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With the Brazilian duo of Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho, along with Adam Lallana, the Liverpool midfield was already full of attacking intent last season.

With Sadio Mane recruited from Southampton and Georginio Wijnaldum drafted in from Newcastle, Fantasy managers face an even tougher choice when selecting from Liverpool’s crowded list of midfielders.

With this in mind, we asked our team of contributors the “Burning Question” – “Which of Jurgen Klopp’s midfield assets warrant investment?”

“Dufflinks” aka Simon March (2014/15 FPL Champion) says…

Maybe it’s because I’ve been burned several seasons running by Liverpool midfielders (my Coutinho and Firmino double Gameweek double up last season was a notable disaster), but none of Liverpool’s players fill me with confidence this season.

Their opening fixtures don’t help their cause but, inevitably, somebody will emerge with form to tempt the good ship that is my Fantasy team towards the jagged rocks of red-arrow oblivion.

Or maybe this year it’ll be different. Firmino might play up front and Coutinho looks good value at 8.0. Then there’s Sadio ‘not another hat-trick?’ Mane to think about.

The problem is, whichever I chose, I’m pretty certain I’ll be choosing be the wrong one. That’s really the challenge; there’s too little to pick between them at the moment and, meanwhile, there’s plenty of comparable and, arguably, safer options to look at elsewhere.

So the short answer is that, for all the undeniable quality and potential in Liverpool’s midfield, a player would have to emerge as a really compelling and consistent option before I can bring myself to look in that direction again.

Mark says…

It’s fortunate that Liverpool’s fixtures are so unappealing early on – that should give us the opportunity to assess matters further before being lured to invest in Klopp’s midfield.

My love/hate relationship with Mane is well known on these pages and inevitably my heart is screaming to side with the Senegalese.

Meanwhile, my head will urge me to play safe and stick with Firmino. He’s the option most likely to be backed by Klopp and a player who could find himself spearheading the Liverpool attack as a false nine – that’s certainly been the case in pre-season.

With 0.5 in change, it seems obvious to opt for the Brazilian, although Mane’s tendency to explode goals remains a nagging concern.

Elsewhere, both Wijnaldum and Countinho cloud the issue further.

Much as I’d like Coutinho’s class to translate to emphatic Fantasy returns, I fear he’ll be reduced to providing the probing passes that go unrewarded, relying on numerous improbable strikes from range to keep his tally ticking.

Firmino ahead of the Gameweek 6 clash with Hull, looks the likely route. I only hope that a slow start will keep his price grounded and that Mane’s output to that point doesn’t turn my head further.

Jonty says…

In my view there are just three main protagonists in the Liverpool midfield, each offering something different depending on your style of Fantasy management.

For the “dullards” amongst us there is Firmino: a known favourite of Klopp who looks the most nailed on of the midfield.

He also has a strong debut season under his belt, accruing 155 points even though it took him around two months to cement himself in the side.

His ten goals, eight assists and 18 FPL bonus points last term also show his game offers broad points potential. It will come as no surprise to reveal that this ‘Steady Eddy’ of Klopp’s unit is this dullard’s top Liverpool midfield target.

For the Maverick there is a Mane. He’s incredibly frustrating and inconsistent, but his explosive potential is tailor made for the risk taking Fantasy manager.

Take last season for example. After failing to score in the Premier League for four months he went on a sensational and unexpected scoring run that included a brace against Liverpool and a hat-trick against Manchester City.

Finally, for the stats obsessives, Coutinho offers a third route.

Last season no other midfielder had more goal attempts than his tally of 111. But with just eight goals from this effort he is a goal explosion that may never arrive.

Paul says…

Roberto Firmino.

I reckon Wijnaldum’s potential will be somewhat diminished by his ability to play in a deeper central midfield role, whilst Coutinho’s underlying numbers will always flatter to deceive – essentially, this is a player who has scored 4.9% and 7.2% of his chances in the last two seasons and lacks a cutting edge.

