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6 November 2016 2793 comments
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A busy Sunday comes to its conclusion as Leicester City host West Bromwich Albion at the King Power.

The Foxes are seeking a fourth clean sheet in six at the King Power this time around but will need to do so without the services of Kasper Schmeichel, who is ruled out with a fractured hand.

Both Robert Huth and Danny Simpson walk the Suspension Tightrope for this one, though many will be taking the chance to scout Christian Fuchs as the schedules smiles kindly on the Foxes.

With Riyad Mahrez and Jamie Vardy devoid of form, Islam Slimani – with 20 points in three home fixtures – and Ahmed Musa, who has scored in each of the last two, have the chance to stake a claim as differentials to consider up top. Vardy’s 9% owners are left further frustrated by Claudio Ranieri’s decison to drop him to the bench today.

West Brom, meanwhile, are devoid of talisman Nacer Chadli, who underwent minor knee surgery last week. Given that the Belgian has played a part in 75% of his side’s goals since arriving from Spurs, another shut-out could be on the cards for the champions.

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  1. Aston-villain
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    It seems everyone got points. Not many real winners this Gw.

    1. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      True but I didn't look like that last night

    2. Elijah's Wood
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Think Liverpool saved a lot of managers

      1. Mr Chelski
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Yep Liverpool defo boosted my overall points with Cout & Firm

        1. Aston-villain
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Yep.I was on like 25 last night, saved by firmino and mane

    3. Shultan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      4 high scoring liv midfielders saved a lot of teams!
      Plus ibra in dead teams increased the average

  2. Art Vandelay
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    As you can see, I have some issues at the back 😆

    Pickford Mandanda
    Clyne Amat* Holebas* Walker* Smith*
    Hazard Coutinho Sanchez Allen DeRoon
    Kun Lukaku Austin

    I had plannned to do Smith to Alonso but then Walker and Holebas happened...

    Should I go ahead and cross my fingers for Walker or perhaps do DeRoon to someone < 6.4 and play AOA?

    Many thanks

  3. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    A) Kun + Capoue
    B) Costa + Hazard

    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      lol? B

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Going without Kun is frowned upon in these parts

    2. Ephurion
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      That's basicly Kun + 2 points (or bench) vs Costa + Hazard these days ^^

      So B)

  4. Elijah's Wood
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Bottomed, just done 3 transfers (-4), how does it look for the inevitable future? Not happy having to do my transfers so early, could backfire with international injuries.

    Heaton
    Bellerin PVA Evans
    Sanchez Hazard Firmino Coutinho Allen
    Aguero Austin

    Pickford Clyne Anichibi Amat

  5. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Pedro or Lallana? Got Mane and Haz

    1. Shultan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Lallana! I think the sunderland game at home is going to be another goalfest

    2. JIM BOB
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      P if we knew he was nailed. Willian a worry

  6. JIM BOB
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    Along with Leicester, Man Utd & Arsenal have a GREAT run of fixtures after the next Gameweek.

    Preferred punt here for a draft league?

    A.) Wilson -----> Rooney
    B.) Wilson ------> Slimani
    C.) Arnie -------> Ramsey

    1. Unbowed Unbent N'Golo
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Tough man, I don't really like any of them. Got Slimani in my draft and he frustrates.

      Ramsey with a gun to my head.

      1. JIM BOB
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Ta. Wilson has tough fixtures is the problem....

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      WAYNE FREAKIN ROONEY?! Mate are you drunk?

      1. JIM BOB
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Back playing no 10, two assists today and great fixtures.

  7. Danstoke82
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 5 months ago

    With Holebas suspended I only have two playing defenders of Lovren is fit.

    Do I play Amat or sell him for an overall -8 to get a playing defender?

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Get a playing defender

      1. Danstoke82
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        For a -8?

        Have 0.0ITB so would most likely have to swap Amat to Kingsley or sell Holebas.

