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Romelu Lukaku makes his Man United debut, but Marcus Rashford scores the goals, while Olivier Giroud reminds all and sundry of his own striking prowess as Arsenal win again in Australia.

Elsewhere, Saido Berahino finally opens his Stoke City account and a Swansea City budget option is handed a new string to his bow in Gylfi Sigurdsson’s absence.

Here’s the notes from a busy pre-season Saturday.

LA Galaxy 2 Man United 5

The man in many a Fantasy team – Romelu Lukaku – made his Man United debut and was promptly upstaged by a rival for the central striker role.

The Belgian currently sits in just under half of all Fantasy Premier League squads, but it was team-mate Marcus Rashford, owned by a mere 2.9%, who did the damage in the first match of United’s American tour.

Jose Mourinho opted to field a three-man defence for the encounter against the Galaxy, deploying Chris Smalling, Phil Jones and Daley Blind, with Antonio Valencia and Jesse Lingard as the wing-backs.

United kept that shape for the second period, with Victor Lindelof, joining Lukaku in a completely new line-up.

By then, Rashford had scored twice, courtesy of assists from Lingard and Juan Mata, before Marouane Fellaini rounded off the first-half goals, with Lingard again the provider.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Anthony Martial made it 5-0, with assists from Martial and Timothy Fosu-Mensah, before two late strikes for the hosts took a touch of the gloss off the victory.

Not that Mourinho was downcast, preferring to dwell on the flexibility that playing with three at the back can bring to his side.

“We have trained for five days and in these five days we trained for two days in the relation to this system. The improvements are in relation to four hours of work, so I couldn’t expect much better, it’s something we have to keep working on in case during the season we decide to play three at the back. We did it twice against Rostov and maybe we want to do it more times.”

That statement would suggest that Mourinho has far from settled on the system, although Fantasy managers should certainly monitor the situation. Valencia’s stock, as a wing-back, would clearly be lifted by such a role.

Equally, Mourinho was buoyant on Rashford’s performance, indicating that he will look to pair the starlet with Lukaku over the pre-season.

“He [Rashford] has a great attitude and last season he maybe was not scoring a lot of goals and missing some chances but it was not a drama because that’s part of the evolution. We know he is going to score more goals than last season. Today he was in a different team to Lukaku [first half and second half]. We will also try both in the same team which I think can also work.”

Man United XI First half: De Gea; Jones, Smalling, Blind; Valencia, Carrick, Herrera, Fellaini, Lingard; Mata; Rashford.

United XI Second half: Pereira; Tuanzebe, Lindelof, Bailly; Fosu-Mensah (Mitchell 85), Pogba, A. Pereira, Mkhitaryan, Darmian; Martial; Lukaku.

Subs not used: Romero, McTominay.

Western Sydney Wanderers 1 Arsenal 3

There might be a strong sense that Olivier Giroud will not be an Arsenal player much longer, but he took his chance to remind everyone of his worth during a routine win in Australia.

The French target man opened the scoring in Sydney, one of two assists for Nacho Monreal as he made his case to start ahead of new man Sead Kolasinac either as the left-sided centre-half or at wing-back.

Mohamed Elneny hit the third, from an Alex Iwobi assist, despite being asked to operate at centre-back in Arsene Wenger’s now seemingly go-to system of a three-man defence.

But it was the second goalscorer – Aaron Ramsey – who could well be one of the more relevant Fantasy issues this season.

The Welsh midfielder is priced at just 7.0 after enduring a lacklustre 2016/17 campaign in which he produced just 56 points. Used in both pre-season matches to date, Ramsey’s goal reminded us of what an attacking threat he can be from midfield.

New signing Alexandre Lacazette started the match on the left in a role made particularly potent by Alexis Sanchez last season, as Giroud was handed the central striking role.

The Chilean’s future is still to be decided, although his latest comments suggest it may not be as an Arsenal player.

“It depends on them (Arsenal). I have to wait to know what they want. My idea is to play and win the Champions League. It’s a dream I have had since I was little.”

Wenger again rang the changes later than most managers, swapping goalkeepers at half-time and then the entire outfield contingent after 66 minutes.

