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27 October 2013 759 comments
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Sunday boasts four matches and a glittering array of Fantasy talent to hold our interest over the next few hours. The match-ups on offer look more than a little tasty – none more so than the Wear-Tyne derby at the Stadium of Light which kicks things off.

Gus Poyet is handed a baptism of fire in the North East as he takes on Alan Pardew’s Magpies having suffered the indignity of a 4-0 mauling at Swansea last weekend. Newcastle, meanwhile, make the short trip to their rivals in the midst of a mini revival having earned a point with 10-men against Liverpool.

This is followed up by a lip-smacking Stamford Bridge clash between two genuine title contenders as Chelsea host City at 4pm. Alongside that, Swansea entertain West Ham and Spurs take on Hull City at the Lane. Given that menu, we’re expecting goals and a flood of Fantasy points to follow on from Saturday’s rather satisfactory tallies.

The team news from the early kick-off finds Poyet make no less than four changes to the Black Cats lineup that was routed at the Liberty Stadium. Former Liverpool full-back Andrea Dossena is given his Sunderland debut at the back, where Carlos Cuellar also replaces Valentin Roberge. In midfield, Jack Colback comes in for Craig Gardner, while Jozy Altidore returns as Emanuele Giaccherini, rather surprisingly, drops to the bench. It looks like a conventional 4-4-2 from Sunderland, then.

Alan Pardew makes just one change to the Magpies starting XI which faced Liverpool last time out. Paul Dummett is handed his full Premier League debut at centre-back, as he fills the void left by the injured Fabricio Coloccini and Steven Taylor, with Mapou Yanga-Mbiwa suspended. It’s another fluid 4-3-3 from Newcastle then, with Hatem Ben Arfa again appearing to be handed the central attacking role.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open and will accompany all your joys and woes throughout today’s matches.

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  1. SPorting
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    OK, depending on what happens in today's games (injuries etc), my WC looks like this:

    Boruc, Vorm
    Terry, Toure, Dawson, Clyne, Murner
    Hazard, Michu, Ramsey, Brady, Morrison
    Suarez, Aguero, Lukaku.

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    1. FACUPARSE
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Murner and norwich are cak, there are probably better options

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      1. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Look at the fixtures after MCI though:

        WHU, new, CRY

        Got to be a CS in there somewhere.

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        1. tm245
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          ^^ This - 7 pts yesterday as well as the nice price. They rotate amazingly with Stoke, but then you would have to own a Stoke player.

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      2. Zep
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Nonsense.. they have the best run of fixtures all the way through to Jan WC...

        6 great home games, 4/5 playable away games, only 1 tough home game v Utd, and 2/3 tough away games where he can be easily benched...

        I think you need to look at the ticker a bit more...

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    2. tm245
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Nice front line. Why Vorm -- could Davis give you some extra money for defense?

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      1. SPorting
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Could do but Vorm is a nice way to the SWA defence and gives me another option when the SOU luck runs out.

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          You could do vidic and soldado to nasty and suarez for -4 and keep your w/c. Then just work out what to do after that, Keep the w/c for all the doubles later in the year.

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        2. FantaCity
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          So how about stick with Vorm + a 4.0 keeper. Soton fixtures get tough, you already have Clyne, and when the Swans fixtures get worse, we're already nearly at the Jan WC

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    3. Chrissy Waddle - 2025/26
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      No Benteke with his fixtures..? Great differential too.

      I would think about putting Silva in and replacing Kun with Tekkers.

      Also prefer Kompany over Dawson and GJohnson over Toure.

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    4. The Shadow
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Looks much better with Suarez. If Williams comes back for Swansea I might want him over Toure.

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    5. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Prefer Benteke to Lukaku and would not keep Michu if he blanks again today IMO.

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      1. FantaCity
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        agree

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      2. TeamSteam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Swans fixtures are way too good to ditch Michu

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        1. Munsoned
          • 14 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Not if he keeps blanking.

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          1. TeamSteam
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            You`ve been warned.

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    6. get_in
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Looking good, jealous. If you've no value invested in him I'd go Ivan over Terry.

