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The concept of “essential” players and banana skin fixtures were among the subjects tackled by the Hot Topics and community articles this week. We cast an eye back to the chatter surrounding those areas, plus look back as the community considered tactical issues such as form, knee jerk decisions and placing eggs in baskets. As ever, we round things off by assessing the latest members tables and by taking a look at the ups and downs in our community leagues and tournaments.

The Community Articles

Stoke’s surprise victory over Manchester City and Aston Villa’s win over Liverpool this season provided Langrobbie with the inspiration for a new, regular community feature looking at similar potential banana skin fixtures. In his inaugural article, he analysed the potential for Villa to deliver another upset, against Arsenal, and for Manchester United to slip up against Leicester. Spooky.

The Puntmaster is already established as a regular provider of community contributions – his weekly trio of differentials is now a mainstay the community section. On a high after successfully predicting Graziano Pelle’s Gameweek 4 haul, he enjoyed further success this week by picking out Hull’s Nikica Jelavic. Pay attention if you’ve been missing this series up until now.

Elsewhere, Sticky Mockwell has spent the week having an in-depth look at knee-jerk decisions to assess whether patience is a virtue when it comes to the indifferent form of the game’s heavy-hitters.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

Despite being just a month into the Premier League season, phrases like “essential player” and “season keeper” are being bandied around with growing regularity. Diego Costa is an obvious candidate for such status, according to Don the Special One in MJ6987’s discussion on players that seem set to remain in our squads all season.

Southampton defenders are another group that some believe are now essential. However, Giggs Boson stated this week that there are other, less fashionable defences that deserve our attention, such as the surprisingly robust Burnley and Aston Villa back-lines.

Few are currently considering Leicester’s rearguard: going into Gameweek 4 the east Midlands outfit had conceded the most shots in the box in the league. Their defensive frailties were among a range of issues Davies – Leicester Expert covered in the first of many regular question-and-answer sessions about his beloved club. We can only imagine how he’s feeling this evening.

Giggs Boson was back with a further hot topic later in the week, this time to suggest that Everton’s Leighton Baines may be on the cusp of essential status. He believes this could be his best season yet, due to manager Roberto Martinez’ focus on attack. Once again, this an example of the soothsaying powers on show in the past seven days.

Roscola was around to stress the need for caution when considering Sir Leighton – stating that he believed that Everton clean sheet points will be in short supply; he certainly has a case going on the evidence so far this term.

Angel Di Maria is rapidly emerging as a new contender for “essential” status – particularly after his 14-point haul against QPR in Gameweek 4. Triggerlips is among those to believe the Argentine’s assist potential and rapid price-hike make him among the most important players to own. Applebonkers rained on that parade, however – he remains unconvinced that Di Maria can join the elite scoring Fantasy Premier League (FPL) players without goals. We can only wonder if today’s supreme strike has him reconsidering that view.

Elsewhere, Kalix and Sarjeant took some time to examine long-term strategy. Sarjeant brought us a first in a regular series looking at form to assess the teams that, irrespective of fixtures, are notching goals and clean sheets with increasing regularity. Kalix, meanwhile, looked at the dilemma of either placing all your Fantasy eggs in the same basket or hedging your bets by selecting defenders and attackers from opposing sides.

Finally, Doosra emerged victorious in the search for a Scout Picks community champion for Gameweek 5. Watch out tomorrow morning when we will be asking for candidates and votes for Gameweek 6’s community champion.

The Members Tables

After seeing Manchester United’s more fluid attacking display against QPR, I decided to compile this members table looking at the Red Devils in more detail. My effort is sorted by shots in the box, one of the best indicators of goal-scoring potential.

Manchester United figured highly in Sarjeant’s look at the most attacking teams this season so far. His must-read table is sorted by touches in the final third.

Attacking attributes of midfielders have caught the eye of Arvin-ation who also favours shots in the box to assess goal-scoring threat.

