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This evening we reveal the managers who have made it through to the third round of the 13th instalment of our open to all Fantasy Premier League cup competition.

For this latest contest there are more than £1,000 worth of prizes for UK based entrants courtesy of our partner FanDuel, as well as £350 in Amazon vouchers to the top three managers at the end of the competition.

Last year’s winner I Casillas Winning’s score of 55 saw him overcome Tufs to set up a round three clash with Allezlechef. Just 10,000 places separates this pair in the overall rankings.

Gribude is another former cup holder to make it through. He beat Allgonepozzo in round two and faces Cok3y5murf next.

Ex-champ MCH also progresses, after seeing off Shem Bayley. He takes on community regular Rhinos in round three.

Sadly, the second round marked the end of the road for another former winner, Ninja Fit Saints, who was beaten 70-49 by Jurgen.

The highest scoring manager of the round and recipient of a £30 FanDuel credit was DaJoeyNdo Show, whose sensational score of 95 left Stoorey’s tally of 40 for dust and saw him leap from 346,603rd in the overall rankings to 57,443rd.

Teguh D Puncak, who he faces next, is unlikely to be worried though as he sits more than 50,000 places higher within the top 5,000.

The four next high scoring managers, who all receive a £10 FanDuel credit, were Captainjpd, Delt_eple, DJDave1979 and Dogba.

Andy85wsm, the competition’s only Scoutcast representative to make it past the first round, marches on. He beat Lardy to set up a third round tie with Anuliz.

Two other members of our moderator and contributor team also make it through. Greenwindmill will face Archie, while Stilicho squares up to lowlifegimpe in round three.

Other notable match ups in the next round include Lateriser12’s encounter with The TinMan, Parm’s tie with TommyJ and What the Fans Say community article writer Bolivian Seaman’s clash with Al Fresco.

The manager to draw the short straw in round three is 433,854 ranked Malvern Angells. He faces Dempele, who at 177th is the highest placed manager remaining in the tournament.

The second round results can be found via this link, while the full third round draw can be found here.

Good luck to those still involved and if you would like more information on the schedule and prizes click this link.

FanDuel are kindly sponsoring this season’s FFS Cup Competitions.

You can register for a free account at FanDuel via this link.

When you sign up, enter the promo code “SCOUT” and FanDuel will refund your first paid entry fee, up to £10, as free entry credit if you miss out on a cash prize.

J0E Podcaster and writer. Tweets stats and stuff via @FFScout_Joe Follow them on Twitter

  1. Jimmers
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 19 days ago

    2 of these 4 games to be affected by the EFL Cup Final on 25th February - DGW's beckon

    Hull v Burnley
    Leicester v Liverpool
    Man City v Man Utd
    Southampton v Arsenal

    1. Morph - Unbelievable Geoff
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      I was just about to look that up, thanks.

    2. BadgersBoys
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      City v Utd
      Saints v Arsenal

      That would be great..

    3. The Fantastic Mr Fox
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      3rd and 4th would be best from FPL point of view

    4. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      All close games though. Probably Liverpool the most attractive right now out of them

    5. Dino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Hull is the one we want for a dbl gw I reckon

  2. Scoutcast Yays, Nays and Maybes
    FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 19 days ago

    I'm a big fan of the scoutcast, but does anyone else find it frustrating that they rarely give a straight yes-or-no answer to the community questions.

    Jonty brilliantly spotted the prevailing theme in the community questions: does a lower priced player compensate for the more expensive teammate?

    Can Pedro allow you to go Hazard-less?
    Can Fer allow you to go Siggy-less?
    And the big one ... can Walcott allow you to go Sanchez-less?

    Does anyone feel like we got a straight answer to these big questions last night? I still don't know what to do.

    The guys kind of go off on a tangent and make some great points, but we never really get a firm answer to the question ... and before you know it we have to move onto the next question.

    I think this problem is easily fixed ... ask the scoutcast guys to begin their answers with a simple "yes or no".

    Jonty sometimes says "I just want to go back to the original question because we never really answered it" but most of the time we're left hanging.

    I think an already great show would be made brilliant if Jonty or whoever could be a bit more Paxman and make sure every question gets some kind of decision.

    Yes, some decisions will leave the scoutcast guys with egg on their face, but people will understand and they will Respect the panel for coming down on one side of the fence or the other.

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      4th paragraph should read *does anyone feel like we never got a straight answer ...

