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18 June 2014 2465 comments
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Fantasy managers will be looking for an improvement from this evening’s three fixtures after yesterday’s schedule served up just five goals. The first match on our agenda bodes well for Fantasy returns as Holland square up to Australia on the back of a stunning 5-1 triumph over defending champions Spain last time around:

Holland: Cillessen; Janmaat, Vlaar, De Vrij, Martins Indi, Blind; De Jong, De Guzman, Sneijder; Van Persie, Robben

Australia: Ryan; McGowan, Wilkinson, Spiranovic, Davidson; Jedinak, McKay, Bresciano; Leckie, Cahill, Oar

Unsurprisingly, Louis Van Gaal names an unchanged side after last week’s humbling of Spain. Holland are expected to line up in a 5-3-2 formation once again, then, with Daley Blind and Daryl Janmaat handed the wing-back role, while front two Arjen Robben and Robin Van Persie will be hoping to maintain the form that saw both score twice in their Group B opener.

Australia make a couple of alterations from the side that lost to Chile. Ivan Franjic is out with a hamstring injury, allowing Ryan McGowan the chance to deputise at right-back, whilst in central midfield, Matt McKay comes in for Mark Milligan. As always, Tim Cahill carries the main threat as the former Everton man looks to get amongst the goals again, having netted in last week’s 3-1 loss.

Following that one, Spain square up to Chile in a must-win Group B match. Their humbling by the Dutch, allied with the South American’s opening win over the Aussies, means Vicente del Bosque’s side have it all to do – if Holland win in the earlier match, a victory for Chile would send the Spaniards tumbling out after just two games. Diego Costa’s starting role looks under threat in light of a poor display against the Dutch, whilst Fantasy managers will be hoping del Bosque’s side can replicate the resilience that made their defence such strong options in the previous couple of international tournaments. Chile will look to Alexis Sanchez to maintain the form that saw him produce a goal and assist in the 3-1 win over Australia, though Jorge Valdivia and Eduardo Vargas are also in form, having served up a goal and assist respectively last time around.

The late 11pm kick-off sees Croatia take on Cameroon as both sides attempt to bounce back from Matchday 1 defeats. Suspended for the loss to Brazil, Mario Mandzukic is available once again and is expected to lead the line – with Ivan Rakitic, Luka Modric and Ivan Perisic supplying the guile from midfield, Niko Kovac’s side may well prove too strong for their opponents. The Africans are sweating on the fitness of Samuel Eto’o ahead of tonight’s game – the veteran’s potential absence could afford Vincent Aboubakar his first start of the tournament in a reshuffle up top.

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  1. pundit of punts
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    Tw, no score update from the Russians till now. Comrades busy with the vodka I assume. 😛

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    1. tw
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      sorry, just wrapped up our second of three vodka training sessions for the day. because everything, even our performance on the pitch, is better with vodka 😀

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      1. pundit of punts
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        😀

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  2. Fantasy Gold
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    Anybody know who was awarded Star Man in the Sun game?

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  3. the axolotl
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    Hey. If the dutch come from holland. Are they the only nationality that doesnt sound like their country.

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Kiwi?

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
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        Is that not a nickname?

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    2. Fresco
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      people from Barbados are called Bajuns

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    3. MJ6987
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      Netherlands as well?

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    4. RedLightning
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      And Netherlands doesn't sound much like either Dutch or Holland. Any other countries with 3 such dissimilar names?

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    5. the axolotl
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      Yeah nobody says new zealander so that kind of counts. Bajuns now. That might win me some money in this very strange conversation i'm having. 🙂

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    6. Jafooli
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      Khmers come from Cambodia

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      1. Jafooli
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        Or people from Cambodia are called Khmers.

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        1. kalmoffit
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          Where do Cambodians come from?

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          1. Jafooli
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            Khmer is the proper tital.

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    7. Woy of the Wovers
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      The Dutch, Holland and Netherlands refer to different regions.

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  4. shazzaaam
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    rvp and robben points mcds?