Arsenal XI First 66 minutes: Ospina (Martinez 46); Monreal, Koscielny, Elneny; Maitland-Niles, Ramsey, Xhaka, Oxalde-Chamberlain; Lacazette, Iwobi; Giroud.

Arsenal XI 67 minutes onwards: Martinez; Bramall, Mertesacker, Kolasinac; Bielik, Coquelin, Ozil, Willock, Nelson; Welbeck, Walcott, Nketiah.

Monaco 4 Stoke City 2

Saido Berahnio scored his first Stoke City goal before a classy Monaco side proved rather too much for Mark Hughes’ men.

The striker turned home a Giannelli Imbula rebound as Stoke’s strong starting XI made a good fist of the first-half but still trailed by the interval.

Mame Diouf levelled things after the break before the French side pulled away once and for all.

Hughes gave four players their first starts of pre-season. Ramadan Sobhi and Xherdan Shaqiri played on the left and right wings respectively, Geoff Cameron moved in at centre-back next to Ryan Shawcross, and Joe Allen filled the number 10 role just ahead of Imbula and Darren Fletcher in midfield.

Allen’s role and Cameron’s pre-season are of particular interest. The USA international is available as a 4.5 defender in FPL and, if he can cement regular starts, could open up some profitable rotation pairing options.

Stoke City XI: Butland (Krkic 45); Allen (Grant 45), Robhi, Shawcross (Muniesa 42), Johnson (Tymon 64); Imbula (Edwards 64), Cameron (Adam 64), Pieters (Wollscheid 64), Fletcher (Diouf, 45); Shaqiri (Verlinden 45), Berahino (Crouch 62).

Philadelphia Union 2 Swansea City 2

Kyle Bartley and Jordan Ayew were on the scoresheet for Swansea City, but it was a cut-price midfielder who caught the Fantasy eye.

Tom Carroll (4.5) was handed set-piece duties for the Swans, potentially offering us a lot of bang for minimal bucks should he continue in that role once the season begins. And with Gylfi Sigurdsson almost certain not to be in a Swansea shirt, come August 12, Carroll’s elevation looks likely.

Leroy Fer and Bartley provided the assists for Paul Clement’s men, while defender Alfie Mawson was handed his first run-out of pre-season.

Bartley, a defender, is currently missing from the FPL player list, but would be expected to be priced at 4.0.

Swansea City XI First half: Nordfeldt; Mawson, Olsson, Naughton, Bartley; Fer, Narsingh, Routledge, Carroll, Mesa, Ayew.

Swansea City XI Second half: Nordfeldt; van der Hoom, Rangel, Fernandez, Kingsley; Britton, Montero, Grimes, Fulton, Barrow; McBurnie.

AFC Wimbledon 3 Watford 2

New head coach Marco Silva oversaw a defeat in his first match in charge of Watford, although goals from Ben Watson and Steven Berghuis brought the Hornets to parity before they succumbed to a last-minute winner for the hosts.

Silva employed a 4-2-3-1 system with Etienne Capoue – one of 2016/17’s early bargains – used as part of the attacking midfield three rather than in the double pivot.

Priced at 5.5 on the back of a 131-point campaign last time around, Capoue could at least be given the opportunity to have a tilt at matching that decent total.

Assists at Wimbledon came from Jose Holebas and Brice Dja Djedje.

Watford XI: Gomes (Bachmann 61); Janmaat (Dja Djédjé, 46), Prödl, Britos (Kabasele 46), Holebas; Watson, Doucouré; Berghuis (Gordon 90), Capoue (Folivi 85), Success (Amrabat 46); Okaka.
Sub not used: Rowan.

Estoril Praia 1 Bournemouth 2

Jordan Ibe and Max Gradel hit the goals as Bournemouth started their pre-season with a win.

Sam Surridge and Gradel provided the assists for Eddie Howe’s side, but the manager had to do without new signing Jermain Defoe, who had recently attended the funeral of Bradley Lowery.

Howe handed new boys Nathan Ake and Connor Mahoney first-half starts, while Ryan Fraser filled in at right-back.

Josh King, now reclassified as a striker in FPL played in exactly that role as part of a 4-4-2 system employed by Howe in both halves.