    2. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      A lot of the time there is no definitive answer they are there to bounce ideas off each other and discuss the questions posed by the community.. If we knew all the answers there would be no need for a scoutcast at all

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Big ones like "can Walcott compensate for Sanchez" ... the people are crying out for a firm answer. It's criminal that the scoutcast left that one up in the air. All it needed was a quick round robin and a yes or no answer from each.

        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Well what has one really got to do with the other? They are individual picks that score individual points and are priced very differently.

        2. ᶠᶦˡᵗʰʸLucre $$$
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          There is no definitive answer though - it's not a quiz question.

        3. Gotta Wijnaldum points
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Crikey

        4. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          How can we or they possibly no if he can or not.. the lads have a good knowledge of the game but i think they draw the line at fortune telling.. Walcott offers pretty good value at his price range but you would think Alexis would blow him away in terms of points but for more money.. make your own mind up what you would do with the extra money saved and then ask yourself the question

          1. Sauzée
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            I thought Mark was a cyborg sent from the future to ensure the success of the FFS community?

          2. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            I'm not asking the guys to be mystic meg. I think you're missing my point.

            Most of the time, the guys have a straight answer to the question. They just never get round to stating it.

            They debate, discuss and look at it from other angles ... and then at the end forget to say where they stand. It just needs someone to pin them down and get their answer on record.

            1. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Ah right you may have a point there to an extent but tbf if we have the scouts nailing there colours to the mast and declaring a move or a player an absolute stonewall certainty for example to put your mind at rest then he flops.. no doubt you will have another essay going ballistic at how the experts told you to go out and do this and all you got was a blank and a red arrow lol

              1. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                Ha. I personally wouldn't do that.

                All I'm really saying is "don't forget to state where you stand on things".

                If they don't have the answer, then fine. But a lot of the time they do and they never quite get round to saying it because they digress.

                It just needs someone to be tad disciplined, maybe do a quick follow up and get the answers on record when the guys have made a decision.

        5. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Easier to have a Hot Topic on it. 🙂

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Yes please DM

            1. FPL Virgin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              TM even.

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                There is one.

                1. FPL Virgin
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 19 days ago

                  What's your take on this TM?

                  It looks like I'm having a rant and don't like the scoutcast but I'm not and I do!

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 16 Years
                    9 years, 19 days ago

                    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/comment/14539979

                    Captaincy also needs to be factored in.

        6. Gotta Wijnaldum points
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Are you actually serious or just trolling? Get a life pal

        7. Sconeaus - The Dude Abides
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          They're there to assist n give opinions, not sure they want to say yes definitely do this or that.

          There will be a certain element of folk who will blame the scoutcast when things don't go there way, and get the hump.

          I took from other night that walcott wouldn't keep pace w Sanchez, but big price difference so keep if have. His stats are way down though, so don't buy observe for now.

          I've already brought in siggy last week from scoutcast advice n did excellent! Kane this week for a hit as captain.

    3. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      I'm not a fan of the scoutcast, so don't listen. Just want to point out... Nuance. In fpl, like life, there is rarely a yes or no answer.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Great point. But these guys are the experts. They should be able to come to the correct decision, on balance. Or not. Even if you end up being wrong, at least make it clear where you stand.

        I think a lot if the time the guys do have a position and a solid point of view, they just never get round to stating their conclusion out loud.

        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          The game is no different from gambling dressed up. We just use points instead of dollars. If there were experts that had right and wrong answers to these questions we'd all be making millions over at paddy power.

        2. Demí
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          They aren't experts though, they're just fpl players like u and i. Being on the scoutcast, or being involved in the running of a site doesn't make them experts does it? They're just fortunate enough to be in that position of authority. But you should lower your demands/expectations. And just think of them as people with a strong passion for fpl just like u. They can only give their opinions, right or wrong.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            That's my point. Sometimes they forget to make clear what their opinion is because the discussion gets away from them.

            They have an opinion - they are (through no fault of their own) just forgetting to state it out loud.

            A simple tweak to the format will fix this.

            Does that make sense?

            I know this sounds like an attack, but it's not. I think most people on here know I love the scoutcast.

    4. Licious Lizard
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      I know I have been defending these guys a lot lately, but I have to say I think you are being a bit hard on them.

