[sbu_large_image] Preamble
19 September 2015 1764 comments
Mark Mark
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I’ve been observing the recent community discussion on “casual” Fantasy Football managers with interest.

Woeisme’s excellent recent article brought it further into focus and helped us digest the debate but, in my view, we’re treading over very familiar ground here.

The propensity to roll out the term “casual” and apply it liberally to a huge group of Fantasy Football managers, who have little interest in investing hours in their decision-making, is something that crops up almost every season.

It’s probably fair to say that the level of frustration being felt right now is greater than ever, hence the bile generated and aimed at this unfortunate group is perhaps more potent.

First of all, as Woeisme rightly pointed out, there’s little point in claiming that this “group” don’t exist.

There’s no doubt that the 3.5 million population of the FPL game includes an army of folk who pick a pre-season squad in a lunch hour, only revisiting it when their colleague at the water cooler remarks that they’re second in the mini-league.

That happens. It’s probably happened in thousands of offices and, the way this season is going, it will go on happening for some weeks.

Four years ago, I placed my tongue firmly in cheek and acknowledged this group of Fantasy Football Managers in this article. I’ve just read it back and it’s still relevant today.

Labelling the “casual” as “Part-time Petes”, I make no apology if I was disparaging to their cause and motivation – this was a piece glorying in Fantasy Football stereotypes and poking fun.

Some will doubtless say that by writing and drawing further attention to that article, I’m prolonging this mistreatment of the “casual” Fantasy Football manager.

That may well be the case but, in many ways, I think if we start becoming too sensitive to this kind of mirth, we’re starting to steal from the very essence that made the game fun in the first place.

Going back twenty years or more, Fantasy Football lived and breathed solely within a group of football fans, brought together by some numbers that appeared in a newspaper, distributed weekly by some poor soul who took it upon themselves to run the mini-league. I eagerly signed up for that position.

Just as folk back then aimed derisory terms my way by virtue of my number-crunching obsession, so I sniped back on their beermat transfer, hurried along whilst indulging in futile attempts at chatting up the receptionist.

There were clear divisions between the level of commitment and, when the points came in and those divisions didn’t quite work out as expected, the real fun began. While divided by our level of interest, we were brought together for a few minutes of ribbing each day by this “thing” called Fantasy Football.

That same “repartee” and “banter” goes on now, perhaps to a lesser degree face to face, but certainly via 140 characters or sly emails pinged across the office.

I try not to look upon those who choose not to spend three hours comparing Aston Villa full-backs with any disdain. Equally I don’t expect them to roll out the tired old “saddo” or “statto” moniker in my direction. I’m probably kidding myself on that score.

However, when the season begins and the early divide takes an unexpected turn, it would be a waste not to seize upon that opportunity to make hay.

I cut a miserable figure in the mid-table of my office league. Quite frankly, I expect to be on the receiving end when I face the guy who is winning the league: someone who is often too busy nursing a hangover on a Saturday morning to even know how important 11.45 is.

I’m not happy about it, but I’m quietly confident that I’m going make up ground and that by allocating 87% of my daily attention span to considering my transfers, I’ll eventually win out.

I can offer up a wry smile and revel in the fact that, for those brief moments, Fantasy Football in some way unites me with another football fan, albeit a very different one.

To some extent, on the site, we’re all brought together by a level of obsession and, as a result, an elitist view can build when looking upon those who don’t quite share that same obsession.

We should work to avoid that at all costs and instead glory in the fact that folk are different and that Fantasy Football can bring us together, whatever the level of investment, and provide a platform for “fun” and community.

This “casual” Fantasy manager exists and deserves their place in that bigger community and even their Gameweeks at the top of the mini-league. It’s a huge part of what makes Fantasy Football so compelling and the reason why I ended up here in the first place.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Piggs Boson
    11 years, 1 month ago

    When the missus heard that we refer to others as casuals on here she immediately thought it was elitist. But how else are we meant to describe people that play the game casually!? 🙂

    1. Jafooli
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Slackers

    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      the missus is right though in the way a lot use it..

    3. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Normal

    4. Eden Hazardous
      11 years, 1 month ago

      We can call the casuals as non-FFS users

    5. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I draw parallels to "casual" supporters of their clubs. I don't go to Forest games, season ticket holders would probably regard me as a "casual" fan. Do I mind, I guess I have to acknowledge it as fair comment - I don't have the time to invest in supporting my club to that level - perhaps I don't really have the commitment or interest.

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        "plastic"?

      2. FPL Daniel
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Spot on comment. Fully agree

        1. RoysCallerAnne
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 1 month ago

          There's a surprise.

        2. Fitzy.
          11 years, 1 month ago

          What??? You 'fully agree' with a comment from Mark? Shocked... 😯

        3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 1 month ago

          something on your nose

        4. The Mighty One
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Daniel always agrees with Mark...he is just not too fond of Jonty.

      3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Seen this trailer Mark?