This leaves Firmino and Sadio Mane as my favoured Liverpool midfield options. Whilst both are versatile enough to play as a “false nine” or in the attacking midfield positions, I simply feel that Firmino is a class above the summer signing from Southampton.

The Brazilian’s output with Klopp in charge underlines his capabilities.

Firmino averaged 5.8 points per match under the German’s guidance last season and, despite Liverpool’s tricky opening schedule, it’s worth bearing in mind that the former Hoffenheim man picked up returns against the likes of Chelsea, Leicester, Man City and Arsenal amongst others in 2015/16.

A player of that calibre, with such fixture-proof potential and priced relatively kindly at 8.5, looks irresistible.

Spencer says…

Some of Klopp’s games last season where a joy to watch, with aggression, directness, and attacking intent all key to Liverpool’s play. With a raft of new acquisitions the German has firmly cemented his ethos in the side and there are high hopes for this season.

Amongst their midfielders, Firmino certainly looks the best option.

He was Liverpool’s top goal scorer last season and has shown the magic that he can produce on the pitch. Added to that, some impressive outings as a false nine position further cement his appeal.

Coutinho has often produced impressive underlying statistics, but his end product has been lacking. The key question is whether Klopp get some consistency from the young Brazilian and whether that will translate to Fantasy points returns.

Meanwhile, Lallana has also shone under Klopp. One could argue that the former Southampton midfielder has played his best football at Liverpool during his tenure. But his starting role has never looked assured since arriving at Anfield.

Then we have the new signings – Mane and Wijnaldum. Both have similar statistics (11 goals and six and five assists respectively) and could yet emerge as strong options under Klopp.

Lack of European competition should ease rotation fears, but it could also breed discontent as those left on the bench become increasingly unsatisfied with their lack of game time.

Fixtures are also tough early on but I don’t think this will hinder Liverpool. They played exceptionally well against many so called bigger sides last season.

As soon as it becomes clear which midfielder is most assured of starts and demonstrates consistency, they are heading straight for my squad.

Applebonkers says…

This is a very interesting one, as are Liverpool as a whole with Klopp’s feet now fully under the table and no European distractions.

Firmino was a quiet colossus once he broke into the side properly and there’s no reason why at 24 he can’t push on even more.

Hamstring injuries and the Europa League kept Coutinho away from blue-star status but there were actually signs of a consistent FPL points scorer developing.

Mane is too mercurial to predict, he may also be more prone to bench-time with Lallana lurking.

Then there’s the dishwater duo of Milner and Henderson. They will play too deep with Milner expected to fill in at left-back and, thanks to Emre Can and Wijnaldum, there’s just too much competition for places.

I’ve got a good feeling about Liverpool this season, I think they’ll overwhelm a lot of sides and rack-up some big wins. Like hairy conjoined twins prepping for the beach, two Brazilians could be the answer here.

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  1. Dušan Citizen
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    For those who think Amat will start, don't forget Swansea signed Van der Hoorn.

    1. BananaNose Maldonado
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Better chance of Kingsley, Dusan?

      1. Jay_
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I just read that Kingsley has looked poor and if anything Naughton will play LB with Rangel RB for gw1 if Naylor is still not match fit.

        1. BananaNose Maldonado
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Gotcha. So we are back to what, Lenihan, as the best bet for a playing 4.0 defender?

          1. Dušan Citizen
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Lenihan wasn't even on the bench in recent friendlies. Seems like Tarkowski has the most chances. Alongside Amat.

  2. Bobmarley121
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Choose 1 for the season

    Kane, vardy or ibrahimovic

    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      for the season overall, probably Kane. he will be in my team sooner or later, and for keeps.

    2. The Donald
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Kane

    3. rjcv177
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      No one is for the season. Choose form and fixtures, and pray for injury free

  3. rjcv177
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    I Was wondering if FPL can lock the % of player owned. This Would benefit the early choices and analysis on some players.
    Let's Just say ibra is on 25% of teams. Would be reasonable to lock transfers and not allowing is ownership above 50%??

    Would this be a way forward to erase "templates" and crente diversity?

    1. oghash
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Nonsense.

