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Our series of summer members’ articles continues this afternoon as we assess what’s on offer at the managerial merry-go-round that is Watford.

To begin with, we analyse the Hornets’ performances on a team level, checking out last season’s data in order to spot trends and areas of improvement. Following that, we take a look at the players to pinpoint their key individuals.

For this article, we also focus on new manager Marco Silva’s impact on his former club Hull City after an impressive stint at the KCOM Stadidum during the second half of 2016/17.

Watford parted company with Quique Sanchez Flores at the end of 2015/16, scoring 40 times on their way to finishing in thirteenth spot on 45 points.

Yet the now-departed Walter Mazzarri failed to improve upon those performances in his only season at the helm. The Vicarage Road outfit scored the same number of goals but picked up just 40 points, ending the campaign in seventeenth position.

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  1. leocarter27
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Thoughts on this?! Feedback appreciated.

    De Gea / Elliot

    Cedric Francis Kolasinac / Mee 4m

    Alli KDB Willian Carroll / RLC

    Lukaku Kane Chicharito

    1. WrightnBright
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Chichatit-no, weak 4th mid, no liverpool

      1. WrightnBright
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Apart from that, nice!

      2. leocarter27
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Liverpool r crap though

        1. how now brown cow
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          ok

    2. Another Hoops
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Too much uncertainty at the back in particular.

    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Many had you last season tm.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Less than 3000 in GW1.

    2. Mash Potato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Joined!

    3. itwaswritten
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      What's this?

      1. potatoace
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        its a competition for those whose teams look the same

        1. itwaswritten
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Oh oops. Not something for me then.

      2. Gnu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 17 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Join up, then TM can post your team.
        Could do with a laugh.

        1. itwaswritten
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Bookmarking this for when this ends and I end up before you.

  2. Annie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A) Ince + Jesus
    B) KDB + Mounie

    1. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B

      1. We Will Klopp you
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        B

    2. itwaswritten
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      They both have one good player and one bad. Hard to choose.

  3. Emiliano Sala
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    is it too much risk to have danilo and taa and plan to sell them after 3 weeks ?

    1. Simon69
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Nah, definitely not for Danilo anyway.. City will hit the ground running.

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        thanks. but maybe he plays 3 games max?

    2. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      nope. fine in my books

      1. Emiliano Sala
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        thanks

  4. Zoostation
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Things would be a lot easier if we knew of a Man U defender 5.5 or below nailed on.

    1. Zoostation
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      And DDG does not count.

    2. Egg noodle
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Smalling possibly

      1. Zoostation
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Some say Jones, Darmian etc...

        Not sure we really have any idea.

    3. zøphar
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      think jones is a decent bet, him and bailly cb pairing imo

      1. Zoostation
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Decent enough bet you are going to take it?

      2. Matamatics
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Never going Jones again after he was out for ages because fellow waste of space Smalling trod on his foot. Fool me once fool me twice etc.

    4. Big4FPL
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Don't why Darmian is being overlooked, started the Europa final (If I remember rightly) is nailed on why playing 5 at the back due to our lack of wingers that track back and in 4 at the back is our only mobile left back with Blind also having pretty poor pre season

      1. Big4FPL
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Apologies for the poor grammar, I'll blame autocorrect on my phone!!

    5. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      there isnt one. mourinho will swap it around.

  5. Keno
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Who is this Mounie guy?

    1. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      New Huddersfield striker...did well in Ligue 1 last year

    2. Rogue Todd
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Scored just 1 goal less than Mbappe in Ligue 1 last season for a far worse team

  6. Sergio AGUEROOOOO
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    RMT Please, out of 10?

    Foster

    Danilo - Darmian - TAA

    KDB - Salah - Willian - Ritchie

    Kane - Lukaku - Gabbiadini

    Realise Defence is risky but all should be starting, could get DDG and replace Darmian with a 4.5m defender, any suggestions??

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      completely rejig that defence!

      1. Sergio AGUEROOOOO
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        ANy suggestions on a solid 4.5m defender?

        1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          mee, dunk, suttner, lowe, hef, lascslles, naught, simp but all have drawbcks as any 4.5 would

          1. Sergio AGUEROOOOO
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Think im going stick with danilo, darmian & TAA, Very confident all will start GW1/2 at least, v happy with the rest of my team, so ill be happy to make changes in defence if needed

            1. Visionaries
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 27 days ago

              Couldn't comment on Alex-Arn but the other 2 will all start

        2. FPL-Gutten
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Suttner from Brighton maybe

        3. Another Hoops
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Mee or Naughton

  7. Frank Black
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Barca has made their first official bid for Dembelè: 80M euros. Rejected by Dortmund with Watzke saying that not even 100M euros are enough. So they might have to bid 120M to sign him.