        Loos decent... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4_6hVPyKZw

        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Yes, it really does. Really need to try to get out of the house to see that.

      4. Ghost Ship
        11 years, 1 month ago

        good managers don't over manage
        #casualsaresmarterthanyouthink

    6. d1sable
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Not important enough to be my friend?

      Just kidding 🙂

    7. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      11 years, 1 month ago

      There is nothing wrong in elitism.

    8. KickIt
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Think it doesn't matter, casuals don't even know this is being discussed.

  2. ThatAsianGuy17
    11 years, 1 month ago

    sako or bolasie?

  3. VT9
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Which 3 to start?

    Sagna - Williams - Darmian - Gomez - Richards

    Cheers!

  4. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Guys, the FPL lord is here for a few minutes to answer your questions, fire away.

    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Will Gomez start?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Yes.

    2. FPL Daniel
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Team in link 2 FT, no clue what to do. AOA chip? Waste a FT?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Too much effort to click on 3 or 4 links.

        1. FPL Daniel
          11 years, 1 month ago

          I thought you are the lord 🙁

    3. Demí
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Will Mourinho and Wenger shake hands?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Wenger won't shake Mourinhos.

        1. Jomica
          11 years, 1 month ago

          depends on the result...

    4. The Machine
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Will breadbin return?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Who?

      2. Woy of the Wovers
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Why did he leave?

    5. Epic Fail
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I'm here for longer than that.

      1. 1zverGGademN
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Who did Huth > Bacuna for a free this week?

        1. 1zverGGademN
          11 years, 1 month ago

          o/

          1. Epic Fail
            11 years, 1 month ago

            This.

    6. 1zverGGademN
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Who to cap?
      Kun
      Benteke(currently)
      Sanchez
      Mane

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Kun

        1. 1zverGGademN
          11 years, 1 month ago

          But is he nailed on 90 mins?

    7. Mohit20
      11 years, 1 month ago

      mane-->sterling for free??

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Yes. Though, get Silva if you can afford it.

    8. Every Dog Has Its Day
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Who do I captain?

      Sánchez
      Agüero
      Benteke
      Yaya Touré
      Mahrez

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Aguero

    9. Jay_
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Who has bigger thighs, Shaquri or R.Carlos ?

      1. FISSH
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Carlos

    10. Bubz
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Will Pedro start?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        I'll let you know in 45 minutes.

        1. Bubz
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Thanks mate

    11. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Wilson or Aguero captain?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Aguero

    12. Valar(Keith)
      11 years, 1 month ago

      For these early afternoon kickoffs.. at What time do the football players involved have lunch ? What time is Pedro scheduled for lunch specifically

    13. Cristi@no R7
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Will mahrez(c) pay off?

      1. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Not as much as Aguero captain.

    14. ebb2sparky
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Skrtel or clyne and why?

  5. Tekkerslovakiaftw
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Play Sinclair (WBA) or payet (mci)

    1. 1zverGGademN
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Payet ofc 😉

    2. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I'd go Sinclair

  6. zencro 42
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Bottomed!

    Play Azpi (ARS) or Huth (stk)?

    1. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Huth

    2. Quinny___
      11 years, 1 month ago

      AZpil

    3. Tekkerslovakiaftw
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Azpi

    4. Epic Fail
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Huth

    5. 1zverGGademN
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Azpilicueta

    6. zencro 42
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Dang, mixed reactions

      1. 1zverGGademN
        11 years, 1 month ago

        I already did Huth>Bacuna this week as a kind of punty upgrade ;d

        1. 1zverGGademN
          11 years, 1 month ago

          keepd azpi as I was tempted to switch him to kolarov before price rises but Villa and Chelsea are having really tasty fixs onwards..

  7. Nonameentered
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Been completely out of it this week. How does this team look.. G2G? Right bench order?

    Butland
    Kolarov – Williams – Richards
    Sánchez – Silva – Mahrez – Ayew
    Agüero (C) – Benteke – Gomis
    --------------------------------------------------------
    McCarthy – Gomez – Westwood - Morgan

    1. Nonameentered
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Got 1 FT and 3.5m to play with

      1. supersan321
        11 years, 1 month ago

        id be saving that transfer and playing Gomez over Williams

        1. YTUMAMMA
          11 years, 1 month ago

          This!

    2. Evasivo
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I's play Gomez over Williams imo

  8. sweensa
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Morning all . Stuggling with keeper. Start Butland which my gut says for save points or Cech ?

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Cech vs his former club, probably save everything Chelsea throw at him today

    2. GENERATION X
      11 years, 1 month ago

      u may get cleanie and saves with jack

    3. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Trust the guts

    4. sweensa
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers folk. Revival that was my fear to be honest. Think I'll go with the gut and stuck with Butland. Cheers all

  9. keano
    11 years, 1 month ago

    targett or micah richards to start?

    1. Sverdet
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Richards easily

  10. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Kun had 12 shots on goal in total, in both west ham games last season

  11. mccormibar
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Does anyone know where the quickest place to get the Chelsea team news is at quarter to 12 (for obvious reasons)

    Thanks

    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Here?

