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1 October 2014 1345 comments
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After making his debut in the midweek cup win over Arsenal, Saido Mane retained his place in the Saints’ first XI for the weekend clash against QPR. With the Senegal wide man starting on the left of a 4-3-3, Dusan Tadic switched flanks to accommodate the new boy and both players earned an assist apiece as Ronald Koeman’s side served up a sixth straight victory in all competitions.

This weekend’s trip to White Hart Lane, where former manager Mauricio Pochettino awaits, precedes five excellent fixtures (SUN, STO, hul, LEI, avl) which are sure to strengthen our Fantasy faith in Koeman’s main men. With this in mind, we take a look at the performance of both Mane and Tadic against the R’s to assess whether the new boy’s first league appearance had any impact on his fellow midfielder.

involvement As the average position map highlights, Tadic (number 11) was more advanced on the ball than Mane (number 10) and more or less on a par with Graziano Pelle (number 19) in the hosts’ front three. What’s also worth noting here is that Tadic’s average position is affected by Mane’s second-half withdrawal, as the Serb moved over to the left upon the introduction of Shane Long (number 7) on 68 minutes.

In terms of involvement, Tadic’s minutes per touch (1.3) were identical to his Gameweek 1-5 averages, whilst his minutes per pass received (2.2 compared to 2.1) were more or less the same – suggesting he’ll still see just as much of the ball with Mane on board. Encouragingly for the Senegal star, he not only matched Tadic’s minutes per pass received, he was slightly quicker for minutes per touch (1.2), and as his time on the pitch increases, he’s likely to become just as influential as his team-mate.

In the final third of the pitch, Tadic was the hosts’ key figure. The former FC Twente player managed 50 touches in the final third over his 91 minutes, whilst Mane produced 30 across his 68 – just one fewer than Pelle’s 31. Tadic also received more passes in the final third (25) than Mane (15), though the former’s distribution could certainly improve. The Serbian playmaker made just 23 successful passes over the match (a 76.7% success rate), with just one of his 13 crosses finding their target. Indeed, although Tadic’s 257 touches in the final third is top for midfielders this season, he’s only joint-seventh for successful passes (97) in this area.

Mane, on the other hand, tends to deliver the ball less often from out wide. He made just four crosses and registered a far higher pass completion (88%) against the R’s, with his total of three key passes greater than Tadic’s one. The Serb had previously averaged 2.2 chances created per appearance, at an average of 38.5 minutes, but whilst he did manage to deliver an assist, this dropped to 91 minutes at the weekend.

When compared to Shane Long’s stats for the season, it’s easy to see how Mane can improve the Saints – the summer signing from Hull has teed up a total of three goal-scoring opportunities for his team-mates over 304 minutes and completed just 75% of his passes. Mane’s ability in one-on-one situations is also vital – he completed three of five dribbles at the weekend, whereas Long has managed just one successful dribble from 10 attempts all season.

Although his creativity took a turn for the worse at the weekend, Tadic’s upturn in goal threat looks promising for Fantasy owners. The Serb registered nine touches in the box – more than any other midfielder in the Gameweek and far superior to his Gameweek 1-5 average of four. Furthermore, Tadic’s shift over to the right saw him produce six attempts on goal, with an impressive four inside the box – once again, markedly up on his previous averages of 2.0 and 0.8 respectively. Predominantly left-footed, it may be that being fielded as an inverted winger allows Tadic more scope to cut inside onto his favoured foot and fire more shots at goal.

While Mane’s overall stats suffer in comparison due to his second-half withdrawal, there’s reason for optimism here, too. Although his touches in the box (four) and attempts on goal (three) were inferior to his team-mate’s, the Senegal star still fired two efforts on target – equalling Tadic’s haul. Again, his average is far superior to Long’s 43.4 minutes per attempt, underlining the likelihood of bench-warming duties for the £12m purchase from Hull.

Another stat worth noting from Saturday’s match concerns the number of offside calls. Renowned for his lightning pace, Mane was flagged three times against the R’s – while it’s understandable that he’s not yet on the same wavelength as his fellow Saints, it’s also clear that he is keen to get in behind opposition defences time and again. By comparison, Tadic has been caught offside just four times all season – his more cultured style of play suggests that, of the two, he’s the man most likely to come looking for the ball rather than offer an outlet on the shoulder of the last defender.

*The Technical Area is put together using the statistics and maps available in our members area. For access to such data and tools on every player, team and match of the 2014/15 season, and for exclusive members articles like this, click here for details.

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  1. theloveburglar
    12 years, 1 month ago

    remember when steven gerrard used to take these games by the scruff of the neck?