Bournemouth XI First half: Boruc; Fraser, Cook, Ake, Daniels; Mahoney, Cook, Surman, Pugh; Mousset, Afobe.

Bournemouth XI Second half: Federici; Worthington, Francis, Cargill, Mings; Ibe, Gosling, Arter, Taylor; Gradel, King (Surridge 65).

St Gallen 0 Southampton 0

New Southampton manager Mauricio Pellegrino chopped and changed his squad players in the Swiss stalemate.

Established stars and youthful up and comers – six of whom had never played a first-team match for the club – were mixed and matched in two different sides put out in the first and second halves, but Pellegrino used his preferred 4-2-3-1 formation, with Dusan Tadic operating as a No 10 behind Charlie Austin up front.

But there was no place for Virgil Van Dijk, who is being eased back into contact training following his January injury, and Ryan Bertrand, who had a slight hamstring issue and was kept out as a precaution.

Only four La Liga teams conceded fewer goals than Pellegrino’s Alaves last season, and although this was only the first match of the Saints’ pre-season, it could well be the sign of things to come.

Southampton XI First half: Forster, Flannigan, O’Driscoll, Yoshida, McQueen, Romeu, Clasie, Tella (Johnson, 40), Boufal, Tadic, Austin.

Southampton XI Second half: McCarthy, Pied, Jones, Gardos, Little, Hojbjerg, Johnson, Davis, Long, Gallagher, Gabbiadini.

Maidstone United 1 Crystal Palace 3

Jordon Mutch scored twice for Palace as new boss Frank De Boer fielded a side made up almost exclusively of youth teamers.

Rather more telling indications as to how he views his new, and more senior, charges will be available when the club travels to the far east for two matches later this week.

Chelsea 8 Fulham 2

Antonio Conte’s side romped to victory in a behind-closed-doors friendly against their London neighbours.

In a match that took place in Chelsea’s training ground, Cobham, the 7.0-priced Willian (three goals and one assist) showed just why he could offer value for our midfields in the opening few Gameweeks, with Eden Hazard sidelined for the start of the season.

Meanwhile, Michy Batshuayi bagged two goals and a pair of assists as the Blues’ lone striker before his manager made 10 alterations at the break.

Chelsea first-half: Caballero; Azpilicueta, David Luiz, Cahill; Moses, Fabregas, Kante, Alonso; Willian, Batshuayi, Pedro.

Chelsea second-half: Eduardo; Kalas, David Luiz, Clarke-Salter; Tomori, Scott, Pasalic, Kenedy; Baker, Remy, Boga.

A reminder that all the friendly results and key Scout Notes are being captured here, in our Pre-Season Guide.

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  1. Contegious
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    RMT
    Foster Begovic
    Lindelof Trippier Cedric Luiz Rangel
    Willian Eriksen Cout Sane RLC
    Laca Lukaku Fletcher

    Any suggestions?

    1. The Man Pastore
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It looks good, well balanced. The only concern for me is starting without Kane. Also, I prefer the Foster/Fab rotation

    2. ⚔★Vibudh★⚔
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Get Myhill over Bego
      Luiz to Kolasinac with that money

    3. GE
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Begovic -> Myhill and Rangel -> Mee

    4. Bushman
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks strong. I don't understand why anybody would do Foster and Myhill. So you've got a WBA keeper every game? Anyone care to elaborate?

      1. Andy_Social
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Easy opening fixtures. I'm with you though.

  2. The Man Pastore
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    RMT ou of 10 :

    GK - Foster
    DEF - Lindelof Trippier Bertrand
    MID - KDB Alli Zaha Knockaert
    FWD - Kane Lacazette Gayle

    Bench - Myhill Mee Rosen RLC

  3. aaaaaa
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Will Francis start? How will BOU line up?

    1. bojack
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      More knowledgeable people than me (Doos) have said he will.

  4. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Morning all,

    Any thoughts on the below team?

    Foster / Myhill

    Lindelof / Trippier / Glen Johnson / Mee / Rangel

    Sane / Fabregas / Tadic / Philips / RLC

    Lacazette / Lukaku / Kane

    0.5 ITB

    ?