    2. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      The price mechanism helps to differentiate teams.

      Those playing the early value game can achieve a combination fit of players which others simple can't put together.

      1. rjcv177
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Ok. But u are taking of cents that can be easily made on a gk or even Def.

  4. The Donald
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Naughton... will he play

    1. The Donald
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      does nobody know what is going on at Swansea?

      1. Drop Dead Tsimikas
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Swansea doesn't know what's going on at Swansea.

        1. The Donald
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          typical

    2. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Dreadful idea. I don't see why not. He's better than anyone in his position at the club.

      1. Rasping Drive
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Oops. Scratch the "dreadful idea" that was meant for RJCV's suggestion to cap transfer percentages for players.

  5. Drop Dead Tsimikas
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Assume all are starters. Would you do:

    1. Morgan + Gaston + Vardy
    or
    2. Souare (or another 4.5 - who?) + Mahrez + Gray

    ?

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      A but not gaston imo

      1. Drop Dead Tsimikas
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Who would your 5.5 MF be? I'm also considering Feghouli and Fischer.

        1. Hy liverpool
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Yep . Those or gradel/ibe

  6. Hy liverpool
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Cedric(sou) or morgan(lei) to rotate with Kone (sun)

    1. The Donald
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      don't think Cedric is nailed, so Morgan

      1. the cromulent one
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        This.

        1. Hy liverpool
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers both

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Cedric for me.

      1. Hy liverpool
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Are you sure he's nailed or not ? Haven't seen any game of Southampton pre-season?

        1. Hy liverpool
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          + portugal ? So he may not play GW1

        2. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Comes with a risk but I think he'll start.

  7. oghash
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    @Just A Hat - Are you still here?

    1. Just A Hat
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Hello

      1. oghash
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        You entered my predictions comp twice, naughty, which ones do you want to keep?

        1. Just A Hat
          • 17 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          lol really? I don't recall entering the first time - I'll keep the latest one 😀

          1. oghash
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            ok 🙂

  8. Mavric Marco
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    A) Sanchez, Redmond & Pieters
    or...
    B) Mahrez, Fischer & Long

    1. The Donald
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I like A

      different formations between the 2?

      1. Mavric Marco
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I like A as well, classic Head vs Heart

        A is a 4-4-2 B is a 3-4-3

  9. ★Kuntheman★
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    So stoked to watch Gabriel Jesus play today.

    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Judging by the last game, don't be....
      But I guess that was the low point.

  10. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts on this team folks?

    Forster Jaku
    Shaw terry Evans friend kone
    Hazard Mahrez tadic bojan fletcher
    Kun Costa Carroll

  11. Ange Ball
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Please rate my old draft I'm thinking going back to it.

    Mandan/Hens

    Shaw Terry Sagna

    Hazard Lamela Redmond Ramirez

    Aguero Costa Ibra

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      well costa is an issue. There are better rotating keepers @4.5.

      1. Ange Ball
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Showed it to my mate who finished in top 20 last season he said was good.

        1. Birds of Prey
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          good is not great, do you know what is he running?

          1. Ange Ball
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Yeah his got Kane and Vardy up front he told me to bring Vardy in tho and Cap him gw1 as everyone else will do Aguero

            1. Birds of Prey
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              pretty early to start playing differentials particularly against Kun.

    2. Recoba
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I like it. If the other def aren't 4.0s...

  12. Eden Hazardous
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Walcott

    What has changed since last year? He is the same guy who was in every other RMT last season. The only difference is that he is 1.5m cheaper and Giroud is guaranteed not to play GW 1

    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Everyone thinks he's brutal.

    2. The Donald
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      he's not worth it

    3. Ayew Serious
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Because last season we thought he was first choice striker.

      1. Ronnies
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Hey bro...

        What u think of this team ?

        heaton - (foster)

        azpil - valencia - friend - (mcauley, smith)

        hazard - tadic - lamela - townsend - (capoue)

        kun - ibra - gray

        Tnks

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Sorry, only seen this now. Looks pretty sweet bro! Nothing wrong

    4. oghash
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Yet Arsene still chose to bench him today

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        And yet he scored the winner 😉

        1. Birds of Prey
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Not a bad comeback, but he's not nailed. Didn't see the match who did start up top, Giroud inj right?