    2. Evasivo
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Here or Twitter

    3. Epic Fail
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Mourinho or Twitter.

  12. Fernando Torres
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Richards or Dawson to start?

    1. FISSH
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Dawson

  13. vodkapad
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Can't see Chelsea losing today, 3-1 I think

  14. Royal5
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else gone Sanchez (c)?

    1. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I think someone has

    2. Epic Fail
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Just you.

      1. Royal5
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Nice. Great differential.

    3. Every Dog Has Its Day
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yup. So far...

  15. Gargamel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Expecting a cameo from that receptionist on the next ScoutCast to clear up which bunch is actually the worst to be around.

  16. Jam0sh
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Collins, am I good to go with no bench:

    Ruddy
    Kolarov, Cedric, Huth
    Silva, Chadli, Mahrez, Sanchez
    Aguero, Wilson, Pelle

    subs: Rudd --- Mertesacker, Saylor, Bentaleb --- 0 FT, 1.5 ITB

    1. Evasivo
      11 years, 1 month ago

      You captaining Wilson?

  17. Jafooli
    11 years, 1 month ago

    We seem to be traveling backwards......

    1. Revival
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hit the brakes

    2. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour... you're gonna see some serious sh1t

  18. Mohit20
    11 years, 1 month ago

    what to do with mane??

    1. DickFranDyke
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Cut him from squad.

    2. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Keep and play!

    3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      nice meal, couple of drinks, maybe a show?

    4. wheato
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I've got him.

      I think 2FT next week outweighs shipping this.

    5. YTUMAMMA
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hold and play this week. Ship next...

  19. FootballFanatic365
    11 years, 1 month ago

    repost

    start

    1 diouf
    or
    2 gomis

    1. YTUMAMMA
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Both?...

  20. athreya
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Ayew or Gomis for captain. If I want to avoid captaining Kun.

    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Ayew

    2. kalmoffit
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Gomis

    3. athreya
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks. Will chicken out and switch to Kun at last minute:-(

  21. white heart pain
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Pedro playing?

    1. white heart pain
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Teams out yet?

  22. Still Unsure
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Many Silva captainers around here?

    1. white heart pain
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Sticking with aguero!

    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yep I'm doing it

  23. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    This business with casuals happens early on every season.

    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      You all set? 🙂

      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Not sure Doos, debating Butland to Gomes.

        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Blimey. I'm playing Butland! 😀

          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            11 years, 1 month ago

            So am I, as it stands. That leaky defence though. Watford will be good for cleanies don't you think?

    2. DickFranDyke
      11 years, 1 month ago

      What about the semi casuals? Those inbetween the die hard but do more research than the casual? hmmmm

  24. gers23
    11 years, 1 month ago

    It's the people who kid on their casuals that annoy me.When they give it as much thought as i do!!

  25. Your Mum's Athletic
    11 years, 1 month ago

    If you got the Chelsea team news just before the deadline and Pedro was on the bench, would you auto-click a transfer to Ayew?

    1. FISSH
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I would get cabaye

    2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I would do it regardless. But I would not have bought him, either.

    3. Van Klinkert Delarosa
      11 years, 1 month ago

      No, they play against Arsenal.

      1. Van Klinkert Delarosa
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Eh, I thought you are buying Pedro in.

        In that case, do the transfer.

    4. Valar(Keith)
      11 years, 1 month ago

      i'd sub him out for Shelvey on my bench.. wont transfer him out cause it'll mean he is back next week

  26. OptimusBlack
    11 years, 1 month ago

    It worth to get Defender from liverpool for this Gw and next ???

    Yaaay Skartel or Gomez

    Naay

    1. Gargamel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Not enough information in this question to give a good answer

    2. wheato
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Nah

  27. FPL_DON
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Kun or Tekkers for captain? Tossing and turning over this one haha

    1. wheato
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Im braving Benteke

      1. FPL_DON
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Same i think mate, cheers

    2. Epic Fail
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Get out of bed and make a decision.

      Kun for me.

      1. FPL_DON
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Haha yeah good shout xD

    3. Debauchy
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Tough , staying with Bentekker though

      1. Debauchy
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Benteke

  28. Nonameentered
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Choose two: Williams (EVE), Richards (WBA), Morgan (stk), Gomez (NOR)

    1. wheato
      11 years, 1 month ago

      First 2

    2. YTUMAMMA
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Williams and Gomez

  29. cheeky_ash
    11 years, 1 month ago

    I'm considering doing

    Gomis -> Tekkers for a free....good idea?

    1. YTUMAMMA
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Hard to say.... I'd prob do it, based on Tekkers upcoming fixtures alone.
      But good idea?... Only time will tell!
      Nice idea, yeah sure.

  30. Evs
    • Has Moderation Rights
    11 years, 1 month ago

    @ Mark

    I have stuck with Memphis 🙄