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    1. Fifa las vegas
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      Rvp is 7
      Not sure about Robben

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      1. shazzaaam
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        thanks

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  5. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 9 months ago

    TFF's Pre Season Quiz #13

    (Time limit:5 minutes)

    Demi 2 Djerbil 1

    4/8

    -Name an Argentinian who has won the premier league but has not played for Man City or Man United
    -Name two Brazilians who have played for Man Utd

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    1. Notorious
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      Crespo
      Fabio, Rafael

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      1. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Well done! 🙂

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    2. Funkyav
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      Crespo
      DA Silva Rafael and fabio

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    3. LOCO ABREU
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      ardilles?
      kleberson,fabio

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    4. SW6
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      Crespo
      Kleberson, Rafael

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    5. @ImpressiveTackl
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      - Crespo
      - Kleberson, Anderson

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    6. Konig Luther
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      Crespo
      Fabio and Anderson

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    7. GunsnRoses
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      Vivas
      Di Santo

      Hainze and Veron

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      1. GunsnRoses
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        Oh I thought second one asked about two Argentine 🙁 🙁
        Fabio and Rafael :/

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    8. 7shadesofsmoke
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      wheres my point for Ukraine?

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      1. Konig Luther
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        was the 1st to answer one question, demi answered before

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        1. 7shadesofsmoke
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          ahhhh, fair enough.

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  6. SW6
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    Anyone got a link to Cahill's goal, missed the first half 🙁

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Enjoy

      https://t.co/xevtX2doVg

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      1. SW6
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        Thanks, nice goal 🙂

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  7. LOCO ABREU
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    we can check the lineups from netherlands,chile,australia and spain before transfers next round.

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    1. pundit of punts
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      Which game?

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      1. LOCO ABREU
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        both games from group B

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  8. Fifa las vegas
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    One bet I've noticed is:
    The total goals in first half
    You could back exactly 1 and exactly 2, if one comes in(which in think is likely) you have a profit
    Eg.
    Put 4 on exactly 2 you make 15
    Then put 3 on exactly 1 you get 7.88 (ie little or no profit but you are covered)

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    1. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
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      An even better one would be (of you're confident of a Spain win)
      Match and total goals bet
      Spain win and 1 or 2 goals in match
      Spain win and 3 or 4 in match, can be worked out similarly to first half total goals

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      1. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
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        You could also add chile to this......then just hope it's not a draw! Gives a good chance if your brave enough! 🙂

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    2. FPL Touches
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      Thanks, just times stake by ten lol

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      1. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
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        It's an example dude! Simmer will ya!

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    3. FPL Touches
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      You can also do total Chile goals

      Exactly 1 and Exactly 2 are same odds (2.37)

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      1. FPL Touches
        • 14 Years
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        *Exactly 0

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      2. Fifa las vegas
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        Ya, but Spain are more likely to score?

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  9. SW6
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    It makes me a little nervous that you can still sub out players from GW1

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    1. shillso
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      So if I sub out someone will that unlock the others? I have montazari and on my bench

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      1. SW6
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        You can sub players out (lose their points) but not bring anyone in. Effectively throw away someone's points

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        1. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 15 Years
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          Could be useful if one of your players had negative points!

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      2. RedLightning
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        I doubt it, but you might possibly lose points.
        My overall rank for the previous round has improved slightly since first thing this morning, so perhaps a few players might have fallen foul of that already.

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  10. Epic Fail
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    What's wrong with Ferdinand's ear?

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
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      Its got his face next to it.

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
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        He should probably have it chopped off then.

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  11. denial
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
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    Is RVP suspended for next game?

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    1. Epic Fail
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      Yes.

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    2. GunsnRoses
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      yes

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    3. Konig Luther
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      yes

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    4. 7shadesofsmoke
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      yes

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    5. 7shadesofsmoke
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      😆

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      1. Konig Luther
        • 13 Years
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        4 yes in 4 seconds

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    6. tw
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      yes

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    7. Notorious
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      Yes.

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    8. Epic Fail
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      Yes

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    9. Pinturicchio
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      yes

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    10. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
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      Am......hmmmm....I think....soooooo. Ya

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    11. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      yes

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      1. denial
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
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        Fairly conclusive.

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    12. Adderz
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      yes

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    13. MJ6987
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      Yes

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  12. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
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    On the climb again in Fox..53OR..Messi (C) still in place.

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
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      well played old boy!

