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Our series of summer members’ articles continues this afternoon as we assess what’s on offer at the managerial merry-go-round that is Watford.

To begin with, we analyse the Hornets’ performances on a team level, checking out last season’s data in order to spot trends and areas of improvement. Following that, we take a look at the players to pinpoint their key individuals.

For this article, we also focus on new manager Marco Silva’s impact on his former club Hull City after an impressive stint at the KCOM Stadidum during the second half of 2016/17.

Watford parted company with Quique Sanchez Flores at the end of 2015/16, scoring 40 times on their way to finishing in thirteenth spot on 45 points.

Yet the now-departed Walter Mazzarri failed to improve upon those performances in his only season at the helm. The Vicarage Road outfit scored the same number of goals but picked up just 40 points, ending the campaign in seventeenth position.

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  1. Sickboy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 17 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Can someone confirm exactly where JWP plays in Southampton's set up please?

    Is he one of the three behind the main striker?

    Thanks.

    1. gunnerboy
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I think so. Im getting him just for Southampton's good fixtures. Him and Cedric.

    2. The Tinkerman
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Who knows. Now that Lemina has joined its hard to predict but I think he is still in the 2 in the 4231 not the forward 3. Depends who starts up front though, it's quite unpredictable. But they have Gabbi, Boufal, Redmond and Tadic to play in the 3 behind the striker.

      1. The Tinkerman
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Could easily be Romeu and Lemina in the 2 and JWP in the 3, or even on the bench. Wouldn't like to predict.

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Tends to play RW in a 4-2-3-1 but LM in a 4-3-3

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      RW

      1. Sickboy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Thanks everyone

    4. JustClasie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I wouldnt be going near him, rotation risk id say

  2. HurriKane
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Is Monreal nailed? I think Kolasinac might share pitch time with him

    1. Feed tha Sheep
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Yeah both should start long term

  3. Feed tha Sheep
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Who do we think is the best?
    A. 5.5 midfielder
    B. 5.5 defender
    C. 5.0 defender

    Cheers

    1. Super Frank
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Ha ha

    2. Our Tiny Windows
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Kola Trippier Cedric is the concensus. Until the next comment.

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Kolasinac is 6
        Trippier is injured
        Cedric may not be match fit

    3. Feed tha Sheep
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Currently on
      Bertrand
      Daniels
      Fraser

      *Bourmouths fixtures are poor though*

      1. Oven Glover
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        First two games is good. Only issue is if Fraser starts... They'll wreck havoc down that left side at the Hawthorns.

    4. @fpl_phenom
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I went

      6.0 Kompany
      5.0 Dawson
      5.0 Yoshida
      4.5 Mee
      4.0 Long

    5. HNI
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Gross
      Bertrand
      Cedric

  4. billnats
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A) DDG, Trippier, Mili, Willian
    B) Pickford, Trippier, RLC, Pogba
    C) Pickford, Suttner, RLC, Coutinho

    C - Suttner will be defender 4.

    1. Our Tiny Windows
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A 100%

    2. @fpl_phenom
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A

  5. rnrd
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    close to being settled
    What do you guys think?

    DDG/Elliot
    Trippier - Kompany - Yoshida - Evans - Hunemeir
    KDB - Salah - Alli - Brady - Caroll
    Lukaku - Benteke - Gabbiadini

    Evans and Brady are rotating well
    Evans: BOU - xxx - STO - xxx - WHU - xxx - WAT
    Brady: xxx - WBA - xxx - CRY - xxx - HUD - xxx - WHU

    so sometimes 4-3-3 sometimes 3-4-3

    1. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Trippier got injured yesterday, won't start week one

      don't like your defence or attack at all in truth

      you need two of Lukaku, Kane and Jesus

      1. rnrd
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        I really don't think Kane is worth the the 3.5 over Alli.
        And I am not so sure about Jesus. I don't think he is as clinical as we believe in front of the posts.

    2. oli7
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I would try to upgrade Brady to a 6.0
      Maybe Downgrade Kompany (will probably get injured soon enough) or DDG
      Upgrade one of Tekkers or Gabbi (I would keep Tekkers) Downgrade a MF, maybe Salah due to rotation concerns.

  6. Deece
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Who is your 5.5m midfielder of choice?

    JWP - set piece machine. On pens? Decent fixtures. Is he nailed?