    1. 7alwachi
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Similar to mine but weak in defence and midfield. Use that £0.5 to upgrade Glen Johnson to someone like Cédric. You can also downgrade Lacazette to someone like Firmino or Defoe to make upgrades to your midfield.

      1. ShaunGoater123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        yeah the 0.5 to cedric is a good shout.

        i did have ramsey instead of philips in a previous draft and lacazette was out. i'm just debating going heavy up top for the first few weeks and then can downgrade whoever isn't preforming for whichever mids are showing themselves.

        will have a look at a firmino option and what that does

        cheers

  5. aaaaaa
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Will you guys pick Kane first or Kaku in the Draft?

    1. The Big Fella
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane!

    2. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Kane

    3. Ole's at the wheel
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      kaku

  6. In Carrick we trust
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Please rate my team outa 10?? Any advice welcome. Im trying something different,

    This is my team

    Foster (elliot)

    Lindelof, tripper, francis (mee) (rangel)

    Sanchez, Mkhitaryan , Bernado silva, RLC (carroll)

    Kane, rashford, jesus

    1. The Big Fella
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Rashford isn't nailed and Trippier may not do so well at Wembley on a bigger pitch

    2. The Man Pastore
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      6 mids?

      1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Bernado Silva

      2. The Man Pastore
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        sorry my mistake...

    3. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      4/10

      Good picks: Foster Elliot Trippier Francis Mee Rangel RLC Kane Jesus

      Bad picks: Sanchez Mkhitaryan Bernardo Rashford

      Most of your budget is on players who aren't nailed.

      Wouldn't take too much to fix though.

      1. unlethal
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Why is Sanchez a bad pick?

        1. noquarternt
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Don't know where he's going to go.

          If he stays, he won't be the main striker anymore with Lacazette likely to dilute his returns. For that price, I'd want him to be the main man at the front.

          If he goes to City, would be even worse.

      2. In Carrick we trust
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        How can you say sanchez is a bad pick????? Hes arguablly 1 off the best players in the league. Man can won a game on his own irrelevant if hes out wide or as a striker. And as for Mkhitaryan he looked sharp against la galaxy i thank with lukaku up froint the likes off pogba and Mkhitaryan are guna benefit

    4. 7alwachi
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mkhitaryan out. He returned to pre-season fat and while he can fix that it's never a good sign. Also not a fan of Rashford, he won't be playing full 90s even if he does start and I'm sure he won't start all games. Prefer King at that price.

      1. Norman Conquest
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        the fat pic taken of mkhitarian was taken at the end of last season, not since they came back he has trained every day whilst on holiday and looked sharp against la galaxy having said that with perisic transfer impending i am not sure on who jose is actually going to play where but worth keeping an eye on

    5. Ole's at the wheel
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      not bad def dont need to be cricified over it. Mkhi maybe a rotation risk and im not sure about silva the rest looks pretty decent imo

  7. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    5-3-2 anyone?

    Foster
    Valencia / Lindleof / Tripier / Ake / Cedric
    KDB / Ozil / Wilian
    Kane / Lukaku

    Myhill / Carroll / RLC / Fletcher

    1. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Gotta be better than Willian if you're going for that formation.

    2. COYG
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      9/10

    3. The Man Pastore
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Playing Ake and Cédric week in week out is a little too weak for my liking. But it looks quite good otherwise.

      1. The Man Pastore
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If RLC is nailed, you can actually switch to 4-4-2 when one of your def has a tough fixture

    4. Ole's at the wheel
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      KDB me dont like

  8. Abel Xavier
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone else picking a team with only the first 3 weeks in mind?

    1. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No. Game is a lot longer than that.

      1. Abel Xavier
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I won't be packing up ahead of GW4

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      First 6 weeks for me

    3. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Then I can choose whether to wildcard

      1. Abel Xavier
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Same thoughts. Will see what differences that creates to my team if I stretch it out to 6.

    4. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      3/38 doesn't sound too smart.

      1. Abel Xavier
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I tend to wildcard pretty early anyway. Targeting a good start and planning for the early wildcard might serve me better.

        1. noquarternt
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Plan for not needing to use your wildcard and only use it as a last resort. Planning to use it GW3 seems crazy. What happens if in GW 7 injury chaos hits? You'll have wished you'd saved your wilcard.