        2. oghash
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Don't do it, avoid him, you're not some noob

          1. Eden Hazardous
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            I am doing it. The Ultimate Troll

    5. kitier katba
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Didn't he just pick up a goal and assist against MCity?

    6. the cromulent one
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      You would have to figure that he would have moved on if he had no chance of seeing 1st team action. But the same could be said of Oxlade-Chamberlain.
      For me, it's a definite wait-and-see. One bitten twice shy.

  13. The Donald
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Tadic + Redmond too much? not really any other 7.5 mids better than Dusan though...

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      who are other mids?

    2. Just A Hat
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I don't think Tadic is really all that special, prefer Barkley

  14. Mark-O
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    RMT for the first time this week?

    Foster (Jaku)
    Valencia Holding Morgan (Friend Kingsley)
    Alli Fabregas Radical Fischer (Fletcher)
    Kun Ibra Vardy

    1. Mark-O
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Radical is Tadic. Oops

    2. The Donald
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      don't like the midfield

      1. Mark-O
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Why? Alli more explosive than Eriksen imo. It's a decision between Fabregas and Oscar. Can't afford Hazard

      2. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I don't care for the defense. Zany as it is, I might rotate Kightly w/Fletcher and upgrade your 4.0s and rotate 3 4.5s, 3 of whom won't be Holding. IMO GL

    3. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Poor defence/GK/Midfield but good attack though
      UNBALANCED

      1. Mark-O
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Foster rotates well with Jaku
        Morgan to rotate with Friend

        Unbalanced?

        1. Hy liverpool
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Teams will score vs hull gor fun (wouldn't play jaku tbh) , not sure why would you have Holding too ... Fabre may be not nailed +wouldn't start fischer (from a rel.side) every week .
          Try to downgrade ibra/vardy and upgrade your Mid/defence at least

          1. Mark-O
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Doesn't Fabregas play either in CDM or CAM which makes him versatile although his appeal might drop in CDM?

            Gabriel injured so that leaves Holding pretty nailed on with Koscielny imo?

            1. Birds of Prey
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              But ARS, they are a mess and don't have great fixtures.

        2. Birds of Prey
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Rubbish you'll never play Jaku--or get ready for 1pt.ers.

    4. Harvey Specter
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      What about Willian instead of Fab and Oscar?

      1. Mark-O
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Willian didn't impress much though. I could change Fabregas back to Deulofeu/Siggy though

  15. BigBrickDigger
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts? And who to bench gw1?

    Foster-Jaku
    Walker-Baines-Valencia-Friend-Soare
    Hazard-Eriksen-Tadic-Deulofeu-Hojbjerg
    Kun-Costa-Gray

    1. The Donald
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      pretty solid

    2. Harvey Specter
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Hojbjerg was mostly used as a deep midfielder in Bayern, don't think he's FPL-material

    3. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Really decent, downgrade a 5.5 and Jaku> Heaton.

    4. Judas
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I like it. Costa ---> Vardy.

    5. pm17
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      looks really good...only question is whether deulofeu will start every game for everton and whether barkley is a better option...

      sold team overall

  16. cdfcdevils
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Peoples thoughts would be greatly appreciated!!!!

    Foster (Heaton)

    Van Dijk, Baines, Morgan (van Aanholt, Smith)

    Mahrez, Ramsey, Willian, Tadic (Feghouli)

    Aguero, Rooney, Wickham

    1. Mark-O
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Playing PVA is a huge risk but could pay off. Everything looks good. Not keen on Wickham for sure.

      1. cdfcdevils
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        What options do you think could be better at the same price as PVA?

        Yeah im not certain on Wickham but I do think he is nailed on for the first couple of weeks until they sign a striker and the fixtures look good at that point.

        I was actually thinking about Carroll for the extra price.