Goalscoring defenders were the focus of MJ6987’s look at the season’s most attacking back-line stars. Going into Gameweek 5 there were some surprising entrants in his top 10. Venice Bean, meanwhile, has also been focussing on defenders, this time to assess those who are doing well in terms of FPL bonus point criteria.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

In AZ’s Early Bird Cup, Costa progresses to the quarter finals after scoring 78 points, the highest in Gameweek 4’s round. Dusan Citizen, Acquafresca, AZ and Pundit of Punts are among the other quarter-finalists this weekend.

The safety score in TorresMagic‘s Last Man Standing was 38 in Gameweek 4. This meant 84 teams were eliminated and 1,326 progress.

FFS UEFA’s Hockey tournament kicked off this week. For all the latest visit our community article here.

Our resident physiotherapy expert Facer topped the FFScout moderators and contributors league going into Gameweek 5, closely followed by Greek Fan and Tinkerman.

Triggerlips was in first place in the Long and Winding Road main league after Gameweek 4, but had to settle for second in the Top 1,000 any season league behind Daniel Blackett.

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  1. Goodfella
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Lamela > JWP

    Thoughts?

    1. Footylicious
      12 years, 1 month ago

      no

    2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      needs context...

      1. Goodfella
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Current midfield is Fab, Ramsey, Sterling, Siggy, Lamela

        0.1m ITB

        1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
          12 years, 1 month ago

          downing/diame look good for just 0.5m more... 🙂

  2. nedfoo
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Ramsey & Sanchez > Fabregas & Di Maria for -4?

    1. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sanchez to ADM imo

    2. Rolls-Royce
      12 years, 1 month ago

      yes

  3. Piggs Boson
    12 years, 1 month ago

    I'm quite happy with this for next week
    http://i.imgur.com/wd7Etv4.png?1

    Got to be Duff over Moore...

    1. Walsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      No question Duff over Moore. No chance Leicester keep clean at Selhurst next weekend.

      1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
        12 years, 1 month ago

        well done to your boys against Everton! was nice to see Bolasie FINALLY get a goal for all his threat over the past year 😀

        1. Walsh
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Thanks!!!!!!!!! 😀 It was amazing to watch that one this morning. I was very, very depressed when I saw the team sheet from Warnock, but somehow it came off. Martinez deserved it for rotating his squad so heavily, very foolish if he thinks he has the team to fight two fronts this season. It was a great and much needed three points.

          1. Not Irish
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah, congrats.

            1. Walsh
              12 years, 1 month ago

              😉

  4. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Bottom of page repost.

    Best cheap fit for Debuchy in this defence?

    Clyne Moore Ferdinand CHESTER

    Need someone to hide Ferdinand most week.

    Duff or Naylor best choices?

    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Duff imo

    2. Not Irish
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Duff, easily

      1. Zasa
        12 years, 1 month ago

        What they said

    3. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      The Duffster

      1. Not Irish
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Duffmeister

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Duff for me.

    5. Shifty
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Duff between the two

    6. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers all.

  5. Not Irish
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Have Bertrand as well, mind...

    A)Blackett>Clyne
    B)Alderweireld>Clyne
    C)Alderweireld>Baines
    D)Aguero/Rooney>Falcao/Costa

    Thoughts?

    1. nedfoo
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Stretford End
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Costa is vital IMO. Today was always going to be tight. Saturday will be a different story

      1. Not Irish
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Not even sure he'll play Saturday.

        1. Stretford End
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Would you rather have him and not play. Or not have him and he scores a brace. He's on 59% ownership and rising. 90% of those will captain him

          1. Not Irish
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Can look at that two ways. That I'll drop like a stone if he scores a brace and that I'll rocket up the rankings if he doesn't and I get my captain right.

      2. BlueIncognito
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Still was unlucky not to score as well, hit the woodwork

    3. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'd get Costa any way you can.

    4. Shifty
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Tough luck about Blackett Muppet.

      How long is Alderweireld out?

      1. Not Irish
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, cheers. Tough one to swallow. Koeman said Aldy should be back in next week.

        1. Shifty
          12 years, 1 month ago

          A for me. Blackett will play west ham but on current form, united defence is a no go personally.

