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Our series of summer members’ articles continues this afternoon as we assess what’s on offer at the managerial merry-go-round that is Watford.

To begin with, we analyse the Hornets’ performances on a team level, checking out last season’s data in order to spot trends and areas of improvement. Following that, we take a look at the players to pinpoint their key individuals.

For this article, we also focus on new manager Marco Silva’s impact on his former club Hull City after an impressive stint at the KCOM Stadidum during the second half of 2016/17.

Watford parted company with Quique Sanchez Flores at the end of 2015/16, scoring 40 times on their way to finishing in thirteenth spot on 45 points.

Yet the now-departed Walter Mazzarri failed to improve upon those performances in his only season at the helm. The Vicarage Road outfit scored the same number of goals but picked up just 40 points, ending the campaign in seventeenth position.

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  1. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    What u make of this lads?

    Eliot, Foster

    Bertrand, Luiz, Dawson, Mee, Rangel

    Kdb, Mane, Redmond, Zaha, RLC

    Lacazette, Lukaku, Chicharito

    Cheers!

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Strong bunch but no Spurs.

    2. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      would want to see more from Chicharito before taking the gamble.

    3. FDMS All Starz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I like it

    4. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      True that, my main concern

  2. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Any Comments?

    -------------------Foster------------------------
    ------Valencia---Cedric---Francis----------
    ---Salah---Zaha---Ritchie---Mkhika------
    --------Aguero---Kane---Firmino-----------

    Subs: Myhil---Caroll---Dummet---Rangel

    1. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Mkhi not as nailed as Pedro or Pogba, at that price.

      Salah seems to be a bit of a gamble as well.

      I like the Kun pick.

      I'd avoid Rangel as his ownership is very high and he'll lose value. Go for Stankovic.

      Otherwise a solid effort

  3. Vlekz
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Best 8.5 keeper combo? I don't think foster is good enough. And can't have fabianski as I am rotating naughton and lejeune( couldn't find a better rotation pair which is nailed every week)
    Is hart nailed?

    1. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      won't get much for 8.5.... Foster / Elliot the best bet.

  4. Schliegs
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

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    winner after knockout rounds will recieve $50 prize from yours truly to spice things up, get in.

    1. _Greg
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      more ppl will join and listen to you if your get your very own profile pic for free, visit http://www.gravatar.com for details.

      1. columbo
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Thanks mate, have joined - Invinnesible

  5. EDEN THE MAN
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Pick 2

    Kolasinac
    Bailly
    Kompany

    1. Werkself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      2 & 3

    2. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      1 and 3

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        1 & 3 has more upside

  6. Sandesh_
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Austin or Gabi..who is more likely to start?

    1. Ninjaa
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Imo Gabi

    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Gabbi, played the final pre-season game, scored and assisted, Austin benched

    3. _Greg
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      try getting a profile pic of your very own, http://www.gravatar.com

    4. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Gabbi

  7. Ninjaa
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A. Jwp and mounie
    B. Tadic/Redmond and Abraham

    1. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      tough one....

      I'd go A. but there's nothing in it.

  8. ItsFinley
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Walker or kompany

    1. Ninjaa
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Imo Walker

    2. _Greg
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      http://www.gravatar.com

    3. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Walker any day of the week.

  9. EDEN THE MAN
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    What do you make of this team?

    Foster
    Kolasinac-Bailly-Daniels-Yoshida
    KDB-Willian-Zaha
    Kane-Luk-Firmino

    Myhill-RLC-Carroll-4.0m

    1. Ninjaa
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Looks good

    2. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Nice looking squad

  10. ScotDougie
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Opinions on best 6 mil forward , currently on Mounie, also best 5 mil defenders currently Daniels and Cedric?? Cheers

    1. EDEN THE MAN
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Defenders yes
      But I'm trying to steer clear of budget strikers until one of them hits form.

    2. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Mounie and Abraham are the front runners for budget forwards.

      Cedric definitely. It'll be tight between Ake and Daniels.

  11. Lav
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Trippier injury is so annoying

    1. mcrayeps
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Bavies, simple

      1. Francescoli
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        will he step in?

        1. mcrayeps
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Rose still injured and according to premierinjuries he will return at September 9th..

    2. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Tell me about it, was such a great option as well, may diminish Kane's threat too (hope not)

  12. mcrayeps
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    what should i do with Foster
    A) Keep
    B) Change to another 4.5 (Begovic / Fabs / Hennesey)
    B) Upgrade to 5.0 (Forster) and downgrade either Zaha/Willian

    1. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      i reckon keep.

    2. Turbolag
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Mat Ryan is by far my favorite 4.5 this year, think he'll be similar to 15/16 Butland. He even has pretty decent fixtures early on.

