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28 July 2014 2089 comments
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West Brom boss Alan Irvine continued to restructure his first-team squad for the season ahead with the acquisition of Andre Wisdom on a season-long loan deal from Liverpool:

The 21-year-old is the sixth player to arrive at The Hawthorns since Irvine took the helm earlier this summer and, as the new manager admitted, his adaptability affords the Baggies options at the back:

“I’m delighted to welcome Andre to the club. I’ve spoken to Brendan Rodgers, who I’ve known for a very long time and who I trust implicitly. He said Andre would do a good job for us. That was reassuring. He’s a versatile lad. He’s played as a right-back for Liverpool in the Premier League last season, he also played as a full-back for Derby. He grew up as a centre-back and played on the left side of central defence for Liverpool against Preston on Saturday.”

The History

Yorkshire-born Wisdom started his career with Bradford City’s youth team before being snapped up by Liverpool at the age of 14. After progressing through the Merseysiders’ youth system, he was finally afforded a senior debut by Brendan Rodgers in 2012/13 and, after playing 22 times across all competitions, scoring once and chipping in with a pair of assists, was farmed out on loan to Derby County in October 2013.

Utilised exclusively as a right-back by Steve McLaren, Wisdom was nailed-on for the Championship outfit. Serving up a trio of assists over 37 appearances, he helped The Rams to the Wembley Play-Off Final against QPR back in May, where, despite dominating for much of the match, they fell to a 1-0 defeat.

At international level, Wisdom has represented England at every youth level, from Under-16 to Under-21, on a total of 37 occasions and has found the net three times.

The Prospects

A peripheral figure at Anfield, the move has immediately brought Wisdom onto Fantasy managers’ radars due to his budget price-tag across the Fantasy games. Available for a mere 4.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) and 5.2 in the Sky Sports Fantasy game, there’s a hope that the youngster could cement a starting berth for The Baggies as Irvine looks to improve upon a dire previous season which saw the club finish just three points clear of the drop zone.

Handed a start at right-back on his debut against Sacramento Republic at the weekend, Wisdom played the full 90 minutes in a 3-1 win as Irvine’s side triumphed for the fourth successive outing this summer. Whilst Fantasy suitors will be delighted with his start, the imminent arrival of Costa Rican international defender Cristian Gamboa suggests that Wisdom faces a real battle for the right-back berth as Irvine looks to strengthen following the departures of Billy Jones and Steven Reid over the summer.

However, with the 4.0-priced Chris Baird also offering an option in central midfield and right-back, the situation is far from clear right now. Whilst Irvine has cited the youngster’s versatility as key, The Baggies are not short of alternatives in central defence – new boy Joleon Lescott is favourite to get the nod after quitting champions City for the Midlands, whilst Gareth McAuley, Jonas Olsson and Craig Dawson are also in the mix.

Intriguingly, though, the local press reckon that the incoming Gamboa could be earmarked for an occasional role on the right of midfield. Pacier than Wisdom, he was used as a wing-back during Costa Rica’s recent World Cup campaign and could offer more from an attacking point of view – certainly, if such a scenario transpires, he could well be the best option from Irvine’s defence.

Certainly, five of West Brom’s first six home fixtures (SUN, EVE, BUR, CPL, NEW) suggest defensive returns could be on the cards, thus strengthening their appeal as cheap rotation options. Wisdom, undoubtedly, has the potential to be a very budget-friendly FPL option for the season ahead, though with a number of ifs and buts still surrounding the Baggies’ likely back-four, Fantasy managers may be best keeping a keen eye on Irvine’s intentions before acquiring the youngster with any degree of conviction.

Further Reference

Andre Wisdom Wikipedia

Andre Wisdom Transfer Markt Page

Andre Wisdom You Tube Highlights

Andre Wisdom First West Brom Interview

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  1. Saniul
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    11 years, 4 months ago

    Why are so many people concerned about Courtois' gametime?

