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Fantasy Premier League is over for another season, but there’s now a chance to fill the aching void…with cricket.

The ICC Champions Trophy Fantasy League will revolve around the eight-team one-day international competition being held in England and Wales from June 1-18.

The deadline for the initial selection of squads for the game will be June 1 at 10am UK-time.

Full details, including the scoring system, are available via this link, but here’s a quick look at the rules of the game and a pointer to the sides you’ll be picking from.

Selection

Every player has been valued between 2 and 10. You must select 11 players from a budget of 75, ensuring the following team composition criteria is met:

2-5 Batsmen

1-3 Wicket-keepers

1-4 All-rounders

2-5 Bowlers

Once you’ve selected your team, you’ll need to select a Power Player.

Your Power Player scores double points and is therefore crucial to your overall chances. You can make an unlimited number of Power Player changes during the tournament.

Transfers

The ICC Champions Trophy is different from the Cricket World Cup as it’s a much smaller tournament played over a considerably shorter time frame.

As a result, managers will have to make transfers carefully while reacting quickly – thinking on your feet could prove decisive.

Up until the start of the tournament on June 1, you can make unlimited transfers for free.

During the Group Stage, you’ll have a maximum of 20 transfers to use.

The teams have been divided into two groups of four who will play each other in a Round Robin format, with the top two from each group qualifying for the semi-finals. As a result, the Group Stage will consist of a total of 12 matches in which to use those 20 transfers.

Between the end of the Group Stage and the first semi-final, you can make unlimited transfers. Between the first and second semi-finals, you can then make another four transfers.

Before the final, you can again make unlimited transfers.

The transfer deadline is 30 minutes before the scheduled start of a match. Transfers made after this time will not become active until the following match.

Unused transfers will not roll over.

The Teams And Their Stars

Let’s have a quick look at the teams and their key players.

Group A

Australia
The World Cup winners come into the tournament after a good season for some of their players in this year’s Indian Premier League (IPL).
Key players: David Warner, Steve Smith, Mitchell Starc and Chris Lynn.

Bangladesh
Once the minnows of international cricket, Bangladesh have come a long way since then, but it’s going to be tough for them to reach the knock-out stages.
Key Players: Tamim Iqbal, Shaqib AL Hasan and Mustafizur Rahman.

England
The hosts are one of the favorites to win this time. The squad looks well-balanced in all aspects and the home conditions are an added advantage.
Key Players: Alex Hales, Joe Root, Ben Stokes and Chris Woakes.

New Zealand
The Black Caps have always have a decent record in ICC tournaments and could be set for another excellent campaign.
Key players: Kane Williamson, Tom Latham, James Neesham and Mitchell Santner.

Group B

India
The defending champions go into the tournament with a squad that’s almost there, but a lack of a quality all-rounder and no recent international one-day cricket could affect them.
Key Players: Virat Kohli, Bhuvaneshwar Kumar, R.Ashwin, Ahinkya Rahane.

Pakistan
The most unpredictable team when it comes to big tournaments. They possess some of the most experienced players but blow hot and cold – occasionally in the same match.
Key players: Azhar Ali, Mohammed Aamir, Mohammed Hafeez and Wahab Riaz.

Sri Lanka
The retirement of some world-class senior players has left a big void in the team, which is yet to be filled.
Key Players: Angelo Matthews, Lasith Malinga, Thisara Pereira and Dinesh Chandimal.

South Africa
Perhaps the unluckiest team in world cricket, that luck (or the lack of it) will again be tested in the only major one-day tournament they’ve ever won.
Key Players: Hashim Amla, AB De Villiers, Chris Morris and Kagiso Rabada.

The Venues

One of the key aspects in cricket is the pitch, so the venue for each match will be important.

The tournament will be spread across three grounds – Cardiff, Edgbaston and The Oval.

It is highly advisable to consider the pitch and weather reports at those venues before making your team selections.

Happy playing!

Dreams Can captain goalkeepers at will.

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  1. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Plunkett G
    Hales A

    again

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  2. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Got 5 players, Stokes my lowest scorer with 74. Poor from a so called allrounder.

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    1. Essan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If you won £999,999 youd be moaning you didnt win a million 😛 😀

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      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Couldn't call myself a millionane with 999.999 only.