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      1. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Terry's a better option. Every time they've had a CS, he's got at least 2 bonus.

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        1. TeamSteam
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Ivan much more attacking

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        2. get_in
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Ivan will be on top at the end of the season, his goal threat is huge and his stats back it up

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    7. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Advice ranging from a -4 to a full WC with a twist.

      Cheers all!

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      1. Nice to Michu
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        why have you gone for Vorm with Boruc? Vorm can be kept as number 1 for most of the next few weeks but the week he has his hardest game, mac, Boruc is a bad replacement as he has che.

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  2. KillTheWise1
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    The big debate. Which belgian to have. Benteke or Lukaku?

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    1. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Who to cap bel or other ?

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    2. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      check their points per minute last season. end of.

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      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Not really much point, Lukaku was playing for a different team.

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    3. _Greg
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      both

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    4. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      both

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  3. ⭐ ABHISHEK - THE CURIOUS …
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Suarez (C) every week will win or Lukaku (C) ?

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    1. TeamSteam
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Best striker in the BPL for the better side, surely?

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Suarez by a long way baring a major injury.

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    3. The Shadow
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Are you tempted by the home and away rotation?

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  4. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    anyone think zab will play today?

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yes, the first choice players that are fit will start today.

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    2. SkyByBo
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Defo, why wouldnt he?

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        he didnt last gw

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        1. TeamSteam
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Rest before the away game in CL m8, he`ll play

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    3. Team Canada
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yes big game today Zab will play imo

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      1. S.Kuqi
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Hopefully not. Zab played ucl on wednesday and Richards is fit.

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    4. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I reckon hell play right back and Richards centre back

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  5. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    nervously waiting for the games, really hope augero gets injured, clears all my dilemma 🙂

    1) Who is the best city defender to get over the next couple of weeks, they look primed for cleanies...nasty? kolarav? 😀
    2) any need to remove giroud / lukaku for augero?
    3) which two def to start from dawson/burner/wilson/vidic?

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    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      2 is a similar concern for me , I'm thinking :
      Giroud /Eriksen - Aguero (c) / Brady .
      What you think ?

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      1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        why is 2 a concern..... what is wrong with scoring strikers? ok they didnt score a hatty, but you wont get that every week, what you want is consitency .... giroud and lukaku are bound to bring that.....given agueros history i wouldnt say he was going to bring this

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        1. HVT
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Fixtures and I've not seen Aguero in this form for a while.

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      2. UnitednationsXI
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        if i had ozil, i would get rid of giroud

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      1) wait for the lineup then decide. Get Kolarov if he starts today and doesn't in the league cup.
      2) No
      3) Vidic and Burner

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  6. BONZ
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Never wish an injury on a player!!
    1 nasty
    2 giroud fixture toughen
    3 dawson / wilson

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Indeed. Never.

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Wish all you want. It won't make it happen. 😉

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  7. Heels_Over_Head
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Count down to Demi time?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yes.

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  8. TeamSteam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Giroud -> Benteke looking good?

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      nope

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    2. FACUPARSE
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Take out a scoring striker for an injured striker. good move

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      1. TeamSteam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Is Benteke injured? Look at Arsenals fixtures. Theyre incredibly tough the next 2 months. I think getting rid while the getting is good would be the way to go.

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        1. FACUPARSE
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Returning from injury... Giroud can score against anyone. Think he scored against pool last season as well

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          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Tekkers can score against anyone too, has better fixtures and is a much better player and is on pens. Or at least should be... 😉

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          2. TeamSteam
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Played 90 yesterday, so he should be fine. Not really the injury prone player type. Look at Arsenals fixtures; Liv, United, Soton, Everton, City and Chelsea all in the next 8 gw`s. Sure Giroud is class and can score against all those teams, but i actually fancy Arsenal to get tested against most of those.

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            1. FACUPARSE
              • 13 Years
              12 years, 4 months ago

              I like Benteke, in fact looking at his fixtures i may swap him for Lambert

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              1. TeamSteam
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                12 years, 4 months ago

                Tekkers is a true beast

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    3. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yes for me. The idea of this game is to get the players before they score points, not after.

