[sbu_large_image] Preamble
19 September 2015 1764 comments
Mark Mark
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I’ve been observing the recent community discussion on “casual” Fantasy Football managers with interest.

Woeisme’s excellent recent article brought it further into focus and helped us digest the debate but, in my view, we’re treading over very familiar ground here.

The propensity to roll out the term “casual” and apply it liberally to a huge group of Fantasy Football managers, who have little interest in investing hours in their decision-making, is something that crops up almost every season.

It’s probably fair to say that the level of frustration being felt right now is greater than ever, hence the bile generated and aimed at this unfortunate group is perhaps more potent.

First of all, as Woeisme rightly pointed out, there’s little point in claiming that this “group” don’t exist.

There’s no doubt that the 3.5 million population of the FPL game includes an army of folk who pick a pre-season squad in a lunch hour, only revisiting it when their colleague at the water cooler remarks that they’re second in the mini-league.

That happens. It’s probably happened in thousands of offices and, the way this season is going, it will go on happening for some weeks.

Four years ago, I placed my tongue firmly in cheek and acknowledged this group of Fantasy Football Managers in this article. I’ve just read it back and it’s still relevant today.

Labelling the “casual” as “Part-time Petes”, I make no apology if I was disparaging to their cause and motivation – this was a piece glorying in Fantasy Football stereotypes and poking fun.

Some will doubtless say that by writing and drawing further attention to that article, I’m prolonging this mistreatment of the “casual” Fantasy Football manager.

That may well be the case but, in many ways, I think if we start becoming too sensitive to this kind of mirth, we’re starting to steal from the very essence that made the game fun in the first place.

Going back twenty years or more, Fantasy Football lived and breathed solely within a group of football fans, brought together by some numbers that appeared in a newspaper, distributed weekly by some poor soul who took it upon themselves to run the mini-league. I eagerly signed up for that position.

Just as folk back then aimed derisory terms my way by virtue of my number-crunching obsession, so I sniped back on their beermat transfer, hurried along whilst indulging in futile attempts at chatting up the receptionist.

There were clear divisions between the level of commitment and, when the points came in and those divisions didn’t quite work out as expected, the real fun began. While divided by our level of interest, we were brought together for a few minutes of ribbing each day by this “thing” called Fantasy Football.

That same “repartee” and “banter” goes on now, perhaps to a lesser degree face to face, but certainly via 140 characters or sly emails pinged across the office.

I try not to look upon those who choose not to spend three hours comparing Aston Villa full-backs with any disdain. Equally I don’t expect them to roll out the tired old “saddo” or “statto” moniker in my direction. I’m probably kidding myself on that score.

However, when the season begins and the early divide takes an unexpected turn, it would be a waste not to seize upon that opportunity to make hay.

I cut a miserable figure in the mid-table of my office league. Quite frankly, I expect to be on the receiving end when I face the guy who is winning the league: someone who is often too busy nursing a hangover on a Saturday morning to even know how important 11.45 is.

I’m not happy about it, but I’m quietly confident that I’m going make up ground and that by allocating 87% of my daily attention span to considering my transfers, I’ll eventually win out.

I can offer up a wry smile and revel in the fact that, for those brief moments, Fantasy Football in some way unites me with another football fan, albeit a very different one.

To some extent, on the site, we’re all brought together by a level of obsession and, as a result, an elitist view can build when looking upon those who don’t quite share that same obsession.

We should work to avoid that at all costs and instead glory in the fact that folk are different and that Fantasy Football can bring us together, whatever the level of investment, and provide a platform for “fun” and community.

This “casual” Fantasy manager exists and deserves their place in that bigger community and even their Gameweeks at the top of the mini-league. It’s a huge part of what makes Fantasy Football so compelling and the reason why I ended up here in the first place.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. FPL Daniel
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Early predictions who will score more this week:

    Pedro + Francis or
    Shaqiri + Benteke

    1. Milner4eva
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Shaq and Tekkers easy

    2. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hopefully the second one

      1. FPL Daniel
        11 years, 1 month ago

        I am hopefully on the second one

    3. Artorias
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Shaqiri + benteke as i own both pedro and francis

    4. EmreCan Hustle
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hopefully the first.

  2. Bubz
    11 years, 1 month ago

    High scoring game is all I ask for.

    1. S.Kuqi
      11 years, 1 month ago

      1-1 would suit me better with Sanchez scoring.