      First of all I think they are answering a decent amount of the questions pretty clearly. But... Of course they can't/won't give a yes or no answer to every questions because 1) Usually these questions can't be answered straight without taking 10 other questions into account. You can't answer if Theo can "cover" for Sanchez without discussing each of those player's stats, what you can use the funds for, if other premium players are better to invest in etc. etc. etc. 2) The guys are getting a lot of stick no matter what they do. If they answer questions yes/no people will blame them for not taking every aspect of the questions into consideration. Or even blame them for giving the wrong advice... If they are answering questions "vaguely", people will blame them for that. 3) The Scoutcast, as I see it, isn't meant to be some godly guidebook with clear cut guidelines or directions on how to manage your team. It is meant as a discussion between passionate FPL managers trying to give sense of community along with decent general tips/views on what's going on in the FPL world. I am watching the scoutcast because I enjoy the banter and comradely just as much as I watch it for the actual help on my team. They are not oracles... Just look at their ORs from time to time 😉 Regular guys with families, jobs and whatnot doing a huge amount of work for this community and to keep it running.

      I am not saying that you/we can't give suggestions on how to improve the scoutcast/articles/site, but I still think we have to stop holding them to these unrealistic standards.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        I totally get that and I am coming at this as one of the biggest fans of the scoutcast. It really is one of the highlights of my week.

        What is annoying me is this:

        1) A huge question like "Walcott or Sanchez" deserves a conclusion - just take an educated guess with lots of caveats and pick a side. If it's wrong, we will understand.

        2) Most of the time the guys do pick a side ... they just never state it clearly because the discussion gets away from them.

        Point 2 above is the biggest annoyance for me and the most easily fixed. It just needs the original question to be briefly repeated before moving onto the next question.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Easier to look at their FPL team. I have Sanchez and hope he does a lot better than Walcott to make up for the money I don't have in defence. If the answer was Walcott, then more people would have Walcott.

          1. Licious Lizard
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Exactly my point.

        2. Licious Lizard
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          I kind of understand what you are saying. But isn't the fact that XX on the scoutcast has gone with Theo instead of Sanchez an indication that this person believes Theo to be better value?

          I for one think they are very good at trying to relate to questions that don't necessarily are "relevant" to them, which is why I believe their answers can sometimes become a bit "vague" ... Also because most questions, as I mentioned, isn't possible to answer with a straight yes/no answer.

      2. Sconeaus - The Dude Abides
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Here, here - excellently put n much better than I tried to put! I concur with all of above and thoroughly enjoy the cast and the banter too.

        Lads doing great work keep it up

    5. tm245
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      The whole thing started as two guys arguing about FPL, not sure it needs to be more than that -- it's a talk show, not a forecast.

      1. Demí
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Spot on

    6. Kanga roo
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Because it's your job as a fellow punter to make your own decisions, they are no different. They do a great job of presenting information for you to consider and then final decision is up to you. Those who follow blindly are bound to fail.

      1. Ibracadabra
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Spot on.

        I figured I'll weigh in here though I don't listen to the Scoutcast, I am a community member who is sometimes active in certain weeks/months. I ran a FPL blog for over 5 years (Never Captain Nicky Butt, RIP, 2008-2013). What Mark and the FFScout team have done has set the bar for FPL analysis worldwide, and as Jackyboy says they are presenting information that is up to you to consider and make the final decision.

        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Wow blast from the past. That blog was gold mate. Think it was the first fpl related site I found.

        2. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          I agree with you and perhaps I'm wording it poorly.

          I just feel like sometimes the guys have a firm point of view but, for one reason of another, don't state it on the show.

          All it needs is a Jonty or someone to say at the end of each question: "So are we all agreed that player X is a better option than player Y"

          If there is uncertainty that player X is better than player Y then that's fine. No problem.

          But sometimes they will think X is better than Y but never get round to articulating it.

          It's just a simple oversight that could be fixed by a tweak to the format.

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            When X is agreed by all 3/4 on the scoutcast to be better than Y, it's pretty obvious. If there is a split then you don't get the same reaction. It's like asking Alonso or Azpi, chances are Alonso will be the pick for all atm and obvious.

          2. tm370
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            I think you after something that no sensible pundit would give, because it cant be given in alot of cases. Sometimes there are clear answers, and sometimes there are not. You can't answer whether Theo is worth 3 ish less points than Sanchez, because we don't how the extra money will be spent. Sanchez will outscore Theo, but maybe the money will allow for Alonso and Kosc, who will outscore the respective options at a similar price. There is no a definitive answer.