    Fraser - attacking player in attacking team. Agin, is he nailed?

    Herrera - should be nailed in United team. Think he took some pens last season? Will he be sitting back more alongside Matic?

    Henderson - was on corners / pens before injury. Club captain. Liverpool should score a hatful so should get the odd goal / assist. Rotation risk with Milner + Can?

    Other?

    1. So Troublesome
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Xhaka - free kicks and corners

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Expect Sanchez and Ozil to take over those duties

      2. Deece
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Surely not with Ozil / Sanchez on pitch. Card magnet ?

      3. JJO
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        He will be nowhere near them

    2. Cooper123
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Got to be JWP I think. The only (relatively) sure starter in an attacking position from the options you listed. He's in my team but I'm not particularly happy about it.

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Xhaka is nailed on

        1. Cooper123
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          'in an attacking position'

          1. Waxys
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            In Wenger's new system he's more attacking than any park the bus mid from relegation teams

      2. Deece
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Yeah I'm on JWP currently purely for fixtures.

    3. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Fraser. He'll start and opening two fixtures too good to ignore.

      West Brom are a mess.

  7. Atimis
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Is Abraham nailed and probably better option than Gabi or Austin ?

    1. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Had a good pre-season; however, he has Llorente to share a place with I think... he's also flagged.

      1. Atimis
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Damn...

    2. What am I doing?
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      should be yes, got subbed because they didn't want to risk him

  8. Cooper123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Got a big dilemma with my last two spots.

    A) Mhkitaryan and Jesus; or
    B) Alli and Firmino?

    One one hand, Mhkitaryan has all the signs of having a great season, and should be good value at 8.0; and Jesus is a relatively secure way into City's potent attack (not sold on KdB due to lack of goals), and is a viable captaincy option which is very valuable.

    On the other hand, All scored 18 league goals last year and will be playing in a support striker role so one would expect him to have another productive season; and Firmino will likely be heavily involved in an increasingly electric Liverpool attack, and is the best of the bunch in his prose bracket.

    Any thoughts? Which combination do you prefer and why?

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Need to see the rest of the team really

      1. Cooper123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Looking at:

        [Alli or Mhki] // Salah // Willian // JWP // Carroll

        Kane // Lukaku // [Firmino or Jesus]

    2. Our Tiny Windows
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Both are good but Alli beats Miki for me.

      1. Cooper123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Yeah but doesn't Jesus beat Firmino...?

        1. Our Tiny Windows
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 26 days ago

          Yes and you have Salah. It's a close one.

  9. K-win
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Alonso or Willian? Ignoring positions.

    Alonso was so far up the pitch again yesterday, almost like a left forward.

    1. MEGPAL
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Neither

    2. Bellerinmondo
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Willian as better options with cheap defenders than cheap mids

      1. Bellerinmondo
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Ie
        WIllian + cheap def
        Over
        Alonso + cheap mid

        1. K-win
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          What if both that cheap mid and cheap def were on the bench?

          Would you still choose Willian?

  10. johnnybeefcake
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Who is using Alonso. IMO looks like great value at 7.0

    1. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Better value than the similarly priced mids and forwards IMO, but early fixtures aren't great for clean sheets.

  11. Bellerinmondo
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A. DDG, Dawson
    B. Bego, Kola
    ?

    1. matth141
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B

    2. mcrayeps
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 26 days ago

      A

  12. Birds of Prey
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Would yo rather have Iwobi or Fraser? Thx

    1. Bellerinmondo
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Iwobi looks far from nailed so Fraser

    2. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Fraser at the moment - as he is more nailed.

      Iwobi could be a great option if he secures his place. Until he does so however, probably better ways to spend that 5.5.

    3. Feed tha Sheep
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      if nailed Iwobi..but he isn't so Fraser

    4. Expected Toulouse
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Fraser

  13. johnnybeefcake
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Also is Kola nailed? Didn't start yesterday and came on at CB for an injured player

    1. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      played very well once he came on tho

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Yep, that wasn't the 1st XI, game on Friday remember.

      1. Bellerinmondo
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        So he'll start Friday you reckon ?

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Yeah, he's really good. Built like a tank but does that LWB thing brilliantly.

