[sbu_large_image] Preamble
19 September 2015 1764 comments
Mark Mark
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I’ve been observing the recent community discussion on “casual” Fantasy Football managers with interest.

Woeisme’s excellent recent article brought it further into focus and helped us digest the debate but, in my view, we’re treading over very familiar ground here.

The propensity to roll out the term “casual” and apply it liberally to a huge group of Fantasy Football managers, who have little interest in investing hours in their decision-making, is something that crops up almost every season.

It’s probably fair to say that the level of frustration being felt right now is greater than ever, hence the bile generated and aimed at this unfortunate group is perhaps more potent.

First of all, as Woeisme rightly pointed out, there’s little point in claiming that this “group” don’t exist.

There’s no doubt that the 3.5 million population of the FPL game includes an army of folk who pick a pre-season squad in a lunch hour, only revisiting it when their colleague at the water cooler remarks that they’re second in the mini-league.

That happens. It’s probably happened in thousands of offices and, the way this season is going, it will go on happening for some weeks.

Four years ago, I placed my tongue firmly in cheek and acknowledged this group of Fantasy Football Managers in this article. I’ve just read it back and it’s still relevant today.

Labelling the “casual” as “Part-time Petes”, I make no apology if I was disparaging to their cause and motivation – this was a piece glorying in Fantasy Football stereotypes and poking fun.

Some will doubtless say that by writing and drawing further attention to that article, I’m prolonging this mistreatment of the “casual” Fantasy Football manager.

That may well be the case but, in many ways, I think if we start becoming too sensitive to this kind of mirth, we’re starting to steal from the very essence that made the game fun in the first place.

Going back twenty years or more, Fantasy Football lived and breathed solely within a group of football fans, brought together by some numbers that appeared in a newspaper, distributed weekly by some poor soul who took it upon themselves to run the mini-league. I eagerly signed up for that position.

Just as folk back then aimed derisory terms my way by virtue of my number-crunching obsession, so I sniped back on their beermat transfer, hurried along whilst indulging in futile attempts at chatting up the receptionist.

There were clear divisions between the level of commitment and, when the points came in and those divisions didn’t quite work out as expected, the real fun began. While divided by our level of interest, we were brought together for a few minutes of ribbing each day by this “thing” called Fantasy Football.

That same “repartee” and “banter” goes on now, perhaps to a lesser degree face to face, but certainly via 140 characters or sly emails pinged across the office.

I try not to look upon those who choose not to spend three hours comparing Aston Villa full-backs with any disdain. Equally I don’t expect them to roll out the tired old “saddo” or “statto” moniker in my direction. I’m probably kidding myself on that score.

However, when the season begins and the early divide takes an unexpected turn, it would be a waste not to seize upon that opportunity to make hay.

I cut a miserable figure in the mid-table of my office league. Quite frankly, I expect to be on the receiving end when I face the guy who is winning the league: someone who is often too busy nursing a hangover on a Saturday morning to even know how important 11.45 is.

I’m not happy about it, but I’m quietly confident that I’m going make up ground and that by allocating 87% of my daily attention span to considering my transfers, I’ll eventually win out.

I can offer up a wry smile and revel in the fact that, for those brief moments, Fantasy Football in some way unites me with another football fan, albeit a very different one.

To some extent, on the site, we’re all brought together by a level of obsession and, as a result, an elitist view can build when looking upon those who don’t quite share that same obsession.

We should work to avoid that at all costs and instead glory in the fact that folk are different and that Fantasy Football can bring us together, whatever the level of investment, and provide a platform for “fun” and community.

This “casual” Fantasy manager exists and deserves their place in that bigger community and even their Gameweeks at the top of the mini-league. It’s a huge part of what makes Fantasy Football so compelling and the reason why I ended up here in the first place.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Blue Gaffer
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Would you rather captain an in form player in an out of form team or an out of form player in an in form team?

    1. Les Bleus
      11 years, 1 month ago

      The former.

  2. The Man Pastore
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Diouf --> Benteke for -4pts, yay or nay?

    1. OptimusBlack
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yaaay and C him

    2. Danny x-factor
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Nay

    3. Kevtheotter
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yea

    4. YTUMAMMA
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Nope.

  3. Eden Hazardous
    11 years, 1 month ago

    If Mourinho and Wenger shake hands , Draw
    If Wenger steps into Jose's technical area , Chelsea win
    If Jose walks into the tunnel without a handshake , Arsenal win

    1. 1zverGGademN
      11 years, 1 month ago

      C

    2. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      11 years, 1 month ago

      If jose farts shamelessly loud, Haz red card

      1. YTUMAMMA
        11 years, 1 month ago

        I'd love to see this!..
        Maybe sharts instead, so still has to book it down the tunnel without a handshake!
        But Chelsea win....

