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13 September 2013 1851 comments
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We had Matija Nastasic and Olivier Giroud to thank for bringing home the points last time out, with a last-minute injury to Sunderland’s Craig Gardner disrupting our plans. With plenty of new arrivals added to the PlayON price list, we get scouting in search of bargains once again.

If you’re new to PlayON, read this season’s introduction article for more information. If you’re already a seasoned player, read on for our selection of early weekend targets…

Gameweek 4 Picks

Goalkeeper – Brad Guzan
Coming in at just 7.3m in this week’s PlayON price list, the Villa stopper is the second cheapest guaranteed starter between the sticks this weekend. While Sunderland’s Kieran Westwood, at 6.8m, is a little kinder on the budget, the Black Cats’ home clash against Arsenal hardly breeds confidence – Guzan, on the other hand, entertains a Newcastle side with a single goal to their name thus far. Team news from this afternoon’s press conferences could also affect our thinking here – if Hull’s Allan McGregor fails to recover from a groin problem, Steve Harper (7.0m) is an option ahead of a home clash with Cardiff, while Fulham’s David Stockdale, at 7.8m, could come into contention if first-choice stopper Maarten Stekelenburg remains sidelined with a back problem – the Cottagers play host to West Brom; the only side yet to notch in the top-flight this term.

Defender –Chris Smalling
With Phil Jones a doubt and Rafael still battling back from a hamstring problem, the former Fulham man could be poised to take up the right-back berth at home to Palace tomorrow lunchtime. Although Smalling isn’t 100% to start, Fantasy managers can take advantage of the PlayON deadline at 12.35 tomorrow and wait till the Old Trafford team news is rolled out – indeed, with Rafael also priced at 7.2m and Jonny Evans 7.4m, there could be potential bargains on offer if David Moyes looks to freshen up his defence with the Champions League in mind.

Midfielder – Adel Taarabt
Priced at a mere 6.6m, Fulham’s maverick Moroccan is expected to return to the starting XI in time for tomorrow’s visit of West Brom. With Ben Foster still sidelined for the visitors and a batch of deadline-day acquisitions yet to gel, Martin Jol’s side will fancy their chances to pick up the points – Taarabt’s eye for goal could well prove the undoing of the out-of-sorts midlanders, with points for shots on target also likely to boost his tally. Once again, keeping an eye on the team sheets at Old Trafford could prove decisive – Nani is also priced at 6.6m and has the potential to be a real bargain option this weekend against Palace. It would be remiss of us not to point out Tottenham’s record signing Erik Lamela at 6.2m, though Andre Villas-Boas’ press conference comments hinted that the Argentine may have to settle for a place on the bench after his midweek international exertions.

Forward – Olivier Giroud
We’re keeping faith in the Arsenal man ahead of the trip to Sunderland. Despite scoring in all three of his matches so far, Giroud can still be acquired for 11.5m in PlayON and, with Mesut Ozil on board to supply the killer passes, could have a field day against a Black Cats side devoid of the services of suspended skipper John O’Shea. With enough money saved in midfield by snapping up Taarabt and Nani, Giroud looks the ideal partner for Robin Van Persie, though the Dutchman is a little pricier at 12.4m – the second most expensive option in the game.

How To Play

PlayON is weekly fantasy football so you can dip in and out of playing throughout the season. Once your starting XI is built (you can change your team as many times as you like before the Live Matchday kicks-off – 12.35 tomorrow) you can compete for cash. Entering a multiplayer game for a set stake, you’ll have a chance of winning your share of the pot should you finish high enough in the rankings.

Similarly, you can challenge other players to one-on-one games, selecting the amount at stake. The likes of Robbie Fowler, Les Ferdinand and Opta Joe are all playing the game and are there to be challenged for free or for £1. The Fantasy Football Scout team is also available to be challenged and has a 66% win rate so far!

£5000 Guaranteed Prize Pot

PlayON are set to boost the prize pot for their “£1000 Guaranteed” multiplayer game if they get 500 entrants by 5pm today. You only need to register a provisional team of XI and enter the game by 5pm – your lineup can be tweaked right up to 12.35 tomorrow. The game has a £5 entry fee so enter your team and spread the word before 5pm!

The Fantasy Football Scout Game

We’ve also got a £2 multiplayer game, dedicated to our community, which is now open and the prize pot is building.

Challenge Your Mates

You can also set up your own multiplayer games with your mates to play for free bragging rights or for cash. Create your own game at www.playon.co.uk.

Finally, a reminder that we have published a strategy guide, offering some tips for getting the most from your PlayON lineup, right here.