    Well Cech is there, but a lot of big teams have often gone with two big keepers, just that they don't rotate over a given competition. Cech can still play UCL and/or FA.

    The only question we should ask ourselves, do we expect Courtois to start as the Chelsea keeper in GW1? The answer, for me, is yes.

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    1. Billy Gilmore
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      The fact that you even have to ask that question is why people are concerned.

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    2. Les Bleus
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      We shouldn't be concerned about his gametime but you're concerned about him starting GW1? Err...

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  2. Super PVA - Small Spuds
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    You. Yes, you. I'm sick of your RMTs. Why?

    1. Because it conforms to everyone elses team.
    2. You're gonna change it at least ten times before 16 August anywho, so what's the point?

    Please add something to this forum that is of genuine interest...

    There should be a limit or ban or RMT until at least a week before the season kicks of...

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    1. Heels_Over_Head
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      a week before the season starts, there will be so many RMTs on here that it will be impossible to have any conversation as the pages fly by

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      1. tw
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        just wait til the last few hours before the deadline! 😀

        p.s. if you're on here around then as the pages fly by, check some of the previous posts 😉

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    2. Bubz
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      Your first post was 22 hours ago and was this:

      "How do I get a grav please?"

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      1. A.T
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        Lol

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      2. Sly Fly
        • 16 Years
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        At least it wasn't an RMT I guess... 🙂

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      3. Super PVA - Small Spuds
        • 12 Years
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        Alright Bubz. I didnt know how to get a grav - don't see how that's relevant though. That was first post this season? Posted last two seasons...

        Plus my rankings aint too shabby.

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        1. Bubz
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          Just sayin', you can't really show up and start demanding that people "add something to this forum that is of genuine interest" when you haven't done so yourself. If you have in the past, I apologise.

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  3. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    Mohamed Besic joins Everton on a 5 year deal

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    1. Gazza2000
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Who's that ?

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    2. Dr Dream
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      On the anniversary of the outbreak of the First World War as well...Mohamed Basic was the person who was supposed to shoot the Archduke Ferdinand...how odd...

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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        Erm didn't Gabriello Princip shoot Archduke Franz Ferdinand?

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        1. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
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          Yes he did...Basic was supposed to do it but he bottled out when the motorcade passed...

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
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            I see

            Get everything on this site, fantasty football tips and an education

            http://www.history101.com

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            1. Dr Dream
              • 13 Years
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              Yeah...there was six assassins en route that day...He was doomed.

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        2. Somalion
          • 15 Years
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          Muhamed Mehmedbasic, one of the members of the Black Hand that was supposed to bomb the motorcade but he bottled it.

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        3. Honeybadger
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          Gavriel

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    3. A.T
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      DM, not good for fpl

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  4. ManTree(v2!) or just JAY!
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    Chambers @ 4.5m for Arsenal - no brainer?

    is he nailed on?

    assume so?

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    1. The Machine
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      Yup, on penos too

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      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
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        Talk of him being OOP playing in a front three too.

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    2. CostaCoffee
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      They have Debuchy .....

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    3. Bielsa's Bucket
      • 14 Years
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      Debuchy and Gibbs on right and left. Chambers and Monreal are second choices / rotation.

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    4. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
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      Half a bowment...

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  5. Takun
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    Sky Sports News: Hull City's 3 million pounds bid for Carl Jenkinson has been accepted by Arsenal.

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  6. Flicka
    • 12 Years
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    Nobody taking a punt on Andreas Weinmann? Scored 106 and 105 the last two seasons. At 5.5, that's consistency you like from a third forward who is (likely) not to play much for you. Has looked good this preseason. I see people taking punts on Crouch (scored similarly to Weinmann but costs 0.5 more) and Austin (no EPL track record).

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
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      On my cheap list

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    2. chrisjdgrady
      • 12 Years
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      Yep thinking about him for my cheap forward

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    3. Shifty
      • 12 Years
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      yep, in my thoughts. him and naismith as cheap 3rd striker.