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      1. TeamSteam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Exactly. And Giroud, even though he scored yesterday hasn`t looked his best and the fixtures really stiffen up. And Benteke would be a good differential.

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        1. Godfather Bandit 42
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          You've talked yourself into it superbly......

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          1. TeamSteam
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            Guess i have.

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    4. Caine & Co.
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      yes

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    5. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Thats what I'm doing.
      Tekkers is better vs weak and villa better away.
      Next up 4/6 away, 6/6 decent ties.
      Tekkers all the way

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    6. Vasty Deep
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Yes, I made this move myself.

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  9. Gazza2000
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Mignolet
    Koscielny - Chico - Shaw
    Ozil - Michu - Barkley - Brady
    Lukaku - Suarez - Giroud

    Lewis - Dawson - WP - Chester, 4.8 itb

    Worth a hit to get some City or Chelsea cover ?

    a) Giroud -> Aguero
    b) Barkley -> Hazard
    c) not worth it

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  10. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Hello folks!

    Vorm
    Vidic Dawson Terry Clyne Burner
    Michu Ramsey Siggy Barkley Ravel
    RVP Suarez Gru

    What do you'll like more? 2FTs

    A) Vidic + Gru -> Aguero + 4.6
    B) Vidic + Siggy -> Haz/Oscar/Silva + 5.1

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      B)
      You need a much better midfield. Williams/Chico should be the 5.1m defender.

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    2. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      B, with Pieters.

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    3. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      A with Rat and get Hazard in for GW11?

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    4. SPorting
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      What can you get for 5.1m these days?

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    5. Zep
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      A for Awesome front 3 but I would go with B for Balance... 😉

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    6. G11gsy
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      B

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    7. GREENDREAMS11
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Rvp and Gru. >. Kun. And suarez.

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  11. The Shadow
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Yesterday while watching Giroud get blanked I checked the transfers page to see if I could do Aguro for Giroud. While I was on that page Giroud scored. Later while Lukaku was getting blanked I checked the transfer page again to see if I could do Lukaku to Benteke. While I was on that page Lukaku scored.

    Later today during the Chelsea game I'm going to check the transfer page to see about transferring out Hazard. Hazard owners can thank me when he inevitably scores.

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      cheers

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    2. tm245
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Could you check Benteke again? Need some retroactive help...

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    3. _Ninja_
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Cheers, can you check Michu and Terry's as well? 😀

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      1. _Greg
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        haha yes

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    4. _Greg
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      cheers mate, check it twice!

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  12. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Come on the Toon!

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I'd like both to get relegated, so I think the best result for me is a Sunderland win.

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  13. sy
    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Taking out Lambert for Remy this gameweek due to price changes is another master stroke of a decision by me this season

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    1. Rafabio
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Ouch

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    2. TeamSteam
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Ditching Lambert before Fulham (h) was never going to be the best of moves though

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      1. sy
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        He was benched against united and had been subbed off early in other fixtures and then osvaldo gets injured!

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        1. TeamSteam
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          The benching against United was clearly a tactical decision, and he gets subbed off quite a bit because of his age and lack of intensity towards end of games. Bad move imo, but sorry it went like that for you.

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  14. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    hmm may as well continue to give suarez the captaincy against arse .... seen nothin to tell me otherwise.......??

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    1. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      +1

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  15. KillTheWise1
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    What do people think of Migs, Giroud -> Harper, Aguero? Atm, i have 5 players in the Ars-Liv game and no obvious captain choice. But I'd hate to lose Giroud before he faces united :p

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    1. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Not a fan of this move.

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      1. KillTheWise1
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Fair enough. Any reason why?

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        1. Sánchez
          • 13 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Harper will be an issue when McGregor returns
          Do you have a 4.0 keeper already? If so, keep away from harper.

          Also, I think aguero will disappoint his owners again. Benteke will outscore him next 6 and season long for me.
          Tekkers is nailed on as they come and is a one man team. Aguero can always go quiet and city wont be too bad.

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  16. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Dummet looks a liability in a game like this.

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    1. Godfather Bandit 42
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Dummy debut?