        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Just count it as it's own individual hit. It will only cost you 2 points really as you'd be 2 points down if you have a missing player anyway/

          1. Danstoke82
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Would I swap out Holebas then? I have nothing ITB so Amat could only become Kingsley

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Depends on the replacement and how often you would use them.

      1. Danstoke82
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Not sure on who replacement would be. I'd most prob have to sell Holebas

    3. JIM BOB
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 5 months ago

      Lovren had a virus, he'll be reet.

    4. MTPockets
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Problem is (my case) Smith/Holebas only out for 1 week and I'd like to keep them.
        Upgrading Amat uses up funds to either 1) stick more expensive replacement back on bench later or 2) force another defender transfer later.

        1. Danstoke82
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Will you play Amat then and hope he features?

          1. MTPockets
              9 years, 5 months ago

              Yep looks that way.

      • arndff
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        A) Antonio Austin > 4.3 mid COSTA
        B) Antonio Koscielny > HAZARD 4.3 def
        C) sth else

        My current line-up is:
        Grant Pickford
        Vertonhen Koscielny Lovren Fuchs Amat
        Sanchez Firmino Antonio Capoue Allen
        Lukaku Costa Aguero

      • Pompel
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Weighing up on Walcott or Sanchez out for Hazard;
        Is Sanchez at risk of being rested after internationals for GW12?
        With Couthino also in team, could risk two big hitting mids with limited minutes for GW12.

        1. brianutd-why always we? 20
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Wally more likely to be rotated or subbed off, keep Sanchez

          1. Pompel
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Fair point, I was justernational beal t thinking about after international break specifically.
            The other biggie ofc is that shipping Sanchez instead of Walcott allows upgrading Allen to Firmino...

        2. Ziegler1988
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          I'd be surprised if Sanchez was rested. We struggled against Soton when he was rested in Sept and it's ManU away where we haven't won in the league since 2006

          1. Pompel
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Depends really how close his return is. Early kick-off Saturday as well.

            1. Ziegler1988
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              He'll arrive back in the UK on Thursday. He started an early kickoff last season after internationals

      • NestorC
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 5 months ago

        Do you think its time for 3-5-2?

        1. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Not for me.

          1. NestorC
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            I am completely lost, evry transfer I made just make it worse

        2. JAC THE CAT
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Just can't find a decent 3rd forward for the bench.

          Plenty on 5th midfielders for the bench.

          1. Flynny
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Anichebe?

        3. MTPockets
            9 years, 5 months ago

            I think hypothetical best team right now is probably 3-5-2 but personally would cost too many hits to achieve, and backwards looking. So no.

        4. Ruffio
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 5 months ago

          Evening all
          Terrible week for me
          Team currently

          Foster (pick)
          Holebas. Kingsley. Walker. Pieters. Friend
          Sanchez. Hazard. Friminho. Allen. Hojberg
          Kaku. Aguero. Bony.

          Already kneejerked hazard in this week (last night) for sterling 0.2 team value win.

          Should I be making more moves and taking hits?
          Really want second Liverpool mid. Not sure if i need Arsenal cover?
          And want better or worse 3rd striker,
          Something like
          Sanchez. Hojberg. Bony.
          To
          Coutinho. Walcott. Gray.?
          Thanks.

        5. Jay_
            9 years, 5 months ago

            Going Thailand tomorrow for 10 nights (Yes, I purposely booked for international break 😀
            Back next Friday and don't really want to be worrying about FPL out there

            Got no bench and a load of Latino studs heading home for international duty

            ------------------------Foster----------------------------
            -------------Stones Morgan Pieters-----------------
            Sanchez Hazard Firmino Coutinho Redmond
            -------------------Aguero Lukaku----------------------
            ----------------------------------------------------------------
            Pickford Keane(!) Holebas(!) Amat(!) 1ft, 0.0itb