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    4. money face bandwagon
      • 12 Years
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      austin is not really a punt..penalty taker nailed on good fixtures

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  7. tw
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    at this rate, Southampton will be able to afford Ronaldo by the end of the summer 😆

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    1. Sir_Dunc
      • 14 Years
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      I think they're pulling out of the PL and forming a 5-a-side team.

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      1. Exilizer
        • 12 Years
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        Haha, made my day thanks!

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    2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      He's coming to Utd.

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    3. Epic Fail
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      They'll be able to buy him, but not pay his wages for longer than 4 days. 😉

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  8. Make United Great Again
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    The Southampton selling definitely hasn't stopped.

    I think J Rod or Morgan.S will leave 😀

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    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
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      Don't smile about it 🙁

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      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
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        Well said man, well said.

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    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
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      JRod won't go anywhere this window. He's injured till ~October

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      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
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        A mere two months to put himself in the shop window, In all seriousness though it must be awful coming back to find the squad decimated.

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      2. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        BBC Sport and other reliable sources suggest otherwise. JRod and Schneiderlin are close to deals.

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    3. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
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      Why are people so gleeful about our plight? The idea of a 'football community' is a load of rubbish.

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      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
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        It is terrible, I'm sure if this happened to United, Arsenal or Liverpool the pages would be filled with nothing but broken-hearted comments.

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        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          And it'd be the worst thing to ever happen. But because the big boys are benefitting from our implosion, they don't give a ****.

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      2. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
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        You can't get like that about it. I guarantee you there were people you know who laughed at Portsmouth when they imploded ( I wasn't one of those who revelled in their downfall) it's the nature of the football fan, generally not forgiving, sympathetic or empathetic and very fickle

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        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
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          I was gutted when Pompey imploded. Every club needs a genuine rival!

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          1. SouthCoastSaint
            • 14 Years
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            Good! More fans should have had that attitude at the time!

            Hopefully we get some sort of statement but I doubt it will come

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            1. Lucy.
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              About what? Reed made those comments about signings coming? I'm expecting three or four 8-10m signings and that'll be our lot.

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  9. The Machine
    • 12 Years
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    Anyone up from a small "complete the sequence" to deviate from all the madness? 😛

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    1. Ginkapo FPL
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      NO NO NO NO NO NO NO No NO ....

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      1. The Machine
        • 12 Years
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        🙁 ok

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Go watch some vicar of dibley

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      2. Tommytour
        • 15 Years
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        ......yes 😉

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    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Here's one for you:

      Nani, Valencia, Lescott, ..........., RvP

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      1. The Machine
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        Nasri?

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          1. The Machine
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Nasri scored the city's final goal of 2012 community shield in 3-2 victory?

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            1. SW6
              • 13 Years
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              Torres. FGS in the Commiunity shields

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              1. The Machine
                • 12 Years
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                Ahh ok. got the idea correct though 😉

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      2. The Abyss
        • 12 Years
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        Chicken tikka?

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  10. FFS Bryan
    • 11 Years
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    Arteta @5.5m is a funny one. He is not that involved in the last 3rd, but unless they sign someone he should be a nailed on starter in a "decent" team.

    The BP system would appear to suit him this year, with the amount of passes he makes and his pass success rate above 90% on average. He is pretty reliant on set pieces, especially penalties. If he scores, he looks good for bonus points. Last season he did poorly, but most seasons he seems to average around the 130 ish point mark.

    A dull choice perhaps. On the other hand, maybe a good enabler option if your looking to fit in a few big names up top and are looking for some cheap as chips midfielders with potential to score a decent if not remarkable haul. (Siggy, Snodgrass, Shelvey and Arteta fall around this mark)

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    1. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
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      Arteta's a poor pick.

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    2. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
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      A nice argument for a crap pick. 😀

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      1. FFS Bryan
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        You get what you pay for 😛

        If a 5.5-.6.5m mid option gets around 130 points, it is happy days if the money saved goes to good use.

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    3. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      *IF* he is nailed on it's great value.

