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2 January 2017 3016 comments
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A hectic afternoon with points aplenty will hopefully continue with the tea-time kick-off at the London Stadium.

With Sergio Aguero emerging from the bench to return a goal and potential bonus points at the Etihad, our attention now switches to the red side of Manchester and their own talismanic goalscorer – Zlatan Ibrahimovic.

Heavily backed by FPL managers once again, the Swede takes on the Hammers with 24.1% of the Gameweek 20 armbands strapped to his bicep.

Elsewhere, Jose Mourinho recalls Phil Jones and Marcos Rojo at centre-back as two of five changes to his line-up; Henrikh Mkhitaryan earns his second successive start.

For West Ham, Andy Carroll drops to the bench having started the last four Gameweeks. Mark Noble and Andre Ayew also drop out as Pedro Obiang, Manuel Lanzini and Sofiane Feghouli earn starts.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Syd.
    • 17 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Does Mike Dean use a different rule book than any other referee

    He should be sacked as a PL referee ASAP

    1. HamezMace
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Not really, going into a challenge with both feet off the ground is usually seen as 'reckless' or 'dangerous' and more often than not is a red card offence

      1. Syd.
        • 17 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        In that case Jones also should have been sent off

        1. HamezMace
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Jones didn't have both feet off the ground, and got to the ball first

          1. Lawrø
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            I haven't seen the challenge but when discussing potentially reckless and dangerous tackle whoever got the ball first is irrelevant.

            1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              this is true

            2. HamezMace
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              Yeah, sure, when you've seen it you'll understand why it's being discussed.
              Two feet off the ground (in a jumping action) equally a red card, 9 times out of 10

              1. HamezMace
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 7 months ago

                Equals*

          2. Syd.
            • 17 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            Are you Mike Deans mother?

            1. HamezMace
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              Yes, and Mourinhos wife.

              Or it's as simple as this; jumping into a tackle with two feet off the ground is a red card.

              You don't have to break someone's leg to get a red card.

      2. the axolotl
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        that's just nonsense. people saying "both feet off the ground" as if that proves a point of some sort. it's as bad as "there was contact"

        1. Neeskens Under Matip
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Contact after you clear the ball is acceptable? Fengouli is obviously not match fit, crap touch, tried to make up for it by diving in...

          1. the axolotl
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            every single sliding tackle involves "both feet off the ground". you have both feet off the ground while running ffs. it's just the phrase i'm arguing against. didn't even see the challenge.

            1. HamezMace
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              Ok, jumping into a tackle with both feet, after the ball has gone.

  2. Malkmus
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Evening all, help needed!! 1ft, 2.9 itb

    Foster - Jak
    Vert - Alonso - Holebas - Ake - Amat
    Haz - Sanchez - Lallana - Phillips - De Roon
    Costa - Ibra - Rondon

    A - Rondon to Lukaku
    B - Phillips to Alli
    C - Rondon to Defoe + 1.8
    D - Phillips to pogba

    Thinking A personally. Ta

    1. v12w12
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      C for me

    2. Kip
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      A or stick

    3. MTPockets
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Don't think you need to sell rondon or phillips.

    4. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      C

    5. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      C

    6. HazardAGuess
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Whatever you do, don't get rid of Phillips, you mad man.

    7. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Haz to Alli and Rondon to Lukaku for me. Like the balance of the team then.

      1. Malkmus
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Cheers all. Losing Phillips seems crazy indeed, like diesels suggestion there

  3. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Mike Dean is making up for Lee Mason
    Penalty for United in the post

    1. BENOIT
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      I'm sure that will be of real consolation to West Ham

  4. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Mike dean needs to be put under review

    He is absolutely shocking

    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Look who playing though. Are you shocked?

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        jeez, stop whinging about Utd.
        We get it, you have an inferiority complex

        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 17 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          I'll do what I want my friend. A lot more to come.

          1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 7 months ago

            spamming that the world isn't fair doesn't help your cause though

            1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
              • 17 Years
              9 years, 7 months ago

              Embrace it

    2. Neeskens Under Matip
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      He will be shocking if he tries to "make up for it" . So we should all bet on a man u red card or a West ham penalty!

  5. Malcolm Tucker for England …
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!*

    *wanted to join in the moaning and wailing

    1. Gareth nose
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      kiss my sweaty balls you fat f**k

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        lol 😀

  6. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    £13.8 to spend on 2 fronters.
    rest is Eriksen Sanchez Hazard Philips Ibra Costa
    Pls help

    1. Kip
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      De roon + Lukaku

    2. Hooky
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Snoddy and Defoe

    3. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Snodgrass and Defoe

    4. Funkyav
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      De Roon and Lukaku

    5. Atimis
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Options without benching in the future 😀

    6. Atimis
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Thanks for replies !!

  7. RoysCallerAnne
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    aaargh, Aguero drops to 2 bps

    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Even with winning goal baps?