You have to be over 18 to enter cash games at PlayON. If you do wager some cash, please remember to gamble responsibly. PlayON is licensed and regulated by the UK Gambling Commission.

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  1. Az
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    Grrr why is Kompany nearing a return, my Lescott punt just hasnt worked out too well so far! Lets hope I can give him a decent send off when he scores tomorrow.

    Who do you guys reckon will score more points in the long run - Kompany or Zabaleta?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Zabaleta unless Kolarov gets a good run.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        One game is an amazing run for Kolarov. Just think what he might do, massive risk not owning him. Even bigger risk not captaining him.

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        1. SW6
          • 13 Years
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          😀

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        2. TorresMagic™
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          Good point. Worth a hit.

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    2. Dr Dream
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      Not much in it but i can tell you the one who will be marginally more nailed on...Kompany..

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  2. plantylfc
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    who should i replace silva with ? already have walcott coutinho an barfa

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    1. Sess!
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      Ozil

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      1. Sess!
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        If haven't got the funds then Michu I reckon. Palace away next week.

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    2. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
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      Still Sessegnon...

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  3. EoinM
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    Giroud or Benteke?? Cheers lads.

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    1. Sess!
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      Benteke this week, Giroud thereafter.

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      1. EoinM
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        Haha well Im planning WC Gw 8 so which one would you go for?

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    2. SilkySkills
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      Giroud

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  4. The Machine
    • 12 Years
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    Tempted to keep Zabaleta now with the Kompany news

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Get off the bandwagon....

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
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        ?

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        1. TorresMagic™
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          • 16 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Go into your history, Coleman and Zabaleta.

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  5. JJO
    • 13 Years
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    I was going to transfer out Silva anyway so not happy that Pelle revealed that he will miss it...
    Chances of Michu falling in price tonight?

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    1. Hank Scorpio
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      Michu falling is less likely now Silva news has leaked.....people will change plans, and Michu could also be a trade IN for Silva.

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      1. Sess!
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        Hmm...this is true

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      2. Dogba
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        Good point. Good thing for my wallet.

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      3. JJO
        • 13 Years
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        Yeah Im afraid this is true

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      4. Wings Fan
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        He'll still drop imo

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        1. JJO
          • 13 Years
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          Just looked at Total and think he is gonna easily fall...was transfered out 400 times in last 20mins or 1/2 hour

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          1. Wings Fan
            • 12 Years
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            People were already transferring Silva out in their droves before he was confirmed as being out. Despite that, Michu was still dropping. Nothing has changed. People are more interested in the new signings - Ozil, Lamela, Eriksen etc

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    2. Sess!
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      Mid-High

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  6. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
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    Best 4.8 mids and below? I want to sell coleman due to his bad fixtures and upgrade my mid..

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 14 Years
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      Sorry. Best 4.8 defender.

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Baker 😀

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        1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
          • 14 Years
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          .....

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        2. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
          • 14 Years
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          That punt actually worked. except he got injured...16 minutes into the match

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      2. Sess!
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        I think wilson is being overlooked. Bad next two games but nice run of home games after and playing OOP.

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        1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
          • 14 Years
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          Need someone for two matches...

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  7. Hank Scorpio
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    Hey,

    A - JWP & Nani

    Or

    B Brady & HBA

    Leaning towards A.

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 14 Years
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      A.

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      1. George Agdgdgwngo
        • 16 Years
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        B

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  8. cruyff81
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Have added Marko Arnautovic to my watch list,was looking at clips of him on Youtube,he
    seems a bit of set piece taker so with Stokes big men he could be one to keep an eye on

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    1. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      People thought the same with Charlie Adam.. not saying he's a bad pick though.
      I'd definitely wait and see though, Steven Ireland also new at Stoke.
      I'd go safe with Brady, Kim, JWP(?), Redmond

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      1. cruyff81
        • 16 Years
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        Ya getting in Brady this week for Snodgrass,going to wait and see how this lad fares out.

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    2. Wings Fan
      • 12 Years
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      Add to that the fact he's 6 foot 4, quick for his size, and could play OOP as the lone striker, and he's definitely on my watchlist.

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  9. No Pirlo No Party
    • 16 Years
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    Silva injury has really changed my plans this GW. Was going to keep my FT.

    Silva + Dzeko to Nolan + Soldado? Thoughts? (-4pts)

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    1. OptimusBlack
      • 12 Years
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      U mean silva will not play this GW

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    2. Professor Abel X
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      • 13 Years
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      Exactly the same issue here. I wouldn't go for Nolan but could work

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      1. Professor Abel X
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
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        Benteke and Lamps I'm looking at

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  10. onionbarje
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Coutinho vs Lamela

    who should i choose and why

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    1. Hank Scorpio
      • 14 Years
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      Cout for now - nailed on, and settled.

