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11 August 2017 2512 comments
Mark Mark
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It’s almost like turn-based Fantasy Football.

Alexandre Lacazette’s 17.8% ownership will be more than happy with the night’s work from the Frenchman.

His goal and spritely performance was enough to provide comfort and early re-assurance for those who snubbed one or more of Romelu Lukaku, Harry Kane or Gabriel Jesus.

Lacazette scored one, he perhaps could and should have got more. He certainly did enough to indicate that he can justify the 10.5 Fantasy Premier League fee.

His non-owners must acknowledge that Lacazette showed promise, but they will also know that there are more turns to play out.

Jesus will go on Saturday, backed by a 13.6% ownership, with 30.7% of those handing him the captaincy for a trip to Brighton.

Then it will be Kane and Lukaku on Sunday, with the 49% owned Manchester United striker backed by over a million armbands.

Meanwhile, up on Tyneside, Kane will be part of 37.9% of squads and with 55% of his owners trusting him as their skipper.

Those captaincy percentages are telling.

For while Lacazette’s promising performance might already cause some to consider the saving from Lukaku or Kane, it’s significant that the pair are both backed by more than half of their Gameweek 1 owners with the armband.

Lacazette earned the faith of just 29.1% of his managers, with the majority doubtless turning to one of the two big-hitters.

And therein lies the difference.

The Arsenal striker was impressive, but there is plenty of ground to make up before we consider him at the same level as Kane and Lukaku as a captain.

For starters, we will want to assess the impact Olivier Giroud’s dramatic winner.

Once again he sprung from the Arsenal bench to send Arsene Wenger a message. Once again, as we saw with Alexis Sanchez last season, we will wonder if Giroud will eventually gain starts as the central striker, pushing Lacezette into a support role.

To an extent, we have the same worry with Jesus. Sergio Aguero’s presence could eventually shift the Brazilian to a flank or behind the lone striker at times.

How that will impact either striker is unknown. What we do know is that this is not a concern with Lukaku or Kane.

So while Lacazette convinced and demonstrated that he will have a say in our seasons, early talk of Arsenal’s new signing being elevated to their level seems premature.

He has the pair on their toes, and they will need to take their turn to shine.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Leeds2116
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    why is evryong going crazy and getting in xkaka? it was one game..

    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      It happens all the time. Person scored points monkey must buy

      1. Leeds2116
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        lol silly ay. save trades for injuries and suspenstions

    2. lilmessipran
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      But but he got 2 assists... so I must have him

    3. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I had him before the game so I get 10 points and a price rise

    4. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I actually took him out yesterday. Doh!

      I could see the long-term assist potential of both Xhaka and Matic. Will try to get him back at some point.

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I thought you had him in your team?

        Did you get cold feet or something?

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Yeh. To be fair the last player to occupy that 5th mid slot was Iwobi. I finally ended up with the player whom I put in on day one - Carroll.

          1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            I did the same... TC and then Lokilo up until 20 minutes before the deadline today- and back to TC

            1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              I deserve a brow beating if Lokilo scores this weekend

    5. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Breaking : FPL Players Kneejerks 😀

  2. sunzip14
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    "If you own footballing boots and happen to be around West London, chances are that you could be picked to be on Chelsea bench"

  3. The bigger they are, the faster they fall?
    Diva
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Can anyone point me to the origin of the theory that high ownership players drop faster in price?

    Thanks.

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      It's around 10% or so for a price drop

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I know, which is why I'm asking where this theory comes from.

    2. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      It is a legend which goes back to the depths of time.

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Aye. My edujmacation has clearly been lost to the sands of time.

    3. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Only theory is they have more ownership that means more players own him and more people sell them due to it. So a player drops fast in price. Coz more active transfers out.

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        But if he's got higher ownership then it will take more sales to get to the same drop point, which is why I want to see of there was any logic behind this theory or if people have just misunderstood the transfer market mechanics and it's become an "FFS comments fact".

        1. Phil Dagger ⭐
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Last season Aguero and Stones didn't drop for ages and Some good owned players dropped like a stone so it's not clear of course 😆 how FPL do it...... And how this myth occurred

          1. Diva
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            The basics are clear, but there are nuances. Frankly, I'm still in awe of the work FPLS does to reverse engineer it.