    2. Piggs Boson
      11 years, 1 month ago

      With Alexis and Costa involvement.

      And a Pedro blank 🙂

      1. meerlight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        need a pedro blank myself now :/

    3. Les Bleus
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Low scoring game is what I ask for.

  3. Alittude
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard going to slice through Arsenal defence like lemon meringue pie

    1. money face bandwagon
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Previous games didnt suggest that he could do that

      1. Alittude
        11 years, 1 month ago

        last years game does

    2. Manamongst
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Do you check your line-up every week??

    3. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Found behind the sofa after three long years, encrusted with lminous green bacteria, with the consistency of granite.

  4. S.Kuqi
    11 years, 1 month ago

    You adviced keep Pedro and I didn't listen...once again. Better get drunk and go hiding behind couch.

    1. NATSTER
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Most of people, who keep Pedro, put him on the bench.

      My guess.

      1. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
        11 years, 1 month ago

        nah we played him... he either starts or the bench takes over anyway... wasnt like he was ever gonna make a cameo.. same with diouf

  5. FPL Daniel
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Subs: Blackman, Terry, Mikel, Ramires, Loftus-Cheek, Falcao and Remy.
    Live commentary: http://che.lc/wZtgsN

    1. ​
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Not exactly a bench that screams options if they're chasing

    2. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Mourinho is playing for a win, could end up going very well... or egg on his face.

    3. Manamongst
      11 years, 1 month ago

      No Kenedy?

  6. Hy liverpool
    11 years, 1 month ago

    who's your captain all ??

    1. Milner4eva
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Agüero.

    2. Piggs Boson
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Mr. 13 million.

      1. ​
        11 years, 1 month ago

        I raise you to Mr 13.2 million.

        1. Piggs Boson
          11 years, 1 month ago

          I rounded 😉

          1. Rupert The Horse
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            11 years, 1 month ago

            You certainly are.

    3. Red Star Toro
      11 years, 1 month ago

      based mahrez

    4. Les Bleus
      11 years, 1 month ago

      The one and only.

    5. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Benteke

    6. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      i'm with the rest of the sheep

    7. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Tekkers

  7. The Raging Bull
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Ivanovic Captain. Jose losing his marbles or could be stroke of genius!

    1. Les Bleus
      11 years, 1 month ago

      The former.

    2. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      It's not FPL

    3. crushro
      11 years, 1 month ago

      He is vice captain so makes sense but whether he should be on the pitch...

  8. Les Bleus
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Pedro YC and taken off at 59 minutes for precaution anyone?

    1. white heart pain
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hatrick of assists for pedro

    2. Manamongst
      11 years, 1 month ago

      This. But at minute 64...

  9. the Penman
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Feckin' Pedro.

  10. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Zouma brought in to cover Walcott I guess, but don't think Fabregas is suited for this game. Although knowing Arsenal so well could have been a factor.

    1. ​
      11 years, 1 month ago

      The only players in the side he's played with are Cech, Walcott and Sanchez and only one of those was from time at Arsenal.

      1. ​
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Oh actually and a bit with Ramsey

        1. Azathoth
          11 years, 1 month ago

          and Cazorla

          1. ​
            11 years, 1 month ago

            okay at spain yeah

      2. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        But knowing their style. A mute point anyway really as I don't why he has started in a game like this. Loftus Cheek would have been much more suited.

        1. Manamongst
          11 years, 1 month ago

          moot point?

          Kenedy better suited for anything more than Loftus-Cheek.

      3. Greenbackbøøg…
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Cech?

        1. ​
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Chelsea last year

    2. Manamongst
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah he´s gonna be an albatross to Matic when Arsenal´s triangles start popping up in front of and around Chelsea´s box.

  11. Sean.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Pedro or Mahrez UFPL ?

    1. ​
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Mahrez

    2. meerlight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      mahrez

      1. Sean.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers lads

    3. milanista10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I went with Pedro

      1. Sean.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        I think i'll start Mahrez, got a few replacements for Sunday anyway ,
        it's so tight, probably got it wrong

  12. Alittude
    11 years, 1 month ago

    RESPECT THE HAWK

  13. NATSTER
    11 years, 1 month ago

    So, all Predro negative NTIs will be simply reset and he will be protected for a while again.

    I start to believe that he will be 9.5 forever. 😀

  14. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Guardian sport ‏@guardian_sport 24s25 seconds ago
    Liverpool’s Jordan Henderson faces up to two months out after breaking bone in foot.

