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11 December 2016 3338 comments
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The final match of Gameweek 15 sees Liverpool welcome West Ham United to Anfield in the 4.30pm kick-off.

Both Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino are highly fancied against a Hammers defence that shipped five at home to Arsenal last weekend.

Mane has served up points in five of his six home outings, whilst Firmino will be looking to banish a three-match barren run and return to the form that has already seen him register 15 points in front of his own supporters on two occasions.

Divock Origi looks to score for the fourth successive match in all competitions to strengthen his claim as a mid-price festive frontman.

West Ham, meanwhile, have home encounters with Burnley and Hull followed by a trip to Swansea in the upcoming three Gameweeks.

We’ll be looking for signs of form from Dimitri Payet and the fit-again Michail Antonio, then, while big Andy Carroll is named amongst the subs against his former club, having emerged from the bench to net the Hammers’ consolation against Arsenal last time out.

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  1. phace
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Anyone got Firmino game stats? What is he even doing? (I cba to watch Liverpool, find them boring af)

    Have got 9.8 to replace him, rest of my attack is Haz/Sanch/Siggy/Allen/Diomande/Kane/Costa, who should I bring through? Need to sort out Allen/Dio at somepoint too, so this might be the opportunity to do that.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Mmbers area

      1. phace
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Just woke up from a Liverpool-induced nap, not sure why I even asked that 😀

  2. Ginola14
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    delfeu assist....

    1. Licious Lizard
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Haha.... Ah last year was fun 🙂

  3. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Gotta love the PL! Nothing is ever settled in advance and all the teams can beat each other.

  4. MisterMaster
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Firmino and austin to payet and origi -4

    Yay or nay?

    1. Speédy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      All day,i would wait for mane ban news though

  5. Arteta
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    In top 60k for the first time this season. So happy!

    1. Kermit Special
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Well done dudr

      1. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Thank you!

    2. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Well done.

      Meanwhile I'm struggling to get out from 1m rank

      1. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        We've all been there. You still have 23 gameweeks (and second wildcard, triple captain, bench boost) to make things right!

    3. Cato Fong 你好
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Nice, how do you do that, many hits this season?

      1. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Appreciate it! I only took 2 hits in 13 gameweeks. I've fallen from 70k to 300k and I knew it's time to shake things up. Last week I bought Costa, Walcott and Austin for -8 and these week an amazing -8 hit. Austin, Holebas, Koscielny > Origi, van Dijk, Alonso. I chose the wrong one between Holebas and Pieters but it is what it is. My other plan was benching Austin and buying Alonso, which would've mean playing Amat and Holebas. Even that would've turn out well I'm really happy because I didn't go for Iheanacho and Cedric and tried something different. This week I can save a transfer and my team looks very strong once again.

        1. Cato Fong 你好
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 9 days ago

          Ta, appreciate the response! May the wind remain at your back 😉

    4. Lawrø
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Well done!

      1. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Cheers Lawro and keep up the good work! 1k is not far away fror you. 🙂

        1. Arteta
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 9 days ago

          from*

  6. HamezMace
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Hazard, Costa and Kane owners, who are you captaining this midweek?

    1. Shultan
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Kane

    2. Bleach †
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Kane me thinks, not gonna captain Hazard again.

    3. Atimis
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      HurriKane

  7. Tansey
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Barry assist

  8. rohan
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Risers tonight ?

    1. OLEgend
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Benteke Llorente Costa Zaha

    2. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Lateriser

  9. FPL_Hazards
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Fuchs to Cedric for a hit went well then

    1. Top 210 Club
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      ðŸ™
      Things can only get better

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Look at the bright side, you got rid of Fuchs

    3. Deulofail
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Fuchs to Bertrand here. No hit but doubled with Cedric, and neithet started. Amat my star player this week

  10. â­ Bemba_Da â­
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Failmino to eriksen or mane?

    1. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Mane

    2. Top 210 Club
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Antonio or Ayew 😉

    3. Rolls-Royce
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Calm down Bemba. Trust in Bobby.

    4. itwaswritten
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Neither.

      xox

  11. TheTinman
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    If that's an assist after the alexis assist then I will........drink another beer

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      What was wrong with Sanchez assist?

      1. walkman666
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        This ^

  12. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Unless I got it wrong. Chelsea have conceded just 2 in 9 games. Was considering Toby or Bellerin but thinking the double up with Alonso by adding Azpi. Obviously does not allow Hazard and Costa but I can't afford Costa anyway. Thoughts?

    1. Sjaugen
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Costa is so very important to have

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        I missed that boat about 15 weeks ago.