          2. Frank Koscielny
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            One factor here is injuries/suspensions and the fact that if you're flagged I've read that the fall/rise point automatically is higher. Like Zlatan last season, fell a lot faster in early gw (dry spell) than later (injury)

            1. Diva
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Yes, flags do affect falls, but that's not so relevant for the argument I'm specifically questioning here.

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 17 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Always looking for arguments 😛

                1. Diva
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Hehe. I just have a suspicion there's been some dodgy theory circulating here this summer, but I don't want to jump straight to outright criticism of it if some significant study has been done which showed the theory has unexpected legs.

                  1. TorresMagic™
                    • Has Moderation Rights
                    • 17 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    Plenty of the casuals got Rangel due to last seasons points. Quite a few will sell if he gets 0 mins.

                    1. Diva
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      That's more nuanced though than the argument I've seen advanced on here at times this summer.

                    2. Benster
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Yes, that's always been my argument. I have no idea of the science behind it, but if a highly owned player who everyone expects to play does not play, his value will plummet faster than that of a lesser owned player who does not play, as they were likely fodder anyway

        2. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          FPL Towers have their formula - problem is they change it every season (or some seasons), so what worked last year is not necessarily how it will work this year. That's why those price predictor sites failed so badly in the past at the start of a season.

          1. Diva
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            This I know. What I want to know is if anyone advanced a coherent argument as to why higher ownership players would fall more quickly in price because, based on my experience of the transfer system mechanics, no one should be telling other players this at the start of the season.

            1. Diva
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Or rather, I should have said I understand what you are saying, but the key problem the prediction sites had a couple of years back was not so much a change in formula but the hiding of a key data source.

              1. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                I completely agree with the point you are making. High ownership plays have to lose way more owners before they fall.

                1. Diva
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Yes, historically they do when they are at their original price.

        3. FC Lackless [BALEGIUM]
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          this

        4. firetog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I have the same feeling about the common fact that there are less clean sheets for the top teams at the start of the season. I went back through the last 4 seasons (912 games) and counted the clean sheets for the top 6 finishers. I did counts for, overall clean sheets, clean sheets in games against promoted teams and then games against the bottom ten finishers. I then counted just the first 10 games and compared the clean sheet rates for the season against the first 10 games. They were practically identical in every category.

    4. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      It follows the theory, the bigger they are, the harder they fall. About 40K for price fall so if you have 40K to lose, you can fall, if you have 30K... you can never lose 40K

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yes, but that's not how the price fall system works.

        1. Diva
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Or, rather, that's not how it has worked in recent seasons.

        2. TorresMagic™
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          More live managers, if the player doesn't play and was expected to, managers get rid quickly.

          1. Diva
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Now that closer to the kind of argument I was expecting to see advanced in an explanation of the theory, which is why I was asking if there was an article or something which had gone into this in details.

    5. Frank Koscielny
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      See comment below

    6. invertebrate
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Now THIS would be a good hot topic.

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        You can still find my old guide to the transfer system on my blog if you're interested in this topic.

        1. invertebrate
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks Diva. I know (roughly) how it works. I meant more that one sane voice of dissention to an unproven myth that's been repeated ad nauseam all summer would make a good hot topic. If people don't see this page they'll just assume the high ownership thing is gospel truth.

          On the flip side, making it a hot topic may actually attract an answer with a convincing argument for the theory.

          1. invertebrate
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            (which would also be a good thing)

          2. Diva
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Thanks Invertebrate. There might be scope for an investigation based, for example, on the pre-season choices of dead teams. However, unless someone has done that study and found some conclusive results, I think we've been seeing conjecture here.

            1. invertebrate
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Agreed.

    7. JasonG123
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      It is much more complex than that. It is really based on the interaction how many active managers own the player and how many casuals vs hardcore players own the player.

      Active managers - obviously if a player is owned more by active players their price will have more variance. This sometimes gets conflated with total ownership.
      Casuals vs hardcore - Has an affect in specific circumstances, e.g. casuals are more likely to sell a 4m defender for a hit if not playing whereas a hardcore player will wait for their WC.

