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Dugout Discussion – Sunderland vs Middlesbrough

21 August 2016 1535 comments
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Gameweek 2 rolls into Sunday with a lunchtime Wear-Tees derby clash.

Sunderland play host to a Middlesbrough side that earned a draw in their opening home encounter with Stoke City on day one. David Moyes’ side also emerged with some credit from their first fixture, losing out to Man City by a narrow 2-1 margin having equalised via a Jermain Defoe goal.

Defoe will once again carry the goal scoring burden for the Black Cats today, who are without Fabio Borini due to a toe injury. Moyes gives home debuts to Donald Love, Paddy McNair and Adnan Januzaj, while Papy Djilobodji earns his full debut at the back.

Aitor Karanka begins to rotate his Boro troops by bringing in Cristhian Stuani for Albert Adomah. Victor Valdes misses out with a training ground knock, opening the way for Brad Guzan to earn his debut in goal.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Nomar
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Sunderland are the new Wigan.

    So, so bad but will find a way to survive every season.

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Except they have dominated boro so far?

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      1. Nomar
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Generally speaking, Lateriser, and they haven't looked like scoring despite their possession.Boro more likely to nab a second.

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        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          What game are you watching...

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          1. Worzel Gummidge
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Different one to me thats for sure. Sunderland are all over them.

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          2. Nomar
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            Sunderland v Boro.

            Lots of possession doesn't mean jack if you can't do anything with it.

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            1. Give The Todd Some Love
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 11 months ago

              Absolutely ludicrous to say they look more likely to get a second.

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              1. Trigg ⭐️
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                😆 What have Boro done to make you hate them?

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                1. Give The Todd Some Love
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 11 months ago

                  Honestly nothing, I really enjoyed watching them last year and was glad they got promoted. Just not sure paying Negredo six figures and buying Marten de Roon for £12 million is the best way to stay up.

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              2. Nomar
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 11 months ago

                Really?

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    2. BERGKOP
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I agree.

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  2. C_G
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Selling Kane for Ibra tonight, who else would you sell from this lot to get the extra 0.5:

    Redmond
    Mahrez
    Townsend
    Stones

    Currently thinking of dropping Mahrez

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    1. BERGKOP
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Tough.

      Between Stones and Mahrez.

      Short term, drop Stones. Otherwise Mahrez.

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    2. Scholes Balls
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Townsend!

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  3. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Adnan looks tasty. So tasty. I have always loved him.

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      He loves you too

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        😀

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        1. Kazza_
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Utd bias maybe

          Flatters to deceive imo

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    2. Blanka
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Not watching the game, better alternative to Gaston?

      I'm not a United fan but always thought he'd have been more established by now. Great talent.

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  4. BERGKOP
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Who scores more this GW?

    A) Vardy & Firmino
    B) Ibra & Lamela

    Cheers in advance

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    1. Pazzify
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      B definitely

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      1. BERGKOP
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers

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    2. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      B based on recent past.
      A based on the likelihood that the same guys don't score every week, and Leicester have an easy home game

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      1. BERGKOP
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        My dilemma 🙂

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        1. walkman666
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Go with Ibra. He scores and scores. His price will continue to rise. Join the Ibra train. You can always depart when it stalls.

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          1. BERGKOP
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 11 months ago

            True 🙂

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  5. Robert's Son
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Any pl live streaming site guys? My TV operator isnt showing sunderland boro match!

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    1. devils advocate
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Google first row sports

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      1. Robert's Son
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks! Need to see how januzaj is doing, lateriser is pretty exited!

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    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Get mobdro

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  6. Oooof
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    More impressed by Januzaj than Ramirez so far.

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  7. Woeisme
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone got a working tampermonkey script?

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    1. fusen
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      To do what? On which site? :p

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    2. Every Dog Has Its Day
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Yes

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      1. Every Dog Has Its Day
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Ah it was working yesterday but not today...

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        1. Every Dog Has Its Day
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 11 months ago

          Working again

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  8. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Good man Negrado! Keep the points coming

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  9. Give The Todd Some Love
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Sunderland look alright

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  10. Bullet Eder
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Every player in my mini leagues has Shaw and I have Valencia.

    Those 5 extra points cost me this week, do you think it's worth using my free transfer to align?

    Or should I stick with Valencia as a differential?

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    1. Trigg ⭐️
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Massive waste of a transfer.

      Shaw just got fouled. Valencia looked better going forward.

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    2. Podge
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Stick now, or maybe get both

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    3. Worzel Gummidge
      9 years, 11 months ago

      In a season Valencia will get more points IMO.

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    4. fitzy
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Valencia so much more likely to get points so far. Shaw won't get a penalty assist every week.

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    5. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Stick. Jayzus.

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    6. Bullet Eder
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks all.

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    7. Nomar
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      After my experience with Carroll this gw I would avoid injury prone players. It was only a matter of time with Carroll, O'Shea just injured again too. I suspect Shaw won't take long before he's Crocker again.

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      1. devils advocate
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Silly comment mate.

        He isn't injury prone, he got his leg broken in two places in a challenge.

