[sbu_large_image] Preamble
19 September 2015 1764 comments
Mark Mark
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I’ve been observing the recent community discussion on “casual” Fantasy Football managers with interest.

Woeisme’s excellent recent article brought it further into focus and helped us digest the debate but, in my view, we’re treading over very familiar ground here.

The propensity to roll out the term “casual” and apply it liberally to a huge group of Fantasy Football managers, who have little interest in investing hours in their decision-making, is something that crops up almost every season.

It’s probably fair to say that the level of frustration being felt right now is greater than ever, hence the bile generated and aimed at this unfortunate group is perhaps more potent.

First of all, as Woeisme rightly pointed out, there’s little point in claiming that this “group” don’t exist.

There’s no doubt that the 3.5 million population of the FPL game includes an army of folk who pick a pre-season squad in a lunch hour, only revisiting it when their colleague at the water cooler remarks that they’re second in the mini-league.

That happens. It’s probably happened in thousands of offices and, the way this season is going, it will go on happening for some weeks.

Four years ago, I placed my tongue firmly in cheek and acknowledged this group of Fantasy Football Managers in this article. I’ve just read it back and it’s still relevant today.

Labelling the “casual” as “Part-time Petes”, I make no apology if I was disparaging to their cause and motivation – this was a piece glorying in Fantasy Football stereotypes and poking fun.

Some will doubtless say that by writing and drawing further attention to that article, I’m prolonging this mistreatment of the “casual” Fantasy Football manager.

That may well be the case but, in many ways, I think if we start becoming too sensitive to this kind of mirth, we’re starting to steal from the very essence that made the game fun in the first place.

Going back twenty years or more, Fantasy Football lived and breathed solely within a group of football fans, brought together by some numbers that appeared in a newspaper, distributed weekly by some poor soul who took it upon themselves to run the mini-league. I eagerly signed up for that position.

Just as folk back then aimed derisory terms my way by virtue of my number-crunching obsession, so I sniped back on their beermat transfer, hurried along whilst indulging in futile attempts at chatting up the receptionist.

There were clear divisions between the level of commitment and, when the points came in and those divisions didn’t quite work out as expected, the real fun began. While divided by our level of interest, we were brought together for a few minutes of ribbing each day by this “thing” called Fantasy Football.

That same “repartee” and “banter” goes on now, perhaps to a lesser degree face to face, but certainly via 140 characters or sly emails pinged across the office.

I try not to look upon those who choose not to spend three hours comparing Aston Villa full-backs with any disdain. Equally I don’t expect them to roll out the tired old “saddo” or “statto” moniker in my direction. I’m probably kidding myself on that score.

However, when the season begins and the early divide takes an unexpected turn, it would be a waste not to seize upon that opportunity to make hay.

I cut a miserable figure in the mid-table of my office league. Quite frankly, I expect to be on the receiving end when I face the guy who is winning the league: someone who is often too busy nursing a hangover on a Saturday morning to even know how important 11.45 is.

I’m not happy about it, but I’m quietly confident that I’m going make up ground and that by allocating 87% of my daily attention span to considering my transfers, I’ll eventually win out.

I can offer up a wry smile and revel in the fact that, for those brief moments, Fantasy Football in some way unites me with another football fan, albeit a very different one.

To some extent, on the site, we’re all brought together by a level of obsession and, as a result, an elitist view can build when looking upon those who don’t quite share that same obsession.

We should work to avoid that at all costs and instead glory in the fact that folk are different and that Fantasy Football can bring us together, whatever the level of investment, and provide a platform for “fun” and community.

This “casual” Fantasy manager exists and deserves their place in that bigger community and even their Gameweeks at the top of the mini-league. It’s a huge part of what makes Fantasy Football so compelling and the reason why I ended up here in the first place.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    When the missus heard that we refer to others as casuals on here she immediately thought it was elitist. But how else are we meant to describe people that play the game casually!? 🙂

    1. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Slackers

    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      the missus is right though in the way a lot use it..

    3. Ayew Serious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Normal

    4. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      We can call the casuals as non-FFS users

    5. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 19 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I draw parallels to "casual" supporters of their clubs. I don't go to Forest games, season ticket holders would probably regard me as a "casual" fan. Do I mind, I guess I have to acknowledge it as fair comment - I don't have the time to invest in supporting my club to that level - perhaps I don't really have the commitment or interest.

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        "plastic"?

      2. FPL Daniel
        • 17 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Spot on comment. Fully agree

        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          There's a surprise.

