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7 December 2013 1608 comments
Mark Mark
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The early Saturday kick-offs are back and this one delivers an encounter which could bang a final nail in Man United’s title ambitions.

It seems premature and ridiculous to think that the champions could be out of the race before Christmas and yet, anything less than three points today with victories for City, Chelsea and Arsenal over the weekend, would surely leave David Moyes’ side floundering before the Turkey has been basted.

Newcastle can be dangerous opponents – they arrive at Old Trafford having had their four-match winning streak ruthlessly halted by Swansea in midweek. However, Alan Pardew’s side have weapons to hurt the United rearguard and a combative midfield who seem unlikely to surrender control to the home side.

Strangely, many Fantasy managers will struggle to find too much interest in this one. Although, with Wayne Rooney suspended, we can at least run the rule of Robin van Persie. The Dutchman makes a timely return to Moyes’ lineup having recovered from recent injury concerns. His introduction is one of seven changes as Jonny Evans, Phil Jones, Nani, Tom Cleverley, Adnan Januzaj and Javier Hernandez all come in. Chris Smalling, Ryan Giggs, Antonio Valencia, Marouane Fellaini, Danny Welbeck and Shinji Kagawa miss out following Wednesday’s defeat to Everton. As for Newcastle, they make just one change – Vernon Anita is drafted in to bolster the midfield as Shola Ameobi drops to the bench.

Our Dugout Discussion chatroom has opened up for this early clash and will remain available for your real-time requirements right through all today’s seven fixtures.

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  1. Bielsa's Bucket
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Glorious win for Newcastle! Getting sacked in the mornnnninggg!

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  2. Dr Dream
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Superb stuff by the Newcastle rearguard...top...just top.

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    1. don parcheesi
      12 years, 11 months ago

      agreed, the other side of the story is how well they played (even if it was a bit dirty)

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  3. Leaf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Fantastic 🙂

    ABU 🙂

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  4. El Berbossa - \\\"El b…
    12 years, 11 months ago

    The chosen one to fk the whole show.

    Well done lads. Did me proud. Lost a JE CS. But oh well. Newcastle WON!

    Moyes out.

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  5. r0nh
    12 years, 11 months ago

    If Utd dont make the CL next year...

    Highly likely now too.

    As for winning the league this year, no chance.

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    1. Bielsa's Bucket
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Had a £20 bet with my United friend Arsenal would finish above United.
      How much haribo can I get with £20

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  6. SPorting
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Winning goal for Cabaye should put him on 9 bps and join Krul on 3 baps, right?

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    1. Spike ⚽️
      12 years, 11 months ago

      No just 2 for Cabaye 😉

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      1. SPorting
        12 years, 11 months ago

        😀

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    2. Moorinho
      12 years, 11 months ago

      YC for Cabaye as well.

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    3. Dr Dream
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I hope so..he may be on my bench but he may get...I went for a one week punt on Jonjo so he's gonna have to score 10.....

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  7. The Finnisher
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Newcastle's last 7 weeks;

    Concede 2 vs Sunderland
    Clean sheets vs Spurs and Chelsea
    Concede vs Norwich and West Brom at home
    Concede 3 to Swansea
    Clean sheet vs Man United away.

    WTF.

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    1. SPorting
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Conclusion:

      Buy Cabaye.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        12 years, 11 months ago

        *Not Now

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        1. SPorting
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Yes.

          I have him already so the uninformed will buy, buy, BUY!

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          1. isacki: full casual
            12 years, 11 months ago

            Evil, evil man.

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      2. Spike ⚽️
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Are we keeping. It only showed 4 yellow cards when he got booked ?

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        1. SPorting
          12 years, 11 months ago

          Keeping fo sho.

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      3. Dr Dream
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Nah...it's perfect...no bandwagon and keep the differential.

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    2. Piggs Boson
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Shuts up shop against the big teams.

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      1. don parcheesi
        12 years, 11 months ago

        but they still pressured them

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  8. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 11 months ago

    No Rooney. No United.

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    1. Mighty
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Hardly the case considering they haven't won a league game since beating Arsenal and Rooney has been available.

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      1. Simon69
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Have to completely disagree with you. He can't single handedly win games for us.. there are too many issues elsewhere in the squad. When he plays he makes all the difference both going forward and tracking back.

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        1. Mighty
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 11 months ago

          That's exactly my point!! Rooney, by himself, isn't the difference as proven by PL games since Arsenal!

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  9. Cilly Bonnolly
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Three bonus points for Krul?

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    1. Bielsa's Bucket
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Expect to see BAPS like Crystal Palace game last week

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  10. Jimmers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Unbelievable Jeff!

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  11. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    12 years, 11 months ago

    That was woeful. Newcastle won't get any credit. Everyone will be talking about Moyes

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    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Well you can't blame them. Not even a single big chance speaks for itself.

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    2. SPorting
      12 years, 11 months ago

      He gets credit too.

      For getting it horribly wrong.

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    3. The Finnisher
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Moyes will take all the heat but some of Man United's players would struggle in the Championship..

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    4. The Shadow
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Should be talking about the ManU midfield.

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      1. GTS
        12 years, 11 months ago

        this.

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    5. CABAYE4
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Who cares about public credit? We'll be happy with the win and the 3 points that go with it.

      Howay the lads!

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      1. isacki: full casual
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Nice one. Great team performance.

