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22 October 2016 1691 comments
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A hugely frustating Saturday comes to its conclusion as Liverpool entertain West Bromwich Albion at Anfield.

The Reds’ run of four straight wins was halted by a dogged Man United display on Monday evening, though on the positive side, Jurgen Klopp’s side chalked up a first clean sheet of the season ahead of some very kind looking fixtures.

Bearing in mind that the Baggies have a single clean sheet in seven, owners of the likes of Philippe Coutinho, Roberto Firmino, Sadio Mane and Adam Lallana will be optimistic of returns tonight. The latter returns to the starting line-up in Jurgen Klopp’s only change from the side that were frustrated by the Red Devils.

Four goals and two assists in five appearances makes Nacer Chadli the visitors’ danger man, whilst Ben Foster owners will be expecting a save point or two at least as he looks to repel the Reds’ attack.

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  1. Krul Runnings
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Upto 7k OR with Sterling and Kun left.

    Sterling points needed to keep me there. Can't say I'm confident tbh -_-

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    1. Olivier Bernards watch
      10 years, 3 days ago

      good work. What's your team out of interest?

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      1. Krul Runnings
        10 years, 3 days ago

        It's linked.

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        1. Golden Venture
          10 years, 3 days ago

          very similar to mine!

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  2. Olivier Bernards watch
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Bottomed:

    (1) tekkers + snodgrass to wilson and lallana sounds reasonable?

    (2) More generaly, who's the better pick from Austin and Wilson

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    1. George Costanza
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Yes.

      Austin, just

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  3. Liber
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Mane...
    I got Mane, but I am not very happy with his perfomances lately, despite his 12 points today. I'm not sure he's doing enough to justify 9.0 prize tag... I don't think he's playing particularly good. However as transfers are very precious it's hard to swap.

    Whats your opinion about Liverpool players?

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    1. Olivier Bernards watch
      10 years, 3 days ago

      thought he was excellent today, and expect him to continue scoring pretty well. maybe firmino offers better value, but it's very hard to call

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    2. Call Me Old Fashioned
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Stick with whichever one of Mane, Coutinho or Firmino you have. So tough to predict who will score highest from the three every week

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    3. Stokelona
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I think it's the tag, visually that's annoying. If he cost 8.9 it wouldn't seem so much. But compared to other similar priced players, if you think he will outscore Firmino, Hazard, Mahrez etc (and so far he has) then he's worth it. (I didn't watch the game today though, and have Firmino). Ultimately depends what you can do with the extra money for downgrading him. Thing is, owning a Liverpool asset kind of guarantees you regular points because you know they're going to dominate almost all their games

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  4. THE Wild Rover
    10 years, 3 days ago

    I wonder if Shano23 is still enjoying the joke πŸ˜‰

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/14298672

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    1. Zombie
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Nice prediction there. I am looking to replace Baines too - Holebas or Pieters, WR?

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      1. THE Wild Rover
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Well Pieters has the fixtures but Holebas has the set pieces and goal threat, so him imo

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        1. Zombie
          10 years, 3 days ago

          0.2 is a bit handy too πŸ˜‰

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          1. THE Wild Rover
            10 years, 3 days ago

            Indeedy

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    2. Cojiro
      10 years, 3 days ago

      #burn

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  5. how now brown cow
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Anyone pick me a Antonio replacement other than lallana? Or am I over thinking it?

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    1. Zombie
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Lallana fit and back?

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    2. JAC THE CAT
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I went Siggy

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    3. Olivier Bernards watch
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I think lallana is a real bargain this season, so I'd just go with him

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      1. George Costanza
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Is he not a bit inconsistent returns-wise? This is what puts me off and is making me lean toward bringing in good old James Milner instead of him. Thoughts?

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    4. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Kinda hard to look last him isn't it.

      What would be much better is to find funds for Cout imo. But it's not easy

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      1. how now brown cow
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Have coutinho too. Just love Liverpool mid this season.

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    5. Lecky Legs FC
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Shaquiri,Arnie,Tadic,Wijnaldum,Walcott are also good options.

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      1. how now brown cow
        10 years, 3 days ago

        THanks. Got wally, like tadic.

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    6. Pochecinno
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Chadli

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      1. JAC THE CAT
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Looks great after City

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        1. Pochecinno
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Had a couple of decent chances today as well.

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      2. how now brown cow
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Good option. Wish he was still at spurs....

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        1. Pochecinno
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Apparently Poch wanted him to stay but he wanted first team football which is fair enough. Better for us as an FPL option πŸ˜‰

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  6. Zombie
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Lads, the slump continues - down from 80K to 426K in 3 GWs.

