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Dugout Discussion – Germany vs Ukraine

12 June 2016 1340 comments
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We conclude Sunday’s events with a floodlit clash between Germany and Ukraine in Group C.

Germany will undoubtedly be considered favourites to begin their campaign with a victory. However, question mark remains over Joachim Löw’s side in a number of positions and their form on arrival in France is far from convincing. Defeats to England and Slovakia in pre-tournament friendlies has raised doubts in the German camp.

Their opponents will head into the contest with some confidence. Ukraine have won nine of their last 13 outings, with victories in their last four. A 1-0 reverse at the hands of Spain has been their only setback in this impressive spell.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Up the tics
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    How many total players are playing the Uefa euro fantasy? Does anyone know?

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    1. The Wise Owl
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Just over a million.

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      1. Up the tics
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks, I'm sittin at 70k which isn't bad tbh

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    2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      1204065

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    3. Demel
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I didn't realise it was that many. 529 for me. (61 points)

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      1. Yolo Toure
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        7093 (52 points)

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      2. Ruth_NZ
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Whether that is any good or not depends on who you still have to play (and how many points you have to remove to sub players in).

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  2. Kiwivillan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Help me Obi-Wan KDB. You are my only hope

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  3. Demel
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Some help please. How do I make a substitute in the Euros game? I am trying to bring my Spanish players in and failing badly.

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    1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Go to the My Team tab.

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      1. Demel
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks. It wasn't worjing for me on the internet page but I have managed it through the app.

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        1. cutch
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          The internet web is sometimes failing miserably. Have you accepted the use of cookies? Accepting the cookies solve some of the problems. Good luck.

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  4. Nickofoz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Captain Alba or Hazard?

    Don't have any players left over after tonight 🙂

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    1. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Alba for me because fancy a Spain clean sheet.

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      1. Nickofoz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Think I'm leaning that way too, cheers 🙂

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  5. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Current rank of 5k with only juanfran, fabregas and dragovic left to play. Rank slide imminent?

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    1. Eze Really?
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Same: KDB Alaba Drgovic. I will be happy with a kdb assist Alaba assist and Austria clean sheet.

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  6. Zasa
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    It's like a shock of cold water waking up and hearing this story after being in New York for the Pride festivities, that despite all those who are accepting and tolerant there are still those who hate to the point of violence.

    As depressed as this story is making me, I still think about how accepting the majority is in America, thinking of all those in New York and around the country celebrating Pride, and those hundreds willing to give blood to the victims. No matter how much you lose faith in humanity through the act of one hateful person, there is still hope.

    RIP to all those that died, and I hope all those injured recover.

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    1. Nickofoz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Agreed, a horrible incident 🙁

      Long time no speak Zasa, how's things mate? How'd your season finish up?

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      1. Zasa
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Things are great mate, summer of internships here! How about you?

        No idea 😆 I stopped playing around January-ish, I had no time for FF. How'd you fare?

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        1. Nickofoz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Awesome to hear! You're studying Finance, right?

          I'm good thanks, got exams coming up then an internship over the break 🙂

          Haha fair enough! I managed to finish 348th, was pretty happy to get into 3 figures after narrowly missing out last season.

          Playing Euro Fantasy for a bit of fun and then look forward to the PL season again 🙂 You planning on playing next season?

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          1. Zasa
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            Yeah, with a minor in econ 🙂

            Great to hear bud, best time of the year eh 😉 Is that your third year of uni now?

            Oh shiieet, that's amazing 😯 & to think most of FFS was in the 5 digit mark in January. Great stuff.

            Definitely mate, should be a great season with Pep & Mou at Man U. Hopefully we'll see some consistent top-tier football played by the traditional top 6 to make the matches worthwhile.

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            1. Nickofoz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              That's right. No, it's my second year of three 🙂 What area are you doing your internship in?

              Haha cheers! Was definitely a rollercoaster ride but as usual for FPL, enjoyed every minute of it!

              Indeed. Some great managers in the PL now and it'll certainly be a very interesting season!

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              1. Zasa
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 10 months ago

                Aha, do you have an internship lined up already? I'm interning at a tech start-up company, equity research for the most part.

                Nice 🙂 Gotta love the thrill of an underdog season.

