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Did you think your summer would be dull without fantasy football? Fear not. The developers of Fantasy Premier League have launched a brand new game called Eliteserien Fantasy.

The game will feature the Norwegian top divison. The site is currently only in Norwegian but it is fairly easy to register and use if you are used to FPL.

The concept and rules are the same as FPL, the only differences being no chips and there’s a  ‘man in the stand’  for bonus points.

The season will have 30 Gameweeks between April and November. A third of the season will be played during the off-season in FPL so this game could soften the summer blow for Fantasy Footy junkies.

Already 58 players have  joined the FFS league, including FPL legend Ville Rönkä. The league code is: 3769-1041

In this article I will take a look at the 16 teams and the players to keep an eye on.

Rosenborg

Having won ‘the double’ two seasons in a row, there is no doubt who is the gigantic fish in this pond. Both league titles have been comfortable with a tally of 69 points, an average of staggering 2.3 points per game. The Rosenborg domination is set to continue with the acquisition of Nicklas Bendtner (12.5). Not only is the insane Dane the most expensive player in the game, he currently also sits in over half the teams.

Mixed results and a few injuries during the pre season, there remains uncertainty around the form of their key players. Rosenborg meet Brann in a face off between last year’s top two teams on March 29. This may give us some answers, or pose more questions as it will be the first of four games Rosenborg play in 10 days. This fixture congestion could be a good reason to overlook the pricey Bendtner for now.

Top 3 targets: Mike Jensen (10.5 MID), Fredrik Midtsjo (8.5 MID), Nicklas Bendtner (12.5 FWD)

Brann

After a shock relegation despite being title contenders in 2014, Brann bounced straight back up the following year. They used that momentum and enjoyed a successful return to the top division, eventually finishing second. Brann’s excellent defence is expected to do well this season as well, especially as Piotr Leciejewski (5.5) might be the best goalkeeper in the league. Early investment in Brann players could pay dividends as their opening few fixtures seem favourable.

Top 3 targets: Fredrik Haugen (9.0 MID), Vito Wormgoor (5.5 DEF), Torgeir Børven (9.0 FWD)

Odd

Starting last season with six consecutive clean sheets, Odd laid the foundations for what turned out to be a third place finish and Europa League qualification. The last 24 games only saw three additional clean sheets but Odd will nonetheless provide excellent defensive options. Espen Ruud (6.5) might prove to be the most essential player in the game. To go along with his nine clean sheets, the right back also managed five goals and eight assists last season.

Top 3 targets: Espen Ruud (6.5 DEF), Fredrik Nordkvelle (9.0 MID), Sondre Rossbach (5.5 GK)

Haugesund

Expect the unexpected when Haugesund are playing. One season they battle for the Europa League places, the next they fight for survival. Given they finished fourth last season, this year their assets may be best avoided! Defensively Haugesund are not much to write home about. Their midfielders have to bear the burden if they are to replicate last year’s form.

Top 3 targets: Haris Hajradinovic (7.5 MID), Erik Huseklepp (8.5 MID), Ibrahim Shuaibu (5.0 FWD)

Molde

Ole Gunnar Solskjær’s second period as Molde manager has failed to reach the heights of his first stint at the club thus far. Back then he led Molde to back-to-back titles, whilst his latest reign has resulted in 6th and 5th placed finishes. With a wealth of options in every position, picking the right Molde players could be a minefield. Solskjær’s preferred tactic seems to be resting players from time to time. Heavy investment in Molde’s assets is probably best avoided to start with.

Top 3 targets: Bjorn Sigurdarson (9.0 FWD), Sander Svendsen (8.5 MID), Mattias Mostrom (6.5 MID)

Sarpsborg

A stable mid table team for the last couple of seasons, Sarpsborg normally go about their business quietly. They do not concede many but they do not score that many either. In fact, their most prolific attacker finished 40th in terms of attacking returns last season. Big things are therefore expected of the attacking minded Krepin Diatta (6.0), an easy on the eye Senegalese U20 international who arrived last month. A Sarpsborg defender could be a must have as they managed 13 clean sheets in the last campaign, with nine of them coming on home soil.

Top 3 targets: Krepin Diatta (6.0 MID), Sigurd Rosted (5.5 DEF), Jonas Lindberg (5.5 FWD)

Strømsgodset

After being a top side since the beginning of the decade, Strømsgodset found themselves finishing mid table last season. They produce fluent attacking play and are a joy to watch, especially at home. Jonathan Parr (6.0) provides us with a potential OOP option. Listed as a defender, the former Crystal Palace and Ipswich left back played a lot on the left wing last autumn. The signing of the experienced left back Stian Ringstad (5.5) could mean a permanent shift to the wing for Parr.

Top 3 targets: Jonathan Parr (6.0 DEF), Marcus Pedersen (10.5 FWD), Lars Vilsvik (6.0 DEF)

Viking

There is not much buzz around Viking at the moment. Kwesi Appiah (7.0) has been signed on loan from Crystal Palace. Despite only being 26, this will be the striker’s sixteenth club in his senior career. Whether he can settle in and finally make it count remains to be seen. With an unfavourable set of fixtures to start the season, overlooking Viking options for the opening might be the best solution.