            Why do you need an answer? Why can't you take opinions and make your own decision? Why even play the game if you want someone else to give you the answer?

            It would be wrong to talk of certainty about a highly subjective point that obviously splits the speakers and many on here.

            1. tm370
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              *At a cheaper price (i.e 4.5s).

              1. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                You talk a lot of sense and I agree. I fear I've come across as a nutter who doesn't like the scoutcast when nothing could be further than the truth.

                All I was trying to say is that sometimes there is certainty from the guys but they forget to make it be known and the audience is left wondering and not quite sure.

                Like on Question Time. Dimbleby repeats the audience members question to get an answer. Something like that would fix the problem. It's more of an oversight than anything else.

    7. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      I love getting feedback like this. Worst thing is getting ignored as a journalist.

      Agree with many points raised here in that often there really is no yes or no answer as transferring in X player will depend on price and what you do with either money saved, or money you have to glean from another player. We bring our experiences into it but also try to present the latest research into players. But ultimately with Sanchez and Walcott there is no yes and no.

      Yes Sanchez is better than Walcott in a straight shoot out. We describe how he has better stats - especially with Cazorla out. We also looked at how Sanchez has double his points in recent games.

      But No, perhaps Sanchez isn't if you take that extra 3m in getting Walcott and use that to say upgrade Lukaku to Kane or Aguero. Then perhaps Sanchez and a cheap striker is worse than Walcott and a great striker.

      Sometimes we do nail it down to a yes or no, like Kane being the best captain pick in GWK 14, but fantasy football is rarely as simple as that.

      Hope that helps. And do keep the questions coming. We can't give our yes, no and most likely maybe views without such community questions 🙂

      1. Snibal
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Completely agree here. However, if you discuss questions I don't think it would be bad by starting ( or finishing) the analysis with; yes, I think Walcott can cover for Sanchez BUT sanchez will outscore him etc etc. Or No, I don't think Walcott can cover BUT if you can't afford Sanchez etc etc. There's always one direction you lean more towards. Having said that, it will always by about personal opinion and insight so no need to judge someone on leaning more or less towards one answer.

        1. J0E
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          That discussion was a good example where "maybe" was the key answer. Mark and Granville have Walcott not Sanchez and they clearly think that's the best route to go. Andy is far from convinced by that and liked Sanchez. I was undecided but reluctantly was persuaded by the strong argument that by getting Walcott I can also afford one of Aguero or Costa. If I got Sanchez in then that ends Aguero or Costa dreams - which will be the case for many other managers.

          Hard to even sum that up as a yes or no. But hopefully the above helped others come to their own decision.

      2. Whats the Mata?
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Good point! All questions cant be answered!
        Wou have to be optimistic sometimes, its how things are in fpl
        with the wally-sanchez part, everyone clearly knows who the better player is! but that 3m difference helps the rest team go from Pieters to Alonso and Lukaku to Kane
        They give their views on which player ig good and stuff
        You just cant predict
        Today Sanchez could score a hatty and Wally tomorrow
        They could both blank as well for weeks
        Stats is what they tell us and decisions should be made by us
        We manage OUR team, Jonty, Mark and co dont
        So stop being so harsh, mate.

    8. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      I'm probably at risk of repeating others points here but we'll go with it anyway 🙂

      I don't think anyone on The Scoutcast won't make a decision just because it will put egg on their face - look at myself and Jonty taking Aguero out, me holding Ibra for ages, Mark getting rid of Aguero last season when no-one else was really considering it.

      The problem with the questions is there's very rarely a yes or no answer, or a right or wrong answer and sometimes you're answering without any context.

      For example, Sanchez v Walcott. What does that extra money let you do? Do you have other captain options or will Sanchez be your captain for the most part?

      Most of the time when I see the final questions I always think "well that's actually quite hard to answer because of such and such" but you have to give an opinion on it one way or another and present your thoughts and research.

      We got a bit of our wires crossed on Walcott I think (perhaps my fault) because I was arguing he wasn't a good pick versus other options in a similar price bracket whereas Mark and Granville were primarily comparing him to Sanchez.

      All we can do is give reasoning behind our thoughts and then let the viewer take it from there, we're not there to give 100% yes or no answers to every question, there still has to be some decision making from the manager themselves.

      Going back to Walcott I argued that his stats were on the slide and Jonty did similar, although said he was still probably the sensible move. Mark and Granville still think he's a good option. So you did essentially get a yes or no, it was just a bit split (which will almost always happen).