                Yup, yup. Looking forward to Pep's Man City & who's ageing out of the squad, & what Klopp makes of a full-training this off-season!

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                1. Nickofoz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 10 months ago

                  Yep 🙂 So one in the winter break (which is in about a month after exams) and then three over the summer holidays (Dec/Jan/Feb for us Aussies 😀 ). Looking forward to them!

                  Ah awesome 🙂

                  Indeed, I'm also particularly looking forward to seeing how Leicester fare. Obviously it'll depend on who they keep out of their big three and some of their other important players but it'll be interesting to see how UCL commitments affect them 🙂

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                  1. Zasa
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 10 months ago

                    Well damn 😯 Great to hear, hope you save some time for FF at least!

                    Ah that too, I heard rumblings about Mahrez & Vardy going elsewhere. What a shame that'd be 🙁 Can't see how they'd fair well without those two against the big boys.

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                    1. Nickofoz
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 10 months ago

                      Haha there's always time for FF 😛

                      Yup. Huge Vardy to Arsenal talks but they seem to have settled now, I think it's up to Vardy whether he wants to go or not. As for Mahrez I haven't heard anything too concrete. But would be surprised if neither of them + Kante left

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                      1. Old Man
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        I hope that you're right - we don't want you lot poaching our players!! 🙂

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                      2. Old Man
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        see reply fail immediately below (and I think Kante will go unfortunately)

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                      3. Nickofoz
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        Contrary to popular belief I'm not actually an Arsenal fan 😀

                        I'm with you though, I hope Leicester keep as many of their players as possible so we get to see how they fare!

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                      4. Ruth_NZ
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        I think Vardy is realising that his career prospects are better at Leicester. In addition to which they have wealthy owners plus an additional £35m or more CL money to play with and can afford to give him a big pay deal. I think he'll stay.

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                      5. Nickofoz
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        I agree. Nice to see you around aswell, Ruth 🙂

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                      6. Old Man
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        Thanks Nick - who do you support? It would quite something if we could get out of the Champions League group - that's probably the bst we could ask for. As for the Premier League, I'd expect something like 6th to 9th, no better. We won't sign any "big" stars whatever happens ... I don't even think they'd want to come anyway. It will be a tough season.

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                      7. Old Man
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 14 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        Hope that you're right Ruth. I think it will be easier to keep Vardy, Mahrez and Kante than buy established "big" names. Fingers crossed!!!

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                      8. Ruth_NZ
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        Kante is the one I think they will lose. He's a class above the other two and will get a CL club where he'll be 1st choice.

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                      9. Nickofoz
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 10 months ago

                        I'm a Liverpool supporter 🙂

                        And yes, definitely somewhere around mid-table is expected. Assuming Ranieri prioritises CL, it'll be interesting to see how he manages his squad for PL as none of the squad will be used to playing 3 games in the space of a week

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  7. Gaalvinism
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Is it worth to sub Alli for R. Sanches? I expect Sanches won't be in the starting 11.

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  8. Nesvy
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Monday captain pick >>

    a/ Morata
    b/ Juanfran

    Last C change tomorow Alaba.

    Thanks.

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    1. Third Eye Vision
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Same 3 I've got. I've gone Morata just because I'm not sure how good the Czech's attack is. It's always more fun captaining a striker anyway.

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  9. Crab Bap
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    If I sub a player out and the bench player doesn't end up playing, do I still lose the points of the player subbed out?

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    1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      "If a manager substitution or captain change is made, then no automatic substitutions will take place in your team that matchday."

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      1. Crab Bap
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Could you then manually sub the player back in then?

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  10. cirohmelo
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    r you guys changing Srna since he is back to Croatia for his father's goodbye? not intending dark humor, just would appreciate an opinion, cause if i am changing him i am definitly wildcarding next week

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    1. fitzy
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Not got him but surely it is too early to say. Wait for news about him.

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    2. Third Eye Vision
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. That's one to look into on Wednesday morning. I've got him in my team and I thought he was the standout defender so far.

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  11. Art Vandelay
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I will wait for lineups but assuming they both start; Juanfran or Nolito for (c)?

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    1. Eze Really?
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      defenders have proven more reliable so far.
      see my post below

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  12. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Captain Silva or Nolito today ?