      1. RoysCallerAnne
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Don't know but he dropped from 27 to 25

        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 17 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Yer he will get 3 for winning goal I think. So he will be on 3bp. I think that's right anyway

    2. PÍE
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      That's annoying, but still pretty happy with his haul after he started on bench

  8. FPLtfs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Gutted for that rc as an Antonio owner. Moved further down now.

  9. Richd
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    I have a dream front 8, but my defence is woeful.

    Alonso, Holebas, Amat, Taylor and Pieters

    1. My Name Is Prince
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      What's that front 8?

      1. Richd
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Hazard, Sanchez, Lallana, Phillips, De Roon
        Ibra, Aguero, Benteke

        Need to free some cash from somewhere for that defence haha

    2. Sjaugen
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Beyond bad defense

      1. Richd
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Yep. It's the result of gradual downgrading to build the front 8 up. TV is over 105 so it has worked from that perspective.

  10. Klopp For The Kopps 😆
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Origi nailed now after the Sturridge injury ?

    1. PÍE
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Don't think nailed, esp. with Coutinho prob back soon

      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Lallana Henderson Can/Wijnaldum
        Coutinho Origi Firmino

        Sturridge injured, Mane at AFCON.

        1. Gareth nose
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 7 months ago

          Or

          Can Henderson Wijnldum
          Lallana Firmino Coutinho

  11. n-doggg
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Kun on 2 or 3 bonus?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      2

      1. n-doggg
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        Does he get winning goal points or is that already baked in to the bps

    2. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      2 atm hopefully it rises to 3

  12. Coaly
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Siggy to Phillips or Cedric to Gibson/Friend?

    1. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Siggy to Philips

    2. v12w12
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Phillips

  13. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Boring match.

  14. TOFO
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    For next GW :

    Pogba to :
    A - Alli
    B - Sterling
    C - Pedro
    D - Willian
    E - Walcott

    1. Coaly
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Keep Pog

    2. v12w12
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      A

  15. 824545201
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Nyom 2 bonus points.

    Phillips only 1.

    The bonus system needs to be revamped asap.

  16. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    So much for the game winning bonus

    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Has it already been added then?

      He was on 27 so if it's added he must have gone down a fair bit

  17. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Dean didn't have a happy New Year's

    Payet YC

  18. Marson01
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    How is NYOM on for 2bps? He came on after 55 minutes and got no assists and didnt score?

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Clean sheet and tackles / interceptions

    2. Jake Donahue
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      He came on after 29 minutes and kept a clean sheet

      1. Marson01
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        ahhhh my bad, thought he came on after half time, makes sense now then! double west brom of brunt and foster didnt go to plan defense wise

  19. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Payet YC

  20. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    I am a United fan but Mike Dean is taking the piss out of West Ham badly here

    1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      not a utd fan, i agree though

  21. fedolefan
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Ibra please!!

  22. v12w12
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Depending on tomorrow. What would you do with this team? 1FT 1.5 ITB

    Heaton/Pic
    Prodl/Alonso/McAuley/Amat/Friend
    Haz/Sanchez/Phillips/Allen/Lallana
    Costa/Ibra/Rondon

    A: Friend to Baines
    B: Lallana to Alli
    C: Rondon to Defoe

    Leaning towards C. Cheers

  23. davies
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Which?

    A) Lallana & Barnes (352)
    B) Capoue & Defoe (343 - will get Coutinho when he's back)

    1. YankeeDoodleDandy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      A

    2. Sandy Ravage
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      B - Defoe should get something against Stoke

    3. v12w12
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      B

  24. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    gonna be a long evening as a united fan...to draw 0-0 or loose 1-nil smash n grab...

  25. SUPERMAN
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Aguero down to two baps.

    1. Richd
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Oh bumholes.

  26. Zebras
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Another unnecessary card by Dean. Such trash. Even as a united fan, I'm in shock of these decisions

  27. Ginkapo FPL
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    OM NYOM NYOM NYOM

    The Reverse Guy Demel. And CS Baps to boot

  28. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    Nylon up to 2 baps 😮

    Scenes....

    1. Jafooli
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      *Nyom

    2. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      mmm,
      nylon baps.

      1. Jafooli
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 7 months ago

        😛

  29. Sandy Ravage
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    any chance of Lovren bps?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      no

    2. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 7 months ago

      Slim to absolutely zero

  30. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 7 months ago

    there's going to be a riot at London stadium if this carries on