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13 June 2016 1868 comments
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Monday’s final Euro 2016 tie sees Fifa’s second highest ranked side Belgium square up to 2012 Euros finalist Italy.

Both sides come into the match in confident mood having topped their qualifying groups and ending their pre-tournament friendly preparations unbeaten. While Belgium defeated Norway 3-2 and drew 1-1 with Finland, Italy recorded wins against Scotland and Finland.

Marc Wilmots’ team are set to rely heavily on Manchester City midfielder Kevin De Bruyne, who created more chances than any other player during qualification. Along with Chelsea’s Eden Hazard he was also the Red Devils’ top scorer in qualifying with five goals.

Antonio Conte’s Italy were one of only four sides, alongside England, Austria and Romania, to be undefeated in qualifying. They did this despite not having a regular goal scorer, with Southampton striker Graziano Pelle the Azzuri’s top scorer in qualifying with just three goals.

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  1. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 4 months ago

    There's a good chance that by the time we play Italy they could be coasting on 6pts and possibly have one eye on the round of 16 or even resting players.

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    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Fingers crossed eh?

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      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Of course man.

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  2. Back on the horse
    10 years, 4 months ago

    If you sub in a player and they don;t play does the auto-sub put them back in at the end of the MD?

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    1. Epic Fail
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No.

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    2. Nomar
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Fellow Denayer owner then?

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      1. Back on the horse
        10 years, 4 months ago

        nah, jst a few 2 pointers who I would like to throw the dice on again, but not sure the subs will play

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  3. Ham S
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Captaincy tomorrow on?
    A) Alaba
    B) Siggy

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    1. Freshy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Alaba

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    2. Nomar
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Alaba is the only one I have left.

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  4. RyanC
    10 years, 4 months ago

    If you'd told me a few days ago that I'd be pinning my captaincy hopes on Rui Patrício, I'm not sure I'd have believed you.

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    1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He's certainly no Zat Knight.

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      1. RyanC
        10 years, 4 months ago

        You're right about that.

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    2. Hurricane Gilbert
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Same here...

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  5. Meimei
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Italia < 3 Conte < 3 Buffon < 3 Corluka < 3 Belgium < 3

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    1. Golden Goal
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Huh?!

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      1. Meimei
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Never mind

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        1. Golden Goal
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Lol is that u in the photo?

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          1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Smoooooooth

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            1. RoyaleBlue
              10 years, 4 months ago

              :') savaged

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          2. Meimei
            10 years, 4 months ago

            You want the truth ?

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            1. Golden Goal
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Yes please

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              1. Irish Madridista ⭐
                10 years, 4 months ago

                YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

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              2. Meimei
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Sì

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                1. Golden Goal
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  It really u?

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                  1. Meimei
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    You wanted the truth and the you ask me for proof ?? I guess you are used to liars saying what they want...

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No love for Benucci, eh, Monica?

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      1. Meimei
        10 years, 4 months ago

        No caro

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        1. Golden Goal
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Who do u support?

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          1. Meimei
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Try to guess

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            1. Golden Goal
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Burton Albion

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              1. Meimei
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Anna Maria

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              2. Meimei
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Sleep well

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  6. Golden Goal
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Name the player that has most screwed u over in GW1...

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    1. samaael
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Peresic/ Hakan

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    2. RyanC
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Pretty much all my attackers bar Giroud...

      Although my defence has more than made up for it.

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    3. Hurricane Gilbert
      10 years, 4 months ago

      THE player? Come on... Müller, Götze, Morata, Perisic, Hamsik, Forsberg, Walker, Rami, Kozackl....

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      1. Freshy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Im bringing in Perisic

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    4. SweepaKeepa
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Berezutzki. Had triple up on England defence.

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    5. Irish Madridista ⭐
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Ciaran Clark.

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    6. Nomar
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Mueller, Hamsik, Morata.

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  7. samaael
    10 years, 4 months ago

    feel inclined to keep captaincy on Zlatan. I have Januzovic to go. Would you switch or keep Zlatan's 10 points?

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    1. Epic Fail
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Don't be a wuss.

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      1. samaael
        10 years, 4 months ago

        keeping then

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    2. RyanC
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Hmm. At the start of the week I'd have said gamble and switch for sure. Judging by the performances of most attackers so far, 10 points from a captain is looking an alright score after all.

      Maybe stick on a Portugal defender if you're serious about changing? I have Januz but I'm captaining Rui Patricio...