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    1. Eze Really?
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Silva for playtime safety?

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      1. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Think so . I only have Junyzovic after today

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  13. King H
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Guys who is more likley to start Denayer or Lindelof ? Please say both !!

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    1. fitzy
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Denayer imo

      Biased because I have put him in. Can always sub him out for Ronaldo if he doesn't get minutes 😀

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      1. King H
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Lindelof no chance of playing ?

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    2. Super-Anders
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      The latest news from the swedish training grounds is that Lindelöf is going to start.

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  14. Stuberry
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Repost as I bottomed out...

    Denayer or Ciman to start tonight?

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    1. Eze Really?
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I don't think anyone knows yet.

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  15. Eze Really?
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    after the first few gamedays it becomes more apparent defenders are the most reliable points getters. Sure, other positions offer bigger points tallies but I have 30 points from defenders and goalies with 2 still to play. my aim was always to play 3 4 3 and get 24 pts from defenders but my team will probably end up 5 3 2.
    I am going to have a major rethink on the wildcard upgrading defenders and downgrading mids.

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    1. fitzy
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I think it matters more that you have defenders from the better defensive teams than having the big hitter defenders like Ramos.

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      1. Eze Really?
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I agree. Only after fixture consideration will I look for big hitters.
        Also game days and times and being able to sub players throughout will take pride of place.

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    2. FPL Blow-In
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      • 13 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Definitely an option and could be the beat strategy

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      1. Eze Really?
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Yeah:
        Albania and N.Ireland opposition defenders will be on my wishlist so far.

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    3. Hank10
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      It is the "safe" option, but defenders' rewards are limited (unless you are lucky and they score goals), but players like Payet show that with the right attacking midfielders you can get really good scores....

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      1. Eze Really?
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        You cannot ignore the Payets of this world and they will remain in my side. But is a Silva, KDB type of player worth the money over strength at the back and opposition standards?

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        1. Hank10
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          It is certainly a risk... but with high risks you get high rewards... Silva, KDB could get you 2 points or 16 points...

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    4. Ruth_NZ
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Your post is self-contradictory. If your defenders are doing so well why do you need to spend more on them?

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      1. Eze Really?
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        I don't think so. I will concentrate on fixtures.
        I have Sommer, Lichsteiner, Pazdan and maybe Dragovic to go. Fixtures got me the points.

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        1. Ruth_NZ
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          So? Ukrainian defenders aren't expensive. Croatian defenders aren't expensive. Rami is 5.0. Why do you need to spend more?

          In any case, unless wildcarding before the next round you only have one transfer to make. 😕

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          1. Ruth_NZ
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            PS What makes you think Switzerland won't keep a CS against Romania? Only Albania scored fewer goals/game than Romania in qualifying. 😕

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          2. Eze Really?
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 10 months ago

            I did not mention the money and I am talking about Wildcarding and not having to risk 4.5 mil defenders

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            1. Ruth_NZ
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 10 months ago

              "...upgrading defenders and downgrading mids..."

              That's not about spending more?

              Let's say you play fixtures for the next round. OK, 2 x Ukraine v N. Ireland - Rakitskiy and Fedetskiy 5.0 each. France v Albania - Rami 5.0. Switzerland v Romania - Schär 5.5 or Djourou 5.0. Croatia v Czech - Strinic 4.0 or Vrsaljko 4.5. Sorted.

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              1. Eze Really?
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 10 months ago

                No its about what you have just posted. If I need to downgrade a mid to get what I need then this will be the way I will go.

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  16. anish10
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Captain Juanfran or alaba?

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    1. anish10
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      or r.patricio

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      1. Hank10
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Juanfran, good chance of a CS, R. Patricio is playing tomorrow so if Juanfran doesn't get you the CS you can captain him later....

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        1. anish10
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          yeah sorry thought they was all playing today!

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    2. SL8
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Surely u captain Juanfran today and Alaba tomorrow if it don't work out

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  17. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Randolph (c) ftw

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  18. fenixri
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Juanfran nailed?

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    1. Hank10
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      You can check the lineups before the deadline, Spain play first @ 3pm.

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  19. Mr Sarcastic
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone have / remember player prices for these?

