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11 December 2016 3338 comments
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The final match of Gameweek 15 sees Liverpool welcome West Ham United to Anfield in the 4.30pm kick-off.

Both Sadio Mane and Roberto Firmino are highly fancied against a Hammers defence that shipped five at home to Arsenal last weekend.

Mane has served up points in five of his six home outings, whilst Firmino will be looking to banish a three-match barren run and return to the form that has already seen him register 15 points in front of his own supporters on two occasions.

Divock Origi looks to score for the fourth successive match in all competitions to strengthen his claim as a mid-price festive frontman.

West Ham, meanwhile, have home encounters with Burnley and Hull followed by a trip to Swansea in the upcoming three Gameweeks.

We’ll be looking for signs of form from Dimitri Payet and the fit-again Michail Antonio, then, while big Andy Carroll is named amongst the subs against his former club, having emerged from the bench to net the Hammers’ consolation against Arsenal last time out.

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  1. wolves_simmo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Firmino out for which West Ham mid?

    A) Payet
    B) Antonio

    1. Carlton P
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      A) the assister
      B) the goal scorer
      B IMO if you want to brave the 4YC
      Antonios price more likely to shoot up if he fires

      1. wolves_simmo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Yeah it's the extra £2.4M too. When's the cut off for the 4 YC?

  2. Huge bulging net
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    What is the likeliness of Pedro completely losing his place to Willian? Looked key against City and another early swap for him today

    1. Demí
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Don;t think he'll lose his place but will get rotated in one of the next two

      1. Coaly
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Your view on Walcott missing out vs Everton or City?

    2. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Conte said he is Perfect for this system and he is imo.
      Think he will play as the regular for the whole season .
      Willian is a traditional winger , just can't see him fitting there long term , might get sold in the summer .

    3. Toure The Route
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      But might get rotated over December

  3. Carlton P
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Firmino >
    A) Antonio
    B) lallana

    > Alonso
    1) chambers 0ITB
    2) holebas .3ITB
    3) Evans .2ITB
    4) cedric .6ITB
    Looking at getting big Phil Jones at some point, so £ITB is relevant

  4. jimbobmij
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Firmino and Anichebe to Lallana and Origi. Opinions?

    1. Carlton P
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Sounds good to me

  5. Vinyl78LP
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Couple of minor tweaks to team just done

    Valencia/Vokes shipped out for Brunt/Rondon for 0 pts.

    Fancy Albion against Swansea to turn them over. Currently about 8k globally.

  6. ZakAFC_
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Take out Firmino/Redmond for a -4 or neither?

  7. lasmons
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Firmino + Benteke -> Kane + ....
    a> Son
    b> Lallana
    c> Antonio

  8. Twisted Saltergater
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Even Youtube can't make Origi look good.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BZ7bADc6dY

  9. JaydenLFC87
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Matip > Toby for free yay or nay???

    1. HamezMace
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I've just brought Toby in, and having a defender with (HUL) next to his name looks so good

    2. Here's Tom with the We…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Big yay!

  10. youknowho
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Heaton, Pickford
    Alonso, Morgan, Holebas, Amat, Love
    Snchez, Hazard, Firmino, Siggy, Capoue
    Kane, Defoe, Origi
    1.6 ITB
    1. Firmino > Payet
    2. Firmino > Ericksen
    3. Save

  11. New Article Posted
  12. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Last Man Standing GW15 🏆

    Safety score = 33
    Top score = 83
    LMS average = 45.06

    1505 : 129 eliminated
    1376 through to GW16
    Bottom 8% or at least 111 out next GW
    Congrats to all the survivors 🙂

    1. liiusions
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Survived with a -20 🙂

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        You were the -20 🙂

    2. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Wow thought with 36 I was gone for sure.

    3. Blame It On Rio-ddermorten
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Dang it! 36 points -4. If only I had captained literally anyone else than Firmino (with Heaton as the only exception). Oh well, there's always next year.

      Thanks for taking the time to host, TM!

      1. TorresMagic™
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Cheers and good luck for the rest of the season. 🙂

        1. Blame It On Rio-ddermorten
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 9 days ago

          Thanks, you too!

  13. Evs
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    • 16 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Austin out for 3 months it seems.

    1. TorresMagic™
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      • 16 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Snail mail?

      1. Evs
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        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Im just going to state the bleeding obvious from here on in.

        Mickey Teary Ann is injured.

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Thank god I did the Kelchi transfer for a hit last week or I would have ended with + 3 points .

    3. S.Kuqi
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      First Doosra and now Evs is here....whats happening 😯

      1. Evs
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        I may frequent these shores a little more again...

      2. Geoff
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        • 13 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Doosra is back?

  14. andy85wsm
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    • 15 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    On the hit train again....

    Capoue and Nacho to Okaka and Antonio

    Proper knee jerky stuff but it means Can would become my 5th mid, would have Antonio for Burnley and Hull and Okaka has okay fixtures after City (who are leaky anyway) - thoughts?

    Too knee jerky?

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Those hits are so moreish.

    2. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Where will Antonio play?
      (Yes btw, I think it's a tad knee-jerky)

    3. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      No way.

    4. Hurricane Gilbert
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Too knee jerky indeed. Okaka has had one great game. And Antonio could play at RWB soon again.

    5. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Yeah far too jerky.

      If I would have proposed those moves to you on Friday you would have vomited.

      Give Nacho a chance at Watford. Also I'd rather get Payet in than Antonio. With Carrol back Anontio won't be playing up top and could even find himself at RB/RWB.

    6. Professor Abel X
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Too knee jerky

    7. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Capoue needs to go imo, and he will drop tonight as well, so its a yes from me.
      Im considering something similar. Firmino and Nacho -> Antonio and Costa. Would you do it?