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        This is my point. Too often I've seen people say: "X has high ownership, he will drop in price more quickly." In a start of season scenario, it's not the total ownership percentage but whether the player has an unusually high active or inactive ownership that should matter.

        I haven't seen any study this summer that discusses that, but I haven't always been the most active on here during that time so I was asking if I had missed something.

        1. djpete
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          My theory is that mid-priced bandwagons are most vulnerable. Low ownership originally that shifts to high ownership and then back to low ie. Philips last season.
          Aguero was 13m last season and held his value even when people were shipping. I see this as happening because he was in so many dead/casual teams that kept him through injury/poor form etc.

          1. Diva
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            You're catching my drift.

            The price change dynamics have historically altered when a player is above their original price, but I'm questioning the theory that has been circulating and applied pre-season - i.e. before any player has experienced a price rise.

            1. Andy_Social
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Look at the start of last season. By GW3 only half a dozen players had had price rises - major bandwagons like Ibra IIRC, but scores of players had lost 0.1 in value. What the explanation for that? It would be good to know now as any repeat will be imminent.

              1. Captain Roberto
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Because a diverse ownership is converging on a narrow stock of players.

                In order to buy a top price £12m player you must either swap like for like or do two transfers to raise the extra couple of million you will need. thus managers will sell a diverse bunch of players to buy one specific player they are all focussed on.

              2. firetog
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Its partly due to the capping of 0.3.

                X managers sell 10 different players (Where x is the number needed for a price fall of 0.1 per player )

                Those 10X managers then buy the same player, his price rise is capped at 0.3 so you have an overall player price fall by 1m but also an increase by 0.3. Total combined price of those 11 players therefore fell by 0.7

    8. @persecuted_by_mods
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Good question, and glad someone asked it instead of blindly following. My reasoning is thus, high ownership = player expected by most to do well, if he flops it's easy to jettison him (more than likely he's relatively expensive too)

      A low ownership player is usually a differential or fodder player, in either case him not doing well doesn't necessarily mean it's urgent to ship him

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I see your reasoning and that may be one factor: expectations versus reality. There may be other factors too, such as who owns that player.

        Let's take Wayne Rooney and his 15.5% ownership as an example. What proportion of that 15.5% are managers who actively manage their team through the year and thought Rooney's on for a big year? If the answer is "many" and then he doesn't play this weekend, we're likely to see a big portion of his ownership disappear and a price drop follow.

        What if, however, Rooney's owners are primarily people with a vague interest in football, who were talked into creating an FPL team in July by their mates and have now forgotten about it? If they simply picked Rooney because they knew the name, but now their team is going to sit inactive for the rest of the season, then sales in Rooney are likely to be a lot slower.

        1. firetog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Are you suggesting that inactives are already identified. Most people, especially the casuals only joined this week. Presumably it'll take a couple of weeks if not logging on before they are classes as inactive

          1. Diva
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            They don't need to be identified as inactive, they just need to be inactive.

            We know, based on past experience, that there will likely be some managers who will do nothing with their teams all season.

            If those managers as a group are unusually predisposed to a particular group of players then it may offer those players a touch more protection against a drop.

            Now, no one will be able to identify this year's inactive managers for several weeks. So no one can tell you with certainty: "X is owned by an unusually high proportion of dead teams, therefore a price drop is less likely in the event that they fail to perform."

            Inversely, they can't look at this year's data yet and tell you: "Y is disproportionately owned by highly active managers, therefore a price drop is more likely in the event that they fail to perform."

            What it might be possible to do, if you had gathered the data set together, is go back and identify whether a particular type of player is more predisposed to being highly owned by active or inactive players, and draw a conclusion from that. You may wish to try to apply that conclusion to this season in the hope the pattern will repeat itself.

            It may be that such a study identifies, for example, that players with an ownership over, say, 20 percent, are more likely to be owned by active managers. If this was the case (and I'm not saying it is, by the way), then it might be possible to say: "Z has a really high ownership, he's got an increased risk of a quicker price drop."

