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21 August 2016 1535 comments
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Gameweek 2 rolls into Sunday with a lunchtime Wear-Tees derby clash.

Sunderland play host to a Middlesbrough side that earned a draw in their opening home encounter with Stoke City on day one. David Moyes’ side also emerged with some credit from their first fixture, losing out to Man City by a narrow 2-1 margin having equalised via a Jermain Defoe goal.

Defoe will once again carry the goal scoring burden for the Black Cats today, who are without Fabio Borini due to a toe injury. Moyes gives home debuts to Donald Love, Paddy McNair and Adnan Januzaj, while Papy Djilobodji earns his full debut at the back.

Aitor Karanka begins to rotate his Boro troops by bringing in Cristhian Stuani for Albert Adomah. Victor Valdes misses out with a training ground knock, opening the way for Brad Guzan to earn his debut in goal.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    60 points all out.

    Average week.

    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      With Aguero / Ibra and one of them captained?

      1. pundit of punts
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Aguero(c)

        No Ibra. Got him now though.

    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      68 not happy after my Ibra C start

    3. Venom Snake
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Better then being below par.

      Good score

    4. Jamie_GAWA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Same score, not happy

    5. vuleeeee
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      90

    6. Dušan Citizen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      70

    7. Neto
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      74

  2. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Please no last minute bonus point changes. I want 2 from Negrado so I hit 80 🙂

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Wouldn't you rather have 3?

      1. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Stuani is owning the 3. Van Aanholt is creeping up on Negrado

    2. Worzel Gummidge
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Do you only ever post talking about your team and your points?

        1. Hybrid.power
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Do you want to talk about the weather?

          1. Jazz!
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            😆

          2. Worzel Gummidge
              9 years, 7 months ago

              No but try and answer some questions about going on about your team and your points and me me me

              1. Hybrid.power
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                You can go through my comment history and see that I do also answer questions

      • Venom Snake
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        My rival is so lucky.

        Had Kun(c) and Ibra both score braces.

        1. Numb
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          What a tosspot

          1. Numb
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            You just can't legislate for jamminess like that

            1. Venom Snake
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              😆

        2. Hybrid.power
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          How is it luck? Is it luck if a player that you have scores?

        3. Podge
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Thats not luck 😆

        4. Ayew Holding Mee Cork
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          How is that lucky?

        5. noquarternt
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Ridiculous. So lucky! Get him to pick your lottery numbers!

        6. Bellerinmondo
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          great differentials too

      • Rolls-Royce
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Miralles worth a punt?

        1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Not for me. Too hot and cold

        2. Worzel Gummidge
            9 years, 7 months ago

            Not for me. Bolasie maybe. People seem to like Barkley

          • King Kohli
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            Don't see too many other options for 6.5 or 7m, assuming you have Redmond

        3. Mark-O
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Karanka is obsessed with Downing

          Poor fantasy asset but plays almost all 90' since last season

          1. noquarternt
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            Has to play him I think. Karanka nearly walked out of the job after the club signed Downing. Huge fight over the owners telling him to pick him. A January transfer window I think.

          2. Shifty
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            point being?

        4. arthadox
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Southampton are versing Sunderland, good time for Redmond/Long Captain?

          1. Mr. Grv
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            I'd Stick with my kun

          2. noquarternt
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            Yeah I guess there are no other proven strikers thrashing them in around the league.

          3. Bellerinmondo
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            I like this use of 'versing'

        5. Hurricane Gilbert
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          56 all out completely devastating gameweek, with big points on the bench again and a loss against my biggest rival in the H2H after that PvA goal. Can only get better (jinx) from here 😉

        6. Jamie_GAWA
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          What did your defence score this week?

          Mine scored 10

          1. Viper
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            27 from gk + 3 defenders

            1. El Patron
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              BAN 🙁

          2. Mr. Grv
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            11 , ha suck it

          3. Nabs Kebabs
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            8 but only played 2 at the back

          4. Podge
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            same

          5. Jigger & Pony
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            7
            6 1 6

          6. One Man
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            13, or 19 including goal keeper

          7. noquarternt
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            22

          8. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            10. 1 more than my midfield. Attack scored 41. Obviously lacking balance.