Top 3 targets: Kwesi Appiah (7.0 FWD), Julian Ryerson (4.5 DEF) Samuel Adegbenro (7.5 MID)

Aalesund

Highest goalscorer from last season still in the league this term is Mos (8.5). He will undoubtably be key this year as well but he is not the only threat Aalesund pose. Most of their goals in the pre season have come from set pieces. Centre back Mantyla has scored three goals without even starting a game but it is another centre back stealing the limelight. Daniel Gretarsson (5.0) has also scored three goals from his four starts this winter. However, Aalesund do concede a lot of goals so any defensive investment has to be purely because of their set piece threat.

Top 3 targets: Mos (8.5 FWD), Edwin Gyasi (7.5 MID), Daniel Gretarsson (5.0 DEF)

VÃ¥lerenga

Being the only representation from the capital, Vålerenga have failed to live up to expectations for a good few years. This season they have hired the services of former Celtic manager Ronny Deila. An attacking minded leader, Deila made his name at Strømsgodset where he took the team to league glory in 2013. After years of struggle to get permission and finances to build their own stadium on their side of the city, Vålerenga will finally be moving to their new home mid season. This will likely give them a solid boost throughout the season.

Top 3 targets: Ghayas Zahid (10.5 MID), Mohammed Abdellaoue (9.5 FWD), Markus Nakkim (5.0 DEF)

Sogndal

Gilbert Koomson (7.5) was the only assister in the league to reach double figures last season. However, that is a steep price tag for a player in a team that most likely will be in for a relegation battle. Sogndal had a good defence last season but the latest results in pre season do not exactly look encouraging. Still, if they can replicate some of that defensive form then they have several decent budget options in their team.

Top 3 targets: Matias Dyngeland (4.5 GK), Bjørn Utvik (4.5 DEF), Gilbert Koomson (7.5 MID)

Lillestrøm

Celebrating their 100 years anniversary, Lillestrøm will be hoping they avoid the dogfight this time around. They were dead and buried with five games to play but managed to survive by collecting 11 points from those games. Most of the players are very generously priced, probably reflected by last year’s finish. Lillestrøm should be competing for a place in the upper half of the table. If they manage to do that then there are a few potential bargains in their squad. Daniel Fernandes (4.0) has impressed in pre season, if he can nail done a starting spot then that provides us with an excellent budget goalkeeper.

Top 3 targets: Daniel Fernandes (4.0 GK), Bajram Ajeti (6.5 FWD), Chigozie Udoji (6.0 MID)

Tromsø

Defensively Tromsø are not a good unit. The onus will be on their attacking play. People will recognise Morten Gamst Pedersen (5.5) from his time at Blackburn. After struggling with injuries last season, the set piece specialist is set to claim a place in the centre of midfield. Some calmness in the middle of the park may be exactly what Tromsø need as their passing accuracy of 68.7 % was the worst in the league.

Top 3 targets: Aron Sigurdarson (6.5 MID), Sloboan Vuk (7.0 FWD), Morten Gamst Pedersen (5.5 MID)

Stabæk

Stabæk were favourites to go down in 2015 but thanks to the heroics of Bob Bradley they managed to finish third. During that summer they lost top scorer Adama Diomande to Hull, whilst Bradley left before the 2016 season. Stabæk barely recovered from those losses and somehow just about managed to survive. They are in for another tough season but they do have a couple of cheap prospects to keep an eye on.

Top 3 targets: Moussa Njie (5.5 MID), Luc Kassi (6.0 MID), Hanche-Olsen (4.5 DEF)

Kristiansund

Thirteen years after the club was formed, Kristiansund won the second tier and gained promotion to the top division for the first time. The promotion campaign was thanks to a good defence and a red hot striker. Daouda Bamba (6.5) scored 20 and assisted twice in 28 games. The Ivorian is young and fearless, and is sure to be amongst the goals also in this league.

Top 3 targets: Daouda Bamba (6.5 FWD), Aliou Coly (4.5 DEF), Sean McDermott (4.0 GK)

Sandefjord

Also gaining promotion prior to this season, Sandefjord are favourites to go straight back down. Genuine fantasy options are therefore far and few between, however they might provide a couple of bench fodder options. Seven defeats and no clean sheets in nine pre season games tells they are in for a very rough ride.

Top 3 targets: Erik Mjelde (6.0 MID), Andre Sødlund (4.5 MID), Flamur Kastrati (6.0 FWD)

  1. Lawrø
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Who to start chaps?

    A) Shuaibu
    B) Albech

    1. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      B imo

    2. Creedey
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Is Albech nailed on?

      1. Lawrø
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Not 100%

    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      B

      1. Lawrø
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks guys

  2. UnitedFan
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Just did Zahid + 6.5 striker > Moa + Sigurdarson + 1.0 + 0.5 already itb.
    Where should that 1.5 mil go?

    Fernandes
    Ruud - Hedenstad - Vilsvik - Utvik
    Nordkvelle - Midtsjo - Koomson - Sigurdarson
    Moa - Bendtner

    McDermott - Moe - Valles - Shuaibu.

    Want to play that 4 at the back.

    1. Speédy
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      sell nordkvelle instead of zahid

      1. UnitedFan
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I want an Odd attacker though. Would you sell him if that's the case?

    2. MTPockets
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Upgrade 5th mid? I've gone off idea of 4.5m as don't know enough (anything) about league to risk mids that don't play. Even Valles only got 16 games last season in lower league.
        Do you want McDermott, or just for the saving?

        1. UnitedFan
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Who's the best 5.0 mid then for the bench fodder role? And not necessarily. Is he even nailed?

          1. MTPockets
              8 years, 8 months ago

              I had Sarr (molde) but binned him too. Going cheaper in defence instead as Lundstrom/Wormgoor both doubts.
              But probably best ignoring me - could have Helland, Svendsen, Bendter by 4pm tomorrow the way this is going.