            But I don't recall seeing such a study that would make it possible to argue that. Hence my opening question: can anyone point me to the origin of this theory higher owned players drop faster in price?

    9. Captain Roberto
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      They don't.

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        That, basically, is the two-word version of what I am saying. 😀

  4. Waxys
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Just watched a love story interview between Wenger and Per.

    Interesting to note Wenger said he would pick Per every day.

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Get a room Arsene

    1. JustPark
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Poor started Lanzini over Vardy.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        At least they get 5 pointers.

    2. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What a dreadful team. Btw I did captain Rooney or at least manage a team that did

      Try and find my gf/dad's triple captain rooney account it got 10 points

    3. Eze Really?
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      One must be brain dead to have that money on the bench! I can only think they forgot to pick team after transfers.

    4. The Red Devil
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Code for your LMS league?

    5. Lumberjack
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Looks very much like an Auto Pick team

  5. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Looking forward to my diff playing today.

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Who?

      1. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Shaqira Shaqira 😛

        1. Dr Dream
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          correct.

          In off the wing now and had a really good pre season...and Everton looked really poor in the EL imo..

          Not keeping him for long though.

          1. Phil Dagger ⭐
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Oh cool.. Could turn out to be very good. Playing very advanced too

            1. Andy_Social
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              My defence is all sub 5% including the rare bird that is Jones (0.4%). Woah!

              1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Have Jones too... here is to a Cleanie !!!

            2. Dr Dream
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Stoke have wasted his talent. He always looks good when given a free role up the pitch....should be on most set pieces as well now.

  6. Scalper
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    RMT lads!

    Forster/(Elliot)
    Stones/darmian/luiz/Cedric/(long)
    KDB/mkhi/zaha/salah/(Carroll)
    Lukaku(C)/Jesus/(Quaner)

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Too late for that stuff man what's done is done

    2. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      You're a day late

    3. Lanzini girls just want to …
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Darmian and quaner out

    4. Burger
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      4/10, no Vardy.

      1. CL4PTRAP
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        LMAO no Vardy

  7. nisag17
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Does anyone else think Kolasinac's starts are far from assured. I have him in my team but if the injured defenders come back and Wenger is adamant about LWB position being played by Chamberlain then... For a 6.0 defender its just too much risk for someone who might not play.

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah when everyone is fit it's even more risky. He couldn't start over Per and only injury forced him on.

      I expect him and Per to fight for a place with Per having priority

      1. nisag17
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Isn't the fight between Monreal and him for LCB and between him and Chamberlain for LWB.

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          No Wenger seems to prefer Kolasinac play LCB.

          Could change but with Ox and Bellerin being starters I don't see it

    2. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      If I was Wenger I would look at a bunch of players who actually showed some fight and heart in a match and that was badly missing last season. I wouldn't be in a hurry to change the side.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Did you watch the game? Kol was the outstanding defender in an otherwise well shoddy performance. I'm sure he's made his claim for a bag of nails.

        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          No but I listened as I was at work and it reminded me of all the Arsenal fans phoning up 606 last season and complaining that they never were able to fight back from a losing position. Which is exactly what they achieved last night

          First match of the season. Teams only get better by playing together but I would think they would be very satisfied with what happened

    3. Football Weekender
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      He'll nail down that LWB position when the others are fit. AOC is clearly just a stop-gap there at the moment and the other competition is Monreal, who Wenger seems to like at LCB. Should be a good pick this season.

      1. 32chickens
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Kolaturn looked like the biz last night ,charity and preseason
        Can't see many clean sheets tho

    4. FantasyNik123
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      He seems great going forward, but Wenger could always change back to a back four like he did last night when his team conceded three goals at home to a mid table side. Also Cech seems far from steady as he almost conceded off a throw in, and couldve let Vardy have a hat-trick when he rushed off his line like a mad man. 6m defenders are good and all if they get you goals and assists but if you don't have an outstanding goalkeeper behind you, then I don't see the point in having him. Early days though.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        If Wenger uses a back 4 he'll have Elneny and Xhaka sitting in front, which will still allow the fullbacks to bomb forward. I'm very confident Kol has a great season ahead of him and am glad I've got him from day one.