        1. Birds of Prey
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Williams first 2.

    2. Ange Ball
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Nice one on Wickham

    3. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      downgrade PvA and get a 4.5 for Smith. GL

    4. Judas
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      dtich VVD. Saints have bad fixtures to start off.

      Baines is overpriced, not guaranteed on pens and average fixtures.
      PVA again poor fixtures and new manager so many be shaky

      MID is punty but I quite like it. Hazard maybe essential

      Martial + Vardy instead of Mahrez and Rooney

      1. cdfcdevils
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Good shout about Baines!! I want some Man U in my defence which 5.5 defender would you recommend

        Is Martial locked on!!

        1. nihant
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Baines has favorable fixtures + proven pedigree + Koeman solid defensive tactics. GREAT pick.

    5. Just A Hat
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Ramsey! I've got him too 🙂

  17. Harvey Specter
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Long, Carroll or Gray?

    1. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Long

    2. Judas
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      gray obviously. 9 goals in 6 preseason

    3. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Gray

    4. Harvey Specter
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I'm leaning toward Gray, just weighing my options

  18. El Cube
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Thoughts? Are Wickham & Lamela nailed starters ?

    Heaton
    Shaw-Souaré-Morgan
    Redmond-Lamela-Hazard-Mahrez
    Ibrahimovic(VC)-Agüero(C)-Wickham

    Bench : Foster,Fletcher,Friend,Lenihan

    1. Hazard for Ballon D'or
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I've got both, nice team, not keen on souare as personally dont think he nailed, I'd get kone

      1. El Cube
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        bad first 4 fixtures though.

    2. Emp
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      nice would do heaton to jaku tho and upgrade wick to a 6.5

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        disagree look at Heaton's last season in the PL(150 pts). since you have concerns Lamela> 6.5 and Wick>6.5

        1. El Cube
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          I can do Lamela to Bolasie, Wickham to Grey. But Burnley fixtures not that easy

          1. oghash
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            I'd rather Wickham over bolaise

            1. El Cube
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Between Wickham & Townsend which one do you prefer?

              1. oghash
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                Wickham vs easy teams, townsend vs others

              2. Birds of Prey
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                I'm way in the minority, but for a CPL middie, I'd consider Cabaye-- on pens, corners, any dead ball in opps half. and started well last season

                1. oghash
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  He'll lose most of his free kicks now.

                  He'll be playing so deep the only thing about him will be the occasional pen. Not worth it imo

    3. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      good team can't you get Wickam> 6.5?

      1. El Cube
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        I want CPL coverage. Good opening fixtures dont you think?

    4. cdfcdevils
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I reckon Wickham is nailed on for the first couple of weeks but Palace will buy a striker and unless Wickham is banging them in by then I cant see him holding his spot.

      1. Hazard for Ballon D'or
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Another option may come through by then

  19. Hazard for Ballon D'or
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Who are we expecting to start in defence for Arsenal? Captain firmino?

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Bellerin holding chambers monreal

      1. Hazard for Ballon D'or
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Is chambers fit? How long are mert and Gabriel out for? Chambers worth a punt?

    2. the cromulent one
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Not insane. But I'd still captain Aguero at home to Sunderland.

    3. DJSapien
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Chambers and Holding?

    4. 8ball
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      doubt he plays both chambers and holding. expect debuchy or monreal to fill in.

  20. Ronnies
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Keep changing my team...

    How does this look ??

    heaton - (foster)

    terry - valencia - morgan - (friend, smith)

    hazard - tadic - lamela - townsend - (capoue)

    kun - ibra - gray

    Any feedback welcome

    Tnks

    1. Judas
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      tadic, lamela and townsend are all big risks. would only have 1 or 2 max of those 3

  21. Judas
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Hello late night scouts.

    First RMT draft of the season, here we go...thoughts?:

    Valdes, Foster
    Friend, Valencia, Terry, Souare, Walker
    Martial, Deulofeu, Hazard, Feghouli, Fletcher
    Aguero, Gray, Vardy

    1. waldo666
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I don't mind it but going with both of Deulofeu and Feghouli is a bit of a risk for mine

    2. the cromulent one
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Nice!
      I'd prefer Firmino in there rather than Martial, and Feghouli is weak for a 4th mid. But those are personal preferences more than anything.

