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8 February 2014 3434 comments
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A stunning scoreline and performance from Liverpool leads us into six three o’clock kick-offs, before the day draws to a close in South Wales as Swansea clash with Cardiff.

With Arsenal slipping up so spectacularly, it’s over to Man City to see if they can capitalise with three points at Carrow Road. Meanwhile, Chelsea face what looks like a routine home fixture with a beleaguered Newcastle in their effort to boost their title challenge further following Monday night’s epic Etihad victory.

Elsewhere, Southampton will look to build on their flourishing form with three points at St Mary’s with Stoke the visitors. Sunderland will seek to maintain their remarkable recovery under Gus Poyet as they face Hull City. West Ham go to Villa Park without the threat of Andy Carroll in attack, while Tony Pulis hands debuts to three new signings as Palace look to earn another precious home win against the inconsistent Baggies at Selhurst Park.

You can find all the teamsheet news from these matches in our Twitter feed, while the Dugout Discussion chatroom is still open and will be available to soak up your real-time reactions right up until the final whistle at the Liberty Stadium this evening.

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  1. DrCongo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    Can someone explain how a Charlie Adam handball results in a Lallana assist?

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      He hit it onto the hand of Adam's...?

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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        adam stopped the ball, lallana wasn't aiming for his hand

        idiotic assist

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        1. 7shadesofsmoke
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          Lallana created the goalscoring opportunity.

          (non-owner)

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        2. Crouch Potato!
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          Idiotic lack of knowledge regards the rules.

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          1. 7shadesofsmoke
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            wowzers. That was a bit harsh!

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            1. Crouch Potato!
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              Well he don't half spend the day going on about the same subject, just do the logical thing and read the rules.

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        3. Adnan Shah
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          Well no one complains if penalty results from a handball with assist going to the player whose shot results in penalty.

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    2. Epic Fail
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      Have you read the assist rules?

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      1. DrCongo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Would I have asked if i hadnt?

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        1. Epic Fail
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          I don't know.

          Have you?

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          1. DrCongo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            Thanks alot for your pointless replies. Means an awful lot

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            1. Epic Fail
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              Is that a yes or a no?

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    3. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      the assist rules are stupid, but they are what they are.

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    4. isacki: full casual
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      http://fantasy.premierleague.com/rules/

      Would have been an assist last year too under the 'last to touch the ball before the goalscorer' assist definition.

      Doesn't make it right, just makes it following the rules.

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      1. DrCongo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Dont see how lallana 'earned' the free kick

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          Assists are awarded by OPTA

          "Fantasy Goal Assist

          From Summer 2013, Opta have started to collect a range of other assists used by fantasy football, but also available to clients to determine their own definition should they wish

          Heavily deflected pass
          Shot on target saved, rebound scored
          Shot blocked rebound scored
          Shot hit woodwork rebound scored
          Penalty won
          Free kick won by foul
          -> Free kick instigated by forced handball
          Instigating own goal through shot/pass"

          http://www.optasports.com/news-area/blog-optas-event-definitions.aspx

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          1. DrCongo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            Thanks, clears that up

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            1. isacki: full casual
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              Kinda. As you can see below these assists have been awarded previously this season

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    5. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      12 years, 1 month ago

      Goal was scored direct from free-kick awarded for handball

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    6. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      it's lucky but valid.
      i had 6 points (assist + 3baps) from vertonghen crossing into a handball earlier in the season so can't be too mad

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      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
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        I had the same in that game. Vert = BAPS machine 🙂 😎

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  2. Total Foot 5
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    best duo

    1--silva + aspi
    2--gerad + ivan

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    1. Bøss ⭐
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      Close but I'd go Gerard and Ivan

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    2. Pepereina Pizza
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      def ivan + gerrard

      source: ivan/gerrard owner

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  3. Grounderz
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    Yaya and Evan ➡ Hazard and Demel - yay or nay?

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    1. GreennRed
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      Yay.

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    2. Red Viper
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      yay

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    3. Grounderz
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      Or should I wait till after the United game is over? Hazard on 3% to rise and may rise.

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      1. Red Viper
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        of course you should wait, if money is not an issue, might be injuries tomorrow

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      2. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Hazard will not rise until after Sunday, if he even rises this gameweek. IMO

        already at 1.1million ownership

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      3. Grounderz
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        Cheers lads.

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  4. GreennRed
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    Jaysus.

    If Scotland v England was pay-per-view they'd be giving refunds 🙁

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  5. Pea Soup
    • 14 Years
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Hands up if you can't WAIT for the ML updates...

    o/

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  6. Feanor
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    Fonte fail, Hazard happiness.

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    1. The Gambler.
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      Lallana lucky

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      1. Gaz Downright
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        • 15 Years
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        Swansea moves up to 10th. The table shows how important it was to get rid of Laudrup.

        #sarcasm #nosarcasm #sarcasm

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  7. boc610
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    anyone play januzai instead of sterling ? 0/

    any chance he wont play?

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
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      12 years, 1 month ago

      Im sure he will play some part in the game. Sorry.

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    2. GreennRed
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      Not start, probably be brought on.

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    3. Bøss ⭐
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      There's a good chance he won't, I don't think he did last week since Mata came in

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  8. Red Viper
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    most nailed on West Ham defender?