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        I've been tempted by Ryan, hope I'll have the courage to pull through as Foster could frustrate me

  13. Birds of Prey
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    My case for Ake over Daniels is:

    Daniels 134 pts. 3060 mins 4 goals 3 asst. 1 YC 14 bonus
    Ake 55 pts. 834 mins 3 goals 1 asst. 1 YC 8 bonus

    If Ake had played the same mins, averages say he would have scored 40pts more over the course of a full
    season, and pens are a distant memory for Daniels.

    1. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Small sample size, we don't know if Ake could have kept going at this rate

    2. Sterling is £11Mill..…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Ake is like to have three yellows then, aggressive little guy isnt he

    3. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I like Ake. Seems to pop up in the right places for more goals.

    4. _Greg
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      try visiting http://www.gravatar.com , ,it grows hairs on your chest and creates a gravational paradigm wormhole that sucks your mother in law into oblivion.

  14. Sterling is £11Mill..…
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Dawson + Mawson + Mee

  15. Oz lotto
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Morning lads! This season has just crept up on me massively as I'm sure it has many of you!

    How is this for a first pop?

    DDG Speroni
    Alonso Bellerin Bertrand Dawson Kaboul
    KDB Mik Ince Fer VLP
    Lukaku Lacazette Rodriguez

    Nil in the bank... thoughts and criticisms?

    1. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      nice work. I'd probably steer clear of J-Rod til we see more of West Brom. Try Abraham or Mounie for a budget striker. Mhiki isn't as nailed as someone like Pedro or Pogba. I like the Bellerin pick.

      1. Oz lotto
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Mhik has just dominated pre-season though and I like how explosive he is... he is great for a team built around lukaku

        1. Francescoli
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          then go for it. personally i'd feel a little safer with pedro.

          1. Oz lotto
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            thanks for the input! reckon i'll go with my gut. I'll ship Jrod... had Gray in there but couldn't afford him!

  16. The Overthinker
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Best 5.0 Midfielder?

    1. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Atsu

      1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        predicted to get 3 goals this season. You have a 8.675% chance of him scoring in a game

    2. Postman Ty
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I don't like them. Carrol at 4.5 and upgrade someone else. Or find some more money for a 6.0ish punt, but I'm not over the moon on any of them yet either, and I usually love a cheap mid.

    3. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Only Carroll really.

  17. Postman Ty
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Jesus or Lacazette?
    I think if they're both 90 minutes (and if both on pens?), I pick Jesus. He treated me very well last season.
    But I can't stop thinking that the main man at Arsenal will thrive, he just hasn't impressed much in pre-season and I was skeptical of his hype from France.

    1. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Jesus, wait for Laca to prove himself (or rule himself out as an option)

      1. Postman Ty
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Even with kdb in the team? He's my most nailed player. I feel like they will both score enough to justify it, but maybe worth diversifying?

        1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          ditch KDB he is over-rated

          1. We Will Klopp you
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            200 points last season with 8 woodwork shots says otherwise, KDB was one of the first names on my teamsheet

            1. Postman Ty
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 27 days ago

              lol awkward mirror comment.

          2. Postman Ty
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            200 points last season and hit the post around 8 times...that could have been 40 more points, not even considering bonus. He already has about 200 assists this pre-season, I really don't understand how you came up with the idea of over-rated.

            1. Oz lotto
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 27 days ago

              this

            2. Sterling is £11Mill..…
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 27 days ago

              Aguero and Jesus make him look good, if they left he would be found out as a fraud like when suarez left liverpool and sterling was exposed

              1. Postman Ty
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 27 days ago

                2013: Bundesliga Young Player of the Year
                2014: Bundesliga Player of the Year
                2014: Bundesliga Team of the Year
                2014: Europa League Squad of the Season
                2015: German Footballer of the Year
                2015: Man City Player of the Month 4 times
                2015: Man city Player of the Year
                2016: Premier League Top Assister

                You are genuinely talking out of your arse...

                1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
                  • 9 Years
                  9 years, 27 days ago

                  Bundesliga is basically conference

                  1. Postman Ty
                    • 12 Years
                    9 years, 27 days ago

                    Best. In. The. League.
                    You are an actual joke, go away.

                    1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
                      • 9 Years
                      9 years, 27 days ago

                      I spose if you like assists, they dont even bother recording them they are of such little significance

          3. One Man
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            If you already have Alli and Salah and willian in midfield who would you ditch KDB for ?

            1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 27 days ago

              Ramsey

        2. We Will Klopp you
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Hmm, Jesus is the safe option, Laca is the diverse but more risky option, could pay off though. Classic risk/reward imo.

  18. ItsFinley
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    GK: Forster
    DEF: Walker, Kolasinac, Alderweireld
    MID: Mooy, Puncheon, Willian, De Bruyne, Alli
    FW: Lukaku, Firmino
    Subs: Gk: Ryan, Def: Daniels and Suttner, Fw: Abraham

    1. ItsFinley
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Thoughts

      1. _Greg
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        http://www.gravatar.com = more thoughts

    2. EDEN THE MAN
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Back to the drawing board

      You have a 5.0 defender on your bench whilst Puncheon and Mooy sit in your starting XI

  19. b✪mber
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Do you have a City forward? If 'Yes' than who - Kun or Jebus?