    5. Your Mum Zohore
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Kolasinac was great yesterday, one assist, one shot on target, a few successful interceptions, if he isn't nailed on I don't know what to believe anymore!

    6. firetog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I have him in my team at the moment because Arsenal have a fairly good schedule. It gets a lot tougher in a couple of months and doesn't ease up until sometime next year. I'm hoping he's a bandwagon for the next 2 months and then I'll sell. Conceding 3 to Leicester though doesn't bode well for CS, but they are extraordinary circumstances with their starting CBs missing. We should have a better feel once their starters are back.

  8. Waxys
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    What's with the Xhaka love all of a sudden?

    I told you guys his prospects and no one wanted him an assist or two shouldn't change anyone's minds

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Even the one other guy that had him got cold feet and took him out

      1. dvdguy
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        He's a card magnet, wouldn't go anywhere near him.

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      No one is getting him here

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        That's fine.

        He's key to bringing in Hazard for me.

        1. Holmes
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Will get suspended by then 😮

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      10 from 1?

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        His prospects are the same as any other midfielder that usually go for 7 or 8m

        Yet he's priced at 5.5

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 17 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Good luck with Captain Jesus.

          1. Waxys
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Thanks.

            1. TorresMagic™
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 17 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              But you captained Rooney?

              1. Waxys
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                I triple captained Rooney.

                I manage two teams my own personal team, and my gf and dad's EPL accounts I get some of the players they want like Lukaku and I can experiment a bit with Xhaka and Rooney triple captain

                1. TorresMagic™
                  • Has Moderation Rights
                  • 17 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  But you didn't have Xhaka in your team?

                  1. Waxys
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 11 months ago

                    I think we have a misunderstanding pal.

                    I'll link you to an imgur screenshot of my team if you want no biggie

                    1. TorresMagic™
                      • Has Moderation Rights
                      • 17 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      I can post 2 links if you want.

                      1. Waxys
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        ok show me the two teams one is named waxy's Dream team and the other is named Bill's team both are entered in LMS.

                        Obvs I don't have two teams but someine has to help manage my dad's team

                      2. TorresMagic™
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 17 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        If I know the 2 captains, I know both teams. The Waxy one doesn't have Xhaka.

                      3. Waxys
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Anyway this all seems really dodgy hahah so I'll just leave it at that

                      4. Waxys
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        The Waxy's one doesn't have Rooney either.

                        It's not even what I use for FPL except for mid season

                      5. TorresMagic™
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 17 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Dodgy is claiming Xhaka as your own pick.

                      6. Waxys
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        He is.

                        I made posts about him and he's in one of the two teams.

                        That should be good enough

                      7. TorresMagic™
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 17 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        He should be in both if he's that good. You obvious didn't trust them on your personal team.

                      8. Waxys
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Well just because I didn't select him in my personal team doesn't mean I don't rate him or recommended him.

                        I can't have them all TM I rate KDB, Alli Eriksen Salah but I can't fit everyone in.

                        I'll still recommend them to everyone and Xhaka is no exception

                      9. TorresMagic™
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 17 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        His price is certainly not the issue. He just wasn't good enough for your team. I can pick another 15 players in my 2nd team too.

                      10. Waxys
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Honestly he is. If Hazard was fit Xhaka would be in and Fabregas would become Hazard.

                        Just how things panned out.

                        I don't like to use the term second team and it's really just a family account and my LMS team isn't the one I use for FPL.

                        Better to go by what I say in my posts and ignore the semantics of things. If for example I was badmouthing Hazard the whole season and then you see him in my team yes that's dodgy but in this case no I don't see a problem personally

                      11. Nice to Finally Michu
                        • 12 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Even a broken clock is right twice a day...

                      12. Waxys
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Which is true?

                      13. TorresMagic™
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 17 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        How did your real FPL team do if these 2 aren't it?

                      14. Waxys
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        I have nothing to gain from deceiving anyone TM what I say is 100% what is true or what I believe to be true.

                        Actions speak louder than words so you'll see throught the season how much integrity I truly have how well I do in LMA will be a reflection of my what I've claimed

                      15. TorresMagic™
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 17 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Anyone who cares can find your 2 teams and judge for themselves.

