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14 August 2014 7186 comments
Mark Mark
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A new beginning. On the eve of a new campaign, two grumpy middle-aged has-beens gather in a studio to recall the summer’s feast of football and look ahead to another Fantasy season, full of hope.

There’s no frills. No live video cast. No special guests. Just Granville and I, stripped back and almost unplugged.

Don’t let that put you off, though. Even with our limited powers we at least attempt to cut through the issues currently rattling around in the minds of Fantasy managers.

We assess the Old Trafford revolution, the world without Suarez and the merits of the three-man strike force. We slice through the current transfer trends and weigh up matters such as the Sigurdsson/Bojan rotation, Fagregas vs Hazard and the Chelsea back four conundrum. We also manage to warm up with a nice little argument about the Alexis Sanchez bandwagon – the traditional pre-season barney.

Be there at the birth via this link, or witness the new dawn via the handy player below.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. SuperMario
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Good to go..........................?????

    De Gea // Myhill
    Pieters // PVA // Taylor // Moore // Hutton
    Hazard // Mata // Lamela // Ramsey // Siggy
    Costa // Rooney // Fletcher

    Any suggestions.....

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    1. SuperMario
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Is the defence too weak?

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      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Yes. Downgrade one of Fletcher or Sigurdsson to a 4.5 and upgrade the defence.

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    2. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      That defence is pretty poor the fact you have to play the same 3 every week isn't great.

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  2. CCaddy
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    What do you all think of mutchs prospects? Got 123 points in a relegated team last season. More than mata, coutinho and Barkley. Could he do better in a better team with players like remy and Austin around him?

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    1. SuperMario
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I like him but no room to fit him in...

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    2. Aston Villa-Boas
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      im starting with young, though I have my eye on him

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    3. Lazarus Star
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      He was the pick of Cardiff...just 0.5M too expensive for me to fit in.

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    4. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      You're forgetting Mata only played half a season since he was rotting on bench on the other half of the season at Chelsea.

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  3. Reeker
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Best Chelsea Defender Option?
    http://strawpoll.me/2343234

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    1. SuperMario
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      ha thats cool..

      Terry

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    2. Volk
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Terry

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    3. Reeker
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Terry was soaring ahead now it's all tied up between Cahill and Terry

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  4. Super Silva
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    How many games will chambers get ?

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    1. FISSH
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      who knows
      I think I am going to have him in my team and then replace with Mert when he is back

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    1. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Lucky he got 4, in any of the games come to think of it

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    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    I've got Terry and Phil Jones, and have 3x Chelsea and United.

    I've got £14m to spend on the other 3 defender places. Which is best?

    A) Play a premium every week... £6m - £4m - £4m

    B) Play a mid price with an occasional back up.... £5.5m - £4.5m - £4m

    C) Play a three-way rotation.... £5m - £4.5m - £4.5m

    I know it's player-dependent, but what do you think? 🙂

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    1. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      i prefer c

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    2. Lazarus Star
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      D) 5, 5, 4

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      1. Lazarus Star
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Personally B) I'd do Lovren, Chambers and Baird (its actually what I have)

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    3. Kip
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      that's one expensive defense you've got

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        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Chelsea and United defence are a must for me.

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    4. Brutus619
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      C with Clyne as your £5 m defender.

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      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      thanks all. interesting response. 🙂

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  5. Obi Wan Elokobi
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Thought I'd get a final RMT before the mayhem starts tomorrow. Ratings out of 10 also appreciated

    Begovic, (Krul)
    Caulker, Terry, PVA, (Clyne,Wisdom)
    Hazard, Eriksen, Hendo, Ramsey, (Siggy)
    Costa, Rooney, Bojan

    Cheers

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Rate me back.

      Very strong. 9.5.

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    2. Aston Villa-Boas
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      8/10

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    3. TEKKERS FC
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Good to go 9

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    4. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      its okay but too much value in the attacking player youll be benching

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    5. Hazard for Ballon D'or
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Allmost identical to mine.

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    6. FISSH
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      you may have benching issues, downgrade siggy or hendo and upgrade bojan?