      As someone who used to watch the show religiously I like the format we're currently at (although I'm sure there's improvements that can be made and we'd love to hear everyones feedback), as both a viewer and now Scoutcaster (not really sure what to call it!), I don't think there's a need to get a 100% definitive answer but to keep discussing different views and arguments.

      1. Whats the Mata?
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Y'all are doing a great job Andy. Keep it up!
        One hour or so on Wednesdays in my schedule is booked just for The Scoutcast 🙂

        1. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Good stuff and sounds like exactly what I used to do. If I couldn't tune in live I'd always watch the next day 🙂

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Thanks Andy. I hope you don't think I'm being critical of the show. I've said it many times... it's a highlight of my week and the best thing on telly (although "the missing" has been quite good recently 😀 )

            1. andy85wsm
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Of course not - feedback is good 🙂

              1. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                I definitely think there is a role for a Paxman persona on the scoutcast ... if you fancy it? 😉

              2. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                I expect a bit of this on Tuesday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyqnu6ywhR4

                😀

    9. tisza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      I like the Scoutcast more because it shows how experienced players are thinking when looking at issues FPL throws up.
      More about thought processes than specific answers.

      I would argue you can't have definitive answers on many questions like these for 2 reasons.
      1. It's never more than an educated guess. The whole point of FPL is its unpredictability. This last GW you've got a lot of good sides that on paper should be racking up big points with the fixtures but didn't.
      2. You can't answer definitively does Walcott cover Sanchez because the key to it is how you invest the cash difference rather than how the 2 players concerned perform.
      It becomes an open question as each side has its own requirements. It becomes too big a question will an extra 3 million invested in my defence + Walcott equal/better Sanchez and a cheaper defence.

      Scoutcasts just provide guidelines & tips but it isn't there to pick your side for you otherwise what's the point of playing FPL in the 1st place.

      1. J0E
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        On that point 1 - there was a team I read out on the rough with the smooth bit that was incredible - full of great players and he got an even worse gwk score than me. Makes no sense but shows how unpredictable this season is for fantasy managers.

        That's why I read out that F Society quote too about dogs chasing their tails.

        At the end of the day if we can offer some support around the hopes, fears, frustrations and joys that many Fantasy football managers feel each season then we've done our job.

        As someone pointed out to me on Twitter the other day the scoutcast is like therapy for me due to my poor rank. Hopefully all those other managers with poor ranks can relate to that too. How I wish there was a simple yes or no sometimes. 😉

        1. tisza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          i felt his pain. saturday morning thought I could be on for a bumper week - 2 liverpool mids who had been scoring pts for fun in home games against Sunderland, 3 Chelsea at home on a great run of form, Arsenal defender at home to Bournemouth, Leicester defender at home to Boro, Foster @ Hull + Lukaku - none of whom contributed more than 3pts.
          Grand total of 39pts thanks to Walcott & Austin.

          1. tisza
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            should add with all these players it was another 150k drop in OR 2nd GW running.

            1. J0E
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Crazy isn't it. That team could have scored 90 plus.

              I'm starting to think that just sticking with a team and only removing if injured or form really drops through the floor is the best way. Some weeks you'll get that score - others more than double.

              1. tisza
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                that's the plan now.
                Taken out Lukaku for form.
                Coutinho injury meant proposed rage transfer of Fuchs has been delayed for 1 week - a player who was brilliant for me last season.

              2. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                Thank you for your reply Jonty and Andy. I really appreciate it.

                I hope it didn't come across like I don't enjoy the scoutcast or find it useful, because that most certainly isn't the case.

                I just think that sometimes you and the guys are asked a question and you DO have a yes or a no or a maybe or a I'm not quite sure answer, but because you have just a passionate debate and discussion amongst yourselves, that the answer is never articulated and never stated outloud ... and then you move onto the next question.

                I just think a tweak to the format and a quick follow up at the end of the question would really help.

                1. FPL Virgin
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 19 days ago

                  * just a passionate debate = such a passionate debate

                2. J0E
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 19 days ago

                  All feedback appreciated. I wouldn't have hot topiced it if I thought it was a redundant debate.

                  Lots of good points being made. 🙂

                  1. FPL Virgin
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 19 days ago

                    Thanks, Jonty 🙂

    10. 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      I don't watch the Scoutcast for them to spoon-feed me 'Yes' or 'No' answers. I watch it to hear other good FPL managers discuss the weeks talking points i.e Sanchez vs Walcott. Then I can make my own decision whether it is a 'Yes' or 'No'.