  4. Danny x-factor
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Gomes
    Francis . Kolarov . Clyne
    Ayew . Yaya Touré . Barkley . Mahrez(VC)
    Costa . Agüero . Wilson(c)
    Subs: Butland . Westwood . Prödl . Targett

    Good to go?

    1. Evasivo
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Spot on!

  5. drughi
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Yaya or KDB ?

    1. Danny x-factor
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yaya

    2. Brazooka
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yaya

  6. FPL Daniel
    11 years, 1 month ago

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CPQiAZaUcAANsCH.png

    This is a must read

  7. Jazz!
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Will Sunderland score?

    1. Les Bleus
      11 years, 1 month ago

      When you find out, can you tell me the winning lottery numbers?

    2. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    3. FPL Daniel
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I want to know that too

  8. Dr Dream
    11 years, 1 month ago

    If Predo starts and the timing allows is he a better pick than Sako ?...

      1. Dr Dream
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed. He's a bit over priced really.

      2. Francescoli
        11 years, 1 month ago

        how you looking this week doos? who did you end up captaining?

        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          11 years, 1 month ago

          GW 6:

          Butland
          Kolarov*, Koscielny, Gomez
          Sánchez(c), Cazorla, Yaya Touré*, Mahrez*
          Agüero(vc), Gomis, C. Wilson*

          Schmeichel; Francis, Williams, Kouyaté … FT, 0.9 ITB, TC: 102.0, SV: 101.1

          1. Francescoli
            11 years, 1 month ago

            looking solid

            1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              11 years, 1 month ago

              Cheers, Jeanz. 🙂

          2. Jazz!
            11 years, 1 month ago

            I'll have to hugely disagree with the Sanchez captaincy pick. I don't see Arsenal scoring, and it's an early kick off game

          3. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            11 years, 1 month ago

            Youre not tempted to vc captain Mahrez?

            1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              11 years, 1 month ago

              No - he is slipping down the stats a bit ...

        2. Jazz!
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Sanchez.

  9. Manani
    11 years, 1 month ago

    play dawson or francis??

  10. 1zverGGademN
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Ok, chaps. Armbrand stayed through the week on Tekkers, but after 10-minutes cameo vs Juve, Kun looks very fierce and motivated to hit the ground, so I can really see him explodes this week with a hatty at least if not goals and assist.. My ML rivals ain't got him so I got Kun as a differential and my question is what to do? To kep faith in Tekkers brace tommorow or go with obvious choice and cap Kun? Thanks for opinions 🙂 !

    1. Bobby
      11 years, 1 month ago

      People say this every week

    2. Debauchy
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Holding firm here, but , go with gut

  11. keano
    11 years, 1 month ago

    McCarthy or butland?

    cheers

    1. King H
      11 years, 1 month ago

      McCarthy.. spurs won't score. Mahrez to score for the foxes today

  12. VT9
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Start Williams (EVE) or Richards (WBA)?
    CHeers!

    1. King H
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Richards

  13. Bobby
    11 years, 1 month ago

    This people is the week where my captain scores more than two points and my keeper gets a clean sheet. The top two million im coming for you

    1. Kagawa-san-mia
      11 years, 1 month ago

      so 3 points then

  14. King H
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Kolarov (C)
    Here we gooo

  15. Egg noodle
    11 years, 1 month ago

    If there was a paid service where team sheets were released 75 minutes early instead of 60, how much would you be willing to pay for it, individually or as a whole community?

    1. @ocprodigy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      It'd ruin the fun.

    2. THE Wild Rover
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I prefer not knowing, part of the drama

      1. Demí
        11 years, 1 month ago

        100% this

    3. Piggs Boson
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe a £1. You offering? 🙂

      1. Egg noodle
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Na its just something that cropped up, but I'm quite confident that there's enough people around who could set up something like it with minimal effort. With all these minimum wage lads working in stadiums these days, couldnt be that difficult.

    4. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I'd do it on a week by week basis because it doesn't always affect me and if it does, they're usually a sure thing.

      id dish out a fiver every time I needed it.

  16. Your Mum's Athletic
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Quinny source?????

    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      11 years, 1 month ago

      PJ Harvey.

  17. Je suis le chat
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Morning folks. Any sign of the chap confidently predicted Liverpool teamsheets and told us so after the fact. Need confidence in Gomez as only have 3 defenders. Thanks.

    1. 1zverGGademN
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Gomez Sakho Skrtel Clyne
      Milner Can Lallana
      Coutinho------------------Firmino
      ---------Benteke------------

    2. RoysCallerAnne
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      BR could go with Gomez in a back 3.
      I wouldn't be overly worried that he will be dropped. But I would be a little worried.
      Not worried enough to take him out for a hit though.

