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After Liverpool’s second-half collapse in a seven-goal thriller at the Vitality Stadium, we now make our way to Goodison Park as Everton entertain Manchester United in the 4pm kick-off.

With five goals in as many outings across all competitions, Zlatan Ibrahimovic carries the hopes of many Fantasy managers heading into this one.

Up against a defence with one clean sheet in nine, the Red Devils’ frontman was the second most captained player in Gameweek 14 with just over 13.1% of Fantasy Premier League managers handing him the armband.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Anthony Martial are rewarded with starts after both excelled in the midweek cup win against West Ham.

The Toffees recent downturn in form saw over 231,000 FPL managers part company with Romelu Lukaku last week alone – only Philippe Coutinho was subject to more transfers out ahead yesterday’s deadline.

Now down to 9.5 in price, the big Belgian has netted just once in the last five Gameweeks compared to six goals in his first seven appearances.

Nonetheless, with United managing just two shut-outs in the previous 10 league matches, Ronald Koeman’s side will be optimistic of getting back amongst the goals today.

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  1. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    For next GW who would you play out of

    Fuchs
    McAuley
    Pieters

    If you really had to

    Any ideas would be welcomed

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Fuchs, Leicester are better at home and city aren't in the best form.

    2. Ha.
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Fuchs

    3. Jay_
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Fuchs easily.

  2. ♤TeddyBear♤
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    When will we find out about costa's Injury? These price rises will cause problems if I wait...

    1. Deano
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      He's fine - just another pathetic flag to reduce transfers.

  3. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    thinking of bringing in the big man Andy Caroll in from GW16

    GW16-Burnley
    GW17- Hull
    GW 18-Swansea

    thoughts?

    1. JIM BOB
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Those fixtures are why I'm interested in Ayew

    2. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Payet or nobody for me

    3. Karan_G14
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Payet imo.

    4. Jay_
      9 years, 8 months ago

      We're just too poor at home. Poor in general but even worse at home. I've voided them off as an option.

      1. Bruno Bruno!!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        think carrol can add a new dimension to westham and can be the catalyst for a change in fortunes

    5. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Lanzini cus i'm hipster.

    6. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Can't really argue with those fixtures.

    7. Morgs
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      is carroll injured? Where's he been all this time?

  4. Pinky Blinders
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    That FPLstat site probably is getting more traffic than this site this year. I go there multiple times a day to check the market. God that makes me sound like a sad individual.

    1. Gnu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I very very much doubt that.

      1. Pinky Blinders
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        No really I am sad

        1. Gnu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 17 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          😆
          No. I meant that FPLstats would have more traffic.

          1. Pinky Blinders
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            lol I'm kidding my life is awesome. Just trying to nail home a point. FFS and price tracking real time is a match. Put it behind a paywall and I'd likely pay for it. Since FFS could do more on the analysis side than the dude that ghosts it now can. For what it is worth, I find the draw for a paying sub now pretty sub par.

    2. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Sound like?

    3. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      You're not the only one.

      I wonder if the site owner makes any money through advertising.

    4. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Doesn't look like Kane will rise again tonight.

    5. Pinky Blinders
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Can I get an entrepreneurial hot topic green for this?

  5. Mavric Marco
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Eyeing up these moves, any preference?

    A. Aguero & Pedro > Costa & Hazard (-4)

    B. Aguero, Carrick & Traore > Anichebe, Hazard & Siggy (-8)

    C. Aguero, Carrick & Pedro > Nacho, Hazard & Siggy (-8)

    1. Konstaapeli
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      A. Deffinetly.

      1. Mavric Marco
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers, I suppose thats the most sensible

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      A is nice and clean.

      1. Mavric Marco
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Nice one

  6. Jeremiah
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Anything here worth a hit? 😀

    A. Coleman > Alonso
    B. Allen > 8.6

    1. Vlad
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      B for sure.. a in the long term.. i am also getting rid of coleman.. but already got alonso.. want to go nathan ake but he probably is going on the bench again soon..

    2. Karan_G14
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Any of them are.

  7. Vlad
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    is this ake dude nailed? won't he end up on the bench when daniels is fit? ?? i would really really like to sell coleman and make some money on it... i need at least a mil.. so what can i get for 4.4 mil better then this guy?

    1. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Frieknd

    2. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      He was on the bench before when Daniels was fit, personally i wouldn't risk him yet. Couple of Middlesbrough defenders for 4.4 or Ward from Burnley or goal threat from Dawson at Hull.

  8. joescores
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Sorry to be a pain:

    A- Firmino, Holebas

    B- Lalana, Alonso

    Muchas gracias

    1. Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      A. After today many will disagree, but we're with Firmino now where many were with Sanchez a few weeks ago.

  9. United10
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Will Sanchez price go up again tonight? if not, when?

      1. United10
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks guys

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Tomorrow if not tonight.