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  3. Team Cruel
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    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    20 points for a stumping is a complete joke.

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    1. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Its actually 15, but should be 10 in line with catches.

      Wickets at 20, still not sure if that's too high...

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      1. Speédy
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        wicket should be 30

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      2. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        http://fantasy.icc-cricket.com/ICC/en/5/clientdreamteams.do?gsp=135

        Buttler has 110, he got 20 for the stumping.

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        1. Fred54
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          That's can't be right, it says 15 on the Help/Rules page.

          http://fantasy.icc-cricket.com/ICC/en/5/clienthowtoplay.do

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          1. Dreams
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Email them.

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          2. diesel001
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            I agree - they have it wrong. Should be 15 pts not 20 pts

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        2. Paul
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          He got 5 extra for winning team i guess

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  4. Speédy
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    plunkettt,yes

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  5. Team Cruel
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    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Ball MOTM. Lol. Shambles of a decision.

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    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      How did you do in Super 6? Must be up there

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  6. F4L
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Ronchi captain 😎

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  7. Dreams
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Score check. 462.

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    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      559

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      1. Dreams
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Well done.

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        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          579 with winning bonus.

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    2. Speédy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      530

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    3. Debauchy
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      575

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    4. Hairy Potter
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      591
      Root(c), Plunkett, Stokes, Williamson and Anderson

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      1. Debauchy
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Nice late charge with Plunk

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    5. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      302 from 4. Take that considering one was a failed transfer in Ronchi...

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      1. Essan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ronchi? You and me both

        405 here from 5

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    6. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      555 from 5 (Root(c), Williamson, Hales, Neesham, Plunkett)

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    7. Paul
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      581

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    8. Jay_
      9 years, 1 month ago

      387 here. Only 8 transfers left now too. Well done all you guys got 500+. Good going

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  8. Sims
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pal xi tomorrow :

    Azhar, fakhar, babar, hafeez, malik,sarfaraz, imad, Fahim, Amir, Hasan,Junaid

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      who are you getting from pak mate? babar,hasan atm for me

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      1. Sims
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Not using any transfers unless the weather improves

        Already have De Kock, Amla, Babar, Hasan.

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        1. Chucky
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          good i might go for Junaid as well..

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          1. Sims
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Wouldn't recommend getting a bowler

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            1. Chucky
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              i expect a much better performance from pak tomorrow.. babar 100 and junaid 5fer too much to ask for? 😉 will probably get amla just because of his high ownership.

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  9. Chucky
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Thank you Plunky... 486 points. will take it 😀

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    1. Sims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      487 here. Will take it with no plunkett

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    2. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      555 from 5 (Root(c), Williamson, Hales, Neesham, Plunkett)

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    3. Karan_G14
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      518 from 7.

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  10. Speédy
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    both cricbuzz and espncricinfo preview says no rain expected tomorrow

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    1. Sims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      There will definitely be rain tomorrow unless the tram batting 1st gets out very early

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    2. Essan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      There will be rain later in the evening. The question is when it arrives. As indicated earlier, my current thinking is around 8pm But will know better tomorrow. My advice is to delay transfers if you can, though I do currently expect a result.

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      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I think they will get a result tomorrow. But need to call the toss right. Will Pakistan bat first regardless after getting criticised for bottling it and batting second last time?

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  11. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Amla(c) locked in for tomorrow

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  12. Paul
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Is Williamson being fined for slow over rate???

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    1. Sims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Possible suspension

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  13. Sims
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Possible to check no. Of transfers left for others on the phone?

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      don't know.i can check for you..

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      1. Sims
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Just wanted to know for the current top 4 in our league..Please. Thanks

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        1. Chucky
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          1 7(A.Ali)
          2 9 (faf and Kock)
          3 12 (amla,kock,morris)
          4 8(amla,kock,morris)

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          1. Sims
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Thankss

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      2. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Sims = 10
        Me = 12

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        1. Sims
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah I'm running a bit low on transfers. Have 4 for tomorrow already so saving should help

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          1. diesel001
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Yeah - I am saving too. Only have 3 players though.

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  14. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Had Root, Williamson and Plunkett. Captained Guptill 😎

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  15. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    @ Team Cruel - how did you do in Super 6.

