Moving Target
11 August 2016 2600 comments
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Having bolstered Man City’s attacking options with the acquisition of Nolito and Leroy Sane, new manager Pep Guardiola moved to strengthen his defence this week with the signing of Everton defender John Stones for a fee believed to be £47.5 million.

The 22-year-old England international put pen to paper on a six-year deal at the Etihad, and speaking to the club’s official website, revealed his happiness at joining City, and his desire to earn his place in Guardiola’s starting XI:

“I’ve obviously seen what’s going on here at the Etihad, it’s an ambitious club with a great manager so I can’t wait to get stuck in and help achieve the goals. I know it will be tough getting a place in this team but I’m determined to become the best player I can be and help us to success.”

The History

Stones came through Barnsley’s youth set-up, progressing all the way through to the first team. He made his professional debut in a 4-0 defeat to Reading in March 2012, and managed 28 appearances in all competitions for the Tykes, scoring one goal.

In January 2013, Everton paid Barnsley a fee reportedly in the region of £3 million to secure the young defender’s services, although he had to wait until August 2013 to make his debut for the Toffees, coming in a 2-1 against Stevenage in the League Cup.

Stones’ Premier League debut eventually came in a 1-1 draw against Stoke in January 2014, and he enjoyed a strong second half of the campaign, racking up a further 20 league appearances.

Whilst injury curtailed Stones’ progress during the first half of the 2014/15 season, he ended the campaign as a regular starter, and totaled 23 league appearances, scoring one goal.

Last season, the cultured centre-back was Phil Jagielka’s regular partner at the heart of the Everton defence, clocking up 33 appearances, although he failed to register any attacking returns. His individual performances did come under some criticism, though, with Everton’s disappointing campaign eventually leading to the departure of Roberto Martinez.

Stones represented England at Under 19, Under 20 and Under 21 levels, making 17 appearances in total, before earning a senior debut off the bench in a 3-0 win over Peru in May 2014. He was included in Roy Hodgson’s squad for Euro 2016, but was one of only two outfield players, along with Ross Barkley, not to feature in the tournament. He currently has 10 international caps but has yet to score for his country.

The Prospects

With Vincent Kompany expected to miss the opening weeks of the season due to a thigh injury, Stones will fancy his chances of going straight into the starting XI for Saturday’s season opener against Sunderland.

Guardiola started with Aleksandar Kolarov and Fernando in central defence in City’s final pre-season match against Arsenal, but it could be that Stones partners Nicolas Otamendi against the Black Cats. The England man has got plenty of minutes under his belt playing for the Toffees during pre-season, and should physically at least be ready for the big kick-off.

Furthermore, Eliaquim Mangala has not been included in City’s Champions League squad, which indicates the Frenchmen will likely be allowed to leave before the transfer window closes.

Guardiola favours using a four-man backline, so when Kompany does return to full fitness, it could leave Stones and Otamendi battling for one position. Given the investment made in the England international, he may be the one to keep his place providing he settles quickly in Manchester.

The major positive for Stones’ prospects is the fact Guardiola places so much emphasis on his defenders initiating attacks through their distribution, as he explained last month:

“Normally central defenders are strong in the air and aggressive. But we need to have a good build-up to create easy passes in the midfield so they can create good passes for the strikers. I believe when the ball goes from the central defender to the striker as quickly as possible, it comes as quickly as possible back.”

Crucially, amongst all defenders who played over 1000 minutes last season, Stones was ranked fourth for completed passes with 88%, illustrating his capability as a ball-playing defender.

Comparing the underlying statistics of Stones, Kompany and Otamendi from last season, it’s the Argentine who comes out on top. The former Valencia defender averaged a tackle every 21.4 minutes, far superior to both Kompany (45.9) and Stones (48.1). He held a similar advantage in terms of interceptions too, managing one every 27 minutes, better than both Stones (52.4) and Kompany (53.9).

The only significant area where Stones led the way amongst the trio came via blocks, averaging one every 83.9 minutes, far better than both Otamendi (215.9) and Kompany (310).