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    1. applebonkers
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      • 16 Years
      12 years, 1 month ago

      could actually be demel, then reid when he finally get back in

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      1. Red Viper
        • 13 Years
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I dont want to do that transfer, you reckon Demel could lose his place when Reid returns?

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        1. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Demel plays RB, Reid plays CB.

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        2. Grounderz
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          Eh? Doesn't Reid play CB while Demel is a FB?

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  9. mojoindojo
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    74 with Coleman to play. Happy!

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      Lovely. Hazard (c) ?

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      1. mojoindojo
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        yes

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  10. izo
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    best short term Januzaj replacement under 7.3M?
    team is linked.

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
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      Erikson if he is still 7.3, if not Sterling probably.

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      1. izo
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        he is 7.4 and have Sterling...

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        1. Wilshere Knowledge
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          Not many options 🙁

          Wilshere if you have faith in Arsenal, Adam maybe, or Henderson perhaps, Willian if he is 7.3.

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  11. Big_Andy_GAWA
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Guys,

    WHU choice of defender ? Safest with Demel now that Reid was again eased back into things and they've kept another cleanie...?

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  12. Heydudes13
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard eh, didn't captain but some haul that!

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    1. GreennRed
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      A rich man's Charlie Adam.

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      1. Heydudes13
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        Called like the pro I am. 😎

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  13. Assisting you all day
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    noone to come on for cardiff?

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    1. Big_Andy_GAWA
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      Nah, would say they'll make one or two changes at least... 😉

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      1. GreennRed
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        Telegraphed 🙂

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      2. Strificus
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        I hope Mutch, personally :/

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  14. Total Foot 5
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Kolarov: is he now a 99% certainty to start gw 26 SUN at home?

    yes, w/ pellegrini, clichy or kol could now b a starter any gven gw home or away.

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  15. Johnny139
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Guys, any recommendations? 0.1 in the bank, 2FT's:

    Team: http://i.imgur.com/IJ41Rdx.png

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    1. masonwt
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      12 years, 1 month ago

      Quality team mannone out then save the other transfer for the blank

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      1. Johnny139
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        Great, thanks Mason! 🙂

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  16. Red Viper
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    F*cking hell, every damn person here seems to have Hazard captain 🙁

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    1. GreennRed
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      I'm a sound person not a damn one, hence my poor choice.

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    2. Heydudes13
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      Nah less so!

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    3. aehii
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      Stuffy.

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    4. Deulo10
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      12 years, 1 month ago

      Well, some people don't even have him... 🙄

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    5. Epic Fail
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      You'll hear more people pipe up if RVP does well. That's the way it goes.

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    6. Strificus
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      In reality; about 15% of those claiming to have gone that route are actually telling the truth.

      Just like how no one ever seems to be placing the armband on Suarez; yet they never actually remove it.

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  17. BobB
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Very surprised Cardiff dropped Noone. He has been their stand-out performer in recent weeks

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  18. Dr Dream
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Did three transfers again this week..mainly due to injuries forcing the extra one....Kompany in (would have had to play Kos)...RVP in for Giroud and (c)..and Jrod in for Studge as makeweight for RVP (c) against Fulham at home....and next week..RVP > Studge for Fulham again..Gonna be a good net gain I'm thinking .

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    1. Wilshere Knowledge
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      Squidly didly with fingers in pies. Too much lark for my liking.

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  19. Stand Free
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    Is Nolan not the ideal replacement for AJ?

    Great day at Parkhead today. Aberdeen were brilliant. We really deserved to beat Celtic.

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    1. The Gambler.
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      C'mon the dons 🙂

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    2. masonwt
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      In that price bracket is say so

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  20. Captain Shirokov
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    72 points, Chelsea top of the league and Crispy Chili Chicken on the way from the Chinese. 😀

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      #YOLO

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      1. isacki: full casual
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        "... especially after Crispy Chilli Chicken."

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  21. Terrible Muriel
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    Cazorla > Lallana & Kosc > Ivanovic
    2FT, already have Terry and no other Arsenal cover. Yay or nay?

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  22. Gigging Order
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    12 years, 1 month ago

    If anyone ever doubted the value of paying for a membership on this site, the reason why I captained Hazard was because of ITWT's excellent "Captain Sensible" article.

    Thanks ITWT and thanks FFS! 🙂

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    1. The Gambler.
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      He was capt'd choice in RMT so I changed from Suarez to Haz. Thanks FFS

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    2. sinik
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      I like the crew so I'm happy to support them

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    3. FPL Notebook (John)
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      Agree. Thank you!

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  23. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    emnes off at HT on his debut 😆

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    1. isacki: full casual
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      He wasn't even that bad!

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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        Hamstring injury ahhh, thought it was performance based

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          Ah OK. Has paid off to be fair

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  24. _Ninja_
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    Best AJ replacement?

    A, Mirallas
    B. Lallana
    C. Nolan

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    1. Pepereina Pizza
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      b

      (nolan came off with a rumored knock / groin problem)

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  25. Heydudes13
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    Olsson benched. 🙁

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    1. asdasdasdadasdasda
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      Me too
      had koscielny playing instead

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  26. Pepereina Pizza
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    Anyone know where that post is that estimates a probaiblity for GW29 blanks?

    GW29.... *NOT GW28

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  27. Captain Shirokov
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    1

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  28. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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    OMG Routledge

    1-0

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    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
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      pablo assist

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  29. Captain Shirokov
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    Routledge goal

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