          1. Geoff
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            I agree Netley. He's in my side right now

    3. Bellerinmondo
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Wondering this too. Might start with someone else and plan to get him in later

  14. matth141
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A) Willian Mane Gabiadini

    B) JWP Eriksen Firmino

    1. billnats
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A

  15. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    RMT please

    De gea
    Kompany Bertrand Daniels Dawson
    KDB Salah Zaha Ince
    Kane Lukaku

    Elliot T.Carrol Quaner Hunemeier

    1. oli7
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Bench a bit weak for me personally
      But great starting 11

    2. Teror
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      7/10. Quaner & Hunemeier aren't starters so hope that you don't suffer any injuries.

  16. Corona Macallan
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Which one do you prefer

    A Gabbi Fraser Salah
    B Firmino Zaha JWP

    1. Garth Marenghi
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B, only because of likely playing time

      1. Corona Macallan
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Cool thanks

  17. Garth Marenghi
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Do we know when Son comes back from injury?

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      In light training apparently

      1. Garth Marenghi
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Thx.

  18. camarozz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Wish it was Friday.
    Too light in midfield??

    Mane,Ritchie,Zaha,Philips
    Jesus,Kane,lukaku??

    To get KDB I'd have to lose Jesus and play 352 instead with T.Carroll as fifth mid.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Can't have it both ways, not bad. See, we can only have 4 hitters really, some like 2 + 2, others 3 + 1.

      1. camarozz
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Yeah it's really hard to get it right. I had Firmino in for Kane and covered it with Alli instead of Philips and it really was better balanced but of course no Kane.

        Doing my head in.

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          As long as you have 4 hitters, that's fine. Seen ones with 5 but they look awful 😆

          1. Coaly
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            I have 5 and whole team is solid

            1. Netley Lucas
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 27 days ago

              Go on then, let's see.

              1. THFC4LIFE
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 27 days ago

                I had 5 big hitters

                De gea
                Trippier Bertrand Dawson Daniels
                KDB Eriksen Salah Ince
                Jesus Lukaku

                But changed it to get Kane in

  19. Waxys
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    I used to have Jesus over Aguero. But Aguero on pens sealed the deal for me. Now my front 3 are all on pens

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Who's your front 3?

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Kane Lukaku Aguero

        1. HNI
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          God that must have really weakened your Midfield then!

          1. Waxys
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Eh not bad just not great

        2. THFC4LIFE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Beast!! And the full team fella?

          1. Waxys
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Hart/Elliot
            Milner Cedric Daniels Kompany
            Pogba Xhaka Fabregas
            Kane Lukaku Aguero

            I only got the front 3 when it's confirmed Milner is on pens and a midfield starter with Lallana out for 4 months and Coutinho set to leave

            Xhaka is also nailed on thankfully and looks great value at 5.5

    2. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Any have a look at my team above geeza

    3. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Jesus could just as easily be on pens.

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Nah

      2. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        People just looking for reasons to choose Jesus over Aguero lol coz he's cheaper

  20. Stokealona
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Foster
    Cahill Bertrand Walker
    Willian Pogba Milivoj JWP KDB
    Lukaku Jesus

    Subs Elliot Rangel Mounie Trippier

    Any changes or advice welcome please n thanks

  21. HNI
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    So who are people going with as their 3rd forward along with Lukaku Kane?? With Austin sharing time with gabs and other strikers uncertain becuz of their fitness issues and form I am seriously considering 4-4-2 for GW1 in such a way that with 2 transfers I can bring in a 6.5mn-7mn option if it emerges.
    I also toyed with 3-5-2 but considering Caroll as solid 4.5mn mid pick which seems must have in every side
    4-4-2 with 4.5mn(Defender+Mid+Striker) seems least risky of the lot for first GW.

    Please share your thoughts

    1. Teror
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I'm going with Jesus. Only cheap strikers I'd consider are JRod, Mounie or Abraham.

  22. System builder
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Thoughts on Butland/Foster rotation?

    With 9.5 being utilised here, i know this won't be a popular option here.