        There's a difference between being injury prone and suffering bad luck.

        Sturridge and Wilshere are examples of being injury prone.

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  11. Cantona90
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Ramirez pushed out wide? Did he play behind the striker last time?

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    1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      He tucks inside often, as the full backs push up. You'll see that more at home tho

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  12. C_G
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Kane & Mahrez ---> Ibra & Manè?

    is Mane back next GW?

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  13. Clump
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Friend looks a bit suspect to me.
    Had a few roastings from Jan already.

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    1. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Too slow

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    2. Oooof
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Been thinking that.

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  14. Hybrid.power
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Is anyone else's team being saved by forwards and defenders? My midfield has been doing so bad. Eriksen, Townsend, Tadic and Hazard this week. Hazard was the only one to get attacking points, and that wasn't much! Gotta top benching Capoue 😛

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    1. Clump
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Sounds like my team.

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    2. Shifty
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      have 2 FTs and that's where i;m looking to spend them - lucky to have Ibra/Gray/Aguero so forward line is good for now

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  15. Shifty
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Looking for a Firmino replacement

    A) Barkely with that run of games coming up?
    B) Tadic with those stats and 2 decent home games in the next 3

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    1. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      A

      Everton fixtures are better. Soton has scored 1 goal so far despite Tadic good play.

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  16. THE Wild Rover
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Stat

    Sunderland have not won any the 27 games that Rodwell has started!

    Jonah

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    1. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Didn't Bale at Spurs have a similar stat at the start?

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      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Yep i definitely remember that, think it was when he still an LB.

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  17. El Patron
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Ozil looked good in his cameo. Might do Firmino-> Ozil, Vardy->Lukaku.
    No Ibra, I refuse -.-

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    1. El Patron
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Is it overkill to have both Barkley and Lukaku?

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      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Just don't have Barkley. Jammy footballer

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  18. Podge
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    All the way back 🙁

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  19. Jamie_GAWA
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Who's the better option

    Defoe (7m) or Benteke (7.4)

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    1. Mongreloid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      I'd go with Defoe for now. Proven and Benteke will need a few games to get up to speed

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    2. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Benteke

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  20. Mongreloid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    I fancy making 3 changes to this... I've got 2FT so is it worth -4?

    Foster
    Shaw - Valencia - Stone
    Haz - Alli - Tadic - Phillips
    Gray - Ibra- Kun(c)

    Subs: Jakupovic - Friend - De Roon - Smith

    Thinking Alli>Barkley, Stone>McAuley, De Roon>4.5m

    Anyone got a view on this? Is McAuley justified or shall I go Holgate in the hope he keeps his place? Barkley vs Bolasie?! De Roon change would be purely to avoid the price drop as I don't necessarily mind my 3rd sub being injured and on the bench...

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  21. The Generalator
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Eriksen for
    A sterling
    b Barkley

    ?

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      B

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    2. Worzel Gummidge
      9 years, 11 months ago

      A, easily. I am not buying the Barks love

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    3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Sterling

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  22. Tex
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    So do we think Love and Marc Wilson will be the 4.0 options that get regular games?

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    1. Scholes Balls
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      have them both on my bench, hopefully they will but no overly enthusiastic as both teams likely to have just a few clean sheets. Cant see them earning any points from going forward

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    2. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Doubt it considering their current display

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  23. Podge
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Good lord Middlesboro are awful

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    1. BERGKOP
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Sunderland are pressing well

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  24. Blanka
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Apologies if already asked.

    Does Donald Love have any place competition? Or is he a guaranteed 4mill defender?

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    1. Sylas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Billy Jones is potential competition imo.

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    2. Trigg ⭐️
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Sunderland defenders are being sold and getting injured. His place is safe IMO

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    3. Tex
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Billy Jones and Adam Matthews. But seems to be first choice right now.

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  25. RADOAFC
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Foster
    Stones VVD Shaw
    Delofeu Haz Townsend Tadi lamela
    Vardy Aguero

    Jaku/Friend/Amat/Gray

    Thinking Friend,Tadic and Vardy to Love, Redmond and Ibra for -4

    What you guys think, not having Ibra is stressing me out!

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  26. Smurf
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Any thoughts on Mirallas and his game time?

    I really want Barkley but only have 7.5m and his price rise has now put him out of reach.

    Mirallas seems to have started well but with Lukaku and Bolasie I'm unsure of his game time.

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  27. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Defoe now, but Tekkers when fit

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    1. I am 42
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      already on benteke ship

      im surprised a few did too

      look at the transfer in round

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      1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 11 months ago

        Need to see his fitness first. Certain possibility after the international break

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    2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      For Jamie above....

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  28. Fumi
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Didn't even know Pienaar was at Sunderland.

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    1. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Signed this week, quite recently.

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  29. Oooof
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    This Sunderland defence gets weaker and weaker if Kone and O'Shea are missing.

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  30. Dimen
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 11 months ago

    Townsend, keep or sell? Any mid priced mids to replace him?

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    1. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 11 months ago

      Give him next two games

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