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4 December 2016 1451 comments
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After yesterday’s dramatic events, Sunday treats us to two more top-flight fixtures with Bournemouth hosting Liverpool in the early kick-off.

Still reeling from the loss of Philippe Coutinho to an ankle injury, Jurgen Klopp’s side will be looking to Roberto Firmino and Sadio Mane to make the difference.

Fully recovered from a minor calf complaint, Firmino has netted in two of his last three road trips. Mane, though, needs to up his output on the road, having failed to score outside of Anfield since the season opener at Arsenal.

Divock Origi has the chance to flourish as a short-term option up top – having netted in the last two across all competitions, the Belgian leads the line at the Vitality this afternoon.

Bournemouth will be no pushovers, though – over their last five home matches, Eddie Howe’s men have chalked up a trio of clean sheets and conceded just three times.

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  1. 824545201
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Play Amat (SUN) or Smith (bur) next week?

    1. Halftime
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Smith and I own Amat

      1. Hymie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Doesn't Mata own Amat too?

  2. tm245
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    If you are going to gamble on a player, a 4.2 as a fourth or fifth def who has a nose for the goal is pretty low risk, high reward. Wish I had an extra day or two to figure out if Ake works in my team or not.

    1. Gemgem1010
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      My thinking to switch Smith to Ake bank the cash but who drops for Daniels ??

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Can Ake play as a holding midfielder?

      2. tm245
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Would like to know how secure those spots are for Bournemouth.

  3. Henryyy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    What a GW this has been for me, 97 points all out 🙂 im happy

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Y brag?

      1. Henryyy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Yep 100% brag

    2. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Well played 🙂

      1. Henryyy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers NUMB

    3. tm245
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Great job.

    4. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Nice!

  4. squits
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Swans defence sucks, go smith

    1. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Bit random, but true.

    2. squits
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      reply fail > for 8245

    3. 824545201
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      My thinking as well, plus Smith has some attacking potential.

  5. liiusions
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Liverpool should go all out for VVD and a top keeper in January, It won't happen, but we should. Should have signed Hart while we had our chance

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Are you mad VVD is going to ManU

    2. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Karius is a v young keeper, he will make mistakes but will improve. Lovren, Lucas and Milner will make mistakes but won't improve. There's the difference.

      1. liiusions
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        We've needed a quality keeper who demands the box for years now, and I don't want to wait another 3/4 years for Karius to maybe become that. Just shows how much Matip has been carrying our defence, Lovren actually looks decent next to him. Can't say anything bad about Milner, he was quality was just unfortunate for the pen, it happens

    3. Tansey
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Don't reckon they would've sold us Hart

      1. liiusions
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Before the season I reckon they would have, not now

    4. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I'd love him at Arsenal too but no chance we're buying him.

    5. Lecky Legs FC
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      This ^ Lucas hasn't got the legs anymore to defend especially against the agility and speed off opposition players absolute just shows how Matip is vital to the defence too we blew it today I think nobody will stop Chelsea now.

  6. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I am sorry now i did not do Firmino>Mkhitaryan for a hit 🙁

  7. The Chump
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Are there midweek games coming up this week?

    1. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Champions League and Europa League.

  8. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Firmino out after this shocking display

    1. Tansey
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      WHU next

      1. FALCAO & MOU
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        He was not 100% plus this.

    2. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Gonna have to stick with him unfortunately, already laid out my cards for GW15.

    3. Evasivo
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      he looked good, just unlucky. Did u watch the game?

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Good? What game did you watch?

        1. Evasivo
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          same as you obvs. So you selling him?!

          1. sminkypinky
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            See below. I didn't think he was his normal self. Seemed lack luster. Slow and out of place on the wing.

    4. sminkypinky
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      For me, yes.

  9. Joggers Nipple
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Carrick Herrara
    Miki Pogba Martial
    Zlatan

    Wow, Jose may have finally got it!

    Sorry for Mata but glad to see lingard, rooney, fellani where they should be

    Still hope they lose as Mou is Cee U Next Tuesday

    1. Champione
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Rooney may be back next game after suspension. He was brilliant midweek

    2. Point-one short
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He might yet get done for tax evasion. 🙂

  10. Sharpe Shuffle
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Already used my FT to get Costa. Worth a -8?

    Kosc, Walcott to Ake, Hazard

  11. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    lovren back to his normal self then, always needs babysitting. such a sheesh defender

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I didn't like Firmino's display at LW Berbs. You think that'll change next week?

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Not sure. He was poor today but wasn't even match fit

        1. Jazz!
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Ah, he did look sluggish. Cheers.

    2. Lecky Legs FC
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Lovren was awful but when your partnering up with Lucas at the back then you would be all over the place just show how vital Matip is to us.

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Matip has had to baby sit Lovren for weeks. Lucas isn't great and was poor today, but was far better than Lovren. Need a CB in January to partner Matip. Sakho is off anyway.

        1. Lecky Legs FC
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah Lovren has been shaky a few times in home games too just doesn't fill you with confidence either when Matip is missing can't see us buying in the January Transfer Window Klopp said something along the lines of that he doesn't get excited by the hype of it all if I were him I'd go all out for VVD if it means paying £25+ million for him then do it but he's not like that.