      1. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        But your the special one, it's easy for you

        1. 1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          This is true.

    11. Rhinos
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      This reminds me of a really good film, Lone Survivor.
      Special forces on a covert mission in Afghan are compromised by local farmers, this leaves the unit with two options;

      A) Kill the farmers and carry on.
      B) Let them go and almost certainly be discovered.

      What (according to the guy the film is based on) is the right answer?

      Well he said it makes him laugh when he reads people on the internet adamant that either A or B is right, truth is there is no right answer, you just have to do what you feel is best at the time, every situation is different.

      Thankfully the stakes are a lot lower for us fpl managers but the point stands.
      Ps it's the banter that makes the scoutcast good not definitive answers, if those were available I'd be writing this from a beach in Barbados.

      1. scootadee
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        haha great analogy

    12. DMil
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Can Can allow you to go Firmino-less? 🙂

    13. Gangster Panda
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      I never expect a definite Y or N.
      The Scout Picks & Captain Poll are sufficient in my opinion and as for player analysis, forecasts & comparisons, it's the discussion that counts as far as I'm concerned.
      There's just far too many permutations.

      I enjoy reading all the comments & opinions on here as much as the Scoutcasts as, whilst I do some research myself - I don't have the time (or patience) to do as much as many folks on here do. I'll almost always overlook factors that the SC or comments here bring up. For that I'm grateful, but I take it all as general opinion only, nothing more, nothing less.

    14. Bojan Horsemack
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Mate, the fact that you've decided these guys are the 'experts', and you so badly want yes or no answers on player choice, makes me suspect strongly that you basically want them to pick your team for you.

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Mate, try reading the whole thread before you pipe up.

    15. buffrey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      I know you will/have been slated a bit for this but I see his point. IF you hold sway in what they decide a quick yes/no poll at the end of each question would be a good idea, and also drive further discussion.

      Unless they are foolish people know this is a variable game and people can't be held accountable if their opinions don't become facts.

      I like the idea

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        Thanks for sticking your neck out and backing me up.

        1. buffrey
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 18 days ago

          Not a problem. It's a fair enough point and as a listener you are, sort of, a customer. To be honest they do similar in semi regular articles about the chief talking points so why not on the pod as a little round up. As long as people aren't taking their advice as gospel and reacting negatively if it turns out bad then there is no issue.

    16. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Do your own homework.

    17. Numb
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Maybe as a compromise they could start by saying their overall answer, e.g. Yes / no or the name of a player, etc and then do the discussion as normal in order to explain or justify their answer and add any caveats.

      It does frustrate me a bit that most discussions seem to end with Mark saying "we'll see" - which does rather defeat the object as FPL is all about making decisions in advance, as once we've "seen" it is too late - Captain Hindsight and all that

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 18 days ago

        I agree.

    18. scootadee
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      wow you've really copped it here.

      i see your point though, as someone who is on the other side of the world and doesn't have a lot of time to do research i perhaps rely too heavily on the guys to keep me in the loop and help me pick my team.

      But yes i do also see what everyone else is saying and agree their points are valid (although perhaps harsh on you!) its a tough one.

      the guys do a great job i love the scoutcast for information and for banter 🙂

    19. Dino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 18 days ago

      No this is a terrible idea. People already place too much emphasis on what the scout cast guys say.

      The most valuable part of the scout cast is the discussion and thought processes behind making a decision on what is the best route.

      I think they go too far already recommending one thing over another. I don't think spoonfeeding should be their remit, they give so much information that if you can't make a decision you maybe should look for a different game to play.

    20. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Straight answers shouldn't be given. The scouts provide you with information letting you decide for yourself based on what they provided you with, otherwise we'd all be like sheep with the same teams, which is already a problem here.

  3. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 19 days ago

    Price Changes - 1st December 2016

    🔼 Sánchez, Austin

    🔽 Kightly, Lallana, Sterling, Romero, Targett

    1. Skyarm
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      +2
      if Fuchs doesnt drop and Cedric doesnt rise this will probably be my best week for Price changes ever

      1. davies
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Both will happen Saturday morning I reckon, which is a shame

        1. liiusions
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Agree, going to be a popular transfer this week. May be saved by everyone ditching Coutinho/Lukaku

          1. davies
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Fuchs on -98% I think so he'll deffo drop

      2. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        I don't think either will change before the deadline.