    5. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A - it should really pay off in the long run imo 🙂

      1. Not Irish
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I agree. Will give me the option of holding onto Clyne or Berty once Saints' fixtures toughen up. And TBH I might still be happy to double up. Only issue is I think Clyne may rise so I'd need to do it tonight.

        1. Footylicious
          12 years, 1 month ago

          he is rising without a doubt

        2. Stretford End
          12 years, 1 month ago

          He rose already 5.3

  6. Shifty
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Morning folks. Used FT but managed to not hit the button last night. Looking at Ade > Pelle for a hit but does this lot warrant a WC?

    Krul Elliot
    Clyne bardsley Wilson chambers wisdom
    DiMaria Ramsey Sterling Sigurdsson Marney
    Costa Rooney Ade

    1m bank

    Thanks in advance.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      No WC needed. My defence/team above is worse than yours.

      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Maybe you should WC?

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Neither need WCs.

    2. Go Loons
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      That team looks too good for a wild card.

    3. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      definitely doesn't warrant a WC...just wait on Ade ---> Pelle for now

      1. Shifty
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers AR. Feeling really down about my team. Super close to knee jerking a WC last night but just got dimaria in and looked better on paper.

    4. Not Irish
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Welbz then look to get Fab/Haz in for Rambo if he doesn't sort himself.

      1. Shifty
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Yea gonna give Rambo the NLD to show his worth.

    5. Rolls-Royce
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Dont u think u should get rid of Krul??

      1. Go Loons
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        It would not be worth doing that for a hit.

    6. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'd look into getting Forster for Krul next week or so.

      1. Shifty
        12 years, 1 month ago

        On the cards 🙂

    7. NABIL - FPL otai
      12 years, 1 month ago

      No WC needed. Just get Pelle or that guy from Leicester City.

      1. Shifty
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers nabil. Not DAT GUY? 🙂

  7. Les Bleus
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Anything required for a hit do you think? 2.2 ITB

    Foster
    Clyne Moreno Naylor
    Ramsey Sterling Fab Siggy
    Rooney Costa(c) Welbeck

    Krul Duff Marney Bruce

    I have been contemplating Ramsey to ADM for a hit but I think I'll hold.

    1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      hold on there cowboy 🙂

      1. Les Bleus
        12 years, 1 month ago

        😀

        Hopefully Aaron will do the business next GW 😉

        Cheers

    2. Not Irish
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Rambo>AdM

      1. Not Irish
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Never mind not for hit missed that

        1. Les Bleus
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah I don't know if it's worth it for a hit.

          Cheers.

  8. waldo666
    12 years, 1 month ago

    OK guys here's the rest of my team and posing the same question as before just in case there is something more glaring that you think needs attention......cheers.

    Foster (Krul)
    Cahill Chambers Bertrand (Wisdom Rio)
    Ramsey Hazard Siggy Mata Larsson
    Rooney Costa (Naismith)

    2 FT's with a plan to go Ramsey and Mata ----> ADM and Sterling

  9. Darsh
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Got 2 ft, 1.4 in the bank. What moves to make?

    Krul, Foster
    Terry, Lovren, Clyne, Moore, Caulker
    Sterling Fabregas, Ramsey, Sigurdsson, Boyd
    Costa, Naismith, Rooney

    1. Walsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Lovren out for someone, Rooney to Kun.

      1. Darsh
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Ignore ADM? And keep Naismith?

        1. Walsh
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Idk 🙂 Could get ADM I guess for Ramsey..that seems popular today. Naismith may be a worry depending on how daft Martinez is in how he decides to rotate his squad. Could get rid of him I suppose. You have many options.

          1. Darsh
            12 years, 1 month ago

            WC time maybe...?

            1. Walsh
              12 years, 1 month ago

              No way!

  10. sinik
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    I actually think I may save my FT this week..Merseyside derby should be a shootout, potential for Moreno to do something attacking..then get Aguero in for the week after once Roma (who have allowed 0 so far) has passed

    ....................Begovic
    .........Ivanovic, Clyne, Moreno
    Sigurdsson, Cesc, Sterling, Di Maria
    .........Rooney, Naismith, Costa

    Gilks; Chambers, Marney, Hutton

    1. Go Loons
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sounds like a good plan.

      1. sinik
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        cheers

  11. Always (C)ane
    12 years, 1 month ago

    best 4.5mid ?