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            I think Van Dijk would cost towards £40m.

    3. Dr Van Nostrand
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Don't need to waste a fortune in Jan if he would just bloody well reinstate Sakho

  12. Oven Glover
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Funny game this. My two best gws have come after taking massive hits. A -20 resulted in 114 gw4 and I'm on 102 with Ibra to go after a -12 this week. Don't be afraid of taking a couple of hits here and there!

    1. Ravager
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yup. One of my ML rivals is on 95 points with a -16...so has me questioning if playing stingy is always worth it.

      1. Oven Glover
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Risers and fallers need to be taken into account as well. TV counts and can make up for some minus points.

    2. KUNingas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      So is it worth doind Deeney, Redmond and Koscielny -> Anichebe, Sanchez and Cedric (-12)?

      1. Oven Glover
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Sanchez explosion next week and it has paid off. You'll have to go with your gut.

        1. KUNingas
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks. Might do that

    3. liiusions
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Is a -12 purely to get Alonso in worth it then?

      1. Oven Glover
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I wouldn't go that far!

    4. DF
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      good work. fun times

      1. Oven Glover
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers! Needed this after a handful of stinkers.

  13. squits
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    My ML rival captained Lukaku. Bold move

    1. jbenny1107
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Why?

    2. ChampChomp
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      *Bad move

  14. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Only a few weeks ago I thought having Mané was the lesser player to own over Coutinho/Firmino.

    1. squits
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Im glad I stuck with him when he was below milner in points for the season. Hope the injury isnt bad

    2. jbenny1107
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Hope he isn't injured.

  15. dhamphiir
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Those of who doesn't know Nathan Ake, he can play in defensive midfield and defence (Left back and centre back) just like Ruud Gullit

    1. jbenny1107
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Got the start three weeks ago because Smith got a red. Got the start the last two weeks because Daniels is out. Rotation risk.

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Might be but has staken a real claim for starting berth.

    2. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      It's great to know that he's a similarly versatile renowned, international star level FORWARD like Ruud Gullit. Thanks!

  16. jbenny1107
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Can or Fer for the next five?

  17. Camp No No
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    w t f just happened?

  18. Bouncebackability
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Sakho must have really annoyed Klopp as he could have played today with Matip out.

    1. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      If he wants to play football he should just leave in January.

      1. Bouncebackability
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        He will.

    2. Dr Van Nostrand
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Far better defender than Lovren or Lucas. Seems petty not reinstating Sakho who was brilliant last year under Klopp.

      1. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Also the best "quarterback" in PL.

      2. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        But I think Klopp has made this a question of authority. Which is a pity.

        1. Dr Van Nostrand
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Yup clearly has his faves no idea why Lucas is. Should have been shipped in the summer but is somehow 3rd choice even ahead of Klavan. Mind boggling

  19. thep025
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Cedric->Ake allows me to do Pedro->Haz for -8. Worth it??

    1. Champione
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      not at all

  20. TheSteady ¤ Wines th…
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Any player bets for Everton vs Man United? 😀

    1. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Lukaku assist

    2. ChampChomp
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Mkhi to score first 15/2

  21. sminkypinky
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Firmino -> Sanchez for -8? Guessing it has to be done for the long haul...

    1. Champione
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      doing it for -4 myself. -8 is a lot though

      1. sminkypinky
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        It is. But not having him is a little (very) unnerving

        1. Champione
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          agree! -8 is a lot cheaper than a new and bigger sofa

          1. sminkypinky
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Still 23 gameweeks. What's 8 points?

          2. df34
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            🙂 ha ha that made me laugh Champione!!
            I better get him in for a -8

            1. Champione
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              😀

    2. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Firmino has West Ham at home next GW...

  22. boc610
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    will the penny ever drop with Ross Barkley?

    1. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He has earned his place on the bench i think he will stay on now for some time to come

  23. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Jose and Pep's rotation is deeply frustrating.

    1. boc610
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      but not surprising, theyre notorious for doing it..so we shouldn't be too shocked when it happens

  24. 824545201
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    If we follow the story of this season so far, Firmino will get a decently big haul to punish and instill panic into everyone who sold him.
    It's imminent.

  25. zedred
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Too many people saved by Sanchez this week! Frustrating

    1. thep025
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah

    2. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      ^This!!!

  26. Weilong7
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    repost

    fuchs and kun to alonso and costa for -4 worth it?
    im thinking that its a good move considering chelsea fixtures..

    another qns is costa or kane for next week? thinking of getting kane after united game in place of lkk

    1. darthwader
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Alonso

    2. KUNingas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Do it!

  27. Paul
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Praying to all gods Jaku starts tomorrow!!!!

  28. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Please Klopp,
    Sign some decent defenders.

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      And stop playing Lucas.

      1. Live Lad
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        In defence

    2. Dr Van Nostrand
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Knew ditching Sakho would come back to bite. Lucas and Lovren are rubbish under pressure.

  29. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Is Can a viable 5th mid option?

    1. Dr Van Nostrand
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Viable 4th