              1. UnitedFan
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                Thanks. Is Sarr nailed? I might get him as 2-3 points off the bench is all I'm looking for from 5th mid.

                1. MTPockets
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    He played 28 games last season (2G/1A). That's all I know about him, except 1G in 5 friendlies.

          2. Niemi
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Utvik to Albeck and Valles to Njie. More flexibility, could see some rotation over the first gameweeks.

            Not sold on Nordkvelle at 9

        2. FPL Sergeant
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Hi folks what do you think of my draft so far:-
          Fernandes (McDermott)
          Ruud, Parr, Reginiussen (Utvik, Moe)
          Svendsen, Midtsjo, Zekhnini, Koomsen (Johansen)
          Bendtner, Mos, Bamba

          1. Creedey
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Nice. You think Svendsen will start up front?

            1. FPL Sergeant
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              He could do, Ole seems to like him there, LW or Sub. Might see if theres a better option.

              1. Creedey
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                Cheers!!

          2. UnitedFan
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Wouldn't get Svendsen. Ole rotates them too much. Bamba to Shuaibu so you can do Mos to Moa.

            1. FPL Sergeant
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Moa has scored 8 goals since 2013. Mos has 30 since 2013. I'll keep my eye to Moa but I prefer Mos to start with. Ill look at Svendsen again though.

              1. UnitedFan
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                Moa only 8 goals since 2013? That doesn't sound right. Are you sure?

              2. MTPockets
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Another 8 in this pre-season though (fwiw).

                  1. UnitedFan
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    Is that stat right before this pre-season?

                    1. FPL Sergeant
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      8 years, 8 months ago

                      1 in 12 for Stuttgart & 7 in 22 for Valerenga.
                      Prior to that its good. But its been a lean 4 yrs...

                      1. UnitedFan
                        • 10 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        Ah, thanks

                    2. MTPockets
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        Yes. Injuries apparently.

                        1. UnitedFan
                          • 10 Years
                          8 years, 8 months ago

                          Ah I see, thanks

            2. Creedey
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Are there any nailed on 4,5 midfielders? Heintz?

              1. UnitedFan
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                Valles the most likely. Defensie mid though so he'll only come on with 2-3 points from the bench. But that's all you want from a fodder anyway

                1. Creedey
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Thanks!!

              2. MTPockets
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Don't think so. Valles, Johansen seemed to get most games last season.

                • RamaJama
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Sørli, played pre season and yesterday, a bit attacking

              3. Pep says
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                G2g Eliteserien?

                McDermott
                Ruud Vilsvik Coly
                Helland Nije Koomson Danielson Midtsjø
                Pederson (K) Mao (V)

                Fernandes Lindberg Ryerson Moe

                1. Team Cruel
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Replace Zedong mate.

                  1. Pep says
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    Who now?

                    1. Team Cruel
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 10 Years
                      8 years, 8 months ago

                      Mao. He died decades ago!

                2. UnitedFan
                  • 10 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Solid team. Not familiar with Danielsen though.

                  1. bench boost for every gamew…
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    Danielsen is penalty taker for Viking and have freekicks and corners, but have a tendency to pick up cards and plays in central midfield. Sigurdarson (Tromsø) probably better value, for instance.

                3. bench boost for every gamew…
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Midfield is spectacular, but keep in mind that Helland is quite injury prone. Maybe too much with both Helland and Mitdsjø, but could work out well. Could Dyngeland instead of McDermott be an option? Both him and Coly is playing for a team that will concede a lot. Same goes for Ryerson and Moe, so perhaps Amundsen (LSK) for one of them? Attack is good. Pedersen a little bit pricey but is a good option.

                  Good luck

              4. UnitedFan
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                What would you prioritise?

                A) Nordkvelle (no other Odd attacker)
                B) Zahid (already have Moa)

                Currently on A

                1. MrKlin of Norway
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Zahid for GW1, since Nordkvelle is playing away vs. Rosenborg

                2. MTPockets
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    B would have got more G/A points 3 years in a row.

                  • bench boost for every gamew…
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    Zahid

                  • Niemi
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    Sander Svendsen

                  • UnitedFan
                    • 10 Years
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    Thanks all

                3. MALDINI'S EYES!
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  @team cruel

                  Thanks for all the work and help you are putting into this its much appreciated. Legend mate.

                  1. _Make
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    Yes amazing stuff. Cheers.

                4. MTPockets
                    8 years, 8 months ago

                    Should have asked already, but are all points allocated the same way/magnitude as FPL?

                    1. MrKlin of Norway
                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 8 months ago

                      Yeh, only diference you'll find is the lack of chips (and how bonus points are given).

                      You'll want to be johnny-on-the-spot with your transfers though, price changes will be more prominent with so many fewer managers in play.

                      1. MTPockets
                          8 years, 8 months ago

                          Thanks. Don't really like the chips anyway. Back in the day...
                          Good point on transfers/managers. Will be interesting to see how they deal with that.

                      2. bench boost for every gamew…
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        Bonus points given by experts, so a little bit more random in a way, but that means also that it could be players that normally don´t get points in FPL has a better chance, for example a player in the mould of Kanté has better chance of getting points. Let´s say a defensive midfielder is absolutely dominating a game but is lacking goal involvement as in assist or goal he could very well collect 3 bonus point. And we often see that a forward who doesn´t do anything besides scoring, gets bonus, that isn´t necessary been given. Hope that it clearing it up a little

                        1. MTPockets
                            8 years, 8 months ago

                            That's great cheers.