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    2. pundit of punts
      • 13 Years
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      54 here. Messi captain for me as well. 😀

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    3. President John F. Keninnsie
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      2nd OR 😀

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      1. emperikal
        • 15 Years
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        Told ya I'm coming for ya 😉

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      2. pundit of punts
        • 13 Years
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        I'm coming for you.

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    4. emperikal
      • 15 Years
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      10th OR but (C) Robben already played but expected 3 juicy BPs

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  13. SW6
    • 13 Years
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    Lets all hope for.

    Spain 2- 1 Chile (Pedrox2, Vargas)

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      I'm hoping for Sanchez FGS and Chile to win.

      Fantasy-wise, Ramos hat trick and clean sheet.

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    2. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      That'll do pig...that'll do 😉

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  14. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 9 months ago

    TFF's Pre Season Quiz #13

    (Time limit:5 minutes)

    Demi 2 Djerbil 1 Notorious 1

    5/8

    Attempt ONLY ONE

    Name the English club who once got relegated from the English first division despite conceding the fewest goals in the league

    OR

    Who is the last player to have captained a club through all four English divisions

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    1. Notorious
      • 12 Years
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      Cardiff

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      1. GunsnRoses
        • 14 Years
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        🙁

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        1. BigManBakar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 9 months ago

          Well done! 🙂

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          1. BigManBakar
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
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            The answer to the second is ashbee for hull

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          2. ManofKent
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
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            But Cardiff aren't an English club...

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            1. 7shadesofsmoke
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 9 months ago

              BOOM.

              He's got you there!

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    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
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      Coleman? 2

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    3. GunsnRoses
      • 14 Years
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      Cardiff

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      1. GunsnRoses
        • 14 Years
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        2nd one Ashbee ?

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    4. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
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      Cardiff

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  15. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 9 months ago

    Joachim Löw's tactics revealed for Germany's next match

    http://38.media.tumblr.com/45fdf9edcd6e053667812849a401d877/tumblr_mwiee7TDwW1qaorn7o1_400.gif

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    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
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      disgusting.

      I can't get my head around people doing this.

      Flick that bad boy away!!

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
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        Why flick it away if it tastes nice?

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        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 13 Years
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          puked in my mouth

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      2. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
        • 14 Years
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        Its got a lot of nutrients ? 😉

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    2. iCon
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      Hey BLT, how'd you fare in GW1? You're the only score from Espana missing!

      https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aul0PglyD-ESdFlTNE5fcnEzLUlSWkRCQmY2aUJicVE&usp=drive_web#gid=24

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  16. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 9 months ago

    TFF's Pre Season Quiz #13

    (Time limit:5 minutes)

    Demi 2 Djerbil 1 Notorious 2

    6/8

    Name a player who has played for England and against England

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    1. Saniul
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      Ryan Giggs? 😛

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    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 13 Years
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      Giggs?

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    3. Nico.
      • 12 Years
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      Robert Green 😉

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
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        he's said FOR England as well 😉

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        1. Nico.
          • 12 Years
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          😀

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    4. GunsnRoses
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      In Cricket Eon Morgan

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    5. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      Last minute, hurry up!

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    6. Notorious
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      Robert "Bobby" Ernest Evans 😀

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    7. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      Times up, dave watson!

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  17. Jonnykanzen
    • 11 Years
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    Iniesta or Sanchez captain in maccy d

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      Go with your gut. Plenty of chances after this one.

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    2. Notorious
      • 12 Years
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      Sanchez.

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    3. Nico.
      • 12 Years
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      Iniesta! Differential 😉

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  18. The Sarjeant
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 9 months ago

    Wish I still had cash in my account to have a little flutter! Just have to hope England change their starting XI so I can get £30!

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  19. Surfreak
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 9 months ago

    Anyone having issues swapping players in the McDonalds WC game?
    Sorry if its been asked before not been on for a few days.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
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      Fine for me.
      Have you clicked on round 2?

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    2. Surfreak
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      Yes mate, I can take players out but the only way to get one in is to use the auto complete. On iPad by the way.

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
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        Yeah don't use an iPad. Doesn't work properly according to people on here.

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  20. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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    Dave watson

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    1. GunsnRoses
      • 14 Years
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      Done with Googling ?

