634x258 Moving Target
28 July 2014 4675 comments
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Having plundered Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana from Southampton earlier this summer, Brendan Rodgers returned to the St Mary’s club for the third time in order to acquire centre-half Dejan Lovren. The 25-year-old arrives at Anfield for a reported £20m and is Rodgers’ fifth signing of the close-season, with Lazar Markovic and Emre Can also making their way to Merseyside:

Discussing the move with the club’s official website, the Reds boss admitted the Croatian’s organisational skills will be crucial for the campaign ahead:

“This is a very important signing for us and I’m delighted it’s completed so Dejan can join up with us on our US tour. I think he’s a really commanding centre-half. I’ve said since we lost Jamie Carragher that we needed that leadership. He’s a player that gives us that. He’s very strong, very commanding, but he can play. I’ve been really impressed with him. I watched him at Lyon, he came into the Premier League with Southampton and I know their players thought he was a big driving force for them and kept them defensively solid. I think he’s a player that can still improve, still develop as he’s in his mid-20s. He’s someone I’m really looking forward to working with.”

The History

A product of the NK Karlovac youth system, Lovren was snapped up by Dinamo Zagreb back in 2004. The defender was handed his senior debut as a 16-year-old a couple of years later before being loaned out to Croatian club Inter Zaprešić – over a couple of seasons, he became a first-team regular and scored once in 50 league outings.

After returning to his parent club for the start of the 2008/09 campaign, Lovren racked up 36 appearances over the next season-and-a-half before being acquired by Lyon midway through the 2009-10 season for €8 million. Spending four years with the Ligue 1 outfit, the Croatian gradually established himself as a key figure at the back and registered two goals and a pair of assists over 72 appearances.

Signed by Southampton boss Mauricio Pochettino last June, the centre-half turned out 31 times, scoring on a couple of occasions, with his displays proving fundamental to a run of 15 clean sheets over 2013/14.

On the international scene, Lovren has represented his country from Under-17 to Under-21 level on a total of 55 occasions, scoring six times. The centre-half has also notched twice in 21 appearances for the senior side and played all three group games in the recent World Cup.

The Prospects

Liverpool’s free-scoring side may have earned plenty of plaudits and Fantasy investment after racking up 101 goals in the season gone by, but a series of poor defensive displays ultimately proved their undoing. Rodgers’ side came within two points of the title in spite of a backline that conceded 50 times over 2013/14 – only 14 goals fewer than rivals City (37) and Chelsea (27) combined – and mustered a mere 10 clean sheets over the entire campaign.

Clearly, the Merseysiders need improving at the back if they are to maintain their momentum and Lovren’s acquisition certainly looks a step in the right direction. Having splashed the cash and cited the Croatian’s leadership skills, Rodgers sees the new boy as vital to his plans, and with starts looking guaranteed, it leaves Daniel Agger, Martin Skrtel and Mamadou Sakho vying for the remaining central defensive berth if, as expected, Liverpool operate with a four-man back-line again. Whilst Skrtel’s seven goals last term underline his capabilities in the opponents’ box, there’s every chance that Sakho could be set to partner the new boy, bearing in mind that Rodgers forked out £15m for the Frenchman’s services this time last year.

Priced at 5.5 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL) and 6.3 in the Sky Sports game, Lovren is already the seventh most popular defender in the former game, with an ownership of 16% and rising. Granted, full-back pair Jon Flanagan and Jose Enrique are cheaper at 5.0 apiece and, if either can nail down a regular role this term, they could provide better value than the Croatian but for now, with Skrtel and 6.0 and both Agger and Sakho at 5.5, Lovren certainly seems the safest option for those willing to take a punt on Rodgers’ defence.

Having conceded 93 goals in two seasons under Rodgers, though, it’s fair to say Liverpool are hardly deserving of such lofty price-tags at the back. Bearing in mind that the likes of Mathieu Debuchy is similarly priced and offers a route into an Arsenal defence with 17 clean sheets last term, and Tottenham new boy Ben Davies, at 5.0, will be hoping to benefit from Pochettino’s installation at Spurs, there could well be better value found elsewhere.

Whilst there’s hope that Lovren’s arrival may just be the catalyst for a turnaround in defensive fortunes for the Mersysiders, trips to City and Spurs in the first three fixtures may convince many to steer clear initially. One look at the schedule from Gameweek 4, when Liverpool face four kind home matches (AVL, EVE, WBA, HUL) and trips to West Ham and QPR in the subsequent six, suggests that if Lovren’s installation makes the difference, we could start to reconsider Liverpool’s defence once again.