      Any stating attacker for a Top 4 side should be viewed as such...

      Especially if he's responsible for spot kicks.

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  11. A.T
    • 15 Years
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    What's the choice of 4.5 mids at the mo? I'm on Albrighton.

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    1. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      marney being overlooked for me

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      1. d1sable
        • Has Moderation Rights
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Tell me more about him if you would.

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        1. MJ6987
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Card magnet

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    2. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      You are correct

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    3. d1sable
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 4 months ago

      On Tiote for now because he will play, not happy about it though lol.

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      1. Mavric Marco
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Cheick yo self before you reck yo self 😉

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    4. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Albrighton started for Leicester yesterday in a strong looking line up. Keep monitoring pre-season but at the moment he looks the best of a bad bunch

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    5. Blue Lion
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      W

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    6. Ben Mee Over A Table
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Try to pick someone with lower ownership to avoid a price drop if there is a mass exodus.

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  12. The Sarjeant
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    Feeling close to happy with my team finally! 🙂

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    1. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Enjoy it while it lasts

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      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
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        Probably less than an hour 😉

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        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
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          Optimistic 😉

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        2. The Sarjeant
          • 12 Years
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          Haha! Yeah! Already doing some tinkering in my head lol.

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    2. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Remember, this time - SAVE A COPY.

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      1. The Sarjeant
        • 12 Years
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        I'll screenshot it 😉

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        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
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          Wise move. Now wait for your computer to be filled with screenshots. 😉

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          1. The Sarjeant
            • 12 Years
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            I always use my phone lol. Still have a picture of my first draft so I can kick myself a few weeks into the season 😆

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  13. CostaCoffee
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    No

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    1. CostaCoffee
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      Reply fail

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    2. MITHRRANDIRR
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      Top of the page 😆

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      1. BeachBadger
        • 12 Years
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        😆

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  14. FPL Daniel
    • 16 Years
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    Clear cut choice in which I am struggling atm.

    Mata or
    Fabregas?

    And reasons if possible. Thanks

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    1. Sir_Dunc
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      Mata - proven PL performer. Will likely start in a more advanced position than Fabregas. Less competition for his position. We don't know how Fabregas will settle at Chelsea.

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      1. Sir_Dunc
        • 14 Years
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        and I think Man U will score more goals than Chelsea with a front two.

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      2. tw
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        Fabregas is a proven PL performer

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        1. Sir_Dunc
          • 14 Years
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          Noone is proven when they arrive at a new club imo

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    2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
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      Mata - fixtures. Probably more offensive position.

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    3. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
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      Mata... More advanced role

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    4. The Mandalorian
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Mata edges it on fixtures

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    5. Bastien
      • 13 Years
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      Mata for the medium term run. Fixtures + No Europe + Position

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    6. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Mata. Playing in the number 10 role with Roon & RVP to feed. Say no more

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    7. Mr Chadwick
      • 11 Years
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      I have both, but if I had to choose one... Mata. He is essential as far as I am concerned. No Champions League to worry about, and pretty assured of game time. He has Rooney and Van Persie to supply so plenty of assists, he will be the most advanced midfielder so pretty much guarenteed goals and bonus points too.

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      1. FPL Daniel
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks all. It is so difficult as Chelsea fan to transfer him out, especially seeing him having good game and assist in the Olympia game.

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  15. Az
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    • 16 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Vermaelen can come to Utd now.

    Hooray!

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    1. The Machine
      • 12 Years
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      Not until we sign a recognized center back

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    2. Bøwstring The Carp
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      Vlaar* 😉

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    3. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      What have I missed that made you post this comment?

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      1. thegaffer82
        • 14 Years
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        Oh- the Callum Chambers transfer 🙂

        Hope it pushes the Verm trannie through

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  16. Gargamel
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    Do we have anybody tripling up on defenders? I think there is a reasonable case to be made for three Chelsea defenders with their attacking threats and Mourinho's ability to get defenders to perform well and back home when he wants to.