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    2. Munsoned
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      One Geordie makes up for the 8 frogs in the team

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  17. Obi Wan Elokobi
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Just watched possibly the worst film ever the magnificent eleven I don't know why I insist on watching these types of films

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    1. Godfather Bandit 42
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      The Exorcist 2 with Richard Burton......the worst film ever!!!!!!!

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        City slickers(2) was on last night. Man what a load of sentimental crap that is.

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  18. Gaz Downright
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    • 15 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Poyet's Di Canio impersonation coming on good

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      sad, really

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  19. gers23
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Which do people prefer?

    A) Evra and Ben Arfa to Murner and Silva ( keeping Rvp)

    B) Rvp and Ben Arfa to Hazard and Aguero

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    1. stooshermadness
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      B. If Aguero stays healthy he will score in RvP's ballpark and Hazard is a vast improvement over Ben Arfa who has never been a consistent FF asset.

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    2. MesQueUnClub
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      B

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  20. rohan
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Remember when Cisse used to score goals for fun?

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    1. Nomar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Remember when Cisse used to score goals full stop?

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    2. Gaz Downright
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Brilliant assist...

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  21. OptimusBlack
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Silva blank Today , Next Match Goal and assisst ... 🙂

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  22. All Hail K
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Loic Remy is great value. I think I have a point for each time he's touched the ball.

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    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Lol.

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  23. JWF
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Any reason people appear to be favouring Terry over Ivan?

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Ivan on 3 YCs
      Terry is captain, more nailed on by a hair
      Terry started out cheaper
      People been owning Terry for more seasons, easy on the eyes when they check their team 😉

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    2. Sánchez
      • 13 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Seems like an all round nice guy.

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  24. Munsoned
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Haha, how was that a good tackle? Caught just the ankle...

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  25. Half Lit
    • 12 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Had to do it yesterday. Dropped Vidic-Sturridge for Vlaar- Suarez. Thank goodness with Vidic drop ans Suarez rise last night I wouldn't have been able to pull off. Moving forward:

    Migs (4.0)
    Ivan, Fonte, Walker (Chester,Vlaar)
    Ramsey, Ozil, Michu, Paulinho, (Barkley)
    Giroud, Suarez, Lukaku.

    Any thoughts.

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    1. stooshermadness
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Time will tell, but I think that's a good move given that you have 3 solid defenders (although Fonte's schedule takes a turn for the worse soon). By the end of the season you can see Suarez 25-40 points over Sturridge by year end, esp if Sturridge has a few niggles as he always seems too.

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  26. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    HBA having one of those days that is so frustrating if you own him.

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    1. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      He's usually this frustrating.

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    2. Munsoned
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Haha, right on Q

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  27. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Might do Michu out if he blanks one again today...

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      when will the hit parade stop?

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      He can score a brace today and he's still going.

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    3. Corrigan
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      persist with him

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    4. Qubit
      • 16 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      His base stats are pretty decent (shots on target etc), but a blank will be hard to take.

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  28. jdoyle
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Woah Remy, she said "no".

    catchy.

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  29. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    Benteke v Lukaku

    It's not hard to recognise what side I'm on, but I'm interested in others opinions.

    Who would you rather have?

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Bentekkers with his fixtures.

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      1. Make United Great Again
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Definitely

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    2. KillTheWise1
      • 12 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      I asked this question on the last page and got told to check their ppg from last season. Was quite surprised tbh

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      1. _Ninja_
        • 15 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Was Lukaku well ahead?

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      2. Make United Great Again
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 4 months ago

        Really?!

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        1. Qubit
          • 16 Years
          12 years, 4 months ago

          Im genuinely surprised more people dont know this. The stats this season support the same. I probably shouldnt be saying it here but i think Lukaku at

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          1. Qubit
            • 16 Years
            12 years, 4 months ago

            ~8m is a huge FPL bargain (dont know what happened to the rest of my post)

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    3. Munsoned
      • 14 Years
      12 years, 4 months ago

      Lukaku with his goals

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  30. rohan
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 4 months ago

    What a horrible goal to conceed

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