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  6. t4thomas
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    15 Men 1 Cup

    Krul | Foster
    Terry | Caulker | Chester | Taylor | Wisdom
    Hazard | Ramsey | Eriksen | Young | Marney
    Rooney | Costa | Bony

    Chuffed with that.

    Any comments?

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    1. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Like it if Bony can stay at Swansea seriously considering him think Swansea signed quite well.

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    2. jernej93
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      What will you do with Young when Shaw is back? 🙂

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      1. t4thomas
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Panic.

        I would love to upgrade him for Hendo. Can't find the cash without scrapping Chester for Bruce, a Foster for Elliot or Bony for Jovetic (who has the same problem as Young).

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      2. spoonlord
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        isn't young playing RWB?
        Reece james is standing in at LWB
        Valencia and rafael are young's competition

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    3. Brutus619
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Strong team mate, the defence stinks though - I would downgrade Bony/Eriksen so that you can upgrade your bench players.

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  7. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    This will be the only RMT I have posted yet just to see if this looks OK to start the season with. Feel a bit rushed sorting my team this season

    Krul Foster
    Terry Lovren PVA Moore Wisdom
    Mata Ramsey Siggy Young Marney
    Rooney Studge Costa

    Good to go?

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    1. Aston Villa-Boas
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Solid team

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    2. Aston Villa-Boas
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      not a huge lovren fan tho...

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      1. Captain Berbarossa - arrrrr…
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Seems a decent threat from set pieces and is now in a better team so hopefully a few more cleanies. I'm not going to complain for 5.5M. Thanks for input though )

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        1. Aston Villa-Boas
          • 12 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          its just that I dont see pool keeping cleanies with those fixtures, he could always score though

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        2. Brutus619
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          But Debuchy has a reputation for being really attacking, and is in a team with better opening defensive fixtures.

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    3. Brutus619
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Debuchy over Lovren for me.

      That front line is incredibly sexy 😉

      You've done OK with the midfield.

      I'd suggest downgrading Sturridge and upgrading your bench defenders, but you're not going to do that 😛

      7.5/10

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  8. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    So Pulis not happy at palace... Sounds like I may have to get rid of ward.

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    1. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      We already all did.

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    2. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Pulis has gone. Palace are manager less

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      1. Venom Snake
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Throw their defence out the window?

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        1. Obi Wan Elokobi
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Not necessarily but it's not going to be as good.

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  9. LewanGOALski
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    A. Ward + Ferdinand
    or
    B. Caulker + Chester
    or
    C. Pieters + Ferdinand

    ??

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  10. Hazard for Ballon D'or
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    How many captain choices do you all have?? Worried about the lack of choices in my team.

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    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney, Costa and Hazard

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      1. Falcao92
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        Rooney Costa Mata Ramsey

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        1. Milner4eva
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          you'd captain Ramsey?

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    2. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney Mata Costa Hazard

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    3. t4thomas
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      4.

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    4. jernej93
      • 11 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney, Costa, Mata, Hazard, Ramsey

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    5. Brutus619
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney, Costa, Hazard (& maybe Fabregas)

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  11. Proggy
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    For those who are unsettled on the Ward or Clyne debate, this may help:

    Clyne is more of a risk than Ward is. We're all forgetting that Southampton are a completely different team now. No Lovren, No Shaw, No Chambers, No Lallana, No Lambert, and a new manager. Southampton's defence was weak towards the end of last season, and they still had Lovren, Shaw, Chambers, Lallana and Lambert then - and they still had Pochettino! Imagine how worse it will be now.

    Ward is still a slight risk with Pulis leaving, but I don't think it will make a drastic difference. Kelly has arrived at the club today, which will only make them stronger at the back. And I don't know much about Keith Millen, but if he's managed them before and kept clean sheets against Everton and Hull, he must be pretty decent until they get a new manager.
    And for those worrying about Moyes joining - we're forgetting that Moyes was a great manager for Everton.

    I can see why Clyne seems the better pick, but if we flip it around - let's say that Pulis left Crystal Palace a few months ago, and Millen had been in charge for a while, and we'll say that Pochettino had left Southampton tonight, and they've only just hired a new manager - Ward seems like the better choice, right? Correct.