    2. Sharpe Shuffle
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Thanks TM

    3. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Stones is starting to pee me off now. 🙂

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        WC transfers have confused the price sites.

    4. mcrayeps
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Siggy stay on ur price till sunday pls

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        No chance.

      2. Z
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        He'll rise tomorrow and Saturday, sorry.

      3. mcrayeps
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        ;( -0.1 to hv smith then..

    5. Jasoooooooo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Damn no Costa rise 🙁

      At least Austin went up tho

    6. Jay_
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Cheers.

      • Amateur Pundit Zan
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Seem to have got myself temporarily back ahead of the trends after weeks in the wilderness.

      • Ziegler1988
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Kightly now the only healthy 4.2m

        1. Kiwivillan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          102 mins last 4 matches

          1. michudagawd
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            0 mins last 4 matches actually.

      • Licious Lizard
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Crazy week in terms of price changes.

        ML rival is away on trip and not doing his transfers until saturday. I can imagine it has cost him 0.7m already.....

        Is it okay to feel good about it or is it poor sportsmanship 🙂 ?

        1. The Big Fella
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Perfectly fine

      • kumast
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Thanks. lalla down, Gun down tomorrow - thats what i was hoping for. Now I can sell gun at 5.5 and punt on lalla at 7.

      • Venom Snake
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        This has been a good week for me in terms of price changes

        1. Licious Lizard
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Yep! Think it has been for a few os us, but still feels great!

      • NATSTER
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Cheers TM

    7. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      Good luck issaclun

      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        You don't really mean that 🙂

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          At least for his attackers, looks like defenders will decide the match up.

        2. Epic Fail
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          You calling TM a liar? 😮

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Been called worse.

      2. @Team Shark FC
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Same to you mike.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          mike? 😀

    8. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      What are Uniteds upcoming fixtures like?

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        This is taking laziness to a whole new level.

        1. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          I was just joining the crowd

          Next I will be asking you lot to pick my team

      2. Sims
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Which uniteds?

      3. Iceball
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Spurs only tough team next 7 weeks, in 2 weeks I might get one...or two...

    9. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      1-1

      De Gea at fault

      1. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Ya that was a terrible spill by Dave

    10. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      1-1 West Ham score

    11. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      That was genuinely awful by de Gea

    12. Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 19 days ago

      De gea mistake. 1-1. Fletcher scrambles home

    13. Jay_
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Fletcher G
        Payet A

      • Bubz
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 19 days ago

        Wtf was wrong with Payet there

        1. Worzel Gummidge
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Wants to move to a bigger club than the 2 that are playing today.

            1. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Up voted. Good work chief.

        2. Sims
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Did fetcher celebrate?

          1. Sims
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Wait that's West ham not brom

            1. Niemi
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Ashley Fletcher is ex man utd as well

          2. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Of course.

        3. ASHASHASH
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Boufal next Mahrez?

          1. Sims
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Bo awful more like

        4. Mull
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Still didn't qualify for the cup. Rigged!

        5. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          What is that song they are singing about Ashley Fletcher ?

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Ashley Fletcher, he's one of our own

            Ashley Fletcher, he left cos you're s****

            Former Utd player.

            1. Gnu
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Bleedin poetry I tells you.... 😆

            2. Morph - Unbelievable Geoff
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              I thought it was ...he left us for s***

              Not certain though.

              1. Wilshere Knowledge
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                Was 100% what Berbs said.

          2. Ógie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            I was trying to figure that out but i think it was

            Ashley Fletcher we sold you because you are s**t

            1. Syd.
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              I wasn't sure which one it was but I think Berbs could be right

        6. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Valencia now on the tightrope. Would be a nice way of keeping his price at 5.4m if he gets another in the upcoming games, before Brom.

        7. BadgersBoys
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Evening All,

          So, really want Kane in this week. Only viable way is to do Lukaku/Wally to Kane/Fer(etc) for -4pts. I have Sanchez.

          Would you go for these moves?

          Thanks,

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Fantasy EFL Cup?

        8. Wilshere Knowledge
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Cresswell down.

          Walcott against injured legs.

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Maybe we'll see you in the semi final next time..

            1. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              We're just giving them a headstart.