    What changes would you make in this team? (2 FTs, 0.3 IBT, willing to take upto -8) -

    Heaton, Pickford
    Valencia, Mustafi, Baines(?), Evans (?), Amat (?)
    Sanchez, Sterling, Arnautovic (?), Snoddy (?), Capoue (?)
    Aguero, Lukaku, Benteke (?)

    ? are the players I want out but please feel free to suggest any changes!

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    1. JAC THE CAT
      10 years, 3 days ago

      You can get back in 3 weeks.

      Benteke, Snoddy and a defender out

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      1. Zombie
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Benteke for - Austin or Wilson or someone else?
        Baines for - Pieters/Holebas/Francis ?

        I want a Pool mid - but even after above two downgrades, I think I can get only Lallana

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        1. JAC THE CAT
          10 years, 3 days ago

          All sound good moves and Lallana is fine

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          1. Zombie
            10 years, 3 days ago

            Which between Austin/Wilson?
            Which one for Baines among those 3?

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            1. JAC THE CAT
              10 years, 3 days ago

              Wilson and Holebas IMO

              But you mentioned all good options

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    2. Olivier Bernards watch
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Benteke to Wilson, Snoddy to Walcott. Depending on injury news, might need to get a defender in for a hit. Maybe Baines to clyne?

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      1. Zombie
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Wally or Coutinho/Firmino/Lallana?

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    3. PvA
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I feel you. I was 80k in GW7 then dropped to 400k in 2 GWs (left to ponder over the international break). I'm on the up now though.

      Benteke - keep for sure
      Arnie - was an expensive punt but I would sell
      Snoddy - would sell also
      Capoue - keep as a 5th mid because you have other issues
      Evans - keep
      Amat - 4m bench player (keep)
      Baines - sell

      You have to prioritise now. You have 2 FTs which is good. I would do: Baines and Snod ➑ Clyne and ?

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      1. Zombie
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Interesting about Benteke - didn't watch him today. Looked threatening?

        What do you think about Lallana?

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  7. Cojiro
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Ugh, dropped from 2.5k to 5k. Wrong captain, again!

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    1. THE Wild Rover
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Cry me a river πŸ˜›

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      1. JAC THE CAT
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Beautiful

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      2. Cojiro
        10 years, 3 days ago

        πŸ˜‰

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  8. TorresMagic™
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    10 years, 3 days ago

    This weeks LMS shocker

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/996242/event/9

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    1. Zombie
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Oh boy

      What's the cutoff looking like, TM?

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    2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Austin might pull him through πŸ™‚

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    3. THE Wild Rover
      10 years, 3 days ago

      ?

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      1. THE Wild Rover
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Lol, missed the transfers πŸ˜€

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        1. Zombie
          10 years, 3 days ago

          also, he had already played his WC πŸ˜‰

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        2. Pochecinno
          10 years, 3 days ago

          He probably had enough like a certain someone last season πŸ˜‰

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          1. THE Wild Rover
            10 years, 3 days ago

            Haha, I quit to focus on UFPL, not because I'd had enough πŸ™‚

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            1. Pochecinno
              10 years, 3 days ago

              Oh yeah. I was bloody planning to play that this year!

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    4. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Such an easy mistake to avoid. Baffles me how people do it.

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      1. ONSIDE 9
        10 years, 3 days ago

        He had already played his wc, just shocking decisions I think.

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    5. Captain Blanks
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      10 years, 3 days ago

      Took me a second to figure it out. Looks like he forgot he'd already played his wc πŸ˜†

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    6. camarozz
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Jaysus how'd he manage that??

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    7. Whats the Huth
      10 years, 3 days ago

      -72?! Oh jeeze

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  9. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Horrible week. Massive red arrow. 65 with 5 to go including captain.

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    1. JAC THE CAT
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Unlucky dude

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    2. Whats the Huth
      10 years, 3 days ago

      ...... ok

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    3. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      65? You mean 10?

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    4. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Yeah crap score, goes hand in hand with your crap contribution to the site

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  10. Whats the Huth
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Just seen that Sterling is due a drop tonight.
    I have the exact money to do Sterling to Coutinho.

    My current front eight.
    Sanchez. Wally. Firmino. Sterling. Capoue.
    Deeney. Aguero. Benteke

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    1. JAC THE CAT
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Tricky one.

      I like it but not sure if I would do it tonight

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      1. Whats the Huth
        10 years, 3 days ago

        If I don't tonight. I can't afford it

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    2. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Sterling isn't droping tonight.

      You can't sell hI'm before tomorrow's game.

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      1. Whats the Huth
        10 years, 3 days ago

        He's on -93% now

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        1. Pino
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          10 years, 3 days ago

          He has been on 93% since 5 pm. I dont think he wil drop tonight.