Further Reference

Dejan Lovren Wikipedia

Dejan Lovren Transfer Markt Page

Dejan Lovren You Tube 2013/14 Highlights

Dejan Lovren First Liverpool Interview

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  1. VT9
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Any thoughts on Herrera? Has had a fairly solid pre-season. I currently have Tadic but with the Southampton situation, it seems as if the club as a whole will have a fair mediocre season.

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  2. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    @Innsie: Even I'm thinking of getting Caulker in...which team is rotating best with QPR? have 5.5m to spend..but this would mean not owning a Chelsea Defender...

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    1. Christina.
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      CP

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      1. Christina.
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        ...but you need a Chelsea defender.

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        1. Moin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          need it right? so no Caulker...Luis it is then..

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      2. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I'm going with a CP/Stoke combo in GK

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        1. Christina.
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Nah, to exp. Pick one.

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          1. Moin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            so Begovic till Jan WC looks good?

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    2. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Palace. Get rid of Speroni in goal, 10m is too much for your GKs.

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      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        CP/Stoke go so well...I won't change my keepers till Jan WC...

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        1. President John F. Keninnsie
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          CP/QPR go even better 😉

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          1. Moin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
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            haha

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      2. Christina.
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        You sitting with the *Million Dollar Man upfront?

        *Austin

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        1. President John F. Keninnsie
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Currently yeah.

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          1. Christina.
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            He is such an awkward price.

            There are no one really in the 6m bracket I fancy. Other than Crouch of course.

            *cough cough

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            1. Christina.
              • 15 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              It makes me think DDG is not worth it.

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            2. Moin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              Ideye

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              1. President John F. Keninnsie
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 4 months ago

                There is no way you will convince me to get a WBA player in my team.

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                1. KujaliaFC
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  You need some Wisdom. He's only 4 ducats!

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            3. Billy Gilmore
              • 13 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              lol

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            4. President John F. Keninnsie
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              I know what you mean...

              In my team, it kinda comes down to:
              Austin and Mata
              Or
              Bony and Arnie.

              1 weak player out of my starting 11 is acceptable though 😉

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    3. AppleDunk
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I am doing Palace-WBA-Stoke combo if that helps.

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      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        I'm going pretty expensive in defence..thanks! I will check this combo as well

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  3. Up the Boro
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    morning all,

    could I get some of your valuable input please, not sure whether I'm going in the right direction

    DDG / Elliott
    Cahill / Cameron / Wisdom / Figueroa / Vlaar
    Hazard / Sanchez / Snodgras / Siggy / Davis
    RVP / Rooney / Jelavic

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    1. Saniul
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I do not like your defence at all.
      Apart from Cahill and Vlaar, all the others are very big rotation risks, and also, Vlaar has really terrible fixtures.

      Up front, not seen many with Rooney and RVP but that could very well reap dividends. However, having Sturridge or Costa will spread the risk

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      1. Up the Boro
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        thank you, not sure which way to go at the back, pretty set on my front 8 though.....any suggestions?

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        1. Saniul
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Get Simpson for Vlaar, Rosenior for Figueroa, Pieters for Cameron. Gets you at least 3 nailed-on defenders.

          As for the 4.0 defender, wait till the last day if you want an indication of who you want to start.

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I don't like Tesco value strikers but overall I can see that team bringing in the points.

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      1. Up the Boro
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        thanks, I hope so!!

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  4. Saniul
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    I just realised it now ...
    Why had I gone for Ferdinand, who is a risk, when I could just get Simpson for the same price.

    Copy that. 😉

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    1. Blue Lion
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Been there..done that..now hovering over Caulker...

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      1. Saniul
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Why, exactly? You would get a Stoke 5.0 defender, with nobody available for 4.5.

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        1. Blue Lion
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Hopefully Caneron @ 4.5

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          1. Saniul
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Too much risk about him IMO.

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            1. JuveGeordie
              • 11 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              Coloccini - new points system, he'll do great

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  5. Blue Lion
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Who takes set pieces for QPR and how good is he?
    Just wanted to know if it will help Caulker.

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    1. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      barton, decent.

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    2. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Doesn't matter. Caulker will still score 😉

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      1. Blue Lion
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        😀

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    3. Saniul
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Joey Barton, if I'm not wrong.

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    4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Hahaha, i said yesterday "Joey Barton, why nolove for the man", it was not popular.....

      Check his fpl history, he is gold for 5m......

      Then you also get the pure excitment when he gets into a duel, anything ould happen

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  6. Pringle
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    So what do you prefer?