    1. b✪mber
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I'm on Kun right now.

    2. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      gone with jesus but think aguero will show us all up.

  20. MGMT
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A little help needed

    A. Alonso + Daniels + Zaha

    B. Bertrand + Francis + Alli

    1. One Man
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B

    2. Francescoli
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      b

    3. _Greg
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      try http://www.gravatar.com , a diseased raccoon will evaporate into filtered coffee if you say the library smells of cheese to the one eyed baker and his red dwarf obsessed lover.

  21. One Man
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Anyone else going witout Lukaku or kane ? I'm thinking of going witout Luka.

    1. One Man
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Without

    2. MGMT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Going with both

      1. _Greg
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        hey there bud...you getting me? reading other posts?

    3. Oz lotto
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      i'm without kane. can only squeeze one of him or lukaku.

  22. JD @JDCochran2
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Any help with this lot? Been sitting on it for a week

    Foster

    Danilo Trippier Cedric

    Erikson Salah Willian Carrol

    Kane Lukaku Benteke

    Elliott, Loftus Cheek, Hunemeier, Hudson

    1 Million ITB

    1. _Greg
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      the death knell: http://WWW.GRAVATAR.COM

      1. JD @JDCochran2
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        how is that?

    2. MGMT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Nice team for the short term...
      You have no bench and watch out for trippier, he is injured.

      1. JD @JDCochran2
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Wild card GW 3 if needed

      2. JD @JDCochran2
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Also do you think Davies suitable replacement for Trip?

  23. Lav
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Steve Mounie as a third striker anyone?

    1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      See below.

  24. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Really starting to consider a 3-4-3 with rotating third defender. Naughton and Dawson.

    Not sold on Richie or Mounie though.

    Hart
    Kolasinac / Stephens / Dawson
    KDB / Salah / Zaha / Richie
    Kane / Lukaku / Mounie

    Elliot / Carroll / Naughton / Long

    £.5 itb

    1. MGMT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Why not upgrade stephens to bertrand with the extra 0.5?

    2. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I am convinced to start with 4-4-2 with atsu,quaner on bench . It gives flexibility to change formations. Having walker means I can always downgrade him to stones and upgrade one of 5.0 mid to a 6.0 mid

      I don't like the zaha pick imho

      1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Who would you prefer to Zaha? Willian?

        1. The Overthinker
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Willian is an option. Other options are the brom guys. Chadli / Phillips

    3. Lav
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Are you between Mounie and JRod? Thats my situation now.

      I am on a 3-4-3. Same forwards, Similar midfield (Salah only difference). Defense is much different though. Reckon Long best 4.0m option?

  25. Postman Ty
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Why can't francis just be nailed...the 0.5 jump to Ake, although worth it(?) is killing me.

    1. MGMT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      francis isn't nailed?

      1. Miami Monkey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        No

    2. Turbolag
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I think he's pretty nailed. In the 8 games last year where Ake played, Francis started at RB every time, even though Smith was available for 7 of those games.

      1. Postman Ty
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        I've heard otherwise recently, and the latest pre-season game fits that info. I think he may play some games, but I don't think he's nailed enough to be on my team. It's a wait and see.

        1. Turbolag
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Honestly I'm not worried about it because I think he's a poor option anyway. Even if he was nailed, he'd still be near the bottom of my 4.5 rankings.

          1. MGMT
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Who would be in your top 4.5?

  26. mcrayeps
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    saw the mcity preseason data like this yesterday
    https://ibb.co/nFbP6a

    anyone know what is the source and where to find another data like that?

  27. Brayden29
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    How did Kolasinac go today? Saw he popped up for a goal but didn't start. Will he be nailed against LEI?

    1. EDEN THE MAN
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Yes

  28. EDEN THE MAN
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    I have had a budget striker in my team for as long as I can remember but when you consider the fact that someone like Rodriguez will most likely get around 6 goals it makes sense to get a mid priced mid and a mid to high price striker.

    For example Mane may outscore Firmino by about 20 points max

    But then Zaha or Miki has the potential to double Rodriguezes total.

    Budget forwards are wait and see for me until one of them hits form. Not to mention the fact the one proven budget striker is a rotation risk

    1. Brayden29
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I am on Abraham currently but think it is good to have a flexible option to jump on the bandwagon one that starts the league well

    2. Postman Ty
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I think that's harsh. If Rodriguez cements a starting place, which he should, he can easily get 10+.

    3. mcrayeps
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      having budget striker (not fodder striker) will allow us the flexibility to jump on any bandwagon with little transfer.. lets say you have 4.5 striker and Gayle perform.. you only have 2 options, downgrade premium forward, or 2 transfers..

  29. Miami Monkey
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Anyone know why Adam Smith wasn't in the squad today?