      Monitor Lamela.

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      1. The Happy One
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        agree 100% with this ^

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      2. onionbarje
        • 14 Years
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        very true i want to go with Lamela but i don't know how he will do in the BPL

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    2. Dogba
      • 13 Years
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      Coutinho or Michu all day.

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  11. Billy Gilmore
    • 13 Years
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    Brayford –> Kolarov (-4)

    What could possibly go wrong? 🙂

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
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      Absolutely nothing, that is risk free.

      Brayford out - saves a lot of hassle
      Kolarov in - everyone loves you

      Get to make a defencive move without wasting a transfer.

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Can't think of anything 😉

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    3. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Im considering him on my WC.

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    4. Mr F Gallagher
      • 14 Years
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      Gael Clichy

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
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        He's injured.

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  12. plantylfc
    • 12 Years
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    i have got the funds for ozil just not sure if hel deffo start ?

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    1. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      He will start, no doubt

      May not complete the game tough

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    2. Mr F Gallagher
      • 14 Years
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      Stick with Walcoot if you have him.

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    3. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      He'll start. Not even a fraction of doubt now that Rosicky's out.

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    4. Gimli son of Gloin
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      He'll score points this weekend.

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      1. muggaz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        yeah 2.

        He'll start, and Arsenal fans will act like they won the PL when he touches the ball for the first time, and that my friends, will be the pinnacle of the Gunners season.

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  13. The Happy One
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Seems like everyone's in this situation, so I will pose the big question: Silva out for who? Free up some space and go someone like HBA or Hernandez or gamble on one of the other 9-9.5 mids performing? (In my case I've already got Wally and Coutinho) 🙂

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    1. Dogba
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Michu or Hernandez look decent.

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  14. cruzex
    • 13 Years
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    Kolo toure will start???

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
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      Nope, but kolarov will

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      1. cruzex
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        kolarov?? wtf

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    2. EoinM
      • 14 Years
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      Think so.

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  15. Sánchez
    • 13 Years
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    Will we get Liverpool team news today or is that unlikely for a monday game?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Presser is this arvo I believe. Will probably be pretty vague though.

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    2. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
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      Today

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      1. EoinM
        • 14 Years
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        2.30 sir.

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    3. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Cheers both

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  16. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
    • 13 Years
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    A) Bent -> Giroud NO HIT
    B) Bent, Silva -> Giroud and Paulinho
    C) Bent, Silva -> Giroud and other 7.1 (HBA, Moses?)

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    1. Sess!
      • 15 Years
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      A) Just bench Silva this week.

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      1. EoinM
        • 14 Years
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        A

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    2. Hank Scorpio
      • 14 Years
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      A.

      Not sure HBA or Paulinho is worth a hit, not a fantastic chance of getting the -4 back, essentially they would NEED to score to break even as the Silva sub replacement would get at least 2 I would assume.

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    3. roscola
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Scout Tweets say Silva is a doubt for GW5 too. That settles it for me - Silva OUT.

      C) with HBA

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    4. Corkyote FFS CWC Champion 2…
      • 13 Years
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      Cheers all

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  17. SilkySkills
    • 12 Years
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    A lot of people seem to be picking players that might not even start

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  18. Hank Scorpio
    • 14 Years
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    Wo ist der ticker?

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    1. thetinkerman
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      • 14 Years
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      Nur auf Englisch bitte.

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    2. thetinkerman
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      • 14 Years
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      I can see it...

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      1. Hank Scorpio
        • 14 Years
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        The 6 game ticker is missing for me - the text is there, but nothing to click to view.

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    3. onionbarje
      • 14 Years
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      right hand side

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  19. thetinkerman
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    • 14 Years
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    Any chance of a cheeky RMT?

    Mig

    Zab Kosc Shaw

    Wally (c) Nolan Silva Mirallas

    Soldado (vc) Lambert Studge

    (Chester, Kim, M Turner)

    1FT, 1.7m in the bank

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      No kolarov. -1/10

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    2. Professor Abel X
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      • 13 Years
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      Silva is out

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      1. thetinkerman
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        • 14 Years
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        Damn. Just came on. It's likely to be for just this game though, right? Might just let Chester come off the bench

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        1. Professor Abel X
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          • 13 Years
          12 years, 5 months ago

          Might be worth it. I have Wanyama or M Turner off the bench which doesn't look promising. Needed Silva to play!