                      3. Hurricane Gilbert
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        Play Heaton or Pickford?

                      4. Niemi
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        The teams in Eliteserien have their trainings open for the public, so the lineups isn't as secret prior to the gameweek as it is in the Premier League.

                        A few lineups I've managed to pick up from people that have been at the training and from people with knowledge within the clubs (of course there might be changes, but unlikely IMO)

                        Molde

                        Linde
                        Remmer - Gregersen - Gabrielsen - K. Rindarøy
                        Strand - Hestad - Sarr - Brustad
                        Svendsen - Sigurdarson

                        Odd

                        Rossbach
                        Ruud - Hagen - Semb - Grøgaard
                        Berg - Oldrup Jensen - Nordkvelle
                        Zekhnini - Occean - Riski

                        Lillestrøm

                        Fernandes
                        Megalvis - Kind Bendiksen - Amundsen - Haakestad
                        Knudzon - Matthew - Krogstad - Rafn
                        Ajeti - Malec

                        Kristiansund

                        McDermott, Coly, Bamba (only 3 you would want from that team) all starting. Stokke starting as well. Lekaj likely to be benched, Sørli (4.5) might get a start.

                        Will post if I find more info.

                        Erton and Diatta have got permission to play this weekend as well, but not likely to start I think.

                        1. Bunk Moreland
                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                          • 10 Years
                          8 years, 8 months ago

                          So Origi may not start?

                          1. Niemi
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 8 months ago

                            No, he's not starting. Fernandes was expected to start as well.

                            1. Bunk Moreland
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 10 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              K, cheers! 0,5 saved then. 🙂

                            2. Bunk Moreland
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 10 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Do you think 4-4-2 is viable Niemi? I looked at the spreadsheet and defenders were scoring very well, plenty of goals and assists from them.

                              1. Niemi
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                It's viable, I'm starting with a 4-4-2

                        2. MTPockets
                            8 years, 8 months ago

                            Svendsen starting then. No Mikalsen, but Melgalvis playing for 4.5m

                            1. Niemi
                              • 11 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Mikalsen is starting. I meant Kind Mikalsen, not Kind Bendiksen! Kind Bendiksen plays for Sandefjord.

                              Megalvis, Amundsen and Haakestad all 4.5.

                              1. MTPockets
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Ta. Svendsen seems very good value for a mid then.

                                  1. Niemi
                                    • 11 Years
                                    8 years, 8 months ago

                                    Yes, but basically everyone at Molde is prone to rotation. I'm taking the risk though with Svendsen.

                                • Niemi
                                  • 11 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Megalvis probably the best pick. 6g3a from 28 matches last year and 2g5a from 30 matches in 2015. Not in Eliteserien though, but in OBOS ligaen (second tier).

                                  Haakenstad came from the third tier in Norway, so I don't have a lot of stats on him. Apparently scored 4 goals last year, but I don't know in how many matches (and number of assists).

                                  Both unproven in Eliteserien, but supposedly attacking full backs. Not sure how attacking Lillestrøm will allow their full backs to be.

                                  Amundsen stays back at corners I've heard, while Mikalsen (5.0) goes up.

                                  1. MTPockets
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      Yeah I read your previous comments, so had a look into them. Problem for me is doubling-up with Fernandes, otherwise could make okish rotation with another cheap def (to use money elsewhere, like on a mid playing upfront).

                                      1. Niemi
                                        • 11 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Yeah, I'm not doubling up as I have Fernandes as well. Might get one of them later if they prove they are actually able to keep a clean sheet.

                              2. Aaaatsu
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 9 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                No Hussain for Molde ??

                                1. Niemi
                                  • 11 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Nope

                              3. VS10_
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Nice, keep them coming, 🙂

                            2. Chucky
                              • 12 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              RMT
                              Rossbach
                              Vilsvik Granli Toivio
                              Hussain Helland Nguen Hajradin
                              Appiah Bendtner Gytkjaer

                              Don't know what am I doing at all 😆

                              1. VS10_
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Look above for the Molde xi and Toivio. One of the few players I know. Great on free kicks, but defensively being a bit shaky recently and hasn't played much for Molde in pre-season. Gytkjaer is the brother of last season's top scorer, only popular in the game because of that. Granli won't play. No idea about the bench also.

                                1. Chucky
                                  • 12 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Thanks vs10

                            3. Bunk Moreland
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 10 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Any thoughts on my team, should they all start or are anyone not in the first 11?

                              Origi
                              Ruud - Vilsvik - Reginiussen - Parr
                              Zekhnini - Huseklepp - Nordkvelle - Trondsen
                              Moa (K) - Sigurdarson

                              Dyngeland Bamba Sødlund Moe

                              1. Speédy
                                • 9 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                origi wont start,get fernandes,use the 0.5 for reginiussen - hedenstad
                                dont like the vilsvik-parr double up,get wormgoor/rosted instead
                                no rosenborg attackers will hurt you

                                1. FPL Sergeant
                                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                  • 16 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Wormgoor may be doubtful for Sunday.

                              2. VS10_
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Going with 3 Odd and 1 Rosenborg looks like madness, but if the upset will happen, it's week 1. Long term 3 Odd could be great, but 1 RBK not so much.

                              3. Bunk Moreland
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Cheers, I appreciate it a lot. I changed to Fernandes.

                                Which Rosenborg attacker should I get? Bendtner may be rotated and I heard Helland had been injured a lot in pre season...