    1. CTID_
      12 years, 1 month ago

      properly not cos that was about 7 years ago

      1. THE Wild Rover
        12 years, 1 month ago

        He does the same with the guy in the bar

    2. Randy_Marsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Eh he has aged since then

    3. Woy of the Wovers
      12 years, 1 month ago

      What? When Basel beat Liverpool the first time?

  2. AlCapwnUK
    12 years, 1 month ago

    To Baines or not to Baines?

    From GW8

    Torn between a budget defence of:

    - Chambers, Duff, Wisdom, Bertrand, ShawX

    (And having extra cash to let me upgrade Ulloa or Lamela at a later date)

    OR
    - dropping ShawX for Baines

  3. Revival
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    What are Liverpool doing in the 12/1 new account banker!

  4. rohan
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Lambert should really be starting ahead of Balotelli.

    Gerrard needs to be dropped too but they don't really have anyone better. Not sure if Lucas is fit.

    1. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Not really. Balotelli is shit, but lambert is shitter.

      1. Robe Wan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        At least he gives a shit

        1. Sess!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Fair comment.

      2. rohan
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Really? Balotelli looks so average. Lambs might not be as good but he might just provide a lot more to the team

        1. Sess!
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          You might be right. I don't know why any club would want balotelli.

    2. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Rohan - that's not your team linked is it?

      1. rohan
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Nope, its not my link

    3. theloveburglar
      12 years, 1 month ago

      no doubt about that.. proven premier league goal scorer big rickie

    4. CTID_
      12 years, 1 month ago

      'Lambert should really be starting ahead of Balotelli.' can tell you only enjoy playing fantasy and not watching football

      1. Robe Wan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Are you joking? Balotelli is terrible

      2. rohan
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Oh dear. Another delude 🙂

    5. Wilshere Knowledge
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Gerrard could down 3 bottles of tequila before a game, and be better than Lucas.

      1. rohan
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Possible. Willing to accept that. Gerrard has been pretty poor though. Doesn't really provide much except a few really good free kicks

    6. Randy_Marsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I fully agree Lambert would actually try to play. Can see why Milan sold Balo, tactically inept and just shows no motivation to play a game of football. I really miss Suarez his bite for the game was incredible

  5. CTID_
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Gerrard pen?

  6. chrisjdgrady
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Cazorla can look so brilliant and so careless in a split second it's amazing

    1. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I love watching him

      1. chrisjdgrady
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Me too he's great but he gives the ball away a lot. Also shows amazing skill more often than not. Can be frustrating!

  7. Wouter
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Oh Santiiii so close.

  8. JT's Dog
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Further to help request at bottom of last page
    I pressed change URL button in my profile and now I don't hve a profile
    Not sure why the button would be there if it did this
    Any advice

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Change your name to something basic & work from there.

      1. JT's Dog
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Can't get back in to change it
        When I press my profile it says bad request
        I have been evicted from my own being

    2. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Wow, you've proper knacked it!

  9. thepuntmaster
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    New punts article submitted... Any guesses?

    1. kalmoffit
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You can't have Welbeck

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'll be getting 2 of them 🙂

      1. thepuntmaster
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        No pressure 😉

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          You are due a fail tbh.

          1. thepuntmaster
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            12 years, 1 month ago

            Ikr - just waiting for it to crash and burn 😉

    3. AlCapwnUK
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Downing

    4. La Roja
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Costa?

    5. tm245
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Gomis Downing Jelavic?

    6. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sakho, Neil Taylor, Leicester striker

    7. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Enner Valencia

      1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
        12 years, 1 month ago

        James Vardy and Abel Hernandez as well

    8. Mavric Marco
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Lukaku?

    9. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Moses

      12 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure who you've had before.... Richie De Laet, Diame and Sakho. 😀

    10. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sakho, Hernandez & a Swan!

      1. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Would have said Moses but think you 'punted' him last week.

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Maybe even Milner or Matic!!!

    11. thepuntmaster
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Don't want to reveal anything but it's interesting to see

      1. tm245
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Bit of a tease...

        12 years, 1 month ago

        I'd put money on Sakho. 😉 Form and fixture.

    12. Tallahassee
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Downing, maybe even lampard?

    13. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Crouch

    14. Wouter
      12 years, 1 month ago

      On punts?

      Bafetimbi Gomis
      Jack Rodwell
      Aaron Creswell

    15. chrisjdgrady
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Mane
      Da laet

    16. MJ6987
      12 years, 1 month ago

      The obligatory "whoever is playing QPR" punt - Downing or Sakho I guess.

      Maybe Vardy?