    Payet 8.0?
    Konoplyanka 7.5?
    Yarmolenko?
    Mario Gomez?

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    1. cutch
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Yarmolenko 8.5 I think
      Payet 8.0
      Don't remember Kono and Mario

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    2. Ruth_NZ
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/06/12/dugout-discussion-turkey-vs-croatia-2/?hc_page=7#hc_comment_13439047

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    3. Eze Really?
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Gomez 8 Yarma 8.5

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    4. Mr Sarcastic
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Thanks all.

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  20. Gazpilicueta
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    hey guys, couple of sub questions

    1) Should I bring on Rafa Silva for Muller(2 points)?
    2) Should I bring on Denayer for Perisic (3 points)?
    3) If I do one sub (Juan fran for Vrsalijko done already) does this mean no automatic subs will happen?

    Thanks in advance

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    1. cutch
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      1 and 2) Yes, worth a try
      3) Exactly

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  21. Hendrix911
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Who should get the arm band? Juanfran
    Ramos
    Fabergas

    Have Alaba for the last day.

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    1. cutch
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ramos

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    2. Ruth_NZ
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ramos

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    3. Hank10
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Ramos. He can go big with a CS + a goal.

      fabregas could have limited playing time (Thiago/Koke could come in 2nd half)

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    4. Hendrix911
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Done, cheers!

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  22. Gazpilicueta
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    anyone know how likely Denayer and Rafa Silva are to play? or when the line ups will be out?

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    1. Chenku╰☆╮
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      See below.

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  23. Chenku╰☆╮
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Very little chance. Ciman should start...

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  24. Gazpilicueta
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Alright, Muller failed me as captain (and I didnt know I could have different captains on the other days!)

    So now I have chosen

    KDB over Denayer
    and tomorrow
    Alaba as a back up

    sound half decent?

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    1. Gaffa914
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I'm going hazard today then hopefully won't have to use pepe

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    2. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Thats sounds right! Alaba is my backup tomorrow too,

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  25. Pepe the Frog
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    KDB or Alba captain today?

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    1. Madderegern
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Alba probably safest choice..

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  26. Madderegern
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Alba
    Cesc
    or Nolito for C today?

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  27. Miami Monkey
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    I don't have any Day 5 players to captain, so who is the safer pick of KDB and Nolito?

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    1. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Seems like everybodys thinking the same. I am leaning towards Nolito because he has an easier game. But I will surely look at the lineups before I decide.

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      1. Miami Monkey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Problem is I would have to wake up at 5 am which isn't gonna happen

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        1. La Vida Latte
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          Then I would go with KDB for safety, 🙂

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    2. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      But KDB is safer if you don´t check the lineups. Nolito isn´t as nailed on as KDB

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  28. La Vida Latte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Who would you captain (if they play, the spanish I will check the lineups for) today?

    A) Nolito
    B) Alba
    C) KDB

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  29. Bring on the shots
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Can you change the formation when making subs? Each time I try to make a sub it fails an says it hasn't updated...

    Please help! 🙂

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  30. JoshHuntCUFC
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 10 months ago

    Is it worth subbing Rui Pat on for Kovacik (3pts)?

    Is it worth subbing on Alaba for Alli (2pts)?

    Is it worth subbing Ciman on for Rami (2pts)?

    I'm swaying towards: Yes Yes No

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    1. Miami Monkey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      what kind of dumb questions are these

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      1. JoshHuntCUFC
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        That's a tad rude, no?

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        1. Miami Monkey
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          All the players blanked, why would you not sub...

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    2. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      I would say yes, yes and yes. But wait with #2 until tomorrw. Do Rami -> Ciman today. If Ciman gets 0 or 1 do Ciman -> Alaba tomorrow.

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      1. Pete Campbell
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        What he said

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      2. JoshHuntCUFC
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks!

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    3. Pete Campbell
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      Do Ciman for Rami first and then if Ciman doesnt play sub him for Alaba the next day

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      1. La Vida Latte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Great minds,.. and so on 🙂

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        1. Pete Campbell
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 10 months ago

          🙂

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      2. JoshHuntCUFC
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 10 months ago

        Thanks!

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    4. Hank10
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 10 months ago

      yes to all, losing just 2-3 points is worth the risk

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