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      1. samaael
        10 years, 4 months ago

        no POR defender. Just Janu to go. Thanks for the reply

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        1. RyanC
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Stick. And that's coming from a serial FPL point-spending kneejerker. 🙂

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          1. samaael
            10 years, 4 months ago

            yeah makes sense

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    3. RMA
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Stick. Junuzovic is good and all, but to expect more than 5p from him is a bit too optimistic.

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  8. Feeling_blue
    10 years, 4 months ago

    When will I be able to make substitutions?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      10 years, 4 months ago

      Midnightish.

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  9. Hurricane Gilbert
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Worth taking a -4 hit if your team is full of under-achievers? Want to WC prior to GW3...

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    1. KingNidge
      10 years, 4 months ago

      They may not under achieve next game

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    2. RMA
      10 years, 4 months ago

      One change will hardly ever gain you back 4p over the course of one game. So no.

      This fantasy league is way too short sighted to even consider hits.

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    3. Epic Fail
      10 years, 4 months ago

      And what happens when your new team fail, change them all again?

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    4. RyanC
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Hits are often wise in FPL, but I don't see much value of them in such a short-term setup as Euro Fantasy.

      So much trickier to make back.

      -4 across the tournament would be my absolute max, but I wouldn't even be comfortable with that.

      And that's coming from someone who regularly spends 4 to 8 points weekly in FPL, to my advantage.

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      1. Ruth_NZ
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Well... You are right, no hits is best. However, I set my team up with a wildcard before MD3 in mind but I can see the value in keeping it back till the QFs. If I find I can hold off wildcarding before MD3 by taking one hit, perhaps even 2, I might do that.

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  10. Gazpilicueta
    10 years, 4 months ago

    how long does the game normally take to update? i wanna sort my captain out

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  11. BUZZBOMB ♡
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Janko still has a doubtful flag against him. Will he play do you think - worth swapping in for Ozil or Matuidi 2pts? Double up with Alaba?

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    1. Slam
      10 years, 4 months ago

      You will have the lineups

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  12. shirtless
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Only got Long in for Sweden really but plan to keep him for Belgium now.

    Hamsik>Payet or sell Rami I think will be my move.

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    1. Slam
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Why sell Rami?

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      1. shirtless
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 4 months ago

        France look shakey to me!

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        1. Slam
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Do they really? I have a double up, maybe it is time to wildcard...
          Wait no, it's Albania isn't it? 😆

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          1. shirtless
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 4 months ago

            True enough!

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  13. Slam
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I'm still happy with my midfield, still think they have the potential to do well match day 2.
    Hamsik - Perisic - Stanciu - Payet - Junu(Don't know yet)

    My strikers are the real worry
    Zlatan - Muller - Nolito

    and then I decided to get Casillas! 😡
    Kozacik - Casillas

    With 1 FT, what would you attend to first? Or is Wildcarding the way...

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    1. dmcqt
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Your strikers all have potential on MD2. I wouldn't be concerned about them. I fancy Croatia in their next game too. I'd be more concerned about your defenders, since that's where all the points are coming from. I'd make sure Spain and France are well represented in your defence for the next round and then save the WC for GW3, when we'll see significant rotation from the stronger teams who have already qualified.

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  14. Cheeseoid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 4 months ago

    What score do you think or 1 will be?

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    1. Slam
      10 years, 4 months ago

      81 Cheese - you got it

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      1. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Lol. I think I have a n actual shout

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        1. Irish Madridista ⭐
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Go team! 😀

          Great score Captain Cheeseoid 🙂

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    2. GuyIncognito
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Depends how Ronaldo does. If he explodes we'll be looking at 100+ easily.

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      1. Slam
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Wow, I've got some catching up to do

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      2. Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 4 months ago

        So true. A Ronaldo captain could snatch it.

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  15. Every Dog Has Its Day
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Would you take of Sommer and bring on Patricio and captain him? Morata was useless.

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Do you think Patricio will score 4 or more?

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    2. Meimei
      10 years, 4 months ago

      If you fancy Patricio to do 4 or more do it.

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    3. Every Dog Has Its Day
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yup, cheers all.

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  16. Total Foot 5
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Belgium: how would you start the the team w/ their somewhat golden generation?

    ciman / Toby / Vermaelen / Vertonghen
    Witsel / Dembele
    KDB / Hazard / Mertens
    Lukaka

    ** would even risk going w/ the Duo Lukaka & Benteke upfront and bench Mertens
    (pity Kompany injured, makes huge diff + Chadli disappeared due to bench w/ spurs)

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    1. Meimei
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Courtois
      Ciman Alderweireld Vermaelen Vertonghen
      Nainggolan Witsel
      Mertens de Bruyne Hazard
      Lukaku

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      1. Total Foot 5
        10 years, 4 months ago

        naingolan does he play as an AM for Roma or CM?