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        1. isacki: full casual
          12 years, 11 months ago

          You look better than 2011/2012 to be honest.

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          1. CABAYE4
            12 years, 11 months ago

            Much better squad depth than then.

            Being able to field a bench with Ben Arfa, Cisse, Yanga Mbiwa, Gutierrez and often Anita is a massive step up from then. French boys who arrived in January have settled in and starting to pay dividends.

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            1. isacki: full casual
              12 years, 11 months ago

              Yeah good point. And no Europa. Hard to decide whom to invest in as you can go very defensive when required. I guess it's got to be Cabaye.

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    6. Count of Monte Hristo
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Another good away performance at OT however Moyes is contributing to these results. The place is normally a fortress and teams should fear going there but they no longer do. Moyes has to take responsibility for that.

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  12. Obi Wan Elokobi
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Would have been happy with a draw. Ecstatic with them losing. Just want a general consensus from the "real" united fans on what needs to be done?

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    1. onionbarje
      12 years, 11 months ago

      We have to many CDMs and not enough CM who are playmakers. We need to ditch Cleverly and (regrettably) Anderson. I woul sell Fellani but he has just come in. We also need to sell Young and Nani and maybe Valencia and use that money to buy two decent CMs and maybe a winger. We can sort our replacements for Vidic and Ferdi in the summer.

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  13. isacki: full casual
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Scouts I've spotted a mistake in the season ticker - why do United have blue fixtures?

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    1. SPorting
      12 years, 11 months ago

      It's a mood ticker.

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    2. Epic Fail
      12 years, 11 months ago

      😀

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    3. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 11 months ago

      😆 Now, now! 😉

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  14. Gr3g
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Toothless UNited! No Rooney, no party!

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    1. onionbarje
      12 years, 11 months ago

      we lossed with Rooney so he doesn't matter, its the midfield thats the problem

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      1. Gr3g
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Yes, but Rooney will fall back at times to try to create things as well. He is the only Manu player left with fighting spirit

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  15. Mile Plankton - Myth and Ch…
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Please, please Martinez, don't play Barkley tomorow!

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  16. Piggs Boson
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Finally United fans get the opportunity to show they are not glory supporters.

    Big signings coming in January.

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Hope so.

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    2. Moorinho
      12 years, 11 months ago

      They'll probably be out of the title race by then or even top 4 race!

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    3. The Finnisher
      12 years, 11 months ago

      *some United fans.

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  17. Fray Bentos
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Gunner victory will see united closer to 20th than 1st.

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  18. onionbarje
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Moyes just sell every mid and winger except Kags, Zaha, Januzi

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    1. La Roja
      12 years, 11 months ago

      matbe selling moyes is better idea?

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    2. ChampChomp
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Zaha is shit too!

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    3. Jump in Micah
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Keep zaha??? did you just watch the game?

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      1. onionbarje
        12 years, 11 months ago

        give him a chance

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  19. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Might captain villa player next week

    Excellent fixture v united

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      12 years, 11 months ago

      we all know you wont bemba

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  20. Scottys Army
    12 years, 11 months ago

    No way Wazza gets any more rest over christmas after this shocker

    tempted to get him back in ....

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  21. Valar(Keith)
    12 years, 11 months ago

    shouldve done brady to cabaye... gonna do it in 2 weeks anyway 😎

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  22. GoonerByron
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Yet another load of Krul points on the bench, damnit!!

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  23. PogChamp
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Yeah baps for Debuchy. Maybe today won't be so bad.

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  24. JasonG123
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Any chance Marshall doesn't play? Krul on the bench. 🙁

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  25. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Utd should of got Mourinho

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    1. DRIZ ✅
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Chelsea are not any good themselves

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      1. Moorinho
        12 years, 11 months ago

        Mourinho actually makes changes that get the team to win.

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        1. onionbarje
          12 years, 11 months ago

          no one could win with a midfield like this, why do you think Fergie left

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  26. Obi Wan Elokobi
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Morrison out Delph in?

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    1. Jump in Micah
      12 years, 11 months ago

      lol

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  27. Jump in Micah
    12 years, 11 months ago

    Hmm i had krul, januzaj and RVP starting.... at least krul picks up 10

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  28. FORCA INTER
    12 years, 11 months ago

    😆 at people who predicted UTD in top 2

    😆 at RVP lovers

    guy is compleate useless player

    UTD fans you should be lucky if your club stays in league

    if they manage to do that it would be cause of Rooney

    without him they are at Fulham and Sunderland level

    not much beetwen altidore and rvp as well

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    1. Jump in Micah
      12 years, 11 months ago

      RVP a useless player... urm

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    2. Valar(Keith)
      12 years, 11 months ago

      I hate manu but this still p!sses me off

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    3. onionbarje
      12 years, 11 months ago

      RVP is useless when he is getting no service from a useless midfield. RVP is an outright striker where as Rooney is more of a CF/CAM

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    4. ChampChomp
      12 years, 11 months ago

      You're not very well informed on anything ever.

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    5. Natas
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Just because your sister has a few one night stands, does that make her a useless whore?

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      1. Natas
        12 years, 11 months ago

        hypothetically speaking....

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  29. Hi I'm Jose
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 11 months ago

    I think Utd need me now..

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    1. Sanguinista
      12 years, 11 months ago

      Not the duplicate one, the real one!

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