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      1. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
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        Reply failed 🙁

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    2. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
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      😯

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      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 13 Years
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        haha

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  21. BigManBakar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
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    TFF's Pre Season Quiz #13

    (Time limit:5 minutes)

    Demi 2 Djerbil 1 Notorious 2

    7/8

    In which UEFA Euro was no penalty awarded during the knockout phases of the tournament? (Most recent)

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    1. Notorious
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      Euro 2012

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    2. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
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      2008

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      1. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Correct!

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    3. GunsnRoses
      • 14 Years
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      2004 ?

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    4. Old Schoolᴼˢ “disa…
      • 14 Years
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      2000

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    5. GunsnRoses
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      LOL in descending order 😛

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      1. Konig Luther
        • 13 Years
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        1996

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    6. Saniul
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      2000?

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  22. Sean.
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    Telegraph down for the second time today, useless !

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    1. Epic Fail
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      Terrible when it's a pay for game.

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      1. Sean.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        Not that I was going to win it, but lost out on RVP and Robben.
        Just annoying

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        1. Epic Fail
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          Aye it's the principal. The games gotta work properly if they're gonna charge to play it.

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    2. MJ6987
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      Especially just before games when people want to do transfers...of course, that's why its down though

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      1. Sean.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
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        The beauty of it was that you could see the line-ups
        before drafting in players

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    3. JT's Dog
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        Use smoke signals

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    4. GunsnRoses
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      Chile to win 3-1.

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    5. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
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      TFF's Pre Season Quiz #13

      (Time limit:5 minutes)

      Demi 2 Djerbil 1 Notorious 2 KL 1

      8/8

      Identify the surnames of the following former Man City from their initials

      MB,JG,KT,DV,CT

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      1. GunsnRoses
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        Mario Baloteli
        _________ Javi Garcia ?
        Kolo Toure
        ________
        Carlos Tevez

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      2. Notorious
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        Mario Balloteli, Javier Garrido, Kolo Toure, Darius Vassell, Carloz Tevez

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        1. BigManBakar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
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          BOOM! Congrats!! 😀 😀

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      3. Ludo
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        Michael Ball, Darius Vassell, Carlos Tevez. Pass on the others.

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        1. Konig Luther
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          only only knew the others... Kolo Toure and Javi Garcia

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      4. Saniul
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        Mario Balotelli.
        Darius Vassell.
        Kolo Toure.
        Carlos Tevez.
        Javi Garcia.

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      5. BigManBakar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Javi Garcia isn't former btw!

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      6. GunsnRoses
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        Mario Baloteli
        Javi Garcia
        Kolo Toure
        Darius Vassel
        Carlos Tevez

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    6. Saniul
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      West Ham United are delighted to confirm the transfer of Senegal international Cheikhou Kouyate.

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      1. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
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        Delighted is a bit strong a word?

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      2. Wilshere Knowledge
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        Centre back, not midfielder, yh?

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        1. Gatsby
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          Can play DM supposedly.

          It's where we need somewhere so he better be able to!

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    7. MJ6987
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      So, just to be clear, is RVP suspended for next game???

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      1. Les Bleus
        • 14 Years
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        Yep

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    8. 4vets
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      Feck me... those Chileans!!!!!

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      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 9 months ago

        You want the Chileans to do what to you 😯

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    9. BigManBakar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      Congrats to Notorious on winning his first ever quiz! 😀 😀
      Thank you all for joining in, hope you had fun!
      Any feedback on the questions will be appreciated.

      Cheers! 😀

      Pre Season Quiz Leaderboard:
      Nate 4 CNN 2 Innsie 2 IM 2 AR 1 Avishek 1 Gargamel 1 Demi 1 Cabaye4 1 GreenWindMill 1 Jonty 1 Notorious 1

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      1. Konig Luther
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 9 months ago

        and you done this before Spain match by 11 sec... good

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        1. BigManBakar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 9 months ago

          Thanks,it was supposed to kill the time before the fixture

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      2. Notorious
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 9 months ago

        Cheers, TFF. Nice quiz as always. 🙂

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        1. BigManBakar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 9 months ago

          Thanks mate,glad you liked it 😉

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    10. Wilshere Knowledge
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      Spain are fecked.

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    11. Godfather Bandit 42
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 9 months ago

      What? No Valdivia?!

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