he shouldn't be in the team, and he cocked up today with the goal and should've been sent off.

      Okore and Vlaar for me though, all day.

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Very excited about the Okore Beast. High hopes nailed to him.

        I like Bakers enthusiasm, and he must have sliding tackles 20 on champ manager, but I see Clarke as a more intelligent defender and Vlaar has that experience we lack.

        I'd see it (optimistically) as: Okore, Vlaar, Clarke, Baker once all are fit and settled.

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      2. pieces
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Shees that over-commit on Rosicky for the 1st goal was u14 f team stuff - shocker. If Kos was sent then he should defintely have gone. The officiating was terrible! The yellow for the Villa player in the Oxlade-Chamberlain injury was woeful

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  28. LOCO ABREU
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    baps

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  29. bdwhite91
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Woo 22 points after a Koscielny fail 🙂

    Looking forward to my 3 chelsea players and Soldado tomorrow. Fingers crossed.

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