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    3. Whats the Huth
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Could do Deeney or Benteke to Austin next week and with 2FT, and could do Sterling to Coutinho as well

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  11. MrMaverick
    10 years, 3 days ago

    coutinho saving the day, have him and firmino but looking to do son > mane too

    overkill?

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    1. JAC THE CAT
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Yes

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    2. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Yep.

      Although Son does need to go.

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    3. Pochecinno
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Probably not

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      1. Pochecinno
        10 years, 3 days ago

        ...overkill

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  12. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    10 years, 3 days ago

    Last Man Standing Update

    Safety score = 23
    Top score = 66
    LMS average = 34.37

    2 games + autosubs left.

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    1. tm245
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I think I've beaten it by 10-20 points every week besides the one where I fell out. Such a tough competition.

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        10 years, 3 days ago

        The tough part is 2017.

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        1. tm245
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Or gw2 for some of us.

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          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            10 years, 3 days ago

            Aguero(c), Gray + 9 others was enough πŸ˜›

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    2. Chucky
      10 years, 3 days ago

      9 points off the top...

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    3. white lightning
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I took a -16 hit this week & didn't think I'd survive. My net score after the hit is 29 with Aguero & Costa left. I need both to go large so here's hoping haha.

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        10 years, 3 days ago

        Decent chance you'll survive.

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    4. tambourineman
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Work to do tomorrow for my front three, another Mourinho special and I'm done for

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  13. Call Me Old Fashioned
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Grant, Pickford
    Walker, Kos, Coleman, Holebas, Amat
    Sanchez, Theo, Firm, Snod, Capoue
    Aguero Lukaku Deenet

    1FT, 0 in bank

    Time to remove Coleman?

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    1. Chucky
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Get Pieters.

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        10 years, 3 days ago

        It would be him or a Bournemouth lad

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    2. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Get rid of Snod first

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      1. Call Me Old Fashioned
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Cant really afford anyone better without downgrading elsewhere

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  14. Chucky
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Evans to Holebas for free?

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    1. GreennRed
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Yip

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    2. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      You've missed that train.

      Let Evans rot on the bench until GW12 onwards when their fix turn

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    3. JAC THE CAT
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Yes

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    4. Chucky
      10 years, 3 days ago

      cheers

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  15. Delhidynamo
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Son to Siggy is tempting..

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    1. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      SIGGY is a great player. And an FPL favourite of mine, (and lives just down the road from me haha)

      BUT

      Swansea are not the team they used to be, he has much worse teammates around him these days and his appeal is diminished now, for me anyway. I watch them a fair bit. And honestly, I would avoid until we start to see Swansea improve.

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      1. Delhidynamo
        10 years, 3 days ago

        True. We should know more next week

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    2. JAC THE CAT
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I have Siggy

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      1. Delhidynamo
        10 years, 3 days ago

        nice

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  16. Zebrahimović
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Wanna double up on Liverpool Mids for the next two fixtures and already have Firmino so

    Son --> A) Mane
    B) Cout

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    1. George Costanza
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Either or TBH

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  17. camarozz
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Worth losing sterling (regardless of how he does tomorrow) to double up with coutinho. Have firmino. Selling benteke for Austin but just can't get funds to upgrade snodgrass unless it's to lallana which probably isn't the desired double up...

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    1. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Selling him tonight before he plays tomorrow is suicide.

      City have excellent fixtures too.

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    2. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Don't lose Sterling, unless it's evident that he'll be rotated extensively. Think he'll get similar ppm as Couthino

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    3. Konstaapeli
      10 years, 3 days ago

      I'm keeping Sterling. It's always the same debate over 'X' pool mid after every GW. Next week it's Firmino or Lallana while Cout blanks.

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      1. oscardo
        10 years, 3 days ago

        this, pick your player or players its a lottery..

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  18. Ronnies
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Guys,

    What do we think of these 2 transfers for a -4 ?

    stones > pieters
    townsend > firmino

    Tnks

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    1. Delhidynamo
      10 years, 3 days ago

      nah

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    2. TLF
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      10 years, 3 days ago

      The moves look ok but wait a week instead of taking a hit

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  19. tm245
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Looking at Effective Ownership, only Aguero around 70% and Costa 60% with a huge impact. Sterling Stones DDG in the 20s.

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    1. CABAYE4
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Aguero at 70% is the best Aguero captainers are ever going to get!

      Time for a hatrick....

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      1. ONSIDE 9
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Would be great but I settle for one

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      2. tm245
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Yeah, the reverse is true as well -- I can watch him as a noncaptainer and still enjoy the points. Most weeks it is a rough time to not have the armband on him.

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    2. THE Wild Rover
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Costa is 100% getting a yellow tomorrow so he serves his ban in the cup, so will need a brace to do much damage

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      1. tm245
        10 years, 3 days ago

        That man's intentional YC is a RC for anyone else. Will probably punch DDG in the face.