    3. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Watch Terry and Souare for potentially injuries
      Otherwise like it

      1. oghash
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Souare is not injured

  22. waldo666
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    So I know it can be hard to comment without seeing a full team but I have 0.5 ITB and feel like Martial to Hazard would be wise, thoughts?

    1. Judas
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      both...

      1. waldo666
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Would be nice but can't work it with Kun and Ibra of which I am pretty settled

    2. the cromulent one
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Probably wise, yes. Mou admitted that ManU is very much a work in progress, especially in attack.

    3. Recoba
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I like Martial and I think its wise

  23. the cromulent one
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Beyond the scoreline, how did Vardy & Mahrez look? From what I understand, Vardy's goal was well-taken, but was an absolute gift from Fellaini.
    Any reason to think that the Leicester attack is essential for gw1?

    1. Judas
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      With very few 3rd striker picks, I think Vardy is a good shout especially vs Hull

    2. Chelsea Dagger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      They play Hull week 1. Vardy or Mahrez seem essential.

      1. Chelsea Dagger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Mahrez was non existent vs. Man Utd, but doesn't mean he'll be that way next weekend

  24. Gussy
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Hi guys,

    Which combo do you think will yield more points?

    A) Vardy, Sanchez, Redmond
    B) Kane, Firmino, Tadic

    Thank you!

    1. the cromulent one
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Great question. I think B edges it.
      I'd say that A has a higher ceiling, and B has a higher floor.

      1. Gussy
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Haha you read my mind with that response, that is what makes it so difficult. 🙁
        Thank you for taking the time to reply!

  25. Zasa
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    God damn, traffic is bonkers all of a sudden in the DZ 😯

    1. oghash
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Was just thinking that.

      1. Zasa
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Gonna miss the off-season, now it's gonna be RMT galore for the next few weeks.

        1. oghash
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Yup, i only answer a few. They never say thanks or help others. Last season I think I did about 4 pages answering everyone who asked and it was going really fast, Got about 1 or two thank yous.

          As my mum used to tell me, manners cost nothing 🙂

          1. Zasa
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            +1000

            Too true mate, happens all too often. Real shame that the RMT article was a complete failure.

            1. Parm
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              I would pay my membership fee just for a members only discussion place.

              1. Zasa
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                I would too, that's a great idea.

                More down to being way, way less active than FFS, but FISO has it right. All FPL related talk in one place, as well as a dedicated thread for match day banter. Then all individual RMT threads in another sub-section. Proper forum that.

                1. oghash
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Yes, a traditional forum is always better than this style. More structured

                2. Parm
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  The idea of a forum and/or members discussion are have been shot down by the scouts, guess they want to keep the high traffic which is a shame, really brings down the quality of posts and discussion, in my opinion.

                  1. oghash
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    You're right. I work in the gaming industry and it's all about clicks,traffic generated towards those clicks for affiliate links. A members area would reduce that.

                    Depends what deal they have really for the affiliate traffic. It'll never happen even if it's a good idea.

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      Of course there is no reason why select members couldn't have a chat room elsewhere

                      1. oghash
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        True, some do on phones I think

                      2. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Thee was a whatsapp thing which was mooted at some point. Quite a few did that. I don't really want to do anything on mobile so I declined. I might have a think on this I think I could come up with something

                      3. Zasa
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        DZ chat strictly with regulars that contribute would be neat idea imo...

                      4. oghash
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Yes, have a think.

                    2. Parm
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      I'm not sure what traffic deals they get but the number of sponsored/promoted posts is relentless. Now with Draftkings/Fanduel involved Mark must be rolling in it.

                      1. oghash
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        They work two main ways usually. You either get a small amount of money per sign up and deposit and then you get a percentage of losses on those accounts. The second way is just a larger amount of money on sign up/deposit.