    Drawback is obviously that you can't get any of their midfielders then but there are plenty of sweet options to be had there anyway I think.

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      • 12 Years
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      that's a lot of cash though, 3x chels def - so you wont be able to afford too many stellar mids from elsewhere anyway.

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      1. Gargamel
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        11 years, 4 months ago

        If you're content with just one premium striker you can fit in three expensive midfielders too, but if you want two really big guns up front then yeah it's a problem.

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
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          double up is enough for me Garg, even toying with just 1 now

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          fair point. I like my money spent on attackers personally. 🙂 but I guess it could work if you get the right three.

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    1. A.T
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      I'm thinking of doubling up.

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      1. Jimbo123
        • 15 Years
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        This.

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    2. d1sable
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      11 years, 4 months ago

      I have two currently, would consider three if i knew which 3 would play every game.

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Yes there are some doubts on here about the gametime of Filipe Luis but I'm pretty confident in him personally.

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      triple Chelsea when there is so much value in defence with the likes of Debuchy, Davies etc seems mad to me

      Not the season for doing a Tosey

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
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        I like those two as well but I probably think Luis for example will be worth the extra 1m over Ben Davies. Would think there are a fair few cleanies more to be had for Chelsea.

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        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
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          i looked at Chelseas PL scores Pre and Post Matics' arrival and their clean sheets went from 35% Pre Matic. to. 53%. Post Matic so

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          1. Gargamel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
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            53% is pretty sweet!

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            1. GREENDREAMS11
              • 16 Years
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              yeah, it is, some tricky games too. The reason I checked this is that they seemed a completely different team after he arrived. One of the best signings last year imo.

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    4. Lucy.
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      Waaaay too expensive.

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    5. Tibidabo
      • 13 Years
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      Which 3 chelsea defenders would you pick?

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      1. Gargamel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Terry, Cahill and Filipe Luis

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    6. Gregor
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      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      They are quite expensive.

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  17. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
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    would anyone consider taking Baines now?

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    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
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      Might actually be a good differential now but only if he produces from from season before last

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      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
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        This. Probably had his worst season for Everton last year. That said he didn't do too bad.

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    2. A.T
      • 15 Years
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      Nope

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    3. Bielsa's Bucket
      • 14 Years
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      Too much £

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      1. OShaughnessy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Too expensive?

        Check into something for me...

        Tell me how many midfielders & strikers outscored Baines last year?

        Now, how check to see how many of them were *less* expensive than Baines?

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        1. penguinsofdeath
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Same debate every season

          It's not as simple as that, its how it affects your squad...

          For example a 7m mid and 5m def would probably score better than a 7m def and 5m mid

          Each to their own though

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          1. OShaughnessy
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            "7m mid and 5m def would probably score better than a 7m def and 5m mid" is simply a false premise.

            We just don't select players in a vacuum like this.

            There's far more to it...

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            1. penguinsofdeath
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              Not really, its about building a team/squad so you've got to try and maximise the points you'll get from every £ of the 100m

              So its about working a combination of players to maximise return and in most cases I would prefer to gamble on a cheaper defender and upgrade my midfield

              Yes Baines scored 202 points last season but there are players that got 180 points priced at just 5mil (and they were cheaper last season)

              There is no 'right way' it is all done to preference

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              1. OShaughnessy
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                11 years, 4 months ago

                Not sure which game you're playing?

                Baines had 169pts last year in the FPL & no 5mil defender came close to that total. (Perhaps Coleman but, I though he was 5.5/6mil to start the year?)

                Anyway, that's neither here nor there...

                You gave me one scenario: £7 mid + £5 def > £7 def + £5 mid & nothing you've said changes the fact that it's a false premise.
                We just dont select players in pairs like this.

                In fact, you've only strengthen my position by stating that we work "a combination of players to maximise [our] return".

                So the fact remains, Baines has been a perennial Top 10 FPL scorer & as a result gives us a spectular return on our £7mil *investment*.