              Wait until Mavididi gets on. 😎

              1. Davido989
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                ive always wanted to use this..now is the time 😉

                http://i.imgur.com/pbLqP6H.jpg

                1. Wilshere Knowledge
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 19 days ago

                  😉

          2. Woy of the Wovers
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Now I'm confused who's playing whom.

            1. Wilshere Knowledge
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Arsenal play West Ham on Saturday.

        9. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Glad to see opponent is on -4 as well.
          G'luck Dollaz. 🙂

        10. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Martial = £59 million

          Is this correct?

          1. Sauzée
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Plus a bag of Mitre balls

          2. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Only if he wins the Ballon D'Or and does a bunch of other crazy stuff.

          3. The Fantastic Mr Fox
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            36 mil.

            20 in performance based increments

            1. Gnu
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Nearly p1ssed myself laughing until I saw you typed 'increments'
              My bad.

              1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                😉

              2. Dino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                He meant excrement

          4. BabyB
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            a gift from van gaal..

          5. Somalion
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Depends on who you believe.

            Last I saw on here the price had risen to approximatelt 8 hundred billion pounds and seven unreleased, never before heard Rolling Stones albums. Think there was a clause about owning one of Saturn's moons should he successfully run forward for 3 consecutive steps as well.

        11. Boydinho
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Cresswell out injured. Huh didn't see that one coming.

          1. Woy of the Wovers
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Why would you?

        12. Jazz!
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          "Looks like we will have to settle for another moral victory since we played some nice stuff and dominated"

          😆

          1. Licious Lizard
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Is it too late to bookmark 😉

        13. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Masuaku coming on for cresswell

          This guy is absolutely terrible

          Sanchez c at the weekend

          1. The Fantastic Mr Fox
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            too bad Sanchez doesn't play as RW

            1. John t penguin
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Never lets a fact get in the way of a dramatic point

              1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                This is not true

                If you watch Sanchez play as a striker this season he is all over the front positions, hes not the traditional striker he goes out to the wings, drops deep often

                1. John t penguin
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 19 days ago

                  Hang your argument for saying he plays right wing is to tell me he is a striker

                2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 19 days ago

                  In any case I was talking about how it weakens the defence

                3. The Fantastic Mr Fox
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 19 days ago

                  U could'a at least said Walcott (c)

          2. Gnu
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            The new Alli Cissoko.

            1. Davido989
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              But Aly could do it on a wet night in Stoke. 😉

              https://youtu.be/wRq_bKuB8MM

              1. Gnu
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                Haha, he was monster for Villa last season - not.

          3. Bolivian Seaman
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            very true

          4. Morph - Unbelievable Geoff
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Not sure the LB is that relevant but if this goes to extra-time then 100% Sanchez (c)

        14. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          shaw injured again

          1. Bolivian Seaman
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            how does he get injured so often? I couldn't even if I tried

            1. Bazzalona
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Must be a left back thing.
              Cresswells always crocked as well.

              1. Ayew Serious
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                Actually, he played so consistently before his first injury in forever last season

                1. Bazzalona
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 19 days ago

                  But this season he's picking up injuries a lot. Get a bad injury and other minor ones follow its how it pans out

        15. The Fantastic Mr Fox
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Shaw limping

        16. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Luke Shaw injured again

          Poor lad is a walking disaster

        17. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Shaw injury shocker

        18. The Fantastic Mr Fox
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Finally Wenger brings on his big summer signing. Wonder what Xhaka did wrong? must be punishment for scoring 2 long rangers

        19. Cok3y5murf
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 19 days ago

          Why am I always up against players higher ranked than me? 🙁

          And now a former cup holder!

          1. Epic Fail
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 19 days ago

            Always likely to happen when you have a terrible rank.

            1. Cok3y5murf
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 19 days ago

              Lol it's not that terrible

              1. Epic Fail
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 19 days ago

                Link? 😉

                1. Cok3y5murf
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 19 days ago

                  Click my name. It's in the article

                  1. Epic Fail
                    • 15 Years
                    9 years, 19 days ago

                    Aye not exactly terrible tbh.

                    1. Cok3y5murf
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 19 days ago

                      Wait he has Lukaku, Deeney and Coutinho and hasn't transferred them out yet. What a noob! 😀

                  2. TorresMagic™
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 16 Years
                    9 years, 19 days ago

                    It's terrible for FFS 😛

                    1. Cok3y5murf
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 19 days ago

                      It's my first serious season. Was a casual until last year. Have some mercy 😛