  10. Kun Tozser
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Giroud to Ibra for a hit? Was hoping to wait a week but looks like prices will dictate

    1. BadgersBoys
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Absolutely.

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      If you can't afford to wait then sure, go for it.

  11. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    I made my week's transfers last night while rather drunk. Do they hold up?

    Aguero, Mata, Coleman > Costa, Sanchez, Barragan (-8)

    1. Olivier Bernards watch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      yup, solid moves

    2. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Very good moves IMO, especially with Boro fixtures

    3. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Yep good!

    4. BadgersBoys
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      You should make drunk moves more.

    5. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      That's reassuring. Well, apart from the notion that I'm smarter drunk than sober that is.

  12. ♤TeddyBear♤
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Are any Walcott owners worrying about him being dropped? He was very poor yesterday and they scored 4 after he went off...

    1. Konstaapeli
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      In a way yes. He'll prolly start most games but usually the first sub out. Ditched for Sanches.

  13. Heavy Data
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Half way through last week I said i wanted to get kane in but the only way i could do that was by downgrading Firminio to Can and that would let me upgrade Anichebe to Kane. Got talked out of it by many members on here. So today im obviously kicking myself. Would of ended today on 101 points. But i have Snoddy playing tomorrow so there is hope of a few points, literally.

    1. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Well Firmino is going to get a lot more points than Can long term.

      Is there not another way you can buy Kane?

      1. Heavy Data
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Nope, and its too late, ive already made my transfers. Looking at Firminio's and Can's stats together they are very similar and in fact after today Can has more shots and attempts so ive taken a risk and done it.

  14. Ghost86
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Bottomed

    Allen to siggy -4

    Smith to Alonso -4

    Any of these hits worth it?

    Mid
    Sanchez hazard firmino Allen fletcher

    Def
    Cedric McCauley smith pieters Amat

    1. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Pieters to Alonso

    2. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Get rid of Allen!

    3. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Same problem I'm doing Morgan to Alonso most probably

  15. Kroosin'
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Sanchez Hazard Firmino Eriksen Siggy

    Costa Austin Anichebe

    Would you prefer Austin as the second striker in a 3-5-2 ? or

    getting Kane/Ibra and downgrading the fifth mid spot is the better alternative ?

    Drafted in Eriksen this week, starting to wonder whether that was a wrong move.

  16. GE
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Williams and Pedro -> Alonso and Eriksen/Alli for -8?

    Current team:
    Heaton
    Williams/Holebas/Cedric
    Sanch/Haz/Siggy/Pedro
    Kane/Costa/Austin

    Bench: Pick, Amat, Love, De Roon

    1. Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Nope

  17. For Fuchs Sake
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Pickford Grant
    Lovren Pieters Holebas Amat McAuley
    Walcott Firmino Hazard Siggy Capoue
    Kane Austin Aguero

    Thoughts? 0.5 ITB Choice between Costa and Sanchez, Kun to Costa or Walcott to Sanchez and Kun to Defoe/Tekkers etc......

  18. jai1212
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Ibra over Costa?
    Have Hazard already for Chelsea cover. Got Kane as well.

    1. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      No

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Prefer Costa, though obviously he carries that yellow risk.

      1. Deano
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        United are capped by Mou's defensive mindset. Ibra would be gold at any other Club.

    3. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Costa. Better player and better team. And he's on fire. And cheaper.

    4. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Please no

  19. Karan_G14
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Is this worth (-4) this week?

    Out: Firmino & Austin

    In: Fer & Costa

    Appreciate your thoughts!

    1. Seven2Seven
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      I not sure about Fer, how about can instead?

      1. Karan_G14
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Not a bad shout honestly.

      2. Dasher0303
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        I struggling to decide between them. I have Firmino but not Siggy so leaning towards Fer.

    2. Ha.
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      No

    3. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      HA.

      No

    4. CunkOnFPL
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      no way

    5. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      No

  20. CunkOnFPL
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Early Ideas for this mess:

    Picky, Jak,
    Alonso, Kosc, Holebas, Williams, Smith
    Allen, Firmino, Haz, Wally, De Roon
    Austin, Kane, Costa?

    0 FT 2.8m ITB
    Thanks in advance!

    1. Webbinho
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Allen -> Siggy

    2. Karan_G14
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Downgrade Kosc and then Wally to Sanchez.

    3. Odikostar
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Allen to siggy or son?

    4. CunkOnFPL
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Cheers!

  21. Dasher0303
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Morgan or Evans out for Alonso??

    Morgan has the better fixtures but Leicester are awful, while wba don't keep clean sheets very much. Morgan also might drop today.

    1. Ha.
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Ditch Morgan this week and Evans after Swansea

      1. Dasher0303
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Also need to ditch Allen and maybe Firmino if he blanks next week. Might need to get Arsenal defender as well after city game. Should I get rid of Allen instead for Siggy or as well as this transfer for -8 to Fer/can?