          1. Abel Xavier
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            More than half of 1st played wildcards were used ahead of the GW4 and GW6 deadlines last season. If i plan my team much longer than that, I worry I'll be planning to play catch-up.
            A good example I suppose would be not picking any Everton players.
            And if I concentrate on the first three, not picking any West Ham players.

            1. noquarternt
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              More than half of the players are poor planners then.

              Aim for the first 6 or so fixtures with your cheaper players and then fixture proof guys like Alli and Kane. You'll be able to react to changing fixtures as and when the opportunities arise.

              Going without Everton and West Ham players is already a great tactic.

    5. The Big Fella
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      First 5-6 for me then I will debate wildcarding after the international break

  9. The Big Fella
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Sane or another 9m or less midfielder? Mane is the only Liverpool mid I'd consider and I can't afford him

    1. Pique boo
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Pedro

  10. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    If Aguero moves to Chelsea then people will be playing Aguero - Kane - Lukaku as their front three.

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      That would be an outrageous 3

      1. FPL Maldini
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Yes 100%. Really hope the transfer happens

    2. Diva
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      That's already my front 3.

    3. S.Agueroooooo
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Jesus would really be essential if that happened to... but I cant see it happening

    4. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hell yes lol. The rest of your team can be absolute shite and you'd still get a crapton of points every week

    5. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      He's not leaving seriously people stop spreading this around it will never ever ever happen

  11. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    What do we think?

    Foster---Myhill
    Milner--Trippier--Cedric--Rangel--Yedlin
    Coutinho--Ramsey--Willian--Pogba--RLC
    Lukaku---Kane--Deeney

    1. Eze Really?
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Fairly template. Not a Pogba fan myself. Concerns over Milner gametime.

      1. FPL Maldini
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Why? Is milner not nailed now?

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          No he's not. Just like Aguero is going to City and various other ovsense rumours.

          No reason to suggest Milner isn't a starter and on pens as he took one in ore season and scored it

        2. Eze Really?
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Robertson may go to Pool. I would watch who the normal one buys.

      2. TheDogTor
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Milner is on elf the first names on the team sheet, if Klopp think Robertson gives Liverpool more balanced then Milner will go to right back imo. Clyne is very average and Milner adds a lot more to the team.

    2. Legomane
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Same Same
      Maybe Same Same Maybe Maybe
      Maybe Maybe Same Maybe Same
      Same Same No-F-Chance 🙂

  12. Scotty B
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Elliot or Myhill?

    1. Legomane
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      On Myhill ATM due to Elliot uncertainty - decision to be reviewed

  13. Over Midwicket
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Those playing 4 or 5 defenders, aren't you worried you'll find yourself rooting for "boring" games with few goals?

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      So?

      1. Over Midwicket
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        So that makes watching the games somewhat uninteresting?

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Or we can have 5-0 victories like City tend to do.

          I'm not going to watch every game and it's a reality many games will bore 0-0 draws so 4 or 5 at the back is a viable option

    2. Pique boo
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Its either play Lascelles or play RLC for me and i think Lasceles will score more points

    3. Legomane
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No I'll be rooting for my defenders to go MAHHHHHSIVVVE with a couple of goals each week

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Don't count on it even Alonso only scored 7 goals total last season

        1. Eze Really?
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          6 goals, 5 assists

    4. Eze Really?
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I am going 5 wing backs. To be honest, I have not picked them for clean sheets. Take Alonso last year 176 points in 2700 minutes. 60 points from clean sheets. 6 goals 5 assists 11 bonus points (low) Anywhere close to a repeat makes his price great against 7 mil mids.

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Alonso is poor value this time around . He was great for 5.5 last season. This time at 7? Lol not for me

        1. Legomane
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Didn't he start at 6.0

          1. Waxys
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Yes but he dropped in price as Chelsea were doing badly at the start of the season until Conte switched to 3-4-3 and saved his job

            1. Ruth_NZ
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              He dropped to 5.9. That was the lowest he ever was. Make up another story. 🙂

              1. Waxys
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Well that's wrong but I'll play devils advocate here and let you tell me the difference between 5.9m and 7.0m 🙂

                1. Ruth_NZ
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  I think you are a prankster. Good luck with your stories, bro.