    I think you were close to the best team which is:

    Root, Williamson, Hales, Buttler, Stokes, Plunkett(c)

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    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Got 680 I think. Not sure how good that will be. Milne over Buttler was the only blunder for me. There's always one who nails them all so not expecting to win it.

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      1. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Think you have a chance here. Doubt many captained Plunkett.

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        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Hope so! I predicted the first innings score to be 305 so hopefully that works in my favour as well.

          "Mini-bat or cap signed by the Player of the Match"

          Wish someone more renown got the MOTM though. Got to be most unfashionable autograph in the history :p

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          1. diesel001
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            You were right. Someone basically nailed it, but went Root(c) instead of Plunkett(c).

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  16. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Are SA batsmen good vs Spin?
    Shadab Khan worth a gamble?

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    1. Speédy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      best among non subcontinental teams,especially the top 4

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    2. Sims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Shadab khan won't play

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      1. Chucky
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        i think he did well against ind and should start.. just changes tomorrow according to sarfraz..

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        1. Chucky
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          2

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          1. Sims
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Just saw it on ARY. I guess they could be wrong

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  17. Fred54
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Any news on the Williamson ban?

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  18. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Dean Wilson
    @CricketMirror

    Kane Williamson avoids a ban for slow over rate. Gets a 40pc match fee fine instead.

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    1. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Good timing.

      Although not sure I should celebrate this, next match probably rained off!

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    2. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      thanks.keeping him for bang then..

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    3. Sims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Dodgy. Tharanga got one for a similar overrate.

      Would have been an easy switch to rohit.

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    4. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If I was SL I would be questioning that.

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    5. Speédy
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      tharanga banned 2 games for similar rate

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    6. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Racists.

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  19. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    So i'm going along pretty nicely at this stage but I somehow have 14 transfers left which seems like a lot more than everyone else. Who would you bring in tomorrow apart from the obvious Root to Amla?

    Azam, Root, Kane, Kohli, Sabbir;
    de Kock, Dickwella;
    Stokes;
    Wood, Hasan Ali, Cummins.

    4 ITB

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Wood to morris or Sabbir to F.Zaman(the new guy from pak,opens and averaged 50 in last year's domestic competition.

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Reckon AB is worth a shot? Or Rabada?

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        1. Chucky
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          both are going to be popular picks and you have luxury to burn a couple of transfer so defo get AB and a differential.. F.Zaman.. 😉

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          1. Parm
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Thinking of going for just Rabada and Amla in tomorrow.

            AB might not get a bat and I don't trust this Zaman pick 😉

            Would rather invest in India tomorrow with Dhawan & Rohit.

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            1. Sims
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Pal likely to bat first tomorrow I think. If that happens AB is almost a fail b4 even the start of the game

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              1. Parm
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Yeah that stinks.

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            2. Chucky
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              fair enough.. Gl 🙂

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    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Sabbir > Amla

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Would love to but it puts me behind in terms of flexibility. Sabbir at 3 needs to stay even if he is a dud.

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    3. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I always look at weather first and I don't like it one bit.

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Really 🙁

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        1. Fred54
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          If it was an early start I'd be confident of a finish, rain looms strong around 5 hours into the game.

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          1. Sims
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Pak getting bowled ou batting first then SA just making it over the 20 over mark is the most likely scenario if this game is to have a result

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            1. Fred54
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Agreed, probably do the boring Stokes > Amla move if the rain definitely is predicted later than it being at the moment.

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  20. Chucky
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Any good differentials for tomorrow? Have 3 atm(Azam,H.Ali and De Kock)..

    thinking of going with Tahir and Junaid...

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    1. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      go with Amir

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      1. Chucky
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        yeah have 4.5 itb. can do Mo Ali to Amir..thanks

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  21. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I simply don't know how to play Cricket Fantasy, I have tried IPL, This one, and over the years many more...never able to get a decent rank...

    Currently 74th in our Fantasy Cricket scout league.

    I think I am going to stick with FPL from now.

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Just don't give up.. How many transfers remaining?

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      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Done with the transfers for tomorrow's match, now left with 5.

        I forgot to change my C from Warner to Root today

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        1. Chucky
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          good luck.. long way to go.. 🙂

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  22. Magicman123
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Got Quinton,faf, morris,malik and hasan ali tmr. Tempted to go with tahir instead of amla, or would that be too cheeky lol

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      You already have enough.. Amla for safety

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  23. Karan_G14
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Root Hales Guptill Kane Faf
    QDK
    Neesham Ali
    Boult Bhuvi M.Rahman

    14 Trasfers left.

    Better option for tomorrow?

