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With the Brazilian duo of Roberto Firmino and Philippe Coutinho, along with Adam Lallana, the Liverpool midfield was already full of attacking intent last season.

With Sadio Mane recruited from Southampton and Georginio Wijnaldum drafted in from Newcastle, Fantasy managers face an even tougher choice when selecting from Liverpool’s crowded list of midfielders.

With this in mind, we asked our team of contributors the β€œBurning Question” – β€œWhich of Jurgen Klopp’s midfield assets warrant investment?”

β€œDufflinks” aka Simon March (2014/15 FPL Champion) says…

Maybe it’s because I’ve been burned several seasons running by Liverpool midfielders (my Coutinho and Firmino double Gameweek double up last season was a notable disaster), but none of Liverpool’s players fill me with confidence this season.

Their opening fixtures don’t help their cause but, inevitably, somebody will emerge with form to tempt the good ship that is my Fantasy team towards the jagged rocks of red-arrow oblivion.

Or maybe this year it’ll be different. Firmino might play up front and Coutinho looks good value at 8.0. Then there’s Sadio β€˜not another hat-trick?’ Mane to think about.

The problem is, whichever I chose, I’m pretty certain I’ll be choosing be the wrong one. That’s really the challenge; there’s too little to pick between them at the moment and, meanwhile, there’s plenty of comparable and, arguably, safer options to look at elsewhere.

So the short answer is that, for all the undeniable quality and potential in Liverpool’s midfield, a player would have to emerge as a really compelling and consistent option before I can bring myself to look in that direction again.

Mark says…

It’s fortunate that Liverpool’s fixtures are so unappealing early on – that should give us the opportunity to assess matters further before being lured to invest in Klopp’s midfield.

My love/hate relationship with Mane is well known on these pages and inevitably my heart is screaming to side with the Senegalese.

Meanwhile, my head will urge me to play safe and stick with Firmino. He’s the option most likely to be backed by Klopp and a player who could find himself spearheading the Liverpool attack as a false nine – that’s certainly been the case in pre-season.

With 0.5 in change, it seems obvious to opt for the Brazilian, although Mane’s tendency to explode goals remains a nagging concern.

Elsewhere, both Wijnaldum and Countinho cloud the issue further.

Much as I’d like Coutinho’s class to translate to emphatic Fantasy returns, I fear he’ll be reduced to providing the probing passes that go unrewarded, relying on numerous improbable strikes from range to keep his tally ticking.

Firmino ahead of the Gameweek 6 clash with Hull, looks the likely route. I only hope that a slow start will keep his price grounded and that Mane’s output to that point doesn’t turn my head further.

Jonty says…

In my view there are just three main protagonists in the Liverpool midfield, each offering something different depending on your style of Fantasy management.

For the β€œdullards” amongst us there is Firmino: a known favourite of Klopp who looks the most nailed on of the midfield.

He also has a strong debut season under his belt, accruing 155 points even though it took him around two months to cement himself in the side.

His ten goals, eight assists and 18 FPL bonus points last term also show his game offers broad points potential. It will come as no surprise to reveal that this β€˜Steady Eddy’ of Klopp’s unit is this dullard’s top Liverpool midfield target.

For the Maverick there is a Mane. He’s incredibly frustrating and inconsistent, but his explosive potential is tailor made for the risk taking Fantasy manager.

Take last season for example. After failing to score in the Premier League for four months he went on a sensational and unexpected scoring run that included a brace against Liverpool and a hat-trick against Manchester City.

Finally, for the stats obsessives, Coutinho offers a third route.

Last season no other midfielder had more goal attempts than his tally of 111. But with just eight goals from this effort he is a goal explosion that may never arrive.

Paul says…

Roberto Firmino.

I reckon Wijnaldum’s potential will be somewhat diminished by his ability to play in a deeper central midfield role, whilst Coutinho’s underlying numbers will always flatter to deceive – essentially, this is a player who has scored 4.9% and 7.2% of his chances in the last two seasons and lacks a cutting edge.

This leaves Firmino and Sadio Mane as my favoured Liverpool midfield options. Whilst both are versatile enough to play as a β€œfalse nine” or in the attacking midfield positions, I simply feel that Firmino is a class above the summer signing from Southampton.

The Brazilian’s output with Klopp in charge underlines his capabilities.

Firmino averaged 5.8 points per match under the German’s guidance last season and, despite Liverpool’s tricky opening schedule, it’s worth bearing in mind that the former Hoffenheim man picked up returns against the likes of Chelsea, Leicester, Man City and Arsenal amongst others in 2015/16.

A player of that calibre, with such fixture-proof potential and priced relatively kindly at 8.5, looks irresistible.