    1. Always (C)ane
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Marney or Boyd ?

    2. Zasa
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Boydd

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Wanyama if you're casual.

  12. Blue Lion
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Heyo!
    I have 2 FTs left and would like to use up one freebie.Who would you use it on and for who?

    1)Moreno
    2)Krul
    3) King( Heard some rumours that he is not nailed on now, is it true?)

    0 itb.
    Would like to bring Baines in for Moreno , but that would mean downgrading Tadic.This seems like an unnecessary move given the fixtures.

    1. Walsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      BL, massive week mate 😀 Well done!

      Krul to Heaton looks like a solid transfer to me.

      1. Blue Lion
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks Walsh! Welbeck and AdM delivered the goods. Gut picks worked.

        I am also contemplating that move if i decide to keep Moreno.

        1. Walsh
          12 years, 1 month ago

          If you are committed to saving one of your transfers I would prioritize Krul out over Moreno though if I were you I would use both and get rid of both of those two. Don't think either look like good picks at the moment. I would have been in the same boat as you if the black box next to Welbeck's name had a c in it instead of a v on my team, but so it is. I have teeny tiny balls and prefer my captains to be expensive and blank 😀

          1. Blue Lion
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Tough luck bru!

    2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      try get rid of Krul if you don't have anyone to rotate him with imo...King is low priority given his 5th mid status...Moreno ---> Baines looks good for gw8 🙂

      1. Blue Lion
        12 years, 1 month ago

        My thoughts. Exactly. But downgrading Tadic to a < 6.2 mid is a problem.

        1. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Downing looks promising imo 🙂

          1. Blue Lion
            12 years, 1 month ago

            😯

    3. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      2.

      Liverpool have great fixtures so I'd hold and hope (as am I)

    4. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I've got Lovren and will hold on to him, though he'll probably see my bench for the derby. Moreno should surely start due to how attacking he is.

  13. NABIL - FPL otai
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Bought Naismith for GW4 & 5..and what did he give me? 1 point. Duh!

  14. The Sarjeant
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Any reason to not do Mata > Fábregas now?

    1. rickardinho
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You should have done it in gw2 would be one reason...

      1. Ludo
        12 years, 1 month ago

        They've scored the same number of points since then.

        1. rickardinho
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Doesn't say much when one of them has played at Goodison and the Etihad and the other has been playing relegation fodder and a likely benchwarmer, plus the price changes

    2. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Nope. Pull that metaphorical trigger 😉

    3. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      no imo

    4. Walsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yes. There are midweek games and Fab is in no danger of rising after a blank.

      1. The Sarjeant
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Surely he's not gonna play?

        1. Walsh
          12 years, 1 month ago

          He won't, but some of your other lads may. Who knows if injury strikes somewhere else.

          1. The Sarjeant
            12 years, 1 month ago

            I've still got one more transfer.

            1. Walsh
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Then go on. 🙂

              1. The Sarjeant
                12 years, 1 month ago

                I already have 😉

    5. Not Irish
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I see none unless you don't have AdM.

      1. The Sarjeant
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I do not. But I feel Fábregas is needed more.

        1. Not Irish
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Tough one. I reckon AdM will score better and will definitely rise more quickly.

  15. rickardinho
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Who would you play next week?

    A) Ulloa (pal)
    B) Siggy (sun)

    1. Chambers (TOT)
    2. Lovren (EVE)
    3. Taylor (sun)

    Currently on Siggy/Taylor but its an interesting couple of decisions to make.

    1. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      That's tough.

      B and 2

      1. Les Bleus
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Actually, play Ulloa instead of Siggy.

    2. Zasa
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Ulloa, form > fixture

    3. EmreCan Hustle
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A and 3.

  16. Rolls-Royce
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Tottenham looks weaker than last year dont they??

    1. Les Bleus
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Hopefully that's a good sign for the North London derby next GW 😉

    2. Walsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Jekyll and Hyde side they are, this year, thus far.

    3. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      yeah they look really poor...their best hope is to win the el this season, which would give them cl qualification...