    17. Wilshere Knowledge
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Moses, Ox and Wickham

  10. Pepin - RIP Absinthe
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Ludogorets robbed!

    1. SLT758
      12 years, 1 month ago

      they really were robbed
      cant belive what they did to madrid
      #RESPECT

  11. AlCapwnUK
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Liverpool's best bet to retain champions league football is going to be winning the UEFA cup

  12. CTID_
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Rogers has lost again.Was 'his' amazing season really just Suarez amazing season?

    1. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      The guy was different class - covered a lot of cracks

      1. Fray Bentos
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Which is why barca will be unstoppable quite soon

        1. CTID_
          12 years, 1 month ago

          No team is 'unstoppable' in this era

        2. Daniel Exeter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          12 years, 1 month ago

          It'll be interesting what happens at Barca - Suarez will light the league up that's for sure

    2. And we all have legs
      12 years, 1 month ago

      And Rodgers said they wouldn't do a Tottenham haha

    3. Randy_Marsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      They need to replace Messi alright, Suarez and Neymar will be tough to contain.

      1. CTID_
        12 years, 1 month ago

        replace messi hes 27

        1. Randy_Marsh
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Hasn't been the same player since that horrible injury

    4. chrisjdgrady
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

  13. Granville
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Well not missing the UCL deadline cost me 7 points. Typical

    1. micsway
      12 years, 1 month ago

      who did you drop?

      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Swapped (c) from Messi to Ronaldo. Switched Suchy->Durm. I would have left it to autosubs. In fact I was surprised logging on at 5.50 that the deadline hadn't passed.

        1. 420king
          12 years, 1 month ago

          ends when the match starts on day 2 and 15 min before on day 1

    2. 420king
      12 years, 1 month ago

      😀

  14. Mavric Marco
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Why hadn't Welbeck got his match ball!?

    1. Mavric Marco
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Probably waiting to get another one on Sunday 😉

      1. CTID_
        12 years, 1 month ago

        TOP BANTER!! RESPONDING TO YOUR OWN COMMENT!! BANTER!!

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Please lose the caps. Thanks.

          1. Fantasy Gold
            12 years, 1 month ago

            classic TM reply

            1. MJ6987
              12 years, 1 month ago

              Just doin his job

        2. Fantasy Gold
          12 years, 1 month ago

          lol

        3. Mavric Marco
          12 years, 1 month ago

          Ha! 😀

  15. mdm
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Rooney to:

    A. Welbeck
    B. Aguero

    1. Sess!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      If you can spend the money wisely elsewhere....has to be welbeck.

    2. Mavric Marco
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Kun

    3. CTID_
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Kun will get you 25 goals
      Welbeck will get you 10-15

    4. AlCapwnUK
      12 years, 1 month ago

      If the rest of your squad is strong AGUERO. If you need a few other upgrades Welbz is a solid, but imo, worse choice

    5. Randy_Marsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Easy one Aguero

  16. Isco Disco
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Choose one

    A) Welbeck and Tadic
    B) Pelle and Chadli

    1. Prince of Persia
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Randy_Marsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      A

  17. 420king
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Ronaldo on 4 pts atm, surely that will be fixed to 5?
    History table still has Penalties Earned = 0

    1. Epic Fail
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Should do. Doesn't mean it will though. Awful site.

  18. boc610
    12 years, 1 month ago

    sterling's had two shockers in a row now

    1. micsway
      12 years, 1 month ago

      aye

    2. CTID_
      12 years, 1 month ago

      he dew a good game...thats how it works

  19. PlayPercentage
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Mourinho may revert back to defensive mode after this. Play for a 1-0 bore fest.

      12 years, 1 month ago

      You think Mourinho is scared of Welbeck. 😆

      1. PlayPercentage
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Sanchez-Ozil-Welbeck might give him some problems.
        Expect Fabregas to stay back.

    1. rohan
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Lol. Not happening. He will want to be tight but he was never actually "defensive" in his approach last season in the home games

      1. PlayPercentage
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Chelsea's defence was much meaner last season. Ask a John Terry owner.

  20. Fantasy Gold
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Anybody else really tempted to ditch Sterling? He has really been off the boil the last few games. Might swap him for ADM.

    1. The 12th Man
      12 years, 1 month ago

      > Silva. Already have ADM

    2. CTID_
      12 years, 1 month ago

      this

    3. MJ6987
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Oops. See below

    4. PlayPercentage
      12 years, 1 month ago

      West Brom defence starting to look good.
      Pressure must be building on Balotelli.
      Could be more disappointment for Liverpool at the weekend.

    5. tm245
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Will switch him for Theo, hopefully, but until then just see no other options in his price range with that attacking threat. Sturridge will be a huge help for him, too.