                  1. Waxys
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 1 month ago

                    K

                2. Sjaugen
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  You again!
                  5.9 at his lowest. I picked him up at 5.9 so I remember

                3. Legomane
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  Nonsense, RNZ is spot on. He started at 6.0, dropped to 5.9, then sailed up to 6.9 (IIRC)by seasons end. 7.0 is fully justified, and a super price point for putting off the doubters.

                  1. Waxys
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 1 month ago

                    Meh better value elsewhere

          2. Ruth_NZ
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Yes, but why spoil a good argument. 😉

            1. Eze Really?
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              Welcome Ruth. A discussion site, not a troll site. Well said.

              1. Ruth_NZ
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Well, seeing you say so...

                I have done a fair bit of research about defenders and how to maximise defender ppg because I think it's the single biggest variable where ground can be made other than captaincy.

                In short, the clean sheet percentages have been falling season on season for about 4 seasons now and last season (especially the first half) was the worst in living memory. That means that you MUST prioritise attacking potential from defenders even if at the cost of an extra 0.5m.

                There was once a time when the cheapest starting defender from a team you wanted (for a rotation or as a regular) was usually the one to have. There were exceptions (like Baines in his pomp) but that was the general rule. No more. You need to be willing to invest more in the defence and get those that can get points in multiple ways - either very good on BPs or distinct goal/assist threat.

                As an example, Mawson at 5.0 is better value than Fernandez at 4.5. I wish it wasn't the case because it makes things more awkward but there's no point in avoiding the inconvenient truth. You need to get one less premium attacker and have more expensive defenders. You'l almost for sure score more points overall that way.

                That's a very short version of my assessment anyway.

                1. Eze Really?
                  • 12 Years
                  9 years, 1 month ago

                  Not quite in a nutshell, but my thoughts entirely. I look at Lindelof vs Valencia. To save the money many are going Lindelof but is that really wise? I take the clean sheet situation out of the equation for the very reasons you mention. There will be gems at low prices but it is guesswork at the moment. We just need to look at points per minute last year in defense and they were mainly big hitters who offer attacking potential. Zaha and Alonso are the same price and Zaha did well last year. Alonso out shined him all the same. My big hitters in attack are for captaincy purposes. Thereafter, I look at points in relation to cost. The latter part of the season I might have 108 TV and then priorities start to change.

                  1. Waxys
                    • 9 Years
                    9 years, 1 month ago

                    Don't pick Valencia he's over priced and subject to rotation.

                    1. Eze Really?
                      • 12 Years
                      9 years, 1 month ago

                      All Wing backs in the Champions league will be subject to rotation. It is hard work there. If he misses a game I will have cover for him.

                      1. Waxys
                        • 9 Years
                        9 years, 1 month ago

                        He wasn't even in champions league and was rotated last season.

                        like I feel united have too much squad depth to justify investing so much in a defender that can be rotated. He's getting old too

                      2. Eze Really?
                        • 12 Years
                        9 years, 1 month ago

                        We all have our viewpoints. He was rotated due to Europe mostly. Especially when United had a fixture pile up. On top of this, Jose tinkered with 3 at the back the other day.

        2. Legomane
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          He's up against Zaha Willian, Ramsey at that price point, I say he's very tempting

        3. Eze Really?
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          well let us compare with a like for like mid. Zaha did well last year. Alonso points per minute far superior.

      2. Over Midwicket
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Fair dos, but I've seen a lot of Lindehöfs in teams and he probably won't get many attacking returns and baps (Pogba and Lukaku are bap monsters)

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Pogba is deffs not a baps monster.

          Lindelof is also .5 cheaper than most premium defenders. So he's good value

          And he nearly scored in pre season but he missed a sitter

        2. Eze Really?
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          There will be the alders/Kosi/Cahill points getters at Centre Back but are harder to find. Taking the Clean sheet points out of the equation Alonso at 7 would still compare to like price mids.

      3. Kroosin'
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If Alonso could repeat what he did last season, he will be far superior than those 7m midfielders. I have mustered up courage to go 4 at the back, not 5. Good luck to you. I think it might pay off.