    A. Costa, Sanchez, Eriksen, Luis, Krul
    B. Giroud, Hazard, Fabregas, Terry/Cahill, DDG

    Both options cost the same

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      A

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    2. Walrus Eggs
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Can I mix and match? How about Costa, Fab, Eriksen, Terry, DDG

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      1. Pringle
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Interesting

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      2. Pringle
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Leaves me with no Arsenal. I dont know if I can handle that

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        1. Walrus Eggs
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Arsenal are a good team to wait and see on, IMO. The fixtures aren't especially good, and it's not clear to me where the points are.

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    3. Up the Boro
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      B

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    4. Pringle
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      What I want in my team is double Chelsea and United attack and one from from Arsenal and City. After alot of tinkering I think it is just option B that offers that even though its a bit boring

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  7. Shifty
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Not sure how heavy/light a defence to go with. But is this too heavy in mid? Tempting though

    Krul Elliot
    Azpil/Luis, Ward, Rosenior, 4.0, 4.0
    Sanchez Hazard Mata Eriksen Siggurdson
    Rooney Dzeko Weimann

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    1. RammyRhino
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Defense is too weak. But the dillemma becomes which mid to downgrade. I would downgrade mata myself, as this allows for a single player to represent the 6 top teams barring Liverpool.

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  8. Grounderz
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    RMT

    De Gea // Myhill
    Terry // Debuchy // Cameron // Wisdom // Duff
    Sanchez // Fabregas // Sigurdsson // de Jong // Albrighton
    Diego Costa // Rooney // Remy

    £0.5m in the bank

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    1. Panco55
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Use the remaining bank to upgrade Wisdom or Duff to a 4.5m who is guaranteed to play.

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  9. Saniul
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Jones or Evans, if I don't want Shaw?

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    1. Up the Boro
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I don't rate him at all, but probably Jones, every manager seems to find a place for him

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  10. Taffer
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Dilemma....

    A - Hazard / Siggy / Sanchez
    B - Fabregas / Nasri / Ramsey

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  11. Epic Fail
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Caulker (c)

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  12. Saniul
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Caulker for PFA Player Of The Year.

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    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Golden boot*

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      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        🙄

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        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          😀

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    2. Zep
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      You've taken that too far...

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  13. Christina.
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    😯

    I think i've just stumbled on IT...

    Bye

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    1. New Ghost
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      email yo 🙂

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    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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  14. President John F. Keninnsie
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Caulker for Golden Boot.

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  15. Blue Lion
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Upson Garbutt.
    lol

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    1. Blue Lion
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I swear i did not count!

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  16. lachyas
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Made some changes, what do you guys think of this?

    DDG / Myhill
    Davies / Ferdinand / Cameron / Mariappa / Coloccini
    Hazard / Sanchez / Mata / Siggy / Albrighton
    Rooney / Giroud / Bony

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  17. Dangerous Dave
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    I think I've got an absolutely cracking team. Beat that.

    Krul - Given

    Coloccini - Wisdom - O'Shea - Taylor - Cameron (all used & rotated)

    Fabregas - Sterling - Siggy - Mata - Wanyama

    Costa - Rooney - Sturridge.

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  18. Honeybadger
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    I am going for DJ, whatever some Ajax fan said. He has a great shot, good passing, great movement and may even be pushed up at a forward position. No-brainer for me really!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yW9uLXg0fX0

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    1. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I was thinking the same a week ago, but now I'm not sure. People say he doesn't do much, and I found better players I think

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    2. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      That just reminded me how amateurish the defending is in the Eredivisie.

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  19. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Why is Caulker only 5.0m? Was it just an oversight by FPL?

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    1. Saniul
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Ballon d'Or material.

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    2. Blue Lion
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      They did not envision he would move.

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      1. Billy Gilmore
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        He was added after he moved 😉

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        1. Blue Lion
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Dummett!

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  20. Saniul
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Nyah, I'm not getting Sterling. Two hard fixtures in three weeks, I would rather get him in week 4.

    Courtois, Myhill,
    Jones/Evans, Pieters, Ward, Simpson, Taylor,
    Sanchez, Fabregas, Mata, Shelvey, Davis,
    Costa, Rooney, Jelavic.

    Looks like I'll settle with that for today, and the rest of the week. 😉

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    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      What's your gw2 transfer Saniul?

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      1. Saniul
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        It is so hard to predict like that, will probably catch some bandwagon. 😉

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    2. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      is pieters' place at risk from muniesa?

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      1. Saniul
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        No, Innsie was joking then.
        Pieters was absolutely bought to be first-team material, and I expect him to be like that. As he was last season.

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        1. President John F. Keninnsie
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Seriously though, Stoke fans think Muniesa will get more minutes this season.

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          1. Saniul
            • 12 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah? Seriously?
            Could you link me to something like that, I think I should know.