  8. Sillet Bang
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Any ideas on Utd back 5?

    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Val Jones Bailey Darmian

      1. Visionaries
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        This is what I'd guess as well

    2. RichieW
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Valencia Bailly Smalling Darm

  9. Sepp Blattered
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    (A)

    KDB - Coutinho - Mkihi - Zaha - Carroll
    Kane - Lukaku - Abraham

    (B)

    KDB - Eriksen - Zaha - Atsu - Carroll
    Lukaku - Lacazette - Jesus

    1. Totti
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A with ritchie instead of mkhitaryan and upgrade the defence

  10. Mr. O'Connell
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Speroni/Elliot rotation roll call

    1. Chris_White
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Tempting, but could end in tears

  11. okan58
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Lacazette or Jesus?

    1. Rubbish
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Serious?

      1. okan58
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Yea.

    2. FlashyGooner
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      This one is a personal choice. I'm a gooner so I watch us every game. Both will be around the same returns i'd imagine -- although, Lacazette is our number 9, jesus has more spread I think, since cities attack is immense.

  12. Mash Potato
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Are we fairly sure that Milner will start the first few GWs given injuries?

    1. Egg noodle
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Not really, no.

    2. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I'm punting on Moreno to start over Milner at LB

    3. We Will Klopp you
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      No, as a Reds fan he disrupts the fluidity of our attack going forward & was outshone by Moreno & to a lesser extent Robertson in pre-season. If he starts in midfield there will be uproar, I'd personally rather Grujic starting than him.

    4. Mash Potato
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Cheers chaps

  13. FlashyGooner
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    West Brom back line week one?

    1. IWR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Will be average

  14. Hazz
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    de Gea / Elliot
    Kompany / Cedric / TAA (Yoshida/Mee)
    KDB / Salah / Zaha / Fraser / Carroll
    Kane / Lukaku / Abraham

    Starting with two SOU defenders is risky, but could catch some nice price rises. If I started with Cedric, and he doesn't play, Yoshida comes in. TAA for the first one/two fixtures, too.

    Plan to get Trippier back in by downgrading less desirable SOU to a 4.0. Although, that may not be overly wise.

    Front 8 I am fine with. Thoughts? Am I overthinking my defense?

    1. Zoostation
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Our teams are extremely close.

      We will have to seriously rethink things later this week if the news on Tammy is not good.

      1. Hazz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        True. I could just downgrade him to Ayew or a 4.5, who sadly is not as exciting. This weekend has been messing with my plans too much.

  15. Apollo Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    DDG, Elliot
    Dawson, Cedric, Kolasinac, TAA, Long
    Willian, KDB, Salah, JWP, Carroll
    J-Rod, Lukaku, Kane

    Unsure of going with Kolasinac or swapping to a 5.0 and having two playing 4.5 defenders that rotate with the 5.0s?

  16. Red Card Rockets
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Any Newcastle assets in defense worthy of a look?

    1. #23
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      dummet

      1. Apollo Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Manquillo got an assist today though may not be a guaranteed starter when Yedlin is back from injury. Lejeune could be good for the CBIs and bonuses, recorded either the most blocks or clearances in La Liga last season.

  17. RiskyBusiness
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    So I went to chelsea today and obviously came away disappointed but more then the result is the growing concern about how unprepared we seem to be for a nightmare first 2 months, here's a few things I saw about us today

    1 - the defence will be as solid as last year, especially when bakayoko comes in for Fabregas , the chances created by Arsenal were where they had men over in midfield because Fabregas didn't have the legs, with two athletes screening the defence it will be a solid team

    2 - no Willian! Willian has been in my team since day 1 but he was dire today, lost count of how many times he lost the ball and was replaced after 70 minutes, that may of been due to pedro being sent off and he wanted to give musonda game time, but don't fancy the risk, he didn't take many set pieces either which was one major point possibility for him

    3 - morata will come good. Say what you will about the missed penalty, and he did miss a couple of half chances but overall I thought ht was good when he came on, he won flick ons and his movement looked good, definitely would have him over lacazette

    4 - the major issue is the squad size, much has been made about the need for signings but it became very apparent today, the squad needs improving if we are to compete and if we do make signings before the end of the month I cannot see Chelsea competing

    1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      my sentiments without going to the match, lucky for a top 4 finish 😀

      1. RiskyBusiness
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Can't see us getting top four at this rate, I can't see any way we will finish above Tottenham or Manchester clubs so fighting for fourth

    2. Red Card Rockets
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Agree about Willian today, but Gunners have some mental thing going over them right now. Look at fixtures and who Willian will be going at. But overall, Chelsea isn't figuring in my team yet.

      1. RiskyBusiness
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        I think I will have luiz possibly, I like morata and will definitely have hm st some point but nit from the start I don't think

    3. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      You seem to have gone backwards since last year

      Morata I don't think is as good as Costa - always been a back up option, Conte doesn't seem overly impressed!

      Matic is better than Bakayoko I reckon

      Lost Ake who was a good squad option as well as Terry

      Plus you'll find it a lot more difficult having to manage CL midweek once that kicks in.

      1. Numb
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Oh and Zouma!

        1. Four Letter Wirtz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Yes, Chelsea were surprisingly undercooked vs Arsenal, and on paper they have lots of problems, but then there's Conte. He won't sleep or eat until kicking them into some sort of serviceable shape, just like last season.