Spencer says…

Some of Klopp’s games last season where a joy to watch, with aggression, directness, and attacking intent all key to Liverpool’s play. With a raft of new acquisitions the German has firmly cemented his ethos in the side and there are high hopes for this season.

Amongst their midfielders, Firmino certainly looks the best option.

He was Liverpool’s top goal scorer last season and has shown the magic that he can produce on the pitch. Added to that, some impressive outings as a false nine position further cement his appeal.

Coutinho has often produced impressive underlying statistics, but his end product has been lacking. The key question is whether Klopp get some consistency from the young Brazilian and whether that will translate to Fantasy points returns.

Meanwhile, Lallana has also shone under Klopp. One could argue that the former Southampton midfielder has played his best football at Liverpool during his tenure. But his starting role has never looked assured since arriving at Anfield.

Then we have the new signings – Mane and Wijnaldum. Both have similar statistics (11 goals and six and five assists respectively) and could yet emerge as strong options under Klopp.

Lack of European competition should ease rotation fears, but it could also breed discontent as those left on the bench become increasingly unsatisfied with their lack of game time.

Fixtures are also tough early on but I don’t think this will hinder Liverpool. They played exceptionally well against many so called bigger sides last season.

As soon as it becomes clear which midfielder is most assured of starts and demonstrates consistency, they are heading straight for my squad.

Applebonkers says…

This is a very interesting one, as are Liverpool as a whole with Klopp’s feet now fully under the table and no European distractions.

Firmino was a quiet colossus once he broke into the side properly and there’s no reason why at 24 he can’t push on even more.

Hamstring injuries and the Europa League kept Coutinho away from blue-star status but there were actually signs of a consistent FPL points scorer developing.

Mane is too mercurial to predict, he may also be more prone to bench-time with Lallana lurking.

Then there’s the dishwater duo of Milner and Henderson. They will play too deep with Milner expected to fill in at left-back and, thanks to Emre Can and Wijnaldum, there’s just too much competition for places.

I’ve got a good feeling about Liverpool this season, I think they’ll overwhelm a lot of sides and rack-up some big wins. Like hairy conjoined twins prepping for the beach, two Brazilians could be the answer here.

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  1. Rolls-Royce
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Likelihood of Funes Mori starting?

  2. Cecil The Lion
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Word of warning about Leicester.

    Teams will not treat them like relegation favourites when playing them anymore. They will treat them for the Champions that they are.

    The element of surprise is gone

    1. chelseabrad
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      But they were still winning games at the end of the season without that factor...

      1. JIM BOB
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        This

      2. Cecil The Lion
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        They were grinding out results by the end. And most teams that didn't have anything to play for were more than obliging.

    2. KOLASINA(C)
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      They still should be fine for 13-man Hull. Fixtures are with Leicester.

      1. Cecil The Lion
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Everyone will play Hull twice

    3. DeathoftheParty
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      The surprise was gone when they stuffed city in the new year... they're good at what they do and many have yet to find an answer.

      Plus...

      Hull will be rightly treated as relegation candidates.

      1. Cecil The Lion
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        By then the title race was pretty much over. Only Spurs were in it. And well they are just Spursy- whilst everyone else was trying their best to help Leicester against them anyway

  3. LONG LIVE ZOLA
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Hazard and Lamela or Mahrez and Siggy?

    1. Jonny HOW SON?
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      First

    2. KISSES
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      1

    3. chelseabrad
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      A

      1. Arsenal@Gunners
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        1

    4. KOLASINA(C)
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Haz+La easily.

      Siggy with no preseason.

  4. KISSES
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Tadic or Redmond?

    1. chelseabrad
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Redmond, cheaper

  5. DeathoftheParty
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Finished... CBA... this is it... don't care any more...

    Foster (jaku)
    Friend, morgan, Valencia (Pieters, Byram)
    Ramirez, lamela, Oscar, firmino (capoue)
    Kun, Ibra, vardy

    Any thoughts are always welcome , thanks!

    1. Penzardlife
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Surprisingly strong despite your stacked front 3, good to go

  6. Net Gains
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Is there anyone who has Aguero who isn't captaining him GW1?

    1. Gazpilicueta
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Thinking about Vardy......

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      o/

      Currently on Hazard

      1. MoeZe3bi
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Im captaining Ibra instead

    3. roghippo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yes I'm going with Zlatan.

      1. Swans4life
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Think vardy as its hull

  7. Jonny HOW SON?
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Are you getting Ibrahimovic or not?

    A) Yes
    B) No

    1. JIM BOB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. H-SF
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Nope

    3. KOLASINA(C)
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yes, of course. This guy is worth the risk.

    4. Respect My Authoritah
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not to start with, no

    5. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      C.can't decide.

    6. Jonny HOW SON?
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Those who aren't getting him, what's your front 3?