    Draft team at present is as follows

    Foster/Butland
    Cedric, Kolasinac, Daniels, Lascellas/Yedlin, Naughton
    Pogba, Fabregas, Zaha, Redmond, 4.5 mid
    Lacazette, Lukaku, Jesus

    1. HNI
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Go with Forster+Elliott for 0.5mn less
      Chelsea are dire and no Tot cover can screw up things

      1. System builder
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        How about Rooney instead of Lacazette and Alli/Eriksen instead of Redmond/Fabregas

  23. FPL_Hazards
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Ok so somehow i've ended up with this:-

    Foster (Elliot)

    Kalasanic - Cedric - TAA - Suttner - Long
    KDB - Pogba - Willian - Carroll - Gross
    Kane - Lukaku - Firmino

    Can I have suggestions who to downgrade to beef up a defender?

    1. HNI
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      WIllian aint nailed for long...Who is TAA?

    2. Bubbles1985
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Kane > Jesus

  24. Sausage and Eggs
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    No one for me is shining as a forward throughout preseason, apart from Kane who looked decent again Juve although he tends to have a slow start so i have two options which is yet to be decided ..... a penny for you thoughts?

    A)
    Lukaku / Kane / JRod (KDB Midfield)

    B)
    Jesus / Kane / Rashord (MKhi Midfield)

    I have KDB to cover Jesus if removed and mkhi in midfield also

    1. Teror
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Definitely A.

  25. Daniel Exeter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Cracked it...right?

    Begovic,

    Alonso, Walker, Cedric, Monreal

    KDB, Alli, Zaha

    Lukaku, Firmino, Gabbi

    (Foster, Carroll, RLC, Francis)

    1. HNI
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Bego,RLC and Gabbi not 100% nailed

    2. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Very nice team

    3. Our Tiny Windows
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 26 days ago

      Done

  26. milanista10
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A) Alonso, Willian, and Zaha
    B) Kompany, Mane, and JWP

    A or B chaps? 😀

    1. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A

  27. Mongreloid
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    How's this for a highly unbalanced team, but playing major rotation at the back?

    Foster - Elliot
    Yoshi - Dunk - Hegazi - Mee - Alex-Arnold
    KDB - Mané - Alli - JWP - T Carrol
    Kane - Kaku - Joselu

    Madness or genius? Any suggestions welcomed!

    1. Daniel Exeter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Personally, I don't like it. The balance is all off. (but you know that anyway)

    2. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I don't like it

    3. HNI
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Good for a week or so..Super bad for long run

    4. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Try playing it over the first few GWs. The real problem there is KDB.

      1. Mongreloid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        So you'd downgrade KDB over mane and Alli? Had been lookin at Mane > Zaha/Fab but KDB would release more funds... worth it to get Kola / 5.5?

      2. HNI
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Isnt KDB the diamond in that midfield? Your stats suggest him being a mediocre pick?

  28. IRBOX ⚽
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    How's it looking fellas? Keep changing between 4-4-2 and 3-4-4

    DDG
    Cedric Daniels Bavies
    KDB Mane Zaha JWP
    Kane Lukaku J-Rod

    Elliott Carroll Hegazi Long

    1. IRBOX ⚽
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      3-4-3*

    2. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Very nice balance. Pretty flexible too.

      Personally, would swap J-Rod for Abraham and spend the cash on upgrading Bavies to Kompany or Kolasinac.

      1. IRBOX ⚽
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Abrahams fixtures worry me though and imminent Llorente return/minor injury?

        1. Reuser
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 26 days ago

          Fair points - but I watched the last Swansea match and was really impressed by him. Got in great goal-scoring positions and was a real handful. Not sure it is a given that Llorente walks back into the team at the expense of Abraham.

          Personally, I think he is a risk worth taking at that price point, but I can see the merits in J-Rod. Was interested to note that a recent write-up from a Soton fan (Lucy) indicated that J-Rod is still a threat, but never really recovered his pace and movement after his injury.

    3. Dickie1898
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Looks good. I'd consider ake over daniels and mane > salah, JWP > Ritchie.

  29. Reuser
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Anyone considering Suttner/Lowe rotation pairing? Perfect home/away rotation.

    Not usually a fan of defensive rotation - but exploring alternatives. Currently on Kompany, Stephens, TAA and Suttner (+4.0)

    1. Oven Glover
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Lowe not nailed unfortunately. Maloney could play.

      1. Reuser
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 26 days ago

        Urgh - that's a shame.

        Maybe I'll start with TAA for a couple of matches and then see who is nailed and performing at the same price-point.

  30. Kingtekkerz
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Is Atsu nailed now?