    4. NABIL - FPL otai
      12 years, 1 month ago

      More or less the same team. New signings yet to hit the stride imo.

  17. Piggs Boson
    12 years, 1 month ago

    If I were Poch, I'd start Lennon over Chadli. Navas revealed Arsenal's weakness on the flanks.

    But that's probably why I'm not a Premier League manager...

    1. Elniñorules
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Good point.

    2. Aaron Ramessi - Straya
      12 years, 1 month ago

      that was with Monreal and Ozil on the left 😯

      Gibbs and Santi/Sanchez this weekend is 10x better 🙂

  18. Elniñorules
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Eriksen > Di Maria for a hit?

    1. Blue Lion
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Not for a hit.

    2. Piggs Boson
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Might not have immediate pay off but it's a good long term investment.

  19. BlueIncognito
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Would it be stupid to take another hit to rid of Krul? Start Wisdom or Moreno?

    1. Walsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Wouldn't take a hit for that. I'd start Wisdom.

  20. tm245
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Let's go, prices. Rise!

    1. Walsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      *fall

    2. NABIL - FPL otai
      12 years, 1 month ago

      For whom?

  21. Walsh
    12 years, 1 month ago

    I've got 99 problems and every single one of them involves Zaha.

    1. Not Irish
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Heard Bolasie looked the biz today.

      1. Walsh
        12 years, 1 month ago

        He looked how he always looks, honestly. He just managed to bury the one chance he usually earns a game.

    2. Sparrer
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Hi Mr Moyes, welcome to the site

      1. Walsh
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I don't get it 🙁

    3. BeachBadger
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Lol that really made me laugh

  22. Not Irish
    12 years, 1 month ago

    FTs the last two weeks...

    Blackett in

    Blackett out

    1. Walsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      And how does he reward you and your enduring faith? Pfft - a red card. Doesn't he read FFS? He can sod off.

      1. Not Irish
        12 years, 1 month ago

        We was robbed. Me and Blackett.

  23. EmreCan Hustle
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Morning DZ.

    Which is the better combination fir the next few weeks?
    A. Tadic + Aguero,
    Or
    B. ADM + Pelle +2.5m?

    Have Rooney.

    Thanks.

    1. Go Loons
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I like A. Aguero can bring in loads of points and I would expect Tadic to score some too.

  24. PGDAR
    12 years, 1 month ago

    What would be your guys ideal team?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Would need 105m

  25. Diva
    12 years, 1 month ago

    My mini-league rival captained Ulloa. That paid off handsomely!

  26. Blue Lion
    12 years, 1 month ago

    What do you think of Herrera from an FPL perspective? Likely to continue his exploits? Ramsey kind of player?

    1. Adderz
      12 years, 1 month ago

      He's never been much of a goalscorer before, I think he'll get them though. Today's finish was so instinctive

  27. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    They have been been sneaking premier league fotballers into the titles of films for years. Here are a few examples. Some of them even deserve an Oscar

    Duff & Duffer
    Krul Intentions
    The Curious Case of Benjamin Hutton
    Howard the duck: A new breed of hero
    Road Trippier
    Millers Shawcrossing
    Donkey Puncheon
    Crouch-ing tiger hidden dragon
    Mystic Riviere
    The Lovely Bony
    Ideye at the races
    Tinker, Tailor, Soldado, Spy
    Star Wars Episode 2: Attack of the Kone

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😆 How about the Grammys? I have one for that too.

      Gettin' siggy wit it

      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        very good! Wish I had waited to put this on the next page

        1. NABIL - FPL otai
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah you should!

  28. tm245
    12 years, 1 month ago

    How will either Liverpool or United stop Lukaku? Am seriously considering him now instead of gw8.

    1. Not Irish
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Thought about it as well. Europa put me off.

      1. tm245
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Doh! Keep forgetting about that.

  29. Jay_
    12 years, 1 month ago

    No one not posted the risers yes, two of my team rose not sure who Costa i think

  30. OPTA FPL
    12 years, 1 month ago

    rising......