                      16. Football Weekender
                        • 9 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Don't indulge this guy TM, it's really not worth it.

                      17. Galza
                        • 8 Years
                        8 years, 11 months ago

                        Detective Inspector TM. You can't hide from him. 😉

                    2. Yankee Toffee
                      • 11 Years
                      8 years, 11 months ago

                      Link your team in your profile and stop the nonsense.

        2. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Nobody's even whispering that his sidekick who also got an assist costs 4.5. Hello Elneny!

  9. Waxys
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Xhaka gamble paid off, let's see how captain Rooney does. Hoping for a hat trick. Rooney historically has always done something on his debuts in a new season.

    Very excited to see if I truly nailed my team, I said no more mistakes this season and I meant it

    1. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Should have captained Xhaka

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Hahahah no I don't expect too much from him.

        10 points is a welcome suprised

        1. Cheeseoid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Do you do Sky? He scored even more in Sky

      2. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        As always 10.5 Ozil doesn't turn up yet 5.5 Xhaka does.

        Ozil is so overrated and overhyped not a game changer by any means just an above average solid player not worth 9.5m

        1. Holmes
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Now this is too much 😮

        2. Nabs Kebabs
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Ozil was terrible but he is still one of the most technically gifted players in the world, no doubt about that.

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      How many debuts has he made? 😛

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        When I say debut I mean the first game of the season

      2. My Name Is Pepu
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Looool

  10. Venom Snake
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    If Kolasinac was bombing forward like that playing LCB then it's gonna be real interesting watching him line up at LWB 😀

    1. My Name Is Pepu
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      He did play LWB in a friendly against Benfica, was absolutely electric I must say.

    2. MUFASA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      He looked really good. I kind of wish i stayed with him and didnt go with Bailly to cover the united defence.

      If Arsenal can keep clean sheets then he might end up essential.

      1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I think you made the right call, kola is only a transfer away and time will tell what position wenger will play him. in the meantime if united keep a clean sheet you get more points this gw and still great fixtures ahead

  11. My Name Is Pepu
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    I see Waxys up here all the time. When do you even sleep mate? Well done on the Xhaka punt though.

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Cheers.

      I'm in Aus ATM so times are a bit skewed you would all see me from morning to night so it seems more then it is hahah.

      But I do have heaps of free time recently which is good.

      The more I think about EPL the more thought out my decisions are.

      1. LǝgleSs e|even
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        What's up in Aus mate?

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Studying there.

      2. My Name Is Pepu
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        From Oz, nice. My clients are from Australia too, which means I'll have to a bit more nice to you now. Jk, cheers mate.

        1. Kane Toads
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Hello from Perth, West Aus.

          1. LǝgleSs e|even
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Great to see some fellow true blues! Good on ya mate.. Strayaaaa

            1. Doinkster
              • 8 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Goodmorning from Amsterdam.. dutch Spurs fan here

              1. waterboy
                • 13 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Good Morning Doinkster, from an English Arsenal Fan. I hope Kane and Co can put on as an exiting show as we did last night. Good Luck for this year.
                P.S. my Brother and other family members are Tottenham Fans. We were born between the Archway and Seven Sisters Road, so a bit if a toss up on who we supported.

                1. Doinkster
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Goodmorning waterboy, first of all congrats with the first 3 points... even it was very difficult at home. Did you see the match in the stadium?

                  Your brother and the other family have more footbal insight lol

                2. Kane Toads
                  • 13 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  Go Spurs!

              2. Kane Toads
                • 13 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                Amsterdam. One of my favourite cities.

                1. Doinkster
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 11 months ago

                  True..amsterdam is great. I live there haha. If you one day come over then we'll have a drink and watch the spurs game

            2. Kane Toads
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              Onya!

  12. My Name Is Pepu
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Bandwagoners kicking Firmino out already. Would be nice to get Bobby in for around 8.3m in a couple of weeks' time.

    1. Jasoooooooo
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      He hasn't even played yet lol

    2. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Out before he even had a match...???