Otamendi could hold the edge for CBI, then, although the fact Kompany only managed 13 starts last season and was generally far from his best is perhaps not indicative of what we can expect if he can stay fit for a prolonged period of time.

The big factor in Stones’ favour from a Fantasy perspective is the fact he’s priced at 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), whereas both Kompany and Otamendi are valued at 6.0.

That disparity is likely to be one of the main reasons why Stones’ ownership has soared to 27% since the move was confirmed, and if City can equal or better the 16 clean sheets they accrued last season, the former Barnsley man could provide fantastic value providing he’s a regular starter.

As highlighted by this recent in-depth article on Guardiola’s tactics, the signs are promising:

“Guardiola has had the best defensive record in every league campaign of his career at Barcelona and Bayern Munich. Tellingly, the most goals he’s ever conceded came in the first of those seven seasons and the fewest came in his last one with Bayern”.

Stones does, however, lack any real goal threat, having only averaged an attempt every 366.9 minutes last term. That was far worse than Otamendi (104) and Kompany (112.7), both of whom have scored at decent number of goals throughout their careers.

City’s fixtures over the first six Gameweeks (SUN, sto, WHM, mun, BOU, swa) are fairly mixed though, so while Stones may offer tremendous value now playing for a side expected to compete for the title, it may take Guardiola time to get his methods across to his players – something that won’t be helped by Stones’ late arrival should he be thrust straight into the action.

Over the course of the season then, there’s every expectation that Stones could develop as a viable FPL asset under Guardiola’s guidance.

With a number of similarly priced options such as Robert Huth, Michael Keane, Ramiro Funes Mori, Alberto Moreno, Steve Cook, Patrick van Aanholt and Craig Dawson offering significantly greater goal threat, though, the City new boy may need to up his attacking output to offer exceptional value.

Further Reference

John Stones Wikipedia

John Stones Transfer Markt Page

John Stones You Tube

  1. Bobmarley121
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Got a dilemma do I

    A Sanchez hazard gray

    B Ali firmino costa

    1. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A

    2. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A

  2. Pariße
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    How will Tottenham attackers line-up GW1?

    1. twisterteo
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I can suppose same as preseason

      Alli Eriksen Lamela

      Kane

      1. Pariße
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Did Alli play double pivot role at times last season?

        1. Net Gains
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          No, that's between Dier, Dembele and Wanyama only

    2. thewhitepele
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Lamela - Alli - Eriksen
      Kane

      1. Pariße
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks 🙂

  3. twisterteo
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    A. Hazard Lamela Ramirez Redmond

    B. Oscar Alli Tadic Bojan

    ...what option? Please heeeelp

  4. QPRUTD
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Why's no one going for Jack Butland this time? He was good last term

    1. Clump
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      New manager. Probably new defensive ideas. Nice cheap rotating keepers elsewhere.
      VVD is a decent option into that defence.

      1. Jamie_GAWA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        VVD plays for Stoke?

        1. Clump
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          🙂 Mixing up my keepers.

      2. Sylas
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Isn't Butland from Stoke?

    2. Teddy Brewski
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      0.5 more and poor fixtures initially

    3. gbpearce - AMERICAN DYCHO
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'm looking at him for GW 5 through 14

    4. For Farke's Sake
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Fixtures

  5. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    A members only section to post in would be so awesome.
    Last season was awful, no use posting as discussions is pointless to even try instigating.
    This year will be even more horrible.

  6. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Valencia form B on watchlist, every other player (including nine goal Gray) is C 😎

    1. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      My mistake, Gray is A 😮

  7. Judeksi
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    If Stones isn't nailed on from the beginning his price will drop fast.. about 27% ownership ATM.

    1. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Think I'm going to avoid Stones, at least until Kompany is back in and its all settled.

      Only Sunderland game appeals at the moment for me if City have a makeshift defence. Couple of non-CS games and people will start to get rid I reckon.