    But then let's say - both Pochettino and Pulis left their clubs at the same time, and we forget about the managers and focus on the squad. We'd all notice that Palace have a stronger squad, they're in much better condition defensively and throughout last season, Palace were a lot stronger at the back.

    Now, I'm not sure if this has convinced any of you or not, but Ward is definitely the much better pick for me.

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    1. Owd Big 'Ed
      • 16 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I'm avoiding both for this reason but Clyne obviously has better fixtures. I expect Southampton to be down the bottom end though this time around unless Pelle and Tadic start firing. You can't dismantle a team like that and expect to get the same results.

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    2. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Clyne has good attacking potential. Ward could play Defensiveid which offers nothing for a fantasy prospect.

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  12. Falcao92
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Is it me or is Blackett (man u) a great punt option?

    Looks like he will start first game with evans out and only 0.2 ownership.

    thoughts?

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    1. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      If you plan on wildcarding early go for it. If it's just a one week punt definitely go Chambers.

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      1. Falcao92
        • 12 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        I'm thinking he could hold down the spot though, man u have looked poor defensively and he looked good pre season. Am i crazy?

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  13. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    rate my defence

    krul elliot
    chester kelly pva clyne caulker

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    1. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Best I've seen Bemba.

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        😉 no sarcasm? What about gk situation?

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        1. Obi Wan Elokobi
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Seriously don't like the 8.5 rotation. Just find 0.5 somewhere.

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    2. SW6
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Budget, but all solid picks.

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        thanks can't afford premium. Aloit of money tied up in midfield

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        1. SW6
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          Same. My defence is the same as yours but Naughton for Kelly, and Rio in for Caulker

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    3. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Same as mine except I have Hutton over Caulker.

      So good 🙂

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        😯 I am thinking maybe hutton instead of pva

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        1. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          I would say 'great minds' but I don't like Caulker as a pick. At all!

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          1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            Good goal scoring record, I would have gone ferdinand but will he even start every game? He struggled last season with fitness

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            1. Piggs Boson
              • 14 Years
              11 years, 5 months ago

              I'm just not feeling the QPR defence for some reason, so paying 5.0m seems crazy. And goals are unpredictable.

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        2. Piggs Boson
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          And PvA looked outstanding in pre-season. Very attacking.

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          1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
            • 15 Years
            11 years, 5 months ago

            thank you for your input, I am go pva then

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    4. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Are you confident that Kelly will be a regular?

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        pretty confident. I think he will nail down a spot but of course we can't be sure. Also have a feeling chester will be rotated with europa league. It's doing my head in

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    5. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      would prefer if you downgrade caulker.

      how about caulker to naughton
      elliot to foster

      it's still pretty decent.

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        naughton is only a short 1-2 gw punt though? He's not nailed on with walker coming back soon. This worries me.

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    6. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Why not do Chester to Bruce?

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        bruce is not nailed on at all. Hull have many cb's, I think chester/davies will start most but chester is slight worry of fitnes/injury trouble

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    7. Sanguinista
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Wilson instead of PVA? I assume Clyne & Kelly will make the bench along with Elliot? Besides saving 0.5, any other reason to not uprade Elliot to Foster?

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        they will be rotated. Wilson is nailed?

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        1. Sanguinista
          • 13 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          I believe so based on pre-season at least until Huth is gradually brought back in.
          Here is what I have -

          Krul Foster
          JT Rio Wilson (Clyne) (Hutton)

          Problem with PVA is the fixtures. Worse case scenario if Wilson doesnt start then Clyne comes on. Then off he goes in GW2. But at least by then, we'll know who the 4.5 starting defenders are for each team.

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  14. Zeeco
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Hi everyone am i G2G

    Krul (Foster)
    Jones Teryy Chambers (Van Aanholt Cameron)
    Ramsey Mata Hazard Siggy (El Ahmadi)
    Bojan Diego(c) Rooney(v)

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    1. Aston Villa-Boas
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      can't see anything wrong with that

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    2. spoonlord
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      no liverpool?

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  15. Owd Big 'Ed
    • 16 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Help me out on these three issues please.