        I am also closely monitoring preseason to get more info whether more teams play 3-5-2 or not.

    5. Legomane
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      There is not a single player in the 5.0-6.5 midfield bracket that feels likely to make my starting squad - they're all absolutely pish..and I got badly burned by Phillips as well as uninspired by Allen/Gundogan last season. The 'only' budget mid that worked out was Joshy.

      goalscoring and assisting defenders on the other hand...

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        +1

      2. TheDogTor
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Tadic is v attractive at 6.5

      3. Eze Really?
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        This^ A simple calc one can do is look at points per minute vs cost. I have Tadic and Zaha for budget reasons. Coutinho because at 9 is still good value. Playing 5 at the back is down to arithmetic for me.

        1. Legomane
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Obviously that goes out the window when looking at Premium Captain options, but there's no reason you can't fit 3 Premium captain choices in with 3-4 Premium defender options

          1. Eze Really?
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Of course. Kaku/Kun rotations as captain for until further notice.

  14. The Quad
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    RMT

    gk - forster - elliot

    def - lindelof - cedric - bertand - dawson - mee

    mid - pogba - zaha - kdb - carroll - ramsey

    fwd - lacazette - abraham - jesus

    2.5 itb

    1. H-SF
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Solid

  15. H-SF
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    RMT-
    Foster
    Lindelof Francis Monreal Cedric
    Willian Alli Coutinho
    Rooney Lukaku Jesus
    Hennessy, Ritchie, Suttner, Carroll
    0.5m ITB
    thoughts everyone? 🙂

  16. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Best 5m defender?

    A) Ake

    B) Charlie Daniels

    C) Fuches

    D) Schluup

    1. Blanka
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      E) Cedric.

      1. Blanka
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        F) Dawson.

      2. FPL Maldini
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Got him and own West Brom keepers

    2. Gabbiadini
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Cedric, McAuley, Daniels
      (b) if it has to be one of them

    3. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Ake. Look at his stats by the end of last season.

    4. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A or B. I'm doubling up. Wba and WAT is too good to ignore

  17. Blanka
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    I'd say Ake out of list tbh.

  18. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Read that if arsenal sign Lemar, wenger might play him in Cazorla's position. Cant see Lemar playing next to Ramsey as that would offer little protection. Anyway, Ornstein says deal is unlikely

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lamar is trying to force a move to Arsenal and demands Monaco sell him

    2. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Roundabout:

      Lemar to Arsenal
      Sanchez to City
      Aguero to Chelsea

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Aguero will never go to Chelsea

  19. nobwak
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Luckily I don't have this problem because I don't support a premier league team...

    Those who do support a prem club - does it create conflicting emotions when your club is playing against your fantasy players? Ever even found yourself rooting against your own club! Say if you had Kane (c) and he was playing against your club, or if your club was playing against one of your fantasy defenders. Or is that going too far?

    1. H-SF
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Would never ever root against the team I support

      1. nobwak
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        No, likewise. Just wondering if anyone takes fantasy more seriously than actual football really.

    2. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      My club is good enough that I don't have that problem

    3. Blanka
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I play in a money league. If Kane (c) scoring a hat trick against Arsenal (who I support) wins me a good chunk of cash, I'm happy!

      1. Blanka
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ecstatic if the game finished Spurs 3 Arsenal 4.

      2. nobwak
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You're happy, or just less unhappy?

      3. nobwak
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Like would you actually find yourself wanting Kane to score loads of goals against Arsenal in that situation?

        1. Blanka
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Nah, ultimately want arsenal to win, suppose it would just be bitter sweet.

    4. Tommyg
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      As a forest fan myself thinking that Leicester might do well again is slightly heart breaking as would have to use Leicester players in my squad.

      1. nobwak
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ah, at least it's not Derby.
        Always nice to encounter a fellow red. Are you going this season? How do you think we'll get on?