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        1. Meimei
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I couldn't tell you but he is important for us

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          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            10 years, 4 months ago

            From what I've seen he looks brutal.

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        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          10 years, 4 months ago

          https://www.whoscored.com/Players/52380

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          1. Total Foot 5
            10 years, 4 months ago

            just checked last game against Milan, he played as
            AM attcking midfielded #10

            ahead of de rossi

            pjanic - de rossi - strootman
            naingolan
            sharah - sharawy

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    2. dmcqt
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I think it's less about selection and more about strategy. I liked Gianluca Vialli's comments on television before. Italy played as a disciplined unit. Belgium played narrow with attackers cutting in to the best drilled tight back three in the competition. It seemed daft as a tactic! They needed to use width and then take advantage of their aerial strength with Lukaku and Benteke as options to receive crosses. I'd be tempted to go 4-4-2 with Hazard in the center, KdB out wide, and Dembele dropping back a bit. Team harmony doesn't seem great either, whereas Italy seem to be a well-oiled machine right now. The celebrations after the second Italy goal were great! Buffon does a lot for team spirit, I think.

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      1. JÆKS ⭐
        10 years, 4 months ago

        KDB out wide and Hazard has never worked before and it will never work in the future. No idea why someone would play 2 quality players out of position if you can just play both of them in their best position

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        1. Meimei
          10 years, 4 months ago

          +1 KDB as to play 10 and he will

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      2. Total Foot 5
        10 years, 4 months ago

        dm well put mate

        ure thinking aong the same lines as me
        dembele is a huge talent. cannot be in bench. he can play DM,AM, CM.

        i'd do:

        Witsel / Dembele
        KDB / Hazard
        Lukaka / Benteke

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        1. Meimei
          10 years, 4 months ago

          You did not watch a lot of Belgium matches ahaha

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    3. GreennRed
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Doesn't matter if you've got class players when they don't play as a team and fight for each other.Is there a split in the camp between the Flemish and Walloons or unhappiness that Hazard is captain? Would never strike me as being captain material.

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      1. Total Foot 5
        10 years, 4 months ago

        green wow did not have in my mind. u reckon there is such a thing btn the walloons and flemish? why...

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      2. JÆKS ⭐
        10 years, 4 months ago

        No there isn't, most of the players also speak both languages so no problem at all there. Hazard indeed is not captain material as I agree. I'd go for Vertonghen personally. Leader figure on the pitch, not sure how he is off the pitch. Kompany really is a huge loss for us in terms of leadership.

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    4. JÆKS ⭐
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Courtois
      Meunier Alderweireld Vermaelen Vertonghen
      Dembele Naingolan
      Carrasco KDB Hazard
      Batshuayi

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      1. Meimei
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yes Carrasco but is he fit ? Meunier I would love it too. Batshuayi I'd like to see because Lukaku and Benteke are so bad when playing for Belgium

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        1. JÆKS ⭐
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Played the last 15 minutes or something 😀 Meunier close to being fully fit. Indeed agree on Lukaku and Benteke. Although I have to say that Lukaku is the most quality striker, but the system is just not working for him. With Hazard, DeBruyne (less then Hazard and Lukaku since Aguero is there as well) and Lukaku all being the focal point of attack in their teams, it's hard for them to adjust to the fact that they can't all be the main guy for Belgium. KDB in the hole and let him run the game is what I would do.

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      2. Meimei
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Still I prefer Nainggolan to Dembele

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        1. JÆKS ⭐
          10 years, 4 months ago

          That's why I have both! 😀

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  17. ktk_interista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Alaba has approximately a goal every 4 matches for Austria. Surely has to be the best captain if your captain blanked and you don't have Ronaldo right? I am not too confident in Dragovic. He doesn't scores goals at all.

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    1. RyanC
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Try thinking of it this way: do you think an Alaba goal is more likely than a Dragovic clean sheet? If so, captain Alaba. If not, captain Dragovic.

      I've got Junuzovic and Rui and I'm captaining Rui for the same reasons.

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    2. GreennRed
      10 years, 4 months ago

      He's your only option. A lot of his goals are penalties by the way but he's quality in attack or defence.