                                1. VS10_
                                  • 10 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Midstjo is the value pick. How much goal involvement he'll have remains to be seen. Bendtner will score loads if he stays fit. Helland is capable of hat tricks (last year cup final), but both have question marks above to them right now. A lot of wildcards will be played by those who have only gone Midstjo and Hedestand when RBK start really firing if there is no easy route through transfers.

                            4. Aaaatsu
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 9 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Any nailed midfielders for 4.5 ?

                              1. FPL Sergeant
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 16 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Nailedssen ?? 😀

                              2. MALDINI'S EYES!
                                • 9 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Heintz

                                1. Niemi
                                  • 11 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Nope

                              3. UnitedFan
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Valles possibly

                                1. Niemi
                                  • 11 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Probably the only one. Defensive midfielder for a team predicted to end up at the bottom.

                                  Sørli for Kristiansund might start, but not nailed. Kristiansund also predicted to go down, but at least Sørli is a winger.

                            5. I Have No Idea What I'…
                              • 8 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Costa out for a -4? Or do we think he's starting?

                            6. rakdaddy
                              • 9 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Being quite the fantasy newbie but do I look g2g? Have moa as captain.

                              Fernandes
                              ruud, parr, hedenstad, rosted
                              midtsjø, njie, sigurdarson
                              mortensen, bendtner, moa

                              dyngelad, koomson, udoji, utvik

                              1. VS10_
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Nothing too bad that sticks out. Vilsvik is preferred to Parr due to him having more competition and not being very likely to be OOP. Also benching Koomson who is on all set pieces is not ideal.

                            7. Niemi
                              • 11 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Tempted by Riski at 7.0. Apparently he's been looking very good in pre-season and could be back at his best. 3 goals in 6 games (possibly some assists too and "man of the match" awards by fans/bloggers). He was producing very good numbers a couple of years ago.

                              2012 - 10g4a in 26 for Hønefoss (13th in the table)
                              2013 - 10g6a in 29 for Hønefoss (16th and relegated)
                              2014 - 8g5a in 29 for Rosenborg
                              2015 - 1g1a in 16 (only 8 starts) for Rosenborg
                              Loaned to Djurgården in Sweden (11 games, 7 starts, 1g3a) and didn't do well. Loaned to Dundee United and only got 1 start.
                              Sold to Odd last summer and got 0g1a in 14 (12 starts). Didn't look good.

                              Downside: He is a starter, but could face some competition from Diouf (who's also been decent in pre-season) and Zekhnini (maybe even Agdestein). Only room for two of them in the starting XI.

                              1. VS10_
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Very much a confidence player. When he's not on it he'll miss a lot of big chances and gets dropped. If he plays well and gets regular game time he's a bargain. Think we can wait and see on him.

                                1. Niemi
                                  • 11 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  True. Rosenborg away in GW1 puts me off as well, so its probably better to wait.

                            8. Boydinho
                              • 10 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Ryersen or Olsen Solberg most viable as 4th?

                              1. Boydinho
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                and Nakkim or Albech as 3rd

                                1. Niemi
                                  • 11 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Albeck IMO. Sarpsborg was a better defensive team last year and Albeck more chance of attacking returns.

                              2. Niemi
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Olsen Solberg playing for the worst team (most likely). Ryerson not in the starting XI, but might be OOP if he get a game. I'd say Megalvis at Lillestrøm, Utvik at Sogndal, Norbye at Tromsø and Coly at Kristiansund all better picks. I'd chose Megalvis, but you probably have Fernandes as a GK so you have to decide if a double up is something you want.

                                1. Boydinho
                                  • 10 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Thank you. Yes i have Fernandes and aint that fond of double up from Lilleström of all teams.

                            9. Team Cruel
                              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                              • 10 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              We're approaching 50k!

                              1. Niemi
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                48 300. Will surely pass 50k before deadline. That's impressive!

                                1. _Make
                                  • 8 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  aiming for a top 50k finish XD

                            10. Niemi
                              • 11 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Some good options at FK Haugesund. I've been talking about Shuaibu for a while and after looking into FK Haugesunds preseason he has scored 4 goals and at least 1 assist (it's barely mentioned who assisted the goals) in 5 or 6 starts. Hajradinovic and Huseklepp has scored 3 goals each, probably around the same number of starts. Huseklepp has played both as a winger and striker. If he can nail down a starting spot as a striker he could prove to be good value, 8.5 as a winger is too much IMO. Hajradinovic at 7.5 could also be great.

                              Too bad their fixtures are pretty bad to start with. I'm going with Shuaibu only as he's great value at 5.0.

                              1. Niemi
                                • 11 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Hajradinovic has barely been mentioned, but is as good of a pick as Koomson and Adegbenro at the same price. Apparently been on good form in preseason. Very good long shots, dangerous from free kicks as well.

                              2. VS10_
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                It's good that you're bringing different names up. When most of us are not very knowledgeable about Eliteserien it can easily lead to the same players being recommended to everyone.

                                1. Niemi
                                  • 11 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Don't know why Hajradinovic is being overlooked really. Only 4.3% owned compared to 10.6% Koomson and 13.3% Adegbenro

                                  Hajradinovic - 4g7a in 27 last year. 7g3a in 19 and 6g4a in 24 in Slovakian (?) league, so he certainly is a point scoring player.

                                  Adegbenro - 3g1a in 28 last year. 5g6a in 24. Expected to get his big break through this year and get sold in the summer. Lots of doubts about Viking though.