                To close, if you feel your combination should not include Baines... fine.
                We'll just agree to disagree on his worth.

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      2. Bielsa's Bucket
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Too much £

        ... for me, I'd rather spend it else where in my squad

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    4. roscola
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      £££ + horror-show fixtures + Europa = not for me

      GW8, maybe. But probably not.

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      1. OShaughnessy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        GW8 is a good time to target him... Home matches to Arsenal & Chelsea in the first 4 don't bode well for him.

        Although, with a goal v. United & a clean sheet v. Chelsea last year he truly is fixture proof...

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    5. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      there's your differential then.

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    6. Winston.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      later...yes

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  18. HVT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    I think we should create a new word in honour of Bow ,
    As it was a bad moment for him I think we should shorten it up to Bowment,
    He deserves this after such a gaffe that has brought incredulous laughter to most on here!
    🙂
    Bow you've certainly topped my Higuain moment brother!
    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2014/07/26/moving-target-steven-caulker-2/?hc_page=19#hc_comment_7667473

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      😀

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  19. FFS Bryan
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Enrique at Liverpool could be an interesting option this year at 5m, providing no new LB is purchased (and he proves his fitness!).

    Last year was a mess at the back, but the team was accommodating two strikers and a pretty unsettled backline. Lovren should do a job at the back.

    Considering the season before when Liverpool mainly played with one striker, they were one of the tightest teams at the back and when Rodgers managed Swansea they were sound defensively. Simerly at the beginning of last season when Suarez was out, the team did alright at the back, despite Toure playing 😛

    Enrique also carries some threat going forward. Remains to see how he fits into Rodgers plan after a season out, but barring a new signing, i'd expect him to start over Flanagan.

    One to monitor anyways as Liverpool transition to life without Suarez.

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    1. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      he's great going forward. reckon liverpool would have won the league if they had enrique for the season

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      1. Licky
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        No, we would have lost it by more points, he isn't great going forward but he is so bad defensively it is unreal, and he doesn't listen to other players which he should, that's why I suspect he'll be moved on.

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    2. Hanso Lo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      True...but that defense was so bad last time out. Perhaps a "wait and see" scenario?

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      1. FFS Bryan
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I think a variety of factors played a part last season. But i'd certainly understand a wait and see policy with those fixtures! 🙂

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      2. OShaughnessy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Their defence wasn't so much bad as unlucky?

        Liverpool were in the Top 5 of the league for limiting their opponents shots in the area.

        They were done in errors which resulted in a goal. 'Pool had 42 errors which lead on 13 goals.

        If this were even reduced by ½, then Liverpool would by on par with the likes of Arsenal for goals conceded for the year.

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        1. FFS Bryan
          • 11 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Allot of individual errors last season. They were pretty exposed at times.

          Individually, good players for the most part. But it did not click last season. Lovren leadership should help and a settled side, +Sakho settling in.

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    3. A.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Enrique's problem is that he doesnt listen to anyone and just does his own thing.
      He marauds forward when he feels like it, and inevitably gives the ball away.

      Defensively he is suspect, and when tackling he usually uses his upper body strength to push opponents off the ball when he's tracking back, when he bothers, often conceding free kicks.

      He's quick and strong, but not good enough to start.
      Flanagan is definitely ahead of Enrique in the pecking order for LB.

      I expect Liverpool's defence to tighten up next season, partly because of the improvement brought by Lovren, and partly because we can no longer rely on simply outscoring opponents. The trio of 1-0 wins at the start of last season while Suarez was out are more likely. The defence could well be a good option, but I'm steering clear for the first 3 fixtures at least.

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      1. FFS Bryan
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Not sure i'd agree on Flanagan ahead of Enrique in the pecking order. Flan played last year because Enrique was crocked.

        Going forward, he is better then Flanagan. Whilst he has his brainfart moments at the back, he has the pace and strength to recover (sometimes :P).

        I think for now he is the more rounded player then Flanagan and he is left footed.