    1. Edin Dzeko, Steven Jovetic, Olivier Giroud or Emmanuel Adebayor?
    2. Joel Ward, Erik Pieters or Nathaniel Clyne?
    3. Aaron Ramsey or David Silva?

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    1. Sean.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Giroud
      Ward
      Rambo

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      1. Owd Big 'Ed
        • 16 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        2 Arsenal, 0 City then?

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        1. Sean.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          11 years, 5 months ago

          that's what i've got atm

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    2. Game...Blouses
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      1) Dzeko
      2) Clyne
      3)Rambo

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  16. Count Carlos
    • 11 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Guys, we've almost raised £1,000 for the NSPCC children's charity now, would be great if you joined us on https://www.justgiving.com/SerenityFantasyFootball...best of luck to all for the new season!

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    1. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Glad to see you're doing well. 🙂

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  17. Harvey Specter
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Is it a bad Idea to start: Caulker - Wisdom - Terry - P Jones
    While I have both Siggy and Mutch on the bench?

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    1. FrankH
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      I'd start mutch over wisdom but that's just me. I think west brom might concede. Injuries to first choice defence

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    2. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Drop Wisdom to bench. Put Siggy in line up.

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  18. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Would you rather have Chester or N.Taylor?

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    1. Harvey Specter
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Chester

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    2. Game...Blouses
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Got Cheapster in my squad

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    3. spoonlord
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      love chester

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  19. The Manbearpig
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Is wisdom nailed on?

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  20. chrisjdgrady
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Just saw that Arsenal signed the German fitness coach. Good news for Arsenal players? =P

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    1. Obi Wan Elokobi
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Reus would disagree

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    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      So long as they don't break down like they usually do. Sometimes its better to not do too much hard fitness work on a consistent basis.

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    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Who needs a VW bus with a cross trainer in it?

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    4. spoonlord
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      prob good news.. they're still mentally weaklings though

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  21. FrankH
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Any sunderland fans on here. What's your views on fletcher. Will he get starts each week. If borini comes will he be dropped to the bench. What you think. I personally think if he starts every week he'd be a great prospect.

    Finally how many goals do we all reckon bojan can get. His stats from his last few clubs are awful?

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  22. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Why would anyone want a Man U def right now? A combination of injury prone/untested/about to be dropped/makeshift poo defs that struggles to keep cleanies at the best of times. No thanks

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    1. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      This. Logic always comes back to bite me though so I will take DDG out for the reasons you state, then they'll go on a cleanie spree

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    2. spoonlord
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      with you 100%

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  23. gamblaren
    • 15 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    After thinking a lot back and forth I really need some input on this team. Whats the cons?

    For the first year I'm giving the 3-5-2 formation a try...

    Foster - Krul
    Caulker - Debuchy - Clyne - (Bruce - Wisdom)
    Sanchez - Eriksen - Mata - Fabregas - Young
    Costa - Rooney (Zamora)

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  24. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Just noticed that Patrick van Aanholt had 4 goals and 3 assist last season. Is he a very attacking back or is this from set pieces?

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    1. Lazarus Star
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Like for like with Alonso I hear. Gets down the wings and not scared to run into the box or have a shot outside.

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      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        I like it. Think I will get him

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  25. NapalmDeath (Northern Chaos…
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Wilson, Cameron, Muniesa

    Pick 1 😀

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  26. Ridgewell's scores
    • 13 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Best 5.5 defender?

    Should I do:
    Caulker -> Collocini
    Clyne -> 5.5?

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    1. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 12 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      Yes and for Debuchy

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      1. Ridgewell's scores
        • 13 Years
        11 years, 5 months ago

        I'm very tempted to get him.

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  27. Ramseys Rovers
    • 14 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this top 5 teams heavy team?

    Mannone (Krul)
    Terry Lovren Chambers (Blackett Wisdom)
    Fabregas Ramsey Sterling Young (Albrighton)
    Costa Rooney Dzeko

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  28. Nice to Finally Michu
    • 12 Years
    11 years, 5 months ago

    A) Courtois and Moore (5th defender)
    B) Begovic and Clyne (4th or 5th defender)

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    1. Sanguinista
      • 13 Years
      11 years, 5 months ago

      B

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