  8. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    hey guys i dont normally as alot of questions but i have 2 that are bothering me:

    1)sanchez or hazard for first 3 games irrespective of price.
    2) vardy and redmond or long and silva, again frist 3 weeks only.
    thx if any1 takes the time to answer.

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Hazard, Long and Silva

    2. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Vardy, Redmond and Hazard.

      1. tets mcgee (Ha La Land)
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        thx for the replies

  9. Roy Rovers
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Finished at long last......unless you tell me otherwise!!!

    Foster - Heaton
    Valencia - Stones - Friend (Kone, Amat)
    Oscar - Lamela - Firminon - Ramirez (Capoue)
    Aguero - Ibra - Vardy

    Let me know!!

    1. twisterteo
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I like it...very similar to mine except for a couple of midfielders...

    2. Teddy Brewski
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sorry pal, hate the midfield

      1. Roy Rovers
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        No probs TB..oh hate Oscar?

        1. Teddy Brewski
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          And Lamela (as much as i want him to be a great pick!). They are both huge rotation risks imo. Could work but safer options elsewhere. I suppose that's the risk you take when having 3 premium strikers

    3. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      That midfield is a little thin. Downgrade Vardy to a 6.5

      1. Roy Rovers
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers but no Lei v Hull??

        1. jurgenklopp.8
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          don't need ibra 🙂

    4. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      You know what. Just go for it. Template is boring and there could be a some sweet points in that line up. Especially GW1.

      We all got burnt first GW last year!

      1. Roy Rovers
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers guys...all help much appreciated and best of luck to everyone

        1. Roy Rovers
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          And in Bergkop's words "Just go for it".....cheers

  10. cra1g0s
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    okay, tweaking is finally getting there and not long to go now (mm, Long, possibly for Gray?)

    Anyway, please rate what I think may be (getting to be) my final team...

    Foster / Heaton

    Shaw - Baines - Van Dijk - Stones - Friend

    Pogba - Hazard - Shaqiri - Eriksen

    Gray - Aguero - Musa

    ...I'd like to fit in Tadic and maybe a Liverpool midfielder but Ageuro won't let me

    1. ADucksBehind
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      It's not aguero that wont let you its that over the top defence

      1. cra1g0s
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I was just thinking the same, thanks for the advice

    2. Louis99
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Not too keen on pogba tbh, I'd be swapping him out Firmino and shaqiri to Tadic/Bojan but just preference

    3. gbpearce - AMERICAN DYCHO
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Good choice with Musa

  11. Louis99
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Is a Terry Valencia Stones defence too heavy do we think?
    It feels like it but I'm not sure how I'd use the extras

  12. khalnayak
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I don't think there are any good rotation combo defenders this season.
    Or are there any?
    Cry Palace / Swansea - Soure/Amat
    Hull / Mbrough - valdes/Jaku

  13. alfast1c
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Where is all the love for Siggy? Isnt he a great catch for 7.5 and good fixs?

    1. Costa's Counsellor
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Team falling apart around him.

    2. For Farke's Sake
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      How many games has he played in pre-season? If he starts he'll be walking around the pitch.

  14. tissae
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Dele Alli OR Firmino??

    1. Wings Fan
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Firmino

    2. ADucksBehind
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I'm starting with Alli just because of fixtures

    3. Punty McPuntface
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Firm

    4. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Firmino

    5. For Farke's Sake
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Absolutely both!

  15. Football creep
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Mignolet jakupovic
    Wimmer shaw stones Evans pieters

    Tadic fabregas deulofeu lamela townsand

    Aguero ibrahimovic Wilson

    Do I need any changes here?

  16. sk018
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Best GW for a planned WC? Most going for international break at GW4?

  17. NUFCAndrew
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone have the article for defensive rotations?

  18. SADIO SANÉ
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    I'll probably end up playing it safe and going with defenders from different teams but thinking about having Valdes, Friend AND Gibson, thoughts?

    Middlesbrough couldn't have much better fixtures (STK, sun, wba) and they've been solid in the last two seasons, especially at home (albeit in the Championship).