                        This is why they have the links saying click here. Because if you just went to the site to open an account they'd get no money.

                        They need new people opening all the time which is why they like it this way as it forces people to always be on the active article, which then means they can say look at how many views our last article got on this company, give us a better deal and you might get more. Plus the traffic is football fans which is the largest sport in the world being bet on.

                  2. Zasa
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    I guess there's an argument for not fixing it if it isn't broken. But this set-up just seems so archaic, imo. J
                    It's just one big unstructured blog.

                    Proper forums bring up the post quality tenfold & would weed out more people that just dip in here for RMT's then bounce.

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      I would like to be able to say $%%$ and (*&*(*

                    2. Parm
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      The problem is that FFS has monopolised the Fantasy Premier League consumer market. When you have a successful model you keep using it and if you look as an outsider and were considering creating a rival website, how would you even begin to compete?

                      1. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        I don't think anyone would want to compete. Just subsidise it a bit with somewhere you can f and jeff and have a bit off topic conversation and maybe talk about something without 5 pages going by

                      2. oghash
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        It will happen, it happens with all services, something will eventually replace this and so on. I think with the Daily Fantasy Games if they get their act together and become more american like then these types of sites like ffs will go because you'll get all the data for free from them and they'll have a community also.

                        Not that I want FFS to vanish, quite the opposite.

                        Who remembers Firefly, like an early Facebook. I loved it and it was just starting to take off so Microsoft bought it and closed it so it didn't rival MSN Messenger. Happens to all sites.

                      3. oghash
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        hmmm, I'm not a techy, is it a chat room?

              2. oghash
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                So would I

                1. Cheeseoid
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  There could be a thread on food

                  1. oghash
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 11 months ago

                    Exactly, and an over 18 thread so we can be funny.

                    1. Cheeseoid
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      It would be nice to have page like that

                      1. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        I might have made something 😉

                    2. Zasa
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 11 months ago

                      ...or a thread on movies & TV 😍

                      *swoons*

                      1. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Maybe just something to get us past the next week as this place will be mayhem. I have one we could use but I don't like to publish here

                      2. oghash
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Chat room?

                      3. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Just a forum. The type I have used for producing Fiffsa and that kind of thing

                      4. oghash
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Email it to us all, you have us. Maybe include Balders, get him to come back to life.

                      5. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        I will mail who I have. But I don't have that many people. We could trial it for a week during crazy week

                      6. oghash
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Good idea

                      7. Zasa
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Nice one

                      8. Ayew Serious
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        Do you have my email Cheese?

                      9. Cheeseoid
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 13 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        I have sent a few invites but I am missing a lot of emails for people who I think might like to do it. I have yours Ayew

                      10. oghash
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 11 months ago

                        I have joined!

  26. Bruisers FC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Are there any 5.5 or less assets from West Brom, West Ham, or Crystal Palace worth considering? I'm currently looking at:

    A) Fletcher
    B) Kouyote

    Advice? Are there any I missed?

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      A maybe Leko at WB if he gets nailed. I'd take Fletcher and the 1.0 itb.

  27. OLE BOLEH!
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    A- vardy + alli
    B- lukaku + mkhi
    C- lukaku + Mahrez

    Can't decide. Some opinions pls?
    Still not convinced with ibra/mkhi.
    Lukaku should recover by first game?

  28. Mark-O
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Holding is more nailed now since Gabriel is injured am I right?

    1. 8ball
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      do not think he starts. debuchy or monreal to fill in.

      1. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        those are outside backs.

  29. Cash Mané
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Just after some help as I'm looking to try get some players as a point of difference... What would be the most "template" team that is being thrown around on here? Cheers.

  30. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    We need to talk about this "always captain the guy at home" cr@p.

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s0qwHBMdKGMnND92mo9uappjtr3US7E-fgdvzG1H35Q/edit?usp=sharing

    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      And Kane's insane away record/cr@p home record.

    2. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      That's awesome but I was talking about the every week rotation of Kun/Ibra.