    7. chelseabrad
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      A

    8. MoeZe3bi
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      And Ive captained him

    9. ChristoBisto
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      No. Wilson, Kun, Gray. (But mids are Hazard, Firminio, Sanchez, Redmond currently).

      1. Jonny HOW SON?
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I have the same ATM without Sanchez πŸ˜€

  8. Colonel Klink
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Is Stekelenburg first choice under Koeman, or Valdes?

  9. BB-8
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Pages flying. Thoughts?

    Foster - Jaku
    Valencia - Stones - Friend - Pieters - Souare
    Hazard - Firmino - Alli - Deulofeu - Capoue
    Aguero - Vardy - Gray

    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Good team, all players decent picks so not much to nit pick at.

      1. BB-8
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers πŸ™‚

    2. H-SF
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      basically the same as mine with Redmond for deu and walker for stones.

    3. Goaldigger
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Good but I dont like Firms fixtures and also I wouldn't want to start the season without Ibra.

      1. BB-8
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Arsenal will be playing Holding and Chambers. I fancy a few goals for pool. Also Ibra is not worth the price tag yet imo

    4. adidasOriginals
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Quality line-up!

  10. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Martial, mahrez and Wilson

    Or

    Alli firmino and vardy

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B imo

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Firmino, Mahrez, Wilson.

      You don't need United 'coverage'. Firmino is a better pick than Martial imo.

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Sorry, misread. Alli, Firmino and Vardy yeah.

    3. Ayew Serious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      The second one. Definitely

    4. Ludo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B by a fair bit, but there is the price difference.

    5. Sylas
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      AFV

    6. Neto
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      b

    7. Litti10
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B

      Martial not the greatest option at this stage as United's attack hasnt yet gelled and he looked tired today. Mahrez has been quiet in his last few matches too. Firmino I think will be a great pick as he excelled in the so called harder fixtures last season and Vardy has form and fixtures.

  11. jaguar shark
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    best 5.5 defender?
    walker + shaw?

    1. JIM BOB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Valencia

      1. Hy liverpool
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        ^^

    2. Cecil The Lion
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not Walker. Will be rotated as soon as UCL starts

    3. KOLASINA(C)
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Valencia. Terry could be nice if Zouma wasn't lurking

  12. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I believe the correct way to describe my current team is 'lit' followed by multiple flame emojis.

    1. THE REAL RON ⚽
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      πŸ˜†

  13. DA Minnion (Former great)
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Really want to go aguero ibra vardy and hazard but the rest will be ugly.

  14. Davido989
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Going to have to go without one of Aguero, Kane or Vardy. Not looking forward to this.

    1. Cecil The Lion
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Be brave and do it.

      I'm going Aguero Zlatan Kane

      1. Davido989
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I like balance πŸ™‚

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'm going without 2 of them πŸ™

      1. JÆKS ⭐
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        How is the team going?

    3. Ayew Serious
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Kdb, Alli or Mahrez.

      The replacements should be a factor

      1. Davido989
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Could be. Guess Alli works money wise. But I don't think you can necessarily cover points from Aguero/Kane. Vardy less so.

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Alternatives would be a better word

    4. Ludo
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      How about this?

      Foster - 4m
      Shaw - 4.5m - 4.5m - 4.5m - 4.5m
      Hazard - Tadic - Townsend - Ramirez - 4.5m
      Aguero - Kane - Vardy

      1. Davido989
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Definitely an option. But I can't see myself going with it

      2. Sanguinista
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Fancy a Firmino in there given Arsenal's defensive woes. Downgrade Hazzy to Oscar and upgrade Townsend to Firmino?

        1. Ludo
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 1 month ago

          That could work too, sure. Would also give you 0.5m to swap two 4.5s for a 5.5 and a 4.0.

          I can't see myself going with it either, really, but if you nail the right budget options, it could be gold.

  15. Numb
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Pogba's been added to Telegraph FF already at 5.7

    For context, Mahrez is 5.0 and Payet is 5.3 so this is probably equivalent to 10.0 in FPL

    Whatever the FPL price I reckon there will be a LOT of owners!

    1. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'm hoping his ownership is massive.

      1. KOLASINA(C)
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Same, let normies be burned.

      2. Numb
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        It's bound to be pretty big but he's surely unlikely to play GW1 - only just off his holidays! Then half of them will sell him!

    2. JIM BOB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      He'll be overpriced, for sure.

    3. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'm hoping he's less than £9.0m so everyone chooses him as their United option 😎

    4. Bubz
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      He will be 9.5 in fpl I think

  16. Romford Pele - Don't w…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Is Byram now start xi for West Ham?

    1. JIM BOB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not for long. About to sign a left back

      1. KOLASINA(C)
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Would you get Souare instead?

  17. H-SF
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else have players in their team since teh start but when they perform in pre-season everyone else puts them in so they no longer are a differential:? typical lol

    1. Ruth_NZ
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Until next Saturday you don't have a fixed team. Neither does anyone else. It is who is there at 11:30 next Saturday that counts and that's all that counts.