          9. vuleeeee
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            39

          10. MTPockets
              9 years, 7 months ago

              10 inc gk

            • Venom Snake
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              15.

              Shaw scored 11 of them.

            • Eden Azzzar
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              24

            • La Vida Latte
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              33 including keeper

          11. Viper
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            Noble a decent bet @ 14/1 first scorer

          12. anish10
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            Carroll > negredo
            Vardy > Ibra
            Sanchez > ozil

            All look good for a -4? Only way I can afford Ibra is to take Sanchez out

            1. Epic Fail
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              Yeah

            2. Worzel Gummidge
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Looks reasonable.

            3. El Patron
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              Friend, you are not my friend. No cs 🙁

              1. Neto
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Watmore my Friend? Mutch Love

              2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                I don't generally expect a CS in a local derby. Was hoping he'd score!

            4. Crouching Tiger
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              LOL at people who lolled me for taking Gray out for Negredo. Same points 😉

              1. Nabs Kebabs
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Waste of a transfer then. I use mine to increase points.

                1. Crouching Tiger
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Negredo better long-term and fixtures wise I think.

                  1. Shifty
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    gray looked very good, so did Burnley.

                    Both good picks.

              2. One Man
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                The world is a jungle Tiger!

            5. boooobah
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              Really pleased with my team atm (ranked top 10k) and have 2 FTs. Only player that is annoying me is Firmino.

              Would you:

              a) Transfer Firmino (probably to Barkley)

              b) Change my 4.0 keeper who doesn't play to Jaku and my 4.0 defender who doesn't play to Amat the activate bench boast ASAP to take advantage of 15 players who will all start.

              1. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Save

                1. boooobah
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Might as well make some kind of transfer as have 2 FTs though

              2. ZombieEaten
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Yeah

              3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Don't really get your question, but if you need to use a transfer look at the player that hasn't performed for you, look at his fixtures and see if there is a better fit out there for the same price.

                Don't use your chip

            6. Clumsy Sakho
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              Any chance 46 will scrape through LMS?

              1. Venom Snake
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Possible but I doubt it. Relatively high scoring week

            7. Worzel Gummidge
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Would you rather have Lamela or Redmond?

                1. Mr. Grv
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Red

                  1. One Man
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Same

                2. Neto
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Redmond

                3. Pavsboot
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Redmond

              • Greenbackbøøg…
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Best 5.0 mid?

                1. One Man
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Capoue or Moloney (Long term)

              • DrunkPhilosophy
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                So 27 on my bench last week and I was like okay, at least I have the players.

                Another 27 this week...

              • Fantasy Challenged
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Good Boro victory there!

                I've decided to use my 2 FT this week to get Vardy out for Ibra, but can't decide who to take out in midfield and for who. Help please!

                A) Firm --> Barkley
                B) Firm --> Lamela
                C) Townsend --> Gaston
                D) Other??

                Rest of midfield is Hazard, Tadic and Capoue with Kun and Gray up front.

                Shot lads.

                1. Norman Conquest
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  a

                2. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  A

                  1. One Man
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Same

                3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  B

              • Sihproma
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                67 Pts, seem average week

              • CelticBhoy1
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Thinking of bringing Sterling in.

                Thoughts?

                1. Clumsy Sakho
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Just no

                  1. CelticBhoy1
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Lol! Is he really that bad an option?

                2. Crouching Tiger
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Was a bit tempting but went for Barkley.

                3. Alan The Llama
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  8m for someone playing up front for a free scoring City. Probably going to do it myself.

                4. Worzel Gummidge
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    I would be worried about rotation. Auger or nothing for me atm.

                5. Tronity
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Vardy and Deulofeu > Ibra and Fletcher
                  2FTs and Capoue becomes my 4th midfielder/Fletcher my 5th

                  1. BERGKOP
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Yes

                    1. BERGKOP
                      • 14 Years
                      9 years, 7 months ago

                      * Ah didn't read Capoue 4th mid bit for some reason. No.

                      1. Tronity
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 7 months ago

                        Ah really?! Think Vardy and Deulofeu outscore Ibra and Capoue?