  20. Shaq Attack
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    RMT Please, any inputs would be valuable.

    Foster (Heaton)
    Lindelof Cedric Milner (Lascelles , Simpson)
    Willian KDB Zaha Mkhitarayan (Sidwell)
    Firmino Kane Gayle

    0.5 to spare

    1. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks good, certainly different. Wouldn't have Mkhi and Firm myself, but each to their own. Anyway to squeeze Firm up to Lacazette/Lukaku/Jesus?

  21. COYG
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    rmt, any advice would be great 🙂
    have this team but can change a few players to upgrade Ramsey and or Willian and maybe get Kane

    Foster
    Cedric Bellerin Trippier Lindelof
    Alli Ramsey Willian
    Jesus Lukaku Lacazette

    Elliot RLC Chalobah Rosenoir

    1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looks good mate.

      Only thing I'd say it is missing is a Liverpool mid.

    2. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I like this a lot. Assuming Ramsey will play.

      Might have to steal the template.

  22. Bushman
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    RMT please:

    DdG / Elliot
    Cedric / Luz / Trippier / Mee / Dunk
    KdB / Willian / Coutinho / Phillips? / T Carroll
    Kun / Lacazette / Gayle

    Thanks

  23. boneumut
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Pls RMT

    gk: Foster - De Gea
    df: Cedric - David Luiz - McAuley - Trippier - Mee
    mid: KDB - Alli - Ramsey - Tadic - Shelvey
    fwd: Jesus - Firmino - Gayle

  24. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A) Daniels and Foster

    B) McAuley and Boruc

    1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A
      Because Boruc may well not be first choice

    3. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A easy

  25. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Who are the template picks so far? I have them as:

    GK: Foster, Myhill
    DF: Trippier, Cedric, Lindelof
    MF: Pogba, RLC
    FW: Lukaku, Kane

    1. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Pogba is not a template pick. I've seen Lacazette in more teams than Kane as well.

  26. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    slightly tweaked, any thoughts?

    Foster / Myhill

    Valencia / Cedric / Dawson / Mee / Rangel

    Henderson / Pedro / Tadic / Sane / RLC

    Lacazette / lukaku / Kane

    ?

    1. le flem
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Bit top heavy

  27. le flem
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Schindler or Hefele at Huddersfield?

    1. Taking the Mkhitaryan
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Schindlers on my list

      Sorry......

  28. Gabbiadini
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Foster (Elliot)

    Lindelof, Trippier, Cedric, (Rangel, Hunemeier)
    De Bruyne, Alli, Redmond, Loftus-Cheek, (Carroll)
    Kane, Lukaku, Firmino

    Would it be best to swap Lindelof > 5.0 defender (please suggest the best candidate) and then Hunemeier who I'm completely unsure about (selected due to him having high ownership) > 4.5 defender (please suggest the best candidate).

    Awful FPL coach in the past, but looking to have more of a crack this year!

  29. HammersFan
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    David Luiz nailed?

    Whats the current Chelsea backline looking like at the moment?

    1. FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Wait and see for me. I would think Luiz deserves to be nailed after winning the league last year

    2. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nah coz of Rudiger

      1. Ruth_NZ
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You really don't know much about football, do you. 😕

    3. Ruth_NZ
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      The answer is yes, as long as Conte sticks with a back three.

      You might see some rotation for CL games, of course.

      1. HammersFan
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Where does rudiger fit in ruth? Dont know much about him tbh

        1. Ruth_NZ
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          LCB is his preferred position but he can also play RB. If Conte stays 343 I'd imagine he'll play LCB. Cahill might move to RCB, that would eliminate the aerial weakness from Azpi playing there.

          It's all worth watching because Azpi could conceivably play RWB instead of Moses, in which case he'd suddenly become great value.

          Chelsea are one of those teams I'm happy to wait on, the opining fixtures aren't wonderful (GW1 apart). GW8 is when they start a great fixture run and things will likely be clearer by then.

    4. Kroosin'
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I think he is. There is no reason for Conte to change the back three.

  30. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Are Spurs even looking for a Walker replacement or is Trippier their main man now?

    1. HammersFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      lots of paper talk about potential replacements

    2. boneumut
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      like Ricardo Pereira from Porto.

    3. Gabbiadini
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Most likely to be Trippier

      1. Gabbiadini
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Really..? Damn Trippier such a good option there at 5.5 if no one signs.