                                  Koomson - 3g10a in 28 last year. Played in Thai League before that, apparently scored 14 goals in 50 matches. No clue on assists and how good the league is.

                              3. Team Cruel
                                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                First 5 fixtures are disgusting, that's why their players are going under the radar.

                                1. Niemi
                                  • 11 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  True, but Eliteserien can be a bit random at times and it's even more a case of form over fixtures than in FPL IMO. It also doesn't stop people from buying Adegbenro and he has worse stats from the previous years (although he is kind of hyped and expected to do better this year).

                            11. Flaming Flamingo
                              • 9 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              GTG? 0.0 ITB

                              Fernandes - (McDermott)
                              Ruud - Hedenstad - Vilsvik - kind Mikalsen - (Moe)
                              Helland - Svendsen - Koomson - Njie - (Sorli)
                              Bendtner (K) - Abdellaoue (V) - (Shuaibu)

                              1. UnitedFan
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Good team. Svendsen looks to be starting this week at least, but Ole loves to rotate his team so keep an eye on him. I'd personally do Helland > Midtsjo. The former is injury prone and Midtsjo is a cheaper alternative and a good pick anyway. Then use that cash to upgrade Svendsen?

                                1. Flaming Flamingo
                                  • 9 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  Thanks for the feedback. I have considered doing something similar... Helland and Svendsen feel like the high-risk high-reward option though and I'm tempted to risk it for a biscuit 😛 Agree that something like Midstjo and Zahid is probably a more sensible option though

                                  1. UnitedFan
                                    • 10 Years
                                    8 years, 8 months ago

                                    It is, but do what you feel 🙂

                              2. Espen8
                                • 9 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Mikalsen to Haakenstad, and then improve either Sorli or Shuaibu

                            12. UnitedFan
                              • 10 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              Is it wrong to have no Odd attacker? Ideally, you'd want to have at least one attacker of the big teams?

                              1. Flaming Flamingo
                                • 9 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                I don't think so. Attacking coverage is probably not as important in a game like this where defenders can easily outscore midfielders and strikers. Not that I'm a huge believer in coverage anyway...

                                1. UnitedFan
                                  • 10 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  While it is true that defenders are more capable of outscoring many attacking players in this league due to the dominance of some teams and the attacking potential on offer, the stats are slightly skewed as attacking players who have played well in other seasons have been sold during the summer window, leaving the defenders to keep going. But don't get me wrong, defenders are up there in this league. I just feel like I need one of Odd's attackers as their one of the dominant teams, it seems a logical strategy.

                                  1. Niemi
                                    • 11 Years
                                    8 years, 8 months ago

                                    I think defender outscoring many attacking players comes down to this:

                                    1. Many teams have attacking full backs and full backs on set pieces.
                                    2. Good attacking players are often sold during the summer.
                                    3. Lack of big names and dominant players
                                    4. Some of the best teams rotate their team a lot, especially the attacking players
                                    5. 2016 was an off year for attackers. Previous years I don't think many defenders (besides Ruud and Vilsvik) would have outscored the best attacking players. (I'M NOT 100% SURE ON THIS)

                                    1. UnitedFan
                                      • 10 Years
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      Nice summary 🙂 Can I get your thoughts on the importance of an Odd attacker, them being one of the big teams?

                                      1. Niemi
                                        • 11 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Not that important. 6 teams scored the same amount or more goals than Odd last year (out of 15). Nordkvelle and Occean expensive, Zeknini a tad expensive as well (but could be worth it). Monitor Riski (and maybe Diouf). I'm not getting any, but will probably bring someone in after a couple of gameweeks.

                                        1. UnitedFan
                                          • 10 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          Would you start with Zahid instead of Nordkvelle then? I still think Nordkvelle is the correct option as I already have Moa, or should I double-up from the start on Valerenga attack?

                                  2. Flaming Flamingo
                                    • 9 Years
                                    8 years, 8 months ago

                                    That's a good point. Do you have anyone in particular in mind? Occean could do well I think, but there are good alternatives up front so it's a bit tricky

                                    1. UnitedFan
                                      • 10 Years
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      I currently have Nordkvelle. Most nailed midfielder in the team apparently.

                            13. Spleising
                              • 9 Years
                              8 years, 8 months ago

                              How would you rate this team? Been changing a lot the last couple of days and quite like the look of this (at the moment).

                              Fernandes/McDermott
                              Ruud/Hedenstad/Lundstrøm/Moe/Skaasheim
                              Midtsjø/Svendsen/Komsoon/Krogstad/Sigurdarson
                              Moa/Bendtner/Ohi

                              1. UnitedFan
                                • 10 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Good team overall. 352, right? I've highlighted my thoughts on Svendsen somewhere above. Is Skaasheim nailed? Maybe consider another defender instead of Lunstrom for 5.5? Could be a good pick as he's very attacking but they are an attack minded team so you'd be banking on them improving their defence. But like I said, could be worth it.

                                1. Spleising
                                  • 9 Years
                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                  The plan was to go 3-4-3 this round.

                                  Fernandes
                                  Ruud/Hedenstad/Lundstrøm
                                  Midtsjø/Sigurdarson/Krogstad/Svendsen/
                                  Ohi/Moa/Bendtner

                                  McDermott/Komsoon/Skaasheim/Moe

                                  Not sure about Skaasheim, but he is cheap (4,0) and he played their last game on the RB. Agree with you about Lundstrøm, He is in my team because of his attacking qualities. Been really impressive in Vålerengas pre season. Svendsen is a bit of a risk but he is OOP and will surely start tomorrow as a striker.