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        1. A.
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Obviously Enrique was ahead of Flanagan in the pecking order for LB last year, but his injury and Cissokho's terribleness gave Flanno a chance, which he took. He is still better defensively than Enrique.

          Ideally we will sign a new LB to start, let Johnson go, and play Flanagan at RB

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          1. FFS Bryan
            • 11 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            As a pool fan myself, we can only hope! 🙂

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  20. Van Dal
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    I wouldnt stress yourself with researching players and stats and RMT's etc. Just come on here a day or two before deadline and copy a good team.

    Simples 🙂

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    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Isn't it more fun picking your own?

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      1. Van Dal
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Whoosh.

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  21. Saniul
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Will the last player to leave St Mary's please turn the lights out?

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Jay Rodriguez returning to St. Mary's from injury

      http://img.4plebs.org/boards/tg/image/1399/45/1399451785250.jpg

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      1. Saniul
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        😆

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    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Koeman just standing there alone in the darkness with Nathaniel Clyne and a flat football.

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      1. Irish Madridista ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        "Welcome to Liverpool Training grounds 2014-15"

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      2. Saniul
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Last summer I remember, Clyne was the only footballer who was getting linked to random clubs.

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  22. Richd
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Hey guys, why the hell do you think that Van Gaal will play Rooney when he didn't even choose him for the World Cup XI ?!

    I'm going RVP for sure.

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    1. A.
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Too soon

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  23. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Anymore to leave southampton? Would be very suprised to see anymore leave to be honest, they are struggling for numbers as it is.

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    1. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      They've announced a bunch of 5-a-side friendlies for next week

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        😀

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      2. wedgec
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        They could just play Blackpool!

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    2. Le Saux Solid Crew
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Jay Rodriguez must feel so left out right now though.

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      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I feel so sorry for JRod.

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    3. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Wouldnt be surprised if Schneiderlin and Fonte sod off too

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Hope they take Michu with them.

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    4. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I can see Matthew Le Tissier moving on soon.

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    5. TokyoRed 東京赤
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Like having four new teams in the division

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    6. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I can't ever remember a club that isn't in financial difficulty selling so many key players, even the up and coming ones like Chambers

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    7. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Boruc still there? HEs a decent player

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      1. Defcons are for Kinnear
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Why does everyone overlook Hoovield?

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Jos 'own goal' Hooiveld?

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          1. Defcons are for Kinnear
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            And Yoshida

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            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              A better option but at some point Saints revolving door has to start swinging the other way

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            2. SouthCoastSaint
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              Because they are championship defenders...

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              1. Lucy.
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 4 months ago

                This.

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              2. Debauchy
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 4 months ago

                Hey Saint. Best Buddy in SA a Saints supporter ( Dad from SHamp) Hard times - Never seen anything like this. Hope they can hang in this season and climb again. Seems like new owner is needed though ?

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                1. SouthCoastSaint
                  • 14 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  A lot going on behind the scenes. Will be content to stay up this year for sure

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  24. OShaughnessy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Out of curiosity, if Van Gaal selected Vlaar ahead of Maradona in the World CUp and got a 3rd place finish (with outstanding performances from Vlaar), why do we think Maradona is more likely to go to Arsenal?

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    1. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      😉

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    2. KujaliaFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      And by Maradona, he means Vermaelen. 🙂

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      1. OShaughnessy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Vermaelen has been a stalwart of the Danish backline for years Van Gaal would be daft to overlook him...

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    3. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      🙂

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  25. A.
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Seeing as there's a few Saints fans around, can anyone give me an opinion on Ward-Prowse?

    I really like him as a player, he looked very composed and mature when he got his chance last season, do you see him nailing down a place in the lineup considering the departures?
    If so, where? I was under the impression he's more of an attacking midfielder/winger, but do you think his future lies as a deeper CM?

    Currently he's my first choice when looking for a £5m midfielder

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    1. SouthCoastSaint
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      If schneiderlin goes he's 100% in my team. He'll be nailed on for all set pieces I would have thought.