    8. pax888
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Massive NO from me.

    9. JAC THE CAT
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Yes

      Strap it up

    10. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Yeah fair enough....

      Now have Lovren and Can flagged, probably have to just hope to get through midweek and take a -4 or something for 3 transfers

      1. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        What do you have in the bank to upgrade Capoue with?

        1. andy85wsm
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          • 15 Years
          9 years, 9 days ago

          1m but a little wary of spending too much. Philips probably not great long term right?

          1. Smurf
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 9 days ago

            I'd say he is. Seems very involved in West Brom's attacks and I think he will easily outscore other similarly priced players such as Capoue, Can, Gundogan & Allen.

      2. Smurf
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Considering he has Swansea why not Can or Capoue to Phillips?

      3. Chris_H
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        You've got Alonso & Brunt in defence with good fixtures, just sell Lovren for a def of your choice.

    11. Crystal
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      That's last weeks points

    12. Chris_H
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      So you're swapping one Watford player for another & one player with a good fixture on paper for another.

      For a -4.

      No.

    13. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      when carroll came on, antonio went wide. The commentators said carroll was being rested. I think your move is actually the worst idea you've ever had. Don't take that badly you've done good moves but come on look at it again

    14. Somalion
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Probably a touch knee jerky.

      But I was extremely impressed with Okaka (maybe more from a general football perspective than FPL) and Antonio is a better pick than Capoue...

  15. Az
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    I finally own Alonso!
    Hope i'm not too late to the party 🙂

  16. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Has Payet proved himself as a viable midfielder option?

    1. Feed tha Sheep
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I don't think he is threatening enough from open play but obviously has set pieces

      1. Toure The Route
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        This
        Doesn't give too much goal threat from open play so no for me
        Eriksen has better form , set pieces and a better team around him and is cheaper .

    2. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I think antonio is the way to go in an out of form west ham side mainly just because he is better value and west ham are unpredictable of late. Payet gets mentioned on here alot as most people are swapping firmino for him and thus have cash to burn

  17. Sims
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Firmino and Huth

    To

    Walker and Siggy

    Worth -4?

  18. ryacoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Can any West Ham fans shed some light on the kind of minutes we can expect from Carroll in the near future? Think he might start midweek and then get a 30 minute cameo at the weekend?

    1. Leaf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I agree with you

      60 mins midweek , 60 or 30 at weekend

    2. Karan_G14
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I'm thinking and hoping 60 mins both matches. Not a West Ham fan though!

  19. Feed tha Sheep
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Nacho owners what's the consensus?Im keeping I still think he will start...thoughts?

  20. camarozz
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    So if it's not Llorente for Austin then who? 0.1m itb.

    Origi didn't look great despite the goal.

    1. ryacoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Origi and Carroll the other contenders.

    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Look up at the big green box above 😉

    3. Hakchak
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Get Llorente, Benteke would be the best if you can stretch to that?

  21. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Anything better than Austin -> Origi here?

    Fer is another major concern but I'm not sure there's anything worth a 4 pointer in that price range.

    Bank 0.0m, 1FT

    Cech
    Clyne, Stones, Nyom
    Sanchez, Hazard, Firmino, Fer
    Costa, Kane, Austin

    Pickford, Amat, Capoue, Kone

    1. Over Midwicket
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Stones out

  22. WE ARE RANGERS
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Firmino to...

    A payet
    B eriksen
    C alli
    D a n other

    I have Sanchez, hazard and Siggy

    1. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      B

  23. Camp No No
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    What happened to Lovren?

    1. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      And where the heck is Can?

      1. Hakchak
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 9 days ago

        Minor Knee injury

        1. Camp No No
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 9 days ago

          Splendid. 🙁

    2. Hakchak
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Hammy

  24. WUSS
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Mane to Payet for a hit?
    worth it?

    1. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Hell no

    2. Hakchak
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      No way worth a hit

  25. lordkippe
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    GO 3-5-2 with

    Sanchez - Haz - Firmino - SIggy - SNoddy

    Kane - Costa

    Or 3-4-3 with

    Hazard - Payet/alli - Siggy - Walcott

    Kane - Costa - Nacho

    1. lordkippe
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      a bit affraid sanchez will get a rest for xmas. I can improve my team without him or just get him right away

    2. WUSS
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      343 with snoddy as first sub

  26. fedolefan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Sanchez 11.7m and owned by 34.7%. He'll squeeze out every price rise possible because of how difficult it is to fit him in. Think he'll be matching Aguero's price soon enough.

  27. mad_beer ✅
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Is it madness to do Mane to Eriksen for -4?

    1. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Yes

    2. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      And Mane is the weakest link in your team, how? 13, 3, 6, 11, 8 in his last 5.

    3. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      I wouldn't rush into that. Not convinced by Erikssen at all...

    4. John Nerdelbaum
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      God yes!

  28. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    He said he had a cramp and in the ear of the medical department, it was a hamstring issue. It was in the region. Dejan wanted to carry on but we cannot take a risk in this situation. Hopefully we took him [off] early enough.
    http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/first-team/246414-jurgen-klopp-on-west-ham-draw-league-position-and-lovren-injury

    1. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Thanks!

  29. MidTableFantasy
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Foster - Grant
    Cedric - Alonso - Evans - Holebas - Amat
    Hazard - Firmino - Sanchez - Walcott - Zaha
    Anichebe - Kane - Costa

    After the midweek games I'm thinking of using my saved FT and doing:
    a) Firmino + Anichebe -> Antonio + Origi
    b) Firmino + Walcott -> Antonio + Mane
    c) Or just keep squad as is/defensive swap

    What do you reckon?

  30. Giovanni Giorgio
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 9 days ago

    Clyne ---> Azpi
    Y/N?

    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Y

    2. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 9 days ago

      Y