                                  1. UnitedFan
                                    • 10 Years
                                    8 years, 8 months ago

                                    Fair points. I wouldn't want to bench Koomson when he's on pens and all set-pieces and you might not have an alternative to bench

                              2. Espen8
                                • 9 Years
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Skaasheim won´t get games. Do Krogstad to Njie and take Utvik in for Skaasheim. Lundstrøm not worth the price, find money for Vilsvik, (9 goalpoints last season).

                            14. MTPockets
                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                Small comparison of mids' G & A season points stats (just Eliteserien data - where player has 2 seasons I've averaged otherwise just 1).

                                1) Njie: PPkr 6.36, PPG 0.29
                                2) Koomson: PPkr 6.00, PPG 0.21
                                3) Zahid: PPkr 5.14, PPG 0.18
                                4) Svendsen: PPkr 4.76, PPG 0.19
                                5) Sigurdarson: PPkr 4.62, PPG 0.19

                                Doesn't account for any cs points, but does that order of value for money feel roughly right?

                                1. MTPockets
                                    8 years, 8 months ago

                                    * PPG is actually PPG/Price. And Sigurdarson's should be 0.24

                                    1. Niemi
                                      • 11 Years
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      Sigurdarson started 12 matches and subbed in 12 times. Svendsen started 14 matches and subbed in 12 times. The other players started pretty much every match they played in. Sigurdarson should start pretty much every match this year if he's injury free, Svendsen could be rotated often depending on form.

                                      1. MTPockets
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          Thanks. I'm basically trying to decide whether I can lose Zahid for Svendsen OOP if I have Moa. Also improves defence a lot (Vilsvik) so may just do it and hope.

                                  • Chucky
                                    • 12 Years
                                    8 years, 8 months ago

                                    Play Hussain or Nije ? Thanks

                                    1. MTPockets
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Hussain not starting. Check post above.

                                      • Espen8
                                        • 9 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Hussain offers very little offensive, Njie the easy pick

                                    2. Ridcully
                                      • 9 Years
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      Some help here would be much appreciated.

                                      Dyngeland Fernandez
                                      Ruud Wormgoor Ryerson Norbye Granli
                                      Helland Zahid Mostrom Nije Valles
                                      Bnedtner Abdellaoue Lindberg (due to price, no idea if he is any good)

                                      1 million in the bank.

                                      Thoughts?

                                      1. UnitedFan
                                        • 10 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        - Do Helland > Midtsjo and then upgrade Mostrom/Njie.
                                        Helland is injury prone and Midtsjo is a good option in his own right. Wouldn't want Mostrom as Ole loves to rotate his players so avoid them for now.
                                        - Granli > Moe, he's more nailed and the same team and price
                                        - Ryerson isn;t 100% nailed and has bad fixtures anyway. Utvik plays for a solid defence and has good fixtures to start with
                                        -

                                        1. Ridcully
                                          • 9 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          Thanks that's great.

                                      2. Espen8
                                        • 9 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Granli out for Moe, who is the one in the Stabæk team who plays, also on some set pieces, Kristiansen for Wormgoor, he´s on set pieces aswell, Lindberg out for maybe Shuaibu and improve the midfield

                                    3. Ridcully
                                      • 9 Years
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      Is Moa the same person as Abdellaoue?

                                      1. Team Cruel
                                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                        • 10 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Yup

                                        1. Ridcully
                                          • 9 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          Thanks.

                                    4. Niemi
                                      • 11 Years
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      I looked into previous 3 years.

                                      In 2016 3 defenders got more than 10 goal points - Ruud, Stølås and Svensson (Vilsvik on 9). 21 midfielders and attacker got more than 10 goal points.

                                      In 2015 4 defenders got more than 10 goal points - Ruud, Vilsvik, Flo and Danielsen (4 penalty goals). 41 attackers and midfielders got at least 10 goal points.

                                      In 2014 2 defenders got more than 10 goal points - Flo and Kronberg (but he a lot as a winger as well) - 38 attackers and midfielders got at least 10 goal points.

                                      To me it seems like the biggest difference is 2016 was an off year for attackers and midfielders. I'd say get Vilsvik, Ruud and Hedenstad as we expect good attacking returns from them and possibly a good chuck of clean sheets. It's viable to play 4 at the back when you got at least 3 defender who are expected to get good attacking returns in the top teams. Lundstrøm might be the perfect 4th defender if you are willing to invest.

                                      1. UnitedFan
                                        • 10 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        I've currently got Utvik as my 4th defender. Happy enough for his price and their decently solid defence.

                                        1. Niemi
                                          • 11 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          He is good enough as a 4th defender, but I'd prefer playing 3-4-3 or 3-5-2 instead of 4 at the back with Utvik playing every week.

                                          1. UnitedFan
                                            • 10 Years
                                            8 years, 8 months ago

                                            Thanks, but I think they could be solid enough for most weeks anyway. Might rotate with Shuaibu the odd time

                                            1. Niemi
                                              • 11 Years
                                              8 years, 8 months ago

                                              I'd start Shuaibu most gameweeks (assuming he still is in the starting XI)

                                              1. UnitedFan
                                                • 10 Years
                                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                                Fair enough, thanks. I guess I'll just play them based on fixtures. Who this week? Utvik away to Sarpsborg and Shuaibu away to Stromsgodset. Utvik, right?

                                        2. Espen8
                                          • 9 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          Utvik is a good pick. Sogndal is good on set pieces and he is a big man.