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            1. President John F. Keninnsie
              • 12 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              Someone linked it a few days ago. ShawX is the only nailed option in their back line apparently, I'll try find it.

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              1. Saniul
                • 12 Years
                11 years, 4 months ago

                Yeah, I might even try and look at Huth, then.

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                1. Kuqi Monster
                  • 15 Years
                  11 years, 4 months ago

                  http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/232694/muniesa

                  some quotes on muniesa:

                  "will be starting left back this season, I'd be very surprised if not"

                  "I can very much see him displacing Pieters,as he did towards the end of last season"

                  "I honestly think he will start the season left back. Him and Arnie seem a real threat together and link up well"

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        2. HVT
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          Bego
          Cameron , Shawx , Huth , Pieters
          IMHO.

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  21. President John F. Keninnsie
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Caulker's appearances for England: 1
    Caulker's goals for England: 1

    Enough said.

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    1. Saniul
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Number of times Caulker scored when he was in my team last year: 1
      Number of times Caulker scored when he was on my bench: 1

      Enough said.

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      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Always captain, never bench.

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    2. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      David Nugent did the same in March 2007,
      1 game, 1 Goal.

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  22. Solenya
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Who comes up with these Cavani to United nonsense. We have been changing our system to accommodate 2 of them why'd we want a 3rd fwd 😕

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Silly people who put 1 and 1 together and think Rooney won't fit LVG's system and that PSG are the only team who will want and afford Wayne Rooney.

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      1. Solenya
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Probably this but still flying around here and there, now that the mood around Rooney has changed.

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        1. Ryan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 4 months ago

          It seems Rooney fits LVG's system after all. People falsly assumed early on that LVG was just a 433 fan, the WC and recent comments suggests he's flexible with formations and will be using a 3412 formation early on.

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          1. Solenya
            • 14 Years
            11 years, 4 months ago

            Yes that's what LvG said but even when they thought that he'd play 433 and Rooney would be sold, still the Cavani rumours didn't make sense. How'd then fit Vp and Cavani in a 433 😀

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            1. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 4 months ago

              Good point. Just goes to show how illogical these rumours are.

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  23. President John F. Keninnsie
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Can someone please tell me who won the Football League Young Player of the Month in November 2010?

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    1. Saniul
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Not Caulker 😯

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      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Sure?

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    2. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      hahahahaha I think you very well know the Answer

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  24. Pringle
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Isnt this a pretty likely scenario?

    Down the line you are in desperate need of 0.5-1.0 and as goalie you have DDG from a team that is just as bad defensively as last year while Krul hustles savepoints and from time to time a cs which brings him to the top of the gk rank.

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  25. Blue Lion
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Defensive prospects of a Harry managed team?

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    1. Billy Gilmore
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      I think they're in for a real Caulker of a season, defensively.

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      1. Blue Lion
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Albrighton! Caulker it is!

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  26. Saniul
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    I wonder what Caulker would have priced in the Championship fantasy had he stayed back at Cardiff.

    Something like 12.5-13.0, guaranteed double figures every week.

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Atleast.

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      1. Saniul
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Even then, a bargain.
        But I think they would have listed him as a FOR. 😐

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    2. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Double figure goal tallies every week..

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      1. Saniul
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Triple figure point tallies 😯

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  27. FTL9
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    RMT:

    De Gea (Krul)
    Vlaar, Davies, Caulker (Wisdom, Taylor)
    Sterling, Siggy, Hazard, Eriksen, Sanchez
    Rooney (C), Dzeko (Naismith)

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      10/10.

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  28. bradbury1
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    De Gea
    Davies Debuchy Cahill
    Hazard Eriksen Mata Sigurdsson
    Giroud Rooney Dzeko

    Subs Myhill Cameron Albrighton Duff

    Think i finaly have a good balance to my squad... is there any other 4m defenders that have better game time than duff? and is there a better option to albrighton??

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  29. thegreathoudini
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Any chance of a quick RMT?

    De Gea / Myhill
    Cahill / Cameron / Mariappa / Davies / O'Shea
    Hazard / Sigurdsson / Ramsey / Yaya Touré / Albrighton
    Rooney / Dzeko / Jelavic

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  30. mranonymous
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 4 months ago

    Who is the best striker UNDER 8.5m?

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    1. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Caulker.

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      1. mranonymous
        • 11 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Absolute brilliance

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    2. Saniul
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Caulker.

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    3. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Soldado

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      1. jackx13
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 4 months ago

        Game time assured?

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    4. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Crouch

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    5. Solenya
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Judging from the talks above I'd have to say Caulker

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    6. Irish Madridista ⭐
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 4 months ago

      Remy, depends where he plays though

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