        2. Fitzy.
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          What??? You 'fully agree' with a comment from Mark? Shocked... 😯

        3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          something on your nose

        4. The Mighty One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Daniel always agrees with Mark...he is just not too fond of Jonty.

      3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Seen this trailer Mark?

        Loos decent... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4_6hVPyKZw

        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 19 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Yes, it really does. Really need to try to get out of the house to see that.

      4. Ghost Ship
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        good managers don't over manage
        #casualsaresmarterthanyouthink

    6. d1sable
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Not important enough to be my friend?

      Just kidding 🙂

    7. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      There is nothing wrong in elitism.

    8. KickIt
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Think it doesn't matter, casuals don't even know this is being discussed.

  2. ThatAsianGuy17
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    sako or bolasie?

  3. VT9
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Which 3 to start?

    Sagna - Williams - Darmian - Gomez - Richards

    Cheers!

  4. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Guys, the FPL lord is here for a few minutes to answer your questions, fire away.

    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Will Gomez start?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Yes.

    2. FPL Daniel
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Team in link 2 FT, no clue what to do. AOA chip? Waste a FT?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Too much effort to click on 3 or 4 links.

        1. FPL Daniel
          • 17 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          I thought you are the lord 🙁

    3. Demí
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Will Mourinho and Wenger shake hands?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Wenger won't shake Mourinhos.

        1. Jomica
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          depends on the result...

    4. The Machine
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Will breadbin return?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Who?

      2. Woy of the Wovers
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Why did he leave?

    5. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'm here for longer than that.

      1. 1zverGGademN
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Who did Huth > Bacuna for a free this week?

        1. 1zverGGademN
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          o/

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            This.

    6. 1zverGGademN
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Who to cap?
      Kun
      Benteke(currently)
      Sanchez
      Mane

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Kun

        1. 1zverGGademN
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          But is he nailed on 90 mins?

    7. Mohit20
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      mane-->sterling for free??

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Yes. Though, get Silva if you can afford it.

    8. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Who do I captain?

      Sánchez
      Agüero
      Benteke
      Yaya Touré
      Mahrez

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Aguero

    9. Jay_
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Who has bigger thighs, Shaquri or R.Carlos ?

      1. FISSH
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Carlos

    10. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Will Pedro start?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I'll let you know in 45 minutes.

        1. Bubz
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Thanks mate

    11. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Wilson or Aguero captain?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Aguero

    12. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      For these early afternoon kickoffs.. at What time do the football players involved have lunch ? What time is Pedro scheduled for lunch specifically

    13. Cristi@no R7
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Will mahrez(c) pay off?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Not as much as Aguero captain.

    14. ebb2sparky
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Skrtel or clyne and why?

  5. Tekkerslovakiaftw
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Play Sinclair (WBA) or payet (mci)

    1. 1zverGGademN
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Payet ofc 😉

    2. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 19 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I'd go Sinclair

  6. zencro 42
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Bottomed!

    Play Azpi (ARS) or Huth (stk)?

    1. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Huth

    2. Quinny___
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      AZpil

    3. Tekkerslovakiaftw
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Azpi

    4. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Huth

    5. 1zverGGademN
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Azpilicueta

    6. zencro 42
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Dang, mixed reactions

      1. 1zverGGademN
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        I already did Huth>Bacuna this week as a kind of punty upgrade ;d

        1. 1zverGGademN
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          keepd azpi as I was tempted to switch him to kolarov before price rises but Villa and Chelsea are having really tasty fixs onwards..

  7. Nonameentered
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Been completely out of it this week. How does this team look.. G2G? Right bench order?

    Butland
    Kolarov – Williams – Richards
    Sánchez – Silva – Mahrez – Ayew
    Agüero (C) – Benteke – Gomis
    --------------------------------------------------------
    McCarthy – Gomez – Westwood - Morgan

    1. Nonameentered
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Got 1 FT and 3.5m to play with

      1. supersan321
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        id be saving that transfer and playing Gomez over Williams

        1. YTUMAMMA
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          This!

    2. Evasivo
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I's play Gomez over Williams imo

  8. sweensa
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Morning all . Stuggling with keeper. Start Butland which my gut says for save points or Cech ?

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Cech vs his former club, probably save everything Chelsea throw at him today

    2. GENERATION X
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      u may get cleanie and saves with jack

    3. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Trust the guts

    4. sweensa
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Cheers folk. Revival that was my fear to be honest. Think I'll go with the gut and stuck with Butland. Cheers all

  9. keano
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    targett or micah richards to start?