                  2. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Capoue still not fourth mid material

                    1. Tronity
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 7 months ago

                      It is debatable whether Deulofeu is at the moment though! And without it I'll be missing out on the Ibra points.
                      Could be a massacre against Hull and I think a lot of people will captain him.

                6. BERGKOP
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Gosh that's an interesting West Ham line up :S

                7. PnutButterWolf
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  I've been reading the articles/forums on this site for a while now and without doubt my fantasy performances have improved due to the common sharing of knowledge (wisdom of the crowd so to speak - everybody inputting their individual chinks of knowledge to create a shared source of information). It occurred to me that we could use this abundance of knowledge to predict results. Basically if a group of us with a history of high rankings, say inside the top 100,000 (i think this would be a decent indicator of ones ability to predict successfully) focused on 4/5 matches per gameweek and made a prediction for each; we could amalgamate those probabilities and i'd be interested to see how accurate they turned out. Ideally, Monday participants would form an informed opinion and then alter that as the week progressed based upon - research, injury news, reading the views of others etc. then offering a final probability on Friday. Would anyone be interested in this?

                  1. The Bandit
                    • 15 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    😀

                    1. PnutButterWolf
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 7 months ago

                      would you get involved?

                      1. The Bandit
                        • 15 Years
                        9 years, 7 months ago

                        Being good at FPL doesn't mean you are good at predicting scores. I'm crap at both 😉

                  2. Venom Snake
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Sounds like you're recruiting me to count cards at the casino

                    1. PnutButterWolf
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 7 months ago

                      I am! i'd share the knowledge though

                  3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Barely have time for FPL mate sorry

                  4. Oooof
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Let's start with this game.

                8. Cato Fong 你好
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  According to FPL Gareth Barry is on 19,124 transfers, when so is his price likely to rise.....ie, how does it work...

                  1. Bleach †
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    no, not even close to rising

                  2. Jigger & Pony
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Should rise when he crosses 80k net transfers in

                  3. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Wow. As if people actually use there FTs to chase Gareth Barrys points. This is a sad world.

                    1. Tronity
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 7 months ago

                      He's a Ibra enabler!

                  4. Epic Fail
                    • 15 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Get to to around 100 and price changes.
                    http://www.fplstatistics.co.uk/

                9. Bleach †
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  so thoughts what to do with Firmino and Mahrez, give more time?

                  1. Swanny18
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    I got rid of them both this week to bring in Haz and Barkley

                  2. One Man
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    I'm holding Mahrez

                10. FULLSERVICECOVER
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  transferred gray out for carrol,hes not even on the bench..this stuff makes me sick

                  1. Shifty
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    odd transfer after seeing Liverpool's defensive performance last week.

                    But i feel ya, spent 4 FTs last season getting Carroll in and out at time periods last season. got a couple of returns but nothing much to justify the transfers.

                    Good fantasy asset but inefficient use of transfers to warrant a spot in my team. Never again.

                    1. kijsberg
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 7 months ago

                      To be fair Gray only had 1 shot versus Liverpool IIRC, with Burnley just managing a total of 2 shots. Scored on both, won't happen every week.

                  2. Pavsboot
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Long season mate but geez thats unlucky.

                11. Davidinho
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Do keepers not spend their most of their professional lives practising making saves and getting up quickly ready for the next one. Watching that PvA goal, Guzan takes so long to get up.

                  Bitter Friend owner here 😛

                12. Greenbackbøøg…
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  Is Watmore nailed?

                13. Scotty B
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  64 all out this week which is around average I suppose. 3 problems though. Carroll, Ramirez & Routledge need to go one by one. Who should be first to go?

                  1. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Andy obvs

                14. ViewsFromThePo6ba
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 7 months ago

                  A) Sterling +Tadic (keep) or Cazorla
                  B) Ozil + Redmond

                  Which one?

                  1. Pavsboot
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 7 months ago

                    Like the look of B although there's a chance you might be a week too early on Ozil.

                    1. ViewsFromThePo6ba
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 7 months ago

                      I can't take drops on Firmino or Tadic.