    A) Root ➡ Amla
    B) Root & M.Rahman ➡ Amla & Morris/Tahir/Rabada

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    1. Sims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B. U need to use some transfers here. Too many itb could hurt if games are called off

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    2. umerlfc
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B with Morris I guess. Or Rabada

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    3. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      B.. Morris

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  24. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    OR updated. Where are you?

    I am 314 at the moment.

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    1. Sims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Can't see my rank on phone. 33 points behind u so close to that I'd say

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      1. Chucky
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        456...

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    2. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      well done..3761

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    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Top 550. Hurray!

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    4. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Was 3.6K now 5K.

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    5. umerlfc
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      2021

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  25. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    They didn't remove Buttler's 5 extra points for the stumping? If that costs me a Jake Ball signed mini bat then I'll be fuming 😆

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    1. Sims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Save your anger for the day jake ball becomes the new Jimmy Anderson

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      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        🙁 That autograph will be worth a fortune in 10 years time.

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  26. umerlfc
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Kohli Root Guptill *Faf* *Malik*
    *Abd(c)*
    *Hafeez* Anderson Pandya
    *Rabada* Plunkett

    10 Transfers left. 2 Itb

    A) Root -> Amla
    B) Root -> Tahir
    C) Root -> De Kock
    D) Root -> Azam
    E) Save (Have 5 for tomorrow)

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Save

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  27. Sims
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Everyone going amla (c) ?

    Little voice in my head telling to go De kock for catch points but imagine falling for that one again!

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    1. Chucky
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Azam again.. I will never learn... 🙁

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    2. umerlfc
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      De Villiers?

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      1. Sims
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Nah. Poor form + if pak bat first he is a dead pick really

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  28. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Which 3 Saf players would you get in against pak? Have none currently.

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    1. Dreams
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Amla, Rabada and Morris.

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      1. SpaceCadet
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Sorry forgot already have amla. So rabada, morris and dekock/ ab?

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        1. Dreams
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Dekock

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    2. Eden Hazardous
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kock , Rabada , Faf

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      1. SpaceCadet
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks. But if pak bat first might go for a bowler in place of one of qdk/ faf. Tahir maybe?

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        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Deadline before toss and anyway bowlers are a lottery , trash like Plunkett/Milne have gotten 7-8 wickets

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          1. SpaceCadet
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Im playing the fandromeda one so deadline is before first ball bowled. ICC one always gives problems

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            1. Eden Hazardous
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Fandromeda values bowlers much more than official one but still prefer Faf and Kock. Considering you already own Amla , maybe Tahir instead of Kock.

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              1. SpaceCadet
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Cheers leaning towards that

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  29. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Do South Africa play Phehlukwayo today so they don't miss the transformation target again? Is there a risk that one of Morris / Morkel / Parnell miss out?

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    1. VirusintheMind
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I guess they will play the same team

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    2. Dreams
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Better to go for the safe options I think.

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    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I thought they had to average 2 black players in the XI over the course of a year? So they'll probably go with Rabada only in this tournament and have numerous black players in a less meaningful series later on.

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  30. VirusintheMind
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    If Pak win the toss they will bat first considering how badly they chased against India
    If SA win the toss they will bowl first.. as per the situation and rain coming in?They will try to bowl out asap...
    Was tempted to take AB as cap but this scenario is ruining it

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    1. Dreams
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Any team playing with the threat of rain will look to chase IMO.

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      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Mashrafe batted the other day and Smith said he would have done the same.

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        1. Dreams
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          There are exceptions. Did he give any reasons for that?

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          1. Team Cruel
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            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Can't remember, probably was a good pitch. I think Pak wanting to bat first is a fair call. They aren't capable of chasing 300+ or even a revised target at 7-8 runs per over. Their best hope is bat first and set a par score of 280-90.

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            1. Dreams
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Maybe they can chase it. No Shehzad today. And I don't except Hafeez, Malik and Azam to fall collectively again. The lack of an explosive batsman after 5 hurts their chances though. Their bowling isn't in form either.

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            2. VirusintheMind
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              True that

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