    1. Sverdet
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Richards easily

  10. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Kun had 12 shots on goal in total, in both west ham games last season

  11. mccormibar
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Does anyone know where the quickest place to get the Chelsea team news is at quarter to 12 (for obvious reasons)

    Thanks

    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Here?

    2. Evasivo
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Here or Twitter

    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Mourinho or Twitter.

  12. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Richards or Dawson to start?

    1. FISSH
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Dawson

  13. vodkapad
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Can't see Chelsea losing today, 3-1 I think

  14. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone else gone Sanchez (c)?

    1. Jam0sh
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I think someone has

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Just you.

      1. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Nice. Great differential.

    3. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yup. So far...

  15. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Expecting a cameo from that receptionist on the next ScoutCast to clear up which bunch is actually the worst to be around.

  16. Jam0sh
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Collins, am I good to go with no bench:

    Ruddy
    Kolarov, Cedric, Huth
    Silva, Chadli, Mahrez, Sanchez
    Aguero, Wilson, Pelle

    subs: Rudd --- Mertesacker, Saylor, Bentaleb --- 0 FT, 1.5 ITB

    1. Evasivo
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      You captaining Wilson?

  17. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    We seem to be traveling backwards......

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hit the brakes

    2. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour... you're gonna see some serious sh1t

  18. Mohit20
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    what to do with mane??

    1. DickFranDyke
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Cut him from squad.

    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Keep and play!

    3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      nice meal, couple of drinks, maybe a show?

    4. wheato
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I've got him.

      I think 2FT next week outweighs shipping this.

    5. YTUMAMMA
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hold and play this week. Ship next...

  19. FootballFanatic365
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    repost

    start

    1 diouf
    or
    2 gomis

    1. YTUMAMMA
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Both?...

  20. athreya
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Ayew or Gomis for captain. If I want to avoid captaining Kun.

    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Ayew

    2. kalmoffit
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Gomis

    3. athreya
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Thanks. Will chicken out and switch to Kun at last minute:-(

  21. white heart pain
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Pedro playing?

    1. white heart pain
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Teams out yet?

  22. Still Unsure
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Many Silva captainers around here?

    1. white heart pain
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Sticking with aguero!

    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Yep I'm doing it

  23. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    This business with casuals happens early on every season.

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      You all set? 🙂

      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Not sure Doos, debating Butland to Gomes.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 10 months ago

          Blimey. I'm playing Butland! 😀

          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 10 months ago

            So am I, as it stands. That leaky defence though. Watford will be good for cleanies don't you think?

    2. DickFranDyke
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      What about the semi casuals? Those inbetween the die hard but do more research than the casual? hmmmm

  24. gers23
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    It's the people who kid on their casuals that annoy me.When they give it as much thought as i do!!

  25. Your Mum's Athletic
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    If you got the Chelsea team news just before the deadline and Pedro was on the bench, would you auto-click a transfer to Ayew?

    1. FISSH
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I would get cabaye

    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      I would do it regardless. But I would not have bought him, either.

    3. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      No, they play against Arsenal.

      1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Eh, I thought you are buying Pedro in.

        In that case, do the transfer.

    4. Valar(Keith)
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      i'd sub him out for Shelvey on my bench.. wont transfer him out cause it'll mean he is back next week

  26. OptimusBlack
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    It worth to get Defender from liverpool for this Gw and next ???

    Yaaay Skartel or Gomez

    Naay

    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Not enough information in this question to give a good answer

    2. wheato
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Nah

  27. FPL_DON
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Kun or Tekkers for captain? Tossing and turning over this one haha

    1. wheato
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Im braving Benteke

      1. FPL_DON
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Same i think mate, cheers

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Get out of bed and make a decision.

      Kun for me.

      1. FPL_DON
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Haha yeah good shout xD

    3. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Tough , staying with Bentekker though

      1. Debauchy
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 10 months ago

        Benteke

  28. Nonameentered
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    Choose two: Williams (EVE), Richards (WBA), Morgan (stk), Gomez (NOR)

    1. wheato
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      First 2

    2. YTUMAMMA
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Williams and Gomez

  29. cheeky_ash
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    I'm considering doing

    Gomis -> Tekkers for a free....good idea?

    1. YTUMAMMA
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 10 months ago

      Hard to say.... I'd prob do it, based on Tekkers upcoming fixtures alone.
      But good idea?... Only time will tell!
      Nice idea, yeah sure.

  30. Evs
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 10 months ago

    @ Mark

    I have stuck with Memphis 🙄