    6. boc610
      12 years, 1 month ago

      thats a bit drastic, two bad games for sure but I still think he's one of the best fantasy prospects at the moment for huge hauls

    7. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Sturridge out is really impacting him. Balo just doesn't offer the same movement, not creating the space by pulling defenders.
      Nice fixtures up ahead p, and Sturridge coming back, I'd hold for a little longer

  21. MJ6987
    12 years, 1 month ago

    I was planning Hazard / Rooney > Sterling / Aguero (the Hazard downgrade needed to afford Aguero). 2 FT.

    After tonight, and Liverpool's poor recent form, would you still go for this move? Or something else?

    DDG Gilks
    Clyne PVA Chester Colo Wisdom
    Hazard Fabregas Di Maria Siggy Marney
    Rooney Costa Welbeck

    1.0 bank

    Cheers 🙂

    1. Fantasy Gold
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I am getting rid of Sterling after WBA game

      1. boc610
        12 years, 1 month ago

        ha right, so he scores two and you'l definitely ditch him?

      12 years, 1 month ago

      Still like it. Hazard to Sterling is hardly a downgrade. 😛 When Studge returns, so will Sterling.

      1. MJ6987
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Well, I mean downgrade in terms of price.

          12 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah, I know. 🙂 Not a bad downgrade!

    2. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Still solid moves mate

    3. MJ6987
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers all.

  22. JT's Dog
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Now my grav has gone
    I'm fading away

    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You'll want to sleep, but try and resist.

      1. JT's Dog
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Goodbye cruel world

    2. Epic Fail
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Not surprised you want to disappear after being destroyed by India 😎

      1. JT's Dog
        12 years, 1 month ago

        My hearing and eyesight has gone so I can't see this comment

    3. VougieDipond
      12 years, 1 month ago

      so long man

  23. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Could do with some help guys.

    Begovic - McCarthy
    Clyne - Moreno - Shawcross - Ivanovic - Moore
    Fabregas - Sterling - Siggy - ADM - Boyd
    Costa - Balotelli - Ulloa

    1 FT, 0.3m in bank.

    Originally had decided to hold off this week. Was gonna bring in Chambers for one my defenders next week and bring in Sturridge / Kun for Balo.

    Definitely wanted Welbz in the team at some point though, does it make sense to just go Balo to Welbeck now? Got a feeling he may get a big price rise within the next couple of weeks...

    1. @Talk_Shite
      12 years, 1 month ago

      I'm skeptical of changing my team right before international breaks which are injury magnets. Plus I can see a dire 1-0 for Chelsea following a JM park job. So, I'd hold off for now. At least until after the Chelsea match.

      1. WHY ALWAYS MESUT?
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks for the response. I agree usually.

        Just a little worried he may rise by .2 or .3 by the time the international break is over.

  24. Gnu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    12 years, 1 month ago

    The Cantona 'farmer' Kronenbourg advert makes me chuckle everytime, quality.

    1. JT's Dog
      12 years, 1 month ago

      His best work

  25. Nickofoz
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Taking all things into account, who is the better player to have at the moment?

    Ivanovic or Baines?

    1. CTID_
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Ivanovic has the chance of goal/assist and clean sheets every game

      Baines has the chance of getting a pen

      1. Randy_Marsh
        12 years, 1 month ago

        I have Ivan but consider Baines to be more dangerous GW8

  26. Mavric Marco
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Haha Welbeck said he forgot the match ball, bless 🙂

    1. MJ6987
      12 years, 1 month ago

      You have to love him.

      1. Mavric Marco
        12 years, 1 month ago

        If he keeps banging the goals in like that I'll love him forever!! 🙂

  27. FPL Daniel
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Soooo somehow I am not the only one on the Welbeck wagon. I was advising Welbeck instead of Kun but was ibvious minority. Now he shows potential and everyone talk about him. Just unbelivable. I mean hellow!!!z

    1. Randy_Marsh
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah it's quite sad, my plan was a Wellbeck under the radar GW8 but it's gone nuts in here after tonight

      1. Daniel Exeter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        12 years, 1 month ago

        Could all change after Chelsea game.

    2. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Eh hello, he's the 5th highest owned forward - hardly flying under the radar. He was flagged on here the day he signed for Arsenal & 6.9m.

    3. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Typical Daniel post, claiming credit for picking the first choice Arsenal striker then slamming everyone else for copying.

  28. CTID_
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Sterling will get 150+ points this season people looking to swap him for some average player who has got a couple assist this season good luck.

  29. CTID_
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Jovetic will play vs Aston villa

    1. MJ6987
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Instead of Nasri maybe.

      1. CTID_
        12 years, 1 month ago

        nasri is out mate..milner has played the last 5 games

    2. Epic Fail
      12 years, 1 month ago

      Probably

  30. The Mandalorian
    12 years, 1 month ago

    Dat man again, not once, not twice but tree times...