                                          1. UnitedFan
                                            • 10 Years
                                            8 years, 8 months ago

                                            Thanks

                                          2. Niemi
                                            • 11 Years
                                            8 years, 8 months ago

                                            He is 1.82 (6"0) so I wouldn't say he's a big man. I'm not saying he's a bad pick, just wouldn't play him week in week out. If I remember right you have Shuaibu? You can play him most weeks IMO (as long as he keeps his place).

                                            1. UnitedFan
                                              • 10 Years
                                              8 years, 8 months ago

                                              Really, I was thinking to play Utvik most weeks and rotate for Shuaibu whenever Utvik has a bad fixture. I though Shuaibu was unlikely enough to score that I could keep him on bench?

                                              1. Niemi
                                                • 11 Years
                                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                                FK Haugesund always score goals and if he's starting he'll score I'm pretty sure. Only Rosenborh and Molde scored more goals last year (Molde scored 1 more)

                                                1. UnitedFan
                                                  • 10 Years
                                                  8 years, 8 months ago

                                                  Wow, seems a bargain then at that price

                                            2. Espen8
                                              • 9 Years
                                              8 years, 8 months ago

                                              He looks big when he plays atleast 😛 Very good in the air

                                    5. Daywalker
                                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                      • 13 Years
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      Any comments? 3-5-2.

                                      Fernandes / Dyngeland
                                      Reginiussen / Ruud / Albech / Granli / Coly
                                      Midtsjø / Svendsen / Riski / Koomson / Njie
                                      Bendtner / M. Pedersen / Lindberg

                                      1. UnitedFan
                                        • 10 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Albeck expected to start, but not nailed so keep an eye. My thoughts on Svendsen are highlighted above somewhere. Riski is a risky pick 😉 as they have tough initial fixtures. Granli to Moe as he's more nailed and the same price. Everything else looks fine

                                        1. Daywalker
                                          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                                          • 13 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          Thanks!

                                          I think Riski could be a punt, and a cheap route into Odd's offense. Remains to see if he gets minutes.

                                        2. Niemi
                                          • 11 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          I do think Albeck is pretty nailed, just some uncertainty because he is a new signing. Certainly the preferred RB right now.

                                      2. Espen8
                                        • 9 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Riski out, he dosen´t play

                                        1. Niemi
                                          • 11 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          That's not true. He's a starter right now and he's been great in preseason. According to Fagermo he is first choice winger now, ahead of Zekhnini and Diouf.

                                          http://www.varden.no/sport/na-er-han-den-forste-odd-treneren-setter-pa-kanten-1.1797675

                                          1. Espen8
                                            • 9 Years
                                            8 years, 8 months ago

                                            He was on the bench all season last year. Zekhini is one of the stars in the league, Riski could easily be replaced if he has a bad game

                                            1. Niemi
                                              • 11 Years
                                              8 years, 8 months ago

                                              No, they bought him in the summer (midseason) and he played most matches. Competing with Diouf and (and maybe Agdestein, but he's a striker).

                                    6. FPL Puppy
                                      • 10 Years
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      Rosted or Wormgoor?

                                      1. UnitedFan
                                        • 10 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Wormgoor

                                        1. FPL Puppy
                                          • 10 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          May I ask why? 🙂

                                          1. UnitedFan
                                            • 10 Years
                                            8 years, 8 months ago

                                            Brann going to do better defensively than Sarpsborg this season apparently. Sarpsborg overachieved last season is what I heard and don't look like replicating their form from last season

                                            1. FPL Puppy
                                              • 10 Years
                                              8 years, 8 months ago

                                              Wormgoor it is then. 😎

                                              1. Espen8
                                                • 9 Years
                                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                                I would go for Kristiansen at Brann for the same price, offensive and he´s on corners, where Brann are really strong

                                            2. Niemi
                                              • 11 Years
                                              8 years, 8 months ago

                                              Both teams overarchieved, both teams predicted to end up between 6th-8th. Albech for value

                                              1. UnitedFan
                                                • 10 Years
                                                8 years, 8 months ago

                                                This

                                      2. Espen8
                                        • 9 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Albech

                                    7. Niemi
                                      • 11 Years
                                      8 years, 8 months ago

                                      Tempted to bench Ruud for Njie or Shuiabu. Only match the whole season where I would consider benching Ruud.

                                      Odd 6.5 to keep a clean sheet.
                                      Njie 3.5 to score.
                                      Shuaibu 4.75 to score

                                      1. Niemi
                                        • 11 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        3.25 for Njie to score**

                                      2. Espen8
                                        • 9 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Hmm, Njie maybe but not Ibrahim

                                      3. UnitedFan
                                        • 10 Years
                                        8 years, 8 months ago

                                        Bench the most essential player in the game? 😉

                                        1. Niemi
                                          • 11 Years
                                          8 years, 8 months ago

                                          But they play against Rosenborg. No other team has lower odds to win in gameweek 1 than Rosenborg (or higher odds than Odd).

                                          1. Espen8
                                            • 9 Years
                                            8 years, 8 months ago

                                            Rosenborg is a cocky team and they often forget to defend at home. Odd could easily get 1 or 2 goals here.

                                            1. Niemi
                                              • 11 Years
                                              8 years, 8 months ago

                                              True, Ruud could get attacking returns but wouldn't expect any. Good fixture for Njie

                                          2. UnitedFan
                                            • 10 Years
                                            8 years, 8 months ago

                                            Attacking potential is too great