      His preferred role is central midfield.

      Koeman likes a 4 3 3 but I really wouldn't say anything definitive until our transfer dealings are done.

      Ramirez should be considered at 5.5 if he can settle

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      1. SouthCoastSaint
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        *share set pieces with Tadic having read the scouts set piece section!!

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    2. The_Colonel
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      RM. His best asset is his great set-piece but I think Tadic will be taking all of them

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  26. The Sarjeant
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    OMG! 😆

    This Vine from the World Cup has got me in hysterics!

    https://vine.co/v/MTzDUlh9i0D

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      😀

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    2. mipola
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      😀

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  27. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone want me to research anything over the next 24 hours?

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    1. tw
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      the cure to cancer 😉

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      1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Leave it with me. If I solve it, I better get hulked.

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      2. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        42

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    2. gravless
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      The origins of life on earth please.

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      1. TokyoRed 東京赤
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Don't waste it on this, who will be top-scoring midfielder this season?

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    3. Bielsa's Bucket
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Do I take my date to an off the beat cocktail bar where I can get 241 cocktails all night or on a romantic walk / talk along the Thames which always works.
      Please investigate the one which will provide most copula towards end of such encounters.

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      1. Bielsa's Bucket
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I have already picked 241 cocktails has I've got a bruised coccyx and don't fancy walking.

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      2. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Could be fun. I'll do some trial and error.

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      3. TokyoRed 東京赤
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Just don't wear the Vadar helmet

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      4. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Why are cocktails called cocktails? Doesn't seem right.

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        1. Bubz
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Because they help your cock get some tail

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          1. Bielsa's Bucket
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Awwwwww yeeeaaaaahhh...

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    4. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I would like to know on average, how RMT's there per page since FPL opened.

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        *many *are

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        1. Poseidon. Not arrogant, jus…
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          This is the leading suggestion so far.

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          1. Jafooli
            • 13 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Jafooli 1pt 😎

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    5. Dr Dream
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Aye..ok...How many 4.0 picks usually become available as medium term picks per season...and if you want to be really clever...How do they tend to work out....?...doable ?

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      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Being as we are all stuck until one comes along...

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  28. Saniul
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Am I the only one who has a 5.0 midfielder as his fifth mid?

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    1. Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I was pondering it if Assaidi goes to Stoke or if Brady looks like worming his way into Hull's starting 11

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    2. thegaffer82
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Yes, just you out of 3 million odd people 😉

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      1. gravless
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        525,000 at the moment.

        😉

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    3. HuttonDressedasLahm
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

      I seem to have brainwashed everybody into playing 3-5-2

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    4. Saint Steve-O (@EliteFPL)
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I have two, Ince & Arfield

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  29. Pablitto
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    My first post this summer - may I ask you to RMT please:

    Mannone (4K GK - Myhil maybe)

    Demichelis Vlaar Bruce (Saylor Duff)

    Yaya Erikssen Ramsey Siggy (Lucas)

    Sturidge Rooney Bony

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    1. Saniul
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I read Siggy as saggy, not my fault.

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    2. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I applaud you for it being a little different (despite the now contracted presence of Siggy). I love your attack if Bony stays and the defence is fine. Keeper is risky though as Mannone could be rotated with Pantelimon and you have no cash for a reserve. Also Lucas will literally score nothing, can you use that money to buy maybe a Burnley player (marley/arfield) who will at least play and get the odd goal.

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    3. Cristi@no R7
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Weak Defence...Downgrade Yaya >> Hazard/Fabregas & improve ur defence

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    4. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Lucas is my least favourite BPL player.

      Who's in your grav?

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    5. meltedman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      You're gonna be in major trouble once a flag or two comes along.

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  30. Wivanee
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Tadic or Eriksen??

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    1. 0thebrodie
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Eriksen

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    2. The_Colonel
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Eriksen for me

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    3. @FPLMason
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Eriksen with ease

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    4. Willis.
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Tadic no-brainer

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