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Morgan

    3. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Morgan

  22. Aston-villain
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Is Mané to Sanchez worth a hit?

    I'm thinking not after today, with West ham up next, but the possibility that he may not play due to the knock is really bugging me.

    1. Ha.
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

    2. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Probably.

    3. Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Nope. He probably will play. It was hardly a serious looking knock

      1. Deano
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        You will have to oust Mane before AFCON so now looks like a good time. Appeared to tear his groin badly tonight and Pool looked awful.

        1. Rhinos
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          you what? Dont post such drivel, he carried on after he took the knock and jogged off when subbed

          1. Deano
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            That comment of yours is extremely misleading. He went down immediately after chasing a through ball and stayed down even after trying to get into an on side position when the game went on. He immediately called for assistance whilst testing his groin with stretching and limped off.
            Unless he is a great actor, this is a "serious" injury.

      2. Deano
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Did you watch the game mate?

        1. Differentiator
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          Yep. Didn't look serious

    4. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Not even worth an FT for me.

    5. Aston-villain
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks guys. A real contrast of opinions here...afcon probably the point which most helps me make up my mind

      1. Differentiator
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        AFCON is a month away..... Since when does anyone here look that long term :P. Sanchez could get injured next week!

    6. Je suis le chat
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      No, unless his injury is serious. Both are essential (if one had a wildcard).

  23. Delhidynamo
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M32K-MBPiUo

    won't be surprised if Ibra is banned, probably best to hold off from the transfer

    1. Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Doubt it. Cite Lamela hand tread last year. They can't prove it's intentional.

      1. Epic Fail
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        It's not like a court of law. They don't need to prove beyond a reasonable doubt or any such nonsense.

        1. Differentiator
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          At the same time they're not going to guess are they.

          95% chance in my book absolutely nothing happens

          1. Epic Fail
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            Wouldn't put it psdt them.

            1. Differentiator
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 8 months ago

              Again cite Lamela hand tread.

          2. Epic Fail
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            past*

      2. Delhidynamo
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        don't think he plead ignorance on not knowing Coleman's head being under his foot

        1. Differentiator
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          He just fell over and gravity etc. As much as it could be intentional, it would be farcical if they gave a retrospective ban for that

          1. Differentiator
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 8 months ago

            *That's not to say I don't think it was intentional. Quite the opposite, but it would be a ridiculous precedent in this situation to conclude that IMO

    2. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      If that happens then Mourinho will probably appear with a tin foil hat on next time we see him.

      1. Delhidynamo
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Illuminati

    3. Epic Fail
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Definitely on purpose. Dirty player.

    4. Rhinos
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      i wouldnt be surprised either, id be flabbergasted

      1. Deano
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Move along, nothing to see here!

    5. Postman Ty
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      not a chance...

  24. -SB-
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Should i keep Zaha for GW 15?

    1. Ha.
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Yes, and the rest

  25. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Andy Caroll hattrick incomming against a poor liverpool defence, stranger things have happened

    1. Karan_G14
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Doubt he'll get more than 60 mins.

      Matip will make a big difference.

  26. IWR
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    A) Holebas-Alonso (-4)
    B) Firm-Sanchez (-4)

    Note: Already have Mane for West Ham home next week, can't afford to do both of the above.

    1. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Could move Holebas and Mane to Alonso and Sanchez.

    2. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Gotta get Sanchez imo

  27. Danstoke82
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Hi all.

    Anything to do with this team?, already did the obligatory Aguero > Costa move. Anything worth a -4?

    Pickford
    Lovren Koscielny McAuley
    Sanchez Hazard Mane Allen
    Costa Kane Anichebe

    Subs; Heaton De Roon Amat MWilson

    0FT 4.1ITB

    1. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      G2G

    2. n-doggg
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Would be tempted to upgrade Allen

      1. Danstoke82
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Who to out of interest?

  28. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone watching the snooker?

    Of the very highest of standards....

  29. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    Best options here guys

    Current setup for GW15

    Heaton
    Mustafi Williams Holebas
    Sanchez Hazard Firmino Siggy
    Costa Kane Anichebe

    Pickford Allen Amat Evans

    A - Williams/Allen >> Alonso/Phillips(or other 6.2 player)

    B - Williams/Allen >> Rose/Walker/Moses

    Thanks

    1. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 8 months ago

      Team looks pretty good. Are these moves for a hit or what? You're probably right to want Alonso.

      1. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 8 months ago

        Either a hit this GW or next

        1. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 8 months ago

          Depending if I go A or B

  30. bojack
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 8 months ago

    What was the best ever Premier League game you can remember watching?

    I vividly remember my dad's despair as Newcastle lost 4-3 at Anfield in that all-time classic, I felt exhausted after watching it.