            A) Redmond to Snodgrass (.5 change will be vital to sort bench, leaves Amat > Nyom eg. In range, do now and take a hit with the .5 if needed when back of holiday)
            B) Keane to Anichibe
            C) Somethimg else? (Don't want to sell Holebas)
            D) Just leave it for now, sort out next Friday
            E) Redmond & Stones > Can & Alonso -4 (Crazy with no bench but if I had a bench I'd do it)

            * I want Alonso but that's obviously out of the question for now, if that matters

            1. JIM BOB
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 5 months ago

              D. Lots can change!

              Did you really book for an international break? Amazing dedication 🙂

              1. Jay_
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  It was more out of not missing a West Ham game after forking out for a season ticket lol

                  1. JIM BOB
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    Ah I see! Fair play. Some tough fixtures coming up ! :/

              2. KingNidge
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                D mate

                Go away enjoy get the head showered and then see how you stand

                1. Jay_
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    Cheers mate 🙂

              3. Stimps
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Which midfield would you prefer?

                A) Hazard, Sanchez, Firmino, Gundogan, Allen

                B) Hazard, Coutinho, Firmino, Walcott, Allen

                1. My Name Is Prince
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  B

                2. brianutd-why always we? 20
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  B

                3. Mulla
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  B for me

                4. Coaly
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  A

              4. Too Mane Men
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Slimani, Lukaku, Bony or Vokes for next two/three GWs?

                1. Cruz88
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  In the same predicament - though my budget doesn't stretch to Lukaku so am looking at Defoe to. Just not keen on these guys who have only been scoring pens recently, Defoe needs a better team behind him I reckon. Vokes is interesting and have been considering him myself, seems to be in good form

                  1. Too Mane Men
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    I want Kane but he's crazy expensive. Vokes is interesting but I'm worried about Grey/Barnes coming back into the side and hurting his output, plus Burnley aren't great at scoring goals. Might have to punt on Lukaku for the Swansea home fixture. Slimani looks good but Vardy and Musa and Champs league worry me greatly. Such a headache!

                    1. Too Mane Men
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 11 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      Maybe Bony is the answer!?!?

                      1. Cruz88
                        • 10 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Do you really want to trust Bony? 🙂

                        1. Too Mane Men
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 11 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Certainly not. Gone with Lukaku. Swansea at home should pay for the hit or more 🙂

                          1. Cruz88
                            • 10 Years
                            9 years, 5 months ago

                            Good luck! I went for Vokes as realised I couldn't afford Defoe either.

              5. Sims
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Mannone foster

                Holebas Amat Kingsley Huth Pieters (.3 ITB)

                Thinking Mannone & Amat > Pickford & 4.7 Def.

                Worth a hit?

                1. Lyonnais
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  not worth it imo.

              6. Mulla
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 5 months ago

                Didn't see the Ars-Spurs match can anyone tell me is it worth keeping Sanchez over Wally ?
                Will be to get Hazard in, obviously Sanchez going frees up funds for squad upgrades for busy Xmas period ahead..but ideally would rather keep him
                Thanks

                1. Niemi
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  Is it too knee jerky to bring in Coutinho for a hit now? Might have limited minutes next GW, right?

                  1. Niemi
                    • 11 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    ops fail

                2. Je suis le chat
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  I'd bin both for Hazard and Liv mid. Ars are already keeping with their bad Nov form.

                  1. Mulla
                    • 13 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    Sorry my team is..
                    Pick. Jaku.
                    Holebas* Lovren. Amat. Evans. Bellerin.
                    Sanchez. Firmino. Wally. Allen .Capoue.
                    Kun. Lukaku. Austin .

                    If I lose Sanchez I can get afford to get Alonso and maybe Costa, just feel uneasy about losing him, they have 3 nice fixtures coming up though..