      1. Legomane
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Firmino>Vardywagon

  13. La Roja
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Sergio (c) today.

    Sort it out lad

  14. TorresMagic™
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 17 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Had Jesus in my team and decided to balance the team and get Gabbi. Not looking forward to the late game today.

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      You have KDB though.

      Should he just as good

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Nah, if only.

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Well look t it this way.

          Jesus or Aguero can score so only one gets the points.

          While KDB can assist ether one and get the points plus more points in general for a goal and assist plus a clean sheet bonus 🙂

    2. Eze Really?
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      You can't have em all.
      Amazing game one out of 380 creates such a stir.

    3. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Something has to give. It was Kane for me. Kaku/Jesus up top, triple United and City, double 'Pool, but no Spurs or Chelsea coverage (the latter is no sacrifice though).

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Nice, good luck.

    4. Bucky Barnes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I have Jesus and Gabbi, so this worry pleases me 🙂

      I also have Xhaka in at least one of the realities within the multiverse so chuffed about that also

  15. Sz21
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Is this squad confirmed?
    No JWP- disaster if true. (or Tadic, or Pied).
    https://www.itv.com/news/2017-08-11/premier-league-team-news-southampton-vs-swansea/

    Southampton squad:

    Forster, McCarthy, Soares, Yoshida, Bertrand, Stephens, Targett, Bednarek, Romeu, Hojbjerg, Lemina, Davis, Sims, Redmond, Boufal, Austin, Gabbiadini, Long.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Could easily be wrong. Being a home game, anything is possible.

      1. Sz21
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I really hope so..

        Otherwise may even be tempted to move for Xhaka afterall.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Odd. Would have to be an undeclared injury.

    3. Midlands Saint73
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Simms is 100% injured so doubt that squad is accurate.

  16. FALCAO & MOU
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Hell, I have Bats captain, Lukaku vice captain, he better perform.

  17. Ibralicious
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Is this team too light in def and mid?

    DDG
    Stephens Hegazi Löwe
    KDB Salah JWP TLC
    Kane Lukaku (C) Jesus

    Elliot | Carroll | Suttner | Long

    Cheers.

    1. Eze Really?
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      The price you pay for 5 big hitters

      1. Ibralicious
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        True, would be a shame if JWP actually doesn't make the saints squad this gw :/

    2. LǝgleSs e|even
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Season's started mate..

      1. Ibralicious
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yeh and my dilemmas haven't stopped

    3. Pep says
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I've got the same frontline but my defence is Stephens Jones Danilo Mee and Dawson. 4 big hitters is manageable, I think 5 is pushing the limits

    4. ChelseaGuy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Yes..yes it is

  18. Kavorka
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Players who dive or feign injury could face a two-match suspension starting from this season.
    If a player is found guilty of deceiving an official or admits to the charge, the yellow or red card given to the opposing player can be rescinded.

    So a defender can miss out on bonus points because of this? Surely they won't give those points back.

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Maybe they changed it. But points are final period

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Points are confirmed on the day.

    3. Kavorka
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah the match result won't change and here I am talking about FPL points haha

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        FPL have changed assist points in subsequent days before. Could they do so for this?

    4. FALCAO & MOU
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      At least we can keep the player.

  19. Pep says
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    0pts so far. Couldn't expect much else but with Kane (c) Kaku and Jesus all to play, I'm feeling quietly optimistic!!

  20. Deicide
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Is it true that Conte could leave Chelsea because their squad is too short and because Abramovich has been selling players without conte's permission?

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Old news... all patched up

    2. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Are you using internet explorer?

      Becuase I think Neymar may go to PSG

    3. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Just gossip at the moment but I personally think it could well happen. Conte has form, as does Chelsea with Mou twice.

  21. Lanzini girls just want to …
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    I had Ramsey in my team from day 1 and people on this site advised my against having him.

    Through all the changes I somehow ended up with Iwobi, who didn't even play.

    That's. When. I. Got. Mad.

    1. KOLASINA(C)
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Well, that's a pretty standard situation.

    2. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I was surprised Ramsey came on, I also had him in my team until very recently.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      😆 Think many of us had Rambo early doors.

    4. Nice to Finally Michu
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      At the end of the day remember that it is your team you pick your own players, not whomever responds