    1. S.Kuqi
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Poor Hendo 🙁

      Coutinho taking all cks and fks then.

      1. NATSTER
        11 years, 1 month ago

        I think it could affect overall Liverpool performance.

        1. Manamongst
          11 years, 1 month ago

          For the better...I know I would go down a bit easier inside...and outside the box knowing that I migt get a shout at penos as well.

  15. Heels_Over_Head
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Can't believe people sold Pedro on José mind games

    1. Manamongst
      11 years, 1 month ago

      We sold him on Chelsea´s shitty performances...only casuals still listen to that sh&t.

  16. Greenbackbøøg…
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Why did people sell Pedro anyway, he's in decent enough form and has good fixtures after this

    1. Jordan.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      informed he was out and a red flag is pretty compelling...

    2. crushro
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Even though through week was def out, then only a doubt I preferred to bring in Payet as happier with a nearer looking 100% all playing first 11 even though up against City but without Kompany...

  17. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    MailOnline Sport ‏@MailSport 1m1 minute ago
    BREAKING: Jordan Henderson out for 6-8 weeks after suffering broken foot in Liverpool training.

    1. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      oh shite

    2. FPL Daniel
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Too bad for the lad. There goes that Hendo vs Milner debate

    3. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      11 years, 1 month ago

      There goes Brendan. No Hendo, No win

    4. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I'm not sure any non Liverpool fans realise how big a deal that is.

      1. Manamongst
        11 years, 1 month ago

        I´m not sure how much, (in the grand cesspool that is known as Liverpool´s recent performances), that Liverpool fans understand that he ain´t as good as they think he is...

        I´d rather be Ramsey...than a poor-man´s Ramsey...that happens to sit a lil too deep...

  18. milanista10
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Mahrez and Gomis on bench doesn't seem right!

    1. money face bandwagon
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Another attention seeking post

  19. Chucky
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Sanchez on Ivanovic? May as well kick the ball in our own net.Atleast now we can have a laugh or two while losing instead of just losing.

    1. S.Kuqi
      11 years, 1 month ago

      😀

  20. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    I reckon this game will be very spikey. YCs galore and a red for Costa wouldn't surprise me.

    1. Manamongst
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Was just thinking that..as long as Coquelin stays in his mode...

  21. Ups And Downs
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Sky game
    A) one captain Kun
    B) two capts Mahrez and Mane

  22. Heels_Over_Head
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Is Sturridge contagious?

  23. FPL Daniel
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Allllllllll out aaataaaaaaaaaackkkkk juuuhuuuuuuu. Feeling psyched for using a chip for the first time 😉

    1. Piggs Boson
      11 years, 1 month ago

      In a week with great defender choices?

      1. Jax
        11 years, 1 month ago

        can't see any

      2. FPL Daniel
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Which ones?

  24. Heels_Over_Head
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Janmaat owners high 5

    1. Heels_Over_Head
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Gooooooooo Rhinos!

    2. FPL Blow-In
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      O/

  25. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    @ Dan Walker on BBC sport

    According to the stats @LCFC currently have the 3 fastest players in the PL in Vardy, Mahrez & Albrighton #Speedy

    Surely not true?

    1. Jax
      11 years, 1 month ago

      fastest km covered this season not fastest overall.

    2. Heydudes13
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Vardy is raps.

    3. The Machine
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Based on this season

      Doesnt help that walcott is playing as cf and teams sit back. Not much space to run into

      1. Manamongst
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Hey well...Theo will essentially be running across the pitch...or diagonally...he is pretty much a one trick pony of runs. He ain´t holding it up...he´s not smart enough to lull defenders asleep like Messi, or jog it in deep, and catch them over the top.

    4. Manamongst
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Albrighton...he must have smoked a fat one...

  26. FPL Daniel
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Pedro flag removed = no price change again. Last time around 500k brought him for nothing. We have the new RVP boys and girls

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Oh dear lord a good point from Daniel.

  27. Jigger & Pony
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Come on Sanchez

  28. Piggs Boson
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Oh crap, Gink captained Mahrez. Well that's my H2H lost 😀

    1. Heels_Over_Head
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Oh my

    2. FPL Daniel
      11 years, 1 month ago

      RIP GB

    3. Manamongst
      11 years, 1 month ago

      He hit you with the okeedokie...

  29. Les Bleus
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Whose team also looks terrible for next GW?

  30. FPL Daniel
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Updated