                3. MTPockets
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    I sold walcott, but may prove wrong.

                4. Swan - Villa Proud
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  46 pts after hits. Bye bye LMS 🙁

                  1. KingNidge
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    I reckon you will be through
                    Out of the cup though

                  2. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    Think you will be ok

                5. Lyonnais
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 5 months ago

                  A) Koscielny + Sterling ---> Nyom + Hazard -4, keep Sanchez
                  B) Sterling + Sanchez ---> Hazard + Coutinho -4, no Arsenal

                  1. Sims
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    B out of those 2. Coutinho essential

                    Could u help me too (3 posts up)

                  2. MTPockets
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      a

                  3. Ziegler1988
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 5 months ago

                    England's 25-man squad to face Scotland and Spain: Forster (Southampton), Hart (Torino), Heaton (Burnley); Bertrand (Southampton), Cahill (Chelsea), Clyne (Liverpool), Jagielka (Everton), Keane (Burnley), Rose (Tottenham), Stones (Man City), Walker (Tottenham); Dier (Tottenham), Drinkwater (Leicester), Henderson (Liverpool), Wilshere (Bournemouth), Lallana (Liverpool), Lingard (Man Utd), Rooney (Man Utd), Sterling (Man City), Townsend (Crystal Palace); Walcott (Arsenal), Kane (Tottenham), Rashford (Man Utd), Sturridge (Liverpool), Vardy (Leicester).

                    1. Art Vandelay
                      • 15 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      Walker to be removed, I presume.

                    2. Lyonnais
                      • 13 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      when did they announce it?

                      Walker not injured then as he's still in the squad?

                      1. Art Vandelay
                        • 15 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        See above. My luck he will be fit so flag will reset his positive transfer balance and he will fall quicker

                    3. Pochecinno
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      Wow look at those forwards. Vardy and Sturridge not in their first XI. Kane hasn't played for two months before today. Rashford doesn't play up-front for his club. That's if he plays at all.

                    4. Jay_
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Lingard, Rooney and Wilshire ahead of Antonio

                        1. JIM BOB
                          • 9 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Ridiculous

                        2. Pochecinno
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          The England squad is always full of Arsenal/United/Liverpool favourites. You really have to put yourself out there to be picked ahead of a player from one of those teams.

                        3. JIM BOB
                          • 9 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Cresswell should be in there as well

                        4. Dino
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          If it wasn't for poor form Antonio would have no formal at all

                      • Danstoke82
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Jagielka?!

                    5. afcbbbb
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      Grant Heaton
                      Alonso Fuchs Smith Martina Holebas
                      Hazard Ozil Firmino Coutinho Redmond
                      Benteke Lukaku Wilson

                      3 of my defenders are out next gameweek
                      Wilson is injured
                      Benteke and Ozil and Redmond are useless

                      Wc time??
                      Cheers

                      1. Aston-villain
                        • 10 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Wc this lot then use ur wildcard.

                        1. afcbbbb
                          • 9 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          What??

                      2. diesel001
                        • 9 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Yes:

                        Grant - Heaton
                        Alonso - Fuchs - Smith - Holebas - Koscielny
                        Hazard - Coutinho - Walcott - De Bruyne - 'Whoever is affordable'
                        Lukaku - Costa - Austin

                    6. Sharpe Shuffle
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 5 months ago

                      Seems like everyone is getting Hazard now. I can't help but think those getting him in now have missed out on the major hauls and he will regress over the next few

                      1. Epic Fail
                        • 15 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Why this particular GW to suddenly regress though?

                        1. Sharpe Shuffle
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Over the next few. Just a gut feeling. Middlesbrough are looking pretty solid and then the fixtures get tougher

                        2. Worzel Gummidge
                            9 years, 5 months ago

                            Because he isn't getting him in.

                        3. Partick Bateman
                          • 9 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          They seem to growing in confidence and, like Liverpool, are going to be tough to stop at home.

                        4. Hybrid.power
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Unless he gets injured on international duty, nothing will stop this kind of form. Chelsea have hit a sweet spot right now.