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    3. Mílanista
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      • 14 Years
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      Silva is confirmed out - Lampard/Ozil in.

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    4. Reckoner.
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Solid although with the Silva news I would be looking to replace. Personally going to get Michu in after he has hopefully dropped.

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    5. Dogba
      • 13 Years
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      I'd do Silva -> Coutinho/Michu. Wouldn't be too worried on doubling LFC with that schedule, Suarez returning and Coutinho earmarked for the hole.

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    6. EoinM
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      I like it. Silva's out though and a doubt next week so Id transfer him to Michu/lamela.

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    7. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      No mata

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  20. Ginkapo FPL
    • 14 Years
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    What has actually happened to Clichy?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
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      Don't know. All Pellegrini said was that he was out against Stoke.

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      1. SW6
        • 13 Years
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        Somebody predicted this yesterday

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        1. Billy Gilmore
          • 13 Years
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          Who? 😯

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      2. Voodoo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 5 months ago

        Pellegrini is not the most informative is he...

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  21. applebonkers
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    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    how long would it take clicky being ruled out for you to get kolarov? ranging from 1 match (ginkapo) to 2 months or more

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    1. thetinkerman
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      • 14 Years
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      if he were to get 4 or more games, I'd strongly consider it.

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    2. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
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      About 6-7 weeks for me

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
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      To be honest, i'd take a guarenteed sub appearance.

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      1. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
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        I got all of his points bar 20 last year..... 🙁

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      2. applebonkers
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        • 16 Years
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        😆

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    4. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
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      Probably about a month. Depending on fixtures/whether it's near a likely WC/Jan.

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    5. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      on wc. AB. Since I'm on wc I'm getting him in, then selling next week for Mertesacker

      It would be rude not to.

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  22. Obi Wan Elokobi
    • 14 Years
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    Well that Silva news isn't good. It's likely Barkley won't play now so I'm going to have to play Chester. Stupid Van Persie price :p

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    1. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
      • 14 Years
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      I think Bark will be a regular.

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    2. roscola
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      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Why won't Barkley play? Martinez said Gibson won't be ready for this week

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  23. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    • 14 Years
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    Need some assitance guys. Im finishing up my WC team.

    Should i sell coleman due to fixtures and upgrade my mid?

    Looking at a defender for 4.8 and below.

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  24. SW6
    • 13 Years
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    If you're on your WC, there's really no reason you shouldn't own Kolarov now. Plus with Silva out he'll be on more set-pieces.

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    1. SuperOsçarBaby
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      wo will replace Silva? nasri?

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      1. SW6
        • 13 Years
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        Nasri probably, possibly Milner

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  25. SuperOsçarBaby
    • 13 Years
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    Boyata bandwagon

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
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      Huh?

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    2. LOCO ABREU
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      why?

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  26. Hay Number 2
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    I have 1.4 to improve the following, any ideas?

    Boruc Mig
    Vidic Ivan Coleman Chester Turner
    Ozil Lamps HBA Hernandez Brady
    Soldado Giroud Sturrdige

    I am on a wc too.

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  27. Professor Abel X
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    All this Lamela and Eriksen love. What about Chadli?

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    1. Dukes of Hazard
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Have you watched his 3 first games? Awful so far. No form, not settled in etc.. He may come forward in a few weeks time but not right now.

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      1. Professor Abel X
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
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        Unfortunately i haven't seen much prem action yet this season, thanks

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    2. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
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      He's rubbish from what little I've seen.

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    3. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
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      use the ridiculous stigma to your advantage. opinion of AVB is all that matters

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  28. Voodoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    Now that David Silva is confirmed out for one, maybe two weeks: Which is the best transfer:

    Dzeko to Lambert/Bent OR
    Silva to Eriksen/Coutinho

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    1. Dogba
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Dzeko will play some part IMO, he can do damage from the bench. I'd do Silva -> Coutinho.

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  29. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
    • 15 Years
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    Lads need some help on this one please!

    Nolan and Vidic

    Or

    Lampard and Mertesacker

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    1. EoinM
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      B Imo

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    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
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      Nolan & Vidic for me...

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    3. cruyff81
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      What about Nolan and Mert?

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  30. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 5 months ago

    £0.1m away from being able to afford my wildcard... and Michu is dropping tonight!!!! 🙂

    Mignolet
    Terry/Vidic/Walker
    Theo/Nani/Nolan/Michu
    Benteke/Giroud/Soldado
    (Given/Chester/Whittaker/JWP)

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    1. cruzex
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      where is rvp»?

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    2. muggaz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 5 months ago

      Michu wont drop now that Silva is injured. who do you think will be getting all the transfers in?

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