  18. Frank Black
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Has Milner lost penalties? Because that would dent his appeal even more. At the same time playing OOP could be a big plus.

    1. Optimus.
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      He has probably lost his starting position as well as penos imo

      1. Frank Black
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        But it's not like he didn't play, though, he played in midfield. Judging by Klopp's words, he considers him a new midfielder.

    2. Egg noodle
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Milner said that he let Firmino take the penalty, it wasn't preplanned

      1. Red Card Rockets
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        If Milner isn't on the field, which might be likely—he's lost penalties.

  19. robertbushe
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Please rate my team

    Elliot
    Bertrand Stones Stephens
    Shelvey Sterling Alli Salah
    Gabbiadini Lukaku Kane

    Bench
    Speroni Carroll Suttner Rangel

    1. ⚽️ Barry Chocolate ⚽…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      double sou def, elliot, shelvey, sterling

  20. itwaswritten
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    How long till everyone tries to make place for Sanchez in their team?

    1. Totti
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      after gw 2 🙂

  21. milanista10
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A) Alonso, Willian, Jesus
    B) Kompany, KDB, Firmino

    A or B?

    1. Totti
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B

  22. Olee
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A or B better? (early WC in mind)

    A: Kane, KDB, Iwobi/JWP
    B: Jesus, Eriksen, Mkhi/Pogba

    Thanks!

    1. Totti
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A with jwp

  23. itwaswritten
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    I hate how everyones team here looks the same. That's why no one here will ever win it.

    1. Davido989
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Nobody has a forehead like me.

      1. Super Frank
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        lol

      2. itwaswritten
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Big forehead = Higher IQ. We always win.

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      You can have a so called "template team", but I bet less than 0.1% have the exact team you do, in the exact combination.

      And there have been people here who have won.

  24. Totti
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    choose 2
    1) dawson
    2) ake
    3) daniels
    4 yoshida

    goalkeepers are degea and elliot

    1. Visionaries
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      3 & 4/Cedric

      1. Totti
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        no wba defence coverage then?

        1. Visionaries
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 27 days ago

          I had Dawson, but I thought he was a slight doubt

    2. itwaswritten
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Aké and then find someone else.

  25. Hargo
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A. Salah + Atsu
    B. Willian + Zaha

    Have Firmino.

    1. Totti
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A

    2. Numb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B

  26. peng
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Currently sitting on:

    Foster / Elliot
    Valencia / Kompany / Stephens / Mee / 4.5
    KDB / Mané / Zaha / Ward-Prowse / Carroll
    Kane / Lukaku / Quaner

    Thinking 442 / 352 depending on fixtures.
    Trying to keep budget as well divided into brackets as I can to aid transfers hence 2 defenders over 6mil rather than spreading the wealth and getting Daniels or something. Only thing I'm missing in that front is that reverting to a 343 is 2 transfers way if someone like Gayle shows form but I don't like any of the equivalent prices forwards to start with :/

    Thoughts?

    1. Pirlø's Pen
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Shocked at how similar our teams were!

      Me: Mounie, Kolasinac, Rosenior

      You: Valencia, Mee, Quaner

  27. WDT
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Unpopular thought for the day;

    KDB is not good value at 10. Dont like reliance on assists for points. Alli, Mane, Salah better value.

    1. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      He does have a goal threat. It just depends where Pep plays him. In 15/16 he scored 7 goals in 2000 mins.

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Agreed.

      I think everyone knows it deep down, but want to feel safe with City "cover".

    3. peng
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Is gonna take a lot of patience for sure. Reckon a lot of people will get fed up of trickling 5 pointers and sell him once hazard is back. Think he's very likely to be a top 5 scoring mid come the end of the season though.

    4. Sterling is £11Mill..…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I actually agree, just hoping he will get some goals but I dont see many and he aint going to be playing false nine anytime soon. Alli,KDB, Mane, Sala thats the midfield order IMO. Liverpool last due to rotation, otherwise Mane could be like just behind Alli or equal to

      1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Obviously thats not including Hazard or Sanchez and presuming Ozil is wank

    5. Brutus619
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      De Bruyne is a bigger threat to goal than David Silva ever was (and Silva was definitely worth £9.5m in his prime).

      KDB hit the post 8 times last season, 3 times more than Pogba and any other midfielder in the Premier League!

      1. WDT
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        But he didn't score those goals, he hit the post. If Pogba had chosen to shoot instead of pass sometimes, he similarly may have scored more goals. Conjecture.

      2. WDT
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 27 days ago

        However I do agree with your point re KDB being more potent than Silva goalswise

    6. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Or, he could be at the centre of a Goal-nado 😉

  28. AverageJoe
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Who would you draft?
    A. Heaton
    B.Butland

  29. Brutus619
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 27 days ago

    How's it looking?

    Forster, Elliot

    Kolasinac, Stones, Cedric, Frances, Rangel

    De Bruyne, Mkhitaryan, Sterling, Gradel, De Jong

    Kane, Lacazette, Gabbiadini.