    I'd be leaving 1.5m ITB for upgrades (mainly for Vardy->Ibra or Mahrez->Sanchez/Hazard), with the option of upgrading defenders depending on how it goes. Likely to do an international break WC anyway..

    1. Jamie_GAWA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Was gonna go for this but why not spread the risk and get a 4.5 WBA defender and Kone at Everton

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Yeah, that is probably what I'll end up doing - think I just want the glory if Boro manage to start with 3 clean sheets, which I think is quite possible.

    2. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      "in the Championship" is the key here.

      Spreading risk is wise.

  19. Pariße
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Similar question as above...How will Everton midfield & attack line-up GW1?

  20. Sheeeit
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Down to what I think is my last decision and probably the hardest, so any help would appreciated.

    A) Hazard & Lamela
    B) Firmino & Alli

    Other 2 in midfield are Mahrez & Redmond.

    1. Louis99
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A by a mile

    2. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A for sure. Not keen on Alli. Will play deeper

    3. Sheeeit
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Thanks!

  21. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    2.2m players and 48 hours to go 😯

    Shouldn't at least be around the 3.0m mark by now for a normal year?

    1. Costa's Counsellor
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Tomorrow will be bonkers.

    2. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      That's already increased a lot in a couple of days. Will go up massively tomorrow and over the weekend

    3. Clump
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Seems low to me 🙁

  22. athreya
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    What is the FFS template?

    Heaton/xx
    Williams/United/Stones/Boro/xx
    Hazard/Tadic/Firmino/Fisher/xx
    Kun/Vardy/Gray

    Is that about right?

    1. DeathoftheParty
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      yeah (maybe Foster and Heaton?)

    2. mental
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      ibra,terry,foster for vardy,williams,heaton

    3. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Ok

  23. Tmel
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    a) Kone Firmino Townsend
    b) Amat Sanchez Capoue/Leko

    1. Punty McPuntface
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A for me!

  24. mental
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    RMT
    Foster/jaku
    Valencia,stones,friend,amat,smith
    haz,mahrez,firm,ramirez,capoue
    Kun,kane,carroll

  25. Punty McPuntface
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Who to score the most in the first 4 game weeks?
    A Ibra
    B vardy

    I'm going with B personally...

    1. thewhitepele
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Vardy

    2. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      B

      Great name by the way 🙂

      1. Punty McPuntface
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks!!

    3. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Agree

    4. gbpearce - AMERICAN DYCHO
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Vardy

  26. thewhitepele
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Foster - Jaku
    Valencia - Stones - Williams - Friend - Amat
    Haz - Eriksen - Firmino - Townsend - Capoue
    Kun - Vardy - Gray

    How likely will I get in trouble with the def GW1? Any ideas to improve?

  27. ididnt
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Any comments on this?

    DDG / Heaton

    Stones / Baines / Walker (Pieters, Amat)

    Tadic / Oscar / Townsend / Firmino (Feghouli (5.5)

    Augero / Vardy / Carroll

    Thanks a bunch

  28. Plagued by indecision
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Umpteenth draft. Would appreciate any advice/suggestions...

    Jakupovic / Foster
    Shaw / Stones / Williams / Amat / Paredes
    Hazard / Tadic / Firmino / Deulofeu / Capoue
    Aguero / Ibrahimovic / Gray

    Thanks!

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Deulofeu no go.

    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      No surprises

    3. Wings Fan
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Swap Paredes for a lower % owned 4.0, otherwise you're throwing money away.

  29. EXODIA
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    GK: Butland

    DEF: Bellerin - Fuchs - Stones

    MID: Ayew - Eriksen - Tadic - Fletcher

    FWD: Ibra - Aguero - Ighalo

    BENCH:
    Boruc - Taylor - Capoue - Paredes

    Please rip this apart and tell me what changes you think need to be made if any?

    1. ididnt
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      i would change ballerina to a 5.5 and look at an aye replacement until he is proven at WHM. Also - no to ighalo. who are your subs?

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      No chance