    2. Blanka
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Eggs in one basket.

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        There are times when defence double up can work over the years and usually involved Chelsea defenders.

        1. Blanka
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 days ago

          Can work, and great when it does.

    3. Postman Ty
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      My ML rival has had double chelsea defence for a bit now and it's killing me. They have a period of crappy fixtures after this good period where you definitely wouldn't want double. I've doubled in the past a few times, mostly on Sot'n when they have their fortress-mode activated, but it's always failed. That's just my luck though.

  13. JayBomb
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Nothing GK could do pure class

    1. â­ Bemba_Da â­
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Not sure if serious

      It was awful goalkeeping

    2. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I think he, Karius, could do better with positioning.

  14. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Woohoo! I won the scout picks community challenge!

  15. Az
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Going to try this again...

    Shall I get a Burnley or a 'Boro DEFENDER? (Max 4.5)
    And which one do we reckon is best?

    1. Phil Dagger â­
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      friend (will be fit soon)
      Or Barragan

    2. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Pick mee

    3. Shultan
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Friend if he has recovered from his injury, gets the odd assist. If still injured then barraghan

    4. Hooky
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Boro friend

    5. Over Midwicket
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Boro 100%. Burnley are horrible.

    6. Captain Blanks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Definitely not Burnley. Friend from Boro (when he is fit) could be a good option

    7. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Boro

  16. Speédy
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Can Antonio cover payet??

    1. Tansey
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      owning one has no effect on how the other scores. zero correlation

    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Malformed question

  17. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Loving the inteded recipient rules. Saved me twice this season

  18. Smoky Johnson
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    1-0
    1-0
    1-0
    1-0

    Yesterday was 3, its the magic number, yes it is

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Leicester scored 4.

    2. itwaswritten
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Competitive!!!!!!1111!!!!!!

      La Liga WON.

      xox

    3. Dougal McGuire
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Somewhere in the ancient mystic trinity........

      1. Smoky Johnson
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        U get 3, yes its the magic number

  19. Professor Abel X
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Firmino to Payet I think. Firmino not convincing me at all, just doesn't look involved

    1. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Me too.

    2. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Early in the match yet, but I very much so regret buying him.

      1. Professor Abel X
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        I know it's early in the game, have watched a fair bit of Liverpool and he rarely convinces me

        1. Somalion
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 9 days ago

          Oh yeah I frequently criticise him. Just assumed he'd still get some attacking returns.

          1. Professor Abel X
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 9 days ago

            Hope so! Might still get rid even so!

            1. Somalion
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 9 days ago

              I may well join you tbh.

    3. SuperDan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Was going to go with Eriksen myself but Payet may have just made this difficult lol

      1. Professor Abel X
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Mane Eriksen and Payet are the options. Going to West Ham v Burnley on Weds so makes it a bit more interesting to have a player involved!

    4. JÆKS â­
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Yea indeed, this has been the problem since Coutinho was injured....

  20. Mark-O
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Zaza not on the bench

    1. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      What happened to him?

      1. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        He was born, grew up, became a terrible footballer, has remained a terrible footballer and even now, though not on the bench, I can assure you that he is, in fact, a terrible footballer.

        1. Gooner97
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 days ago

          You are wrong, he just need confidence.

          1. Somalion
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 9 days ago

            I am 100% confident in his ability to be utterly useless.

          2. Smurf
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 9 days ago

            And ability.

          3. Mark-O
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 9 days ago

            Not sure if I should disagree

        2. + 42.

  21. Sims
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    If mane gets banned he will be out until February because of afcon?

    1. Captain Vantastic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Why would he be banned?

      1. Licious Lizard
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        He hit Carroll during the game. Mark probably didn't see it.

      2. Sims
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        He struck a whu player

    2. The Tinkerman
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      If he is banned for 3, he will get 2 or 3 more games I think.. before AFCON.

    3. GHB
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Can't as got booked for it

      1. Licious Lizard
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        I don't think thitting Carroll was what he was booked for...

        1. GHB
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 9 days ago

          Oh really? Was busy as watching it and came straight after I thought

          1. Licious Lizard
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 9 days ago

            Not for that as I understood it..

            But he did talk to Mane fairly quickly afterwards, so not sure if he saw something.

            But I can't remember if FA can ban Mane IF the ref sees something, but doesn't realize how serious it was?