  18. MoeZe3bi
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Your thoughts?

    DDG- Jaku

    Evans-Taylor-Gabriel-Azpi-Valencia

    Lamela-Firmino-Feghouli-Tadic-(Fletcher)

    Ibra-Aguero-Gray.

    1.0 ITB
    ***

    Tadic or Siggy?:/

  19. GoonerByron
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Might just go super cheap in midfield (Although all of them are almost OOP in decent teams) with a bit of money in the bank should I need to upgrade somewhere..

    Foster (Jaku)
    Terry - Valencia - VVD (Kone) (Amat)
    Mahrez - Iwobi - Redmond - Bojan (Routledge)
    Aguero - Vardy - Costa

    1.5 in the bank

    Thoughts??

    1. jaguar shark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Costa could be a sneaky good pick this season...

  20. Gazpilicueta
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Whats the deal with Wimmer, is he gonna play for long? is he gonna play at all, any spurs fans around or knowledgable people?

    1. JIM BOB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Vert back soon isn't he?

    2. H-SF
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      he will play when Vertonghen is injured or we have a congested fixture period (i.e only in the winter period). Not a good pick but he may start the first game.

  21. JIM BOB
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Which of these players will score the most FPL points over the whole season?

    A.) KDB or Hazard?

    B.) Payet, Ozil or Mahrez?

    C.) Costa or Vardy?

    Thanks chaps πŸ™‚

    1. Davido989
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Just an opinion..

      Hazard, Ozil, Vardy.

      1. st4rt__
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Hazard, PayetThis. & Vardy.

    2. Kante Be Bothered
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard
      Ozil
      Costa

    3. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard Ozil Costa (if he stays)

    4. chelseabrad
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard, Ozil, Costa if he stays and no Lukaku

  22. GinjaWhinja
    • 17 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Best mid for 5.5m?
    I'm tempted by Delph...really think he could make a few forward runs & passes.

    1. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Won't run too far from the bench.

    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Go with him then.
      I would not touch him with a barge pole.

    3. GinjaWhinja
      • 17 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Gaston Ramirez?

  23. zalar88
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    is this team ok? tear it..
    foster(jaku)
    walker, valencia,morgan,(b.smith,friend)
    hazard,firmino,delboy,tadic,(capoue)
    kun(c),vardy,gray

    0.5itb.
    any advice?anyone?

  24. Original Sin
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    who ill score more?

    Eriksen + Siggi
    OR
    Lamela + Hazard

    1. Arsenal@Gunners
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B

      1. Original Sin
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Anyone else? I really need to decide

  25. JAC THE CAT
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Mane now in more teams than Firmino πŸ™

    1. THE REAL RON ⚽
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      #differential. 😎

      1. JIM BOB
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Works for me πŸ™‚

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      πŸ™

  26. Sjaugen
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Ibra Firminio Deulufeu
    Vardy Mane Tadic

    Opinions for the first 3/4 gws?

    1. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Tough, B for me

    2. Litti10
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B

  27. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    a) Musa, Sanchez, Byram
    or
    b) Vardy, Tadic, Terry

    ??

    1. badger1982
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. MoeZe3bi
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Musa didnt start today, sanchez needs to find form.

      B, by far

    3. Sjaugen
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Clearer b than mine

  28. FPLMaverick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Think I'm happy with this team. What do people think?

    Foster, Mannone
    Zabaleta, Friend, Souare, Kone, Smith (4.0 one)
    Hazard, Sanchez, Townsend, Deulofeu, Routledge
    Aguero, Kane, Rhodes

    1. badger1982
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Oh townsend I hadn't really considered him.

      Don't really like Mannone. Wait and see if Moyes has the defence shored up like Big sam did.
      Zabaleta no use either imo. Sagna will play most games.

  29. badger1982
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Second draft.....

    Heaton
    Valencia | Friend | VVD
    Hazard | Firminho | Redmond | Barkley
    Costa | Long | Aguero

    Foster | Feghouli | Pieters | Taylor

    Any pointers welcome πŸ™‚

  30. Kante Be Bothered
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this?

    Courtois Jakupovic
    Shaw Stones(City) Pieters Walker Paredes
    Mkhitaryan Hazard Lamela Redmond Fletcher
    Aguero Costa Gray

    1. Litti10
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I wouldnt have Stones even if he did go to City as their defence looks like shambles at this point. Mkhi is a bad pick too because he hasnt yet developed chemistry with the rest of the United attack and will take some time to get going I think.