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  20. GreennRed
    10 years, 3 days ago

    What chance of Mawson being nailed-on? Has scored a nice few goals albeit at a lower level.

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    1. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Nailed for now.

      Played well today.

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        10 years, 3 days ago

        http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/swansea-city-v-watford-player-12064484

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  21. Az
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    10 years, 3 days ago

    Shaqiri, Arnie or Chadli in for Antonio?

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    1. MrMaverick
      10 years, 3 days ago

      lallana

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      1. Az
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        10 years, 3 days ago

        Got him already

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    2. Delhidynamo
      10 years, 3 days ago

      1.Chadli

      2. Arnie

      Not considering Siggy?

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    3. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Llallana

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  22. Pompel
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    10 years, 3 days ago

    Need to get one of those Liverpool mids, Antonio gets axed.

    for 2 FT's:

    Antonio -> Couthino
    +
    Coleman ->
    A) Smith
    or
    B) Pieters

    Smith obviously got the attacking threat anf Cherries in fine form, but Stoke has tightened up and got the fixtures.
    Your thoughts?

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    1. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Woudnt get Pieters now. Feel like you've kinda missed that train.

      Smith is a solid long term pick. So him of the 2

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      1. TLF
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        10 years, 3 days ago

        Stoke still have a number of decent fixtures and are starting to have a run of form so Pieters is still an excellent pick IMO. Smith too though.

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        1. Pompel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Those were my thoughts as well. But might be more tempted by Smith due to apparant attacking threat. But can easily ssee more CS for Stoke in the next few before fixtures turn

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  23. Oh Mane Mane
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Best option between Matip & Clyne?

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    1. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Clyne if you have to but I would take Lovren for value and spend the rest elsewhere

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    2. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Lovren

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    3. TLF
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      10 years, 3 days ago

      Clyne

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  24. Delhidynamo
    10 years, 3 days ago

    anybody here who saw the Hull game?

    For all the talk about them being kak, the goals they conceded were worldies

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    1. GreennRed
      10 years, 3 days ago

      They still didn't defend them.

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  25. SpaceCadet
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Holebas no baps? Dam

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    1. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Shame I know

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  26. Twelve years a slave
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Do the clocks change in the UK tonight?

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    1. TorresMagic™
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      10 years, 3 days ago

      no

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    2. THE Wild Rover
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Next Sat night

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      1. Twelve years a slave
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Thx

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    3. Godot - Fashanu Zealand
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Next week

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    4. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Next week

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  27. SuperMario
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Boruc - Pickford
    Vertongen - Bellerin - Lovren - Pieters - Amat
    Sanchez - Walcott - Snoddy - Firminho - Fletcher
    Aguero - Deeney - Lukaku

    2 FT and 0 in the bank.. thinking I keep Deeney this weekend for Hull..

    Any suggestions welcomed??

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    1. SuperMario
      10 years, 3 days ago

      MOTD would want to hurry up

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    2. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Get rid of Snod but £0 ITB so save this week and then have a shake up.

      Deeney needs to go next week if he blanks (I have him too)

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  28. HurriKane
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Thoughts on this midfield?

    Sanchez Theo Firmino Coutinho Capoue

    Its like going with two Mids and two Strikers from Arsenal and Liverpool

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    1. Les Bleus
      10 years, 3 days ago

      If Capoue is a bench fodder, I'd downgrade him. If he's playing every week, I'd lose him anyway.

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    2. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      For balance I only want 3 Mids from those 2 teams hence I still have Sterling.

      Could be gold though

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    3. George Costanza
      10 years, 3 days ago

      gtg apart from Capoue

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  29. George Costanza
    10 years, 3 days ago

    Who for FT next week from:

    A. Austin
    B. Milner
    C. Lallana
    D. Chadli
    E. Arnie
    F. Sigurdsson

    Snoddie and Barrow need booting out

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  30. Arteta
    10 years, 3 days ago

    In the top 75k for the first time this season. Nothing special around these parts but it makes me happy after 1.7m rank at the start of the season.

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      10 years, 3 days ago

      Well done πŸ™‚

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      1. Arteta
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Thanks TM! πŸ™‚

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    2. Krul Runnings
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Congrats.

      Keep it going .

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      1. Arteta
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Thanks Daniel! You're killing it this season. Could easily finish in top 1k. πŸ™‚

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        1. Krul Runnings
          10 years, 3 days ago

          Fingers crossed Mesut.

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    3. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 3 days ago

      Good work! Giving us strugglers some hope πŸ™‚

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      1. Arteta
        10 years, 3 days ago

        Cheers Pompel. You'll catch me before you know it! πŸ˜›

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