            1. GHB
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 9 days ago

              If it was for that he couldn't get banned as can't take retrospective action for something already seen. I know what you're saying depending how serious - but would open a can of worms

              1. Licious Lizard
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 9 days ago

                Okay thanks. What is the 4th ref informs the 1st ref about what happened afterwards? In this case let's say Mark had a talk with Mane about it afterwards, because he heard from the 4th ref about it, but couldn't really give the card afterwards.

                1. GHB
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 9 days ago

                  Well I still think it's a bit corrupt mate if I'm being honest. Like when Sergio got banned earlier in the season. The ref blatantly saw that then there was uproar and he denied seeing it.

                  1. Licious Lizard
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 9 days ago

                    Thanks. Yeah you might have a point.

                    Guess we'll see what happens.

      2. jurgenklopp.8
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        no he got booked for something else.

  22. cheeky_ash
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    West Ham have some tasty fixtures coming up....BUR HUL swa lei MNU CPL mid

    I think Payet could be essential. But I might take a punt on Carroll even though he's not starting today.

    1. Les Bleus
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Playing fast and loose with the word "essential" there.

      1. cheeky_ash
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

  23. The Overthinker
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Will there be a scoutcast for midweek?

    1. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Most likely

      1. The Overthinker
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Looking forward to it.
        How was your week?

  24. The Overthinker
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    RP

    My plan is to keep 2 Chelsea Def for 4gw
    Will get atleast 3 Cs out of 4.
    That's minimum 52 from 2 players for 4 gw

    3 Cs x2 = 18 x 2 = 36
    (90 mins played x 4 ) x2 = 16

    Total = 52 without bonuses, attacking returns

    Need some views on this.

    1. CravenA
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Good return if 3 shutouts but not 52.
      3 shutouts: 3x6x2=36 + 1 conceding game: 1x2x2=4

      1. The Overthinker
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Oh yes. My bad.
        Cheers

      2. The Overthinker
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Still 40 without bonuses and attacking returns is good

    2. myboycharlie
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Check your calculations CS are only worth 4 points not 6 points (it's 6 including 2 for minutes played)

      1. The Overthinker
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Yes. I calculated minutes played twice

  25. La Roja
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    How's this looking for -4? Have exact cash

    Firmino Mustafi âž¡ Payet Vertongen

    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      v good

    2. That Was Easy!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I don't think so, not for me. I can see Klopp putting Firmino back in a false 9 after this game and Mustafi/Arsenal can keep Everton out.

      1. La Roja
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        How's Mustafi gonna do that?

      2. Tomlette Greggs
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Mustafi is injured.

    3. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Might do the exact same transfers my only worrybwould be Vertonghen is on 4 YCs.

    4. Tomlette Greggs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      sound. go for it.

  26. Stinglikeabee
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Who is more nailed rojo or Jones?

    1. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I'd wait a game to be sure. Bailly nearly ready to start

      1. Stinglikeabee
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        I have mustafi and Lovern. Time isn't on my side I'm afraid.

    2. MartialMatas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      should be Jones

    3. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      50/50 as a United fan
      Both are competing equally but IMO Rojo is a natural leftie to maybe Jones is more insecure

      1. Stinglikeabee
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        I'm thinking if bailie comes back in he might push rojo to left back and keep Jones in as well but then I start worrying that smalling is going to come back and take a spot and then I start to worry about blind and Shaw. I might just for for Jose Fonte.

  27. Kermit Special
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Firmino owners UNITE!

    1. Kermit Special
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      What are we doing with him lads?

      1. The Overthinker
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Kicking him out for lallana/Antonio for a ft.
        He hasent don't. A single thing in last 4 gw to keep him

  28. bpz77
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Cresswell for the next few weeks ? Opinions ?

    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      yes i like

  29. Plymouth
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Thoughts on bringing in Carroll?

    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I'm contemplating it

    2. youknowho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Too much risk

    3. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Not guaranteed starts.

    4. BrockLanders
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Don't do it. He's ultimate level trolling

    5. Plymouth
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Progressively getting more minutes.. Might be a little to early

    6. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      He ll get injured the minute you get him in

  30. Spencer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Which move to do?

    A. Capoue -> Lallana (3-5-2)
    B. Wilson -> Origi (3-4-3)

    Heaton - Pickford
    Alonso - Brunt - Evans - Holebas - Amat
    Sanchez - Hazard - Sigurdsson - Allen
    Kane - Costa

    1. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      B

    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I think Origi is slightly better value so B

      1. Spencer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Thanks guys

    3. Bored Bear
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      i'd play wilson for next two home games i think. Save FT til wed?

      1. Spencer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Possibly, but Wilsons been such a disappointment for me. Feel like I need to get rid.