    3. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      He also said Brendan would get sacked on Monday.....

      1. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Last monday

    4. E25
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Stick with Gomez

  18. dehat
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Cech
    Kolarov-Gomez-Francis
    Ayew-Mane-Silva-Mahrez
    Aguero-Wilson-Benteke(c)

    Subs:
    Schmeichel-Payet-Cedric-Huth

    G2G?

  19. Iinvin
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Pedro > coutinho For a free?

    1. King H
      11 years, 1 month ago

      No

  20. Canelo
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Start Pantilimon or McCarthy?

    Start Huth or Azpil?

    1. Yankee Toffee
      11 years, 1 month ago

      McC and Azpi for me

    2. King H
      11 years, 1 month ago

      McC and Azpli

  21. Sliver
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Chadli or Sakho?

    1. Yankee Toffee
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Sakho atm

    2. King H
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Crystel Palaces Sako.... Yes

  22. Del Monte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    I have Mahrez and I have 6.6 for a midfielder.

    It can be a 1 week punt!

    1. Demí
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Lens. Do it

      1. Del Monte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Away at BOU?

        BOU are good at home!

        1. Demí
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Think Sunderland are more comfortable away. Bournemouth look championship to me. Sunderland are improving

        2. Jazz!
          11 years, 1 month ago

          They'll concede

  23. ST United
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Bottomed....

    Mahrez blank this week??

    LEI only scored 2 goals on the road so far...

    Stoke in Stoke still classed as a tough fixture??? Thoughts anyone

    1. YTUMAMMA
      11 years, 1 month ago

      There's always the possibility of Stoke being Stoke at home, even though they haven't looked like Stoke so far.... They'd need a coupla CS first to class it as a tough fixture tho IMO.

  24. Yankee Toffee
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Wilson (c) thoughts....

    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Maverick factor = 8

      1. Yankee Toffee
        11 years, 1 month ago

        highly rated, well Maverick paid off last week.

        Who are you on atm?

        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Boring old Aguero. Can't chance it and I'm hoping my lineup will carry me when he two points.

          1. Yankee Toffee
            11 years, 1 month ago

            Good luck, Mark! Appreciate the shout out in the scoutcast.

      2. Eden Hazardous
        11 years, 1 month ago

        😀

          1. Jafooli
            11 years, 1 month ago

            😆

      3. THE Wild Rover
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Still waiting on reply page 1 😉

        1. Yankee Toffee
          11 years, 1 month ago

          do it, WR

    2. Piggs Boson
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Very brave. I hope it comes off for you!

  25. Red Star Toro
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Captain:

    A) Kun
    B) Tekkers
    C) Mahrez
    D) Kolarov

    first to 3 wins

    1. Ayew Serious
      11 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. Loðbrók
      11 years, 1 month ago

      tekkers

    3. Epic Fail
      11 years, 1 month ago

      B

    4. Epic Fail
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Link to team please?

    5. Les Bleus
      11 years, 1 month ago

      A

    6. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      11 years, 1 month ago

      C

  26. bodsc
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Which one would you drop?

    Francis(SUN) Richards(WBA) Dawson(AVL) Williams(EVE)?

    Cheers

    1. dehat
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Richards

    2. Buck The Trent
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Rich

    3. Joga Bonito®
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Williams.

  27. Bazzalona
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Personally i think pedro will start. Just a gut feeling.
    Not gonna transfer him out don't see much value in similar priced players - already have silva coutinho for example.
    Option is ben davies and possible clean sheet so hope my instinct is right.
    For once.....

    1. Mark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      11 years, 1 month ago

      I think you might be right. You have to wonder if it was limp mind games from Mourinho but then I'm suspicious of his every word and gesture.

  28. Lizard Lips
    11 years, 1 month ago

    (A) Richards or (B) Darmian or (C) Williams?

    First to 3 WINS!!!

    1. Bazzalona
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Darmian

  29. Eden Hazardous
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Half an hour to go!

  30. CC22
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    11 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard to Silva/KDB for free?

    1. Epic Fail
      11 years, 1 month ago

      KDB

    2. #WinterIsNotComing
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Already 5 GW late 😛 just do it.

      1. CC22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Very true. I'm just constantly scared he'll come good and bite me the minute I get rid!

        1. #WinterIsNotComing
          11 years, 1 month ago

          Haven't got him since start and I think it was good decision. Eats up to much funds.

    3. Hinchcliffe Thumper
      11 years, 1 month ago

      Kdb

      1. CC22
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        11 years, 1 month ago

        Pretty definitive. Cheers all!