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  18. mikess
    10 years, 4 months ago

    It's worth risking 2 points for the 50% chance that Raphaël Guerreiro starts right?

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    1. RyanC
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I will be taking that risk.

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      1. mikess
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers

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  19. Miami Monkey
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Captain fail KDB and the only player I have left is Patricio. I already have a Sommer CS on the field, would it be ridiculous to put in Rui and captain him?

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    1. Irish Madridista ⭐
      10 years, 4 months ago

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/13443828

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    2. Hurricane Gilbert
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No, not at all. This game is clearly about taking risks and try to get the most out of your team. It's a sprint, not a marathon as well.

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    3. RyanC
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I'd being Rui in and captain him.

      - A fellow Rui captainer.

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      1. RyanC
        10 years, 4 months ago

        *bring

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  20. Legomane
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Lloris(2), Matuidi(2), Muller(2) >> Rui Patricio, Dragovic, Alaba seems like a no brainer - yes? Just need one CS or a goal/assist to break even. Assuming all will start?

    Not so sure on twisting from C Juanfran 6x2, might be a bit bold at this stage having gone from Giroud(5) to Shakiri (6) to Muller (2) to JF...Would have to be Dragovic or Alaba...

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    1. RyanC
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yes to the changes.

      Stick with Juanfran. 12 is a good captain score at this stage. Anything less and I'd change.

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  21. Drew a Blank
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Does anyone know how to add your name to your team on the McDonald's Euro 2016 game? My team is there but I have no name above it??

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    1. Optimus.
      10 years, 4 months ago

      It seems like you drew a blank

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      1. Drew a Blank
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yes, I'm top of my mini league and nobody knows who I am!

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    2. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Go to your profile which you'll find at top right and enter your name in screen name section.

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      1. Drew a Blank
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks!

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      2. Fergietime
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Trying to, but keep getting error.

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  22. mikess
    10 years, 4 months ago

    I knew I was right that D. Silva would outscore KDB this week ha

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  23. The Wise Owl
    10 years, 4 months ago

    66 points any good?

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    1. RyanC
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Good is relative.

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  24. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
    10 years, 4 months ago

    any good 4.5s defenders revealed themselves to replace denayer?

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    1. GreennRed
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Sapunaru

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      1. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
        10 years, 4 months ago

        thx will check him out

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    2. JÆKS ⭐
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Strinic for 4.0 maybe

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      1. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
        10 years, 4 months ago

        ty have him already though 🙂

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  25. GreennRed
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Darijo likely to be back for Czech game.

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/euro-2016/2016/0613/795327-croatia_euro-2016/

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  26. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Have they even begun 'calculating points' yet?

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    1. ONSIDE 9
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Nope, hopefully the process may have changed

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  27. Do I Not Like Orange
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Need help on transfers for next round. Any standout players we need to get next GD? Or any other suggested moves from this lot? (Thinking atm I may swap Koz for a GK who plays on another day if nowt else pressing).

    Sommer/Kozacik
    Rod/Dier/Giac/Guerreiro/Dragovic
    Perisic/Payet/Alaba/Alli/Stanciu
    Muller/Giroud/CR7

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    1. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 4 months ago

      You look nicely set up to me. Dragovic or Guerreiro if he doesn't place would be who I'd be considering selling.

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      1. Blue&White85
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 4 months ago

        *play

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    2. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
      10 years, 4 months ago

      problem is koza is only playing 4,5 gk so u cant change...

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  28. Mayo for Sam
    10 years, 4 months ago

    "the game will try to substitute the inactive player for one of your replacements. This is done by replacing them with your highest priority substitute who who did play and doesn't break the formation rules"

    So if I sub in a player and he doesn't play will I get the points back for the player I subbed out initially? Or does it only Auto Sub in players who haven't played yet?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      10 years, 4 months ago

      It's manual vs auto.

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 4 months ago

      It only auto-subs if you don't make any manual substitutions yourself.

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    3. GREEN IS GOOD
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No, once you sub a player out he cannot return, even as an auto-sub.

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  29. fitzy
    10 years, 4 months ago

    65 + Patricio + Ronaldo.

    Come on portugal

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  30. NUFCAndrew
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Alaba or Rui Patricio for captain tomorrow. I know Alaba plays outfield but I could really do with the points and I think Portugal will keep a clean sheet against Iceland, but Alaba could do serious damage against Hungary, thoughts?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      10 years, 4 months ago

      It's possible. Not much you can do except enjoy the games.

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    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      10 years, 4 months ago

      Would captain Alaba.

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