                          1. Sharpe Shuffle
                            • 10 Years
                            9 years, 5 months ago

                            It's hard to imagine I know

                        5. Aston-villain
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          That makes no sense based on the way he got here.

                        6. Pompel
                          • 12 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Chelsea can do damage against Middlesbrough away, but next two surely are difficult. But you'll want him from GW15, before which his price will be 10.5 or more

                          1. Sharpe Shuffle
                            • 10 Years
                            9 years, 5 months ago

                            Yep, agreed he will be more expensive when the fixtures turn in GW15

                        7. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                          • 16 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Conte has set the team up around him... his returns could slow down, but only if Chelsea change their formation, or he picks up an injury.

                          1. Sharpe Shuffle
                            • 10 Years
                            9 years, 5 months ago

                            They're not going to keep pasting teams 4 and 5 nil over the next 4 games (IMO)

                      2. Partick Bateman
                        • 9 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Well, 44 all out, less than half of last GW.
                        Pieters only available regular in defence.
                        Hits required.

                        Sanchez to Hazard
                        Smith to Alonso (-4)
                        ?

                      3. Hybrid.power
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 16 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        I'm so ashamed of my team right now. I've dropped like a stone, even rivals in work who don't even follow football are ahead of me. I've brought shame upon my family. And now I have two weeks to fester. This game will be the death of me.

                        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                          • 16 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          I hate the two week breaks, it totally interrupts the flow of FPL. They should just have all the internationals in the summer & stop interrupting the real football 🙁

                          1. Dino
                            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                            • 16 Years
                            9 years, 5 months ago

                            Just scrap international football altogether!

                        2. Epic Fail
                          • 15 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          You have brought such shame upon your family young Samurai. You know what you have to do.

                      4. TorresMagic™
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 16 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Autosubs done.

                        1. FPL Virgin
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 9 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Ha.

                          Torres you are a star. Thank you, good sir.

                        2. Hurricane Gilbert
                          • 10 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Holebas you greek god love to see your -2 points

                      5. Gareth nose
                        • 9 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Hi guys who do you think will be a better option?

                        Alan or Snodgrass?

                        1. ONSIDE 9
                          • 12 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          I've just got snod in, set pieces swing it for me.

                        2. Dino
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 16 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          Snodgrass by a mile

                      6. Redkev1892
                        • 10 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Any advice folks?
                        Foster Pickford
                        Holebas (suspended) Walker Smith (suspended) Pieters Amat
                        Firmino Walcott Sanchez Sigurdsson Capoue
                        Aguero Lukaku Deeney

                        2FT & £0 ITB

                      7. AdamB
                        • 9 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Foster
                        Walker / Williams / Shaw
                        KDB / Allen / Sanchez / Coutinho
                        Aguero / Lukaku / Vokes

                        (Jaku/Collins/Carrick/Amat)

                        How could I fit in Hazard ? I'm tempted by the prospect of sacrifying Aguero for a less expensive striker then Carrick -> Hazard and move to 3-5-2.

                        1. AdamB
                          • 9 Years
                          9 years, 5 months ago

                          £0.0 itb, 1 FT.

                      8. Total Foot 5
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Coutinho: best wayu to bring him in w ft

                        1 wait for 2 Brasil games in case injury + potential .1-,2 peice upticks
                        2 get him now ahead of his price uptick tonight

                      9. FPL Virgin
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • 9 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Does anyone know when the automatic substitutions will happen, please?

                      10. DrunkPhilosophy
                        • 11 Years
                        9 years, 5 months ago

                        Heaton Pickford
                        Bellerin Holebas Amat Kelly Evans
                        Sanchez Lallana Firmino Allen De Roon
                        Aguero Lukaku Benteke
                        1 FT

                        Have exact money for:
                        Bellerin + Lallana --> Alonso + Hazard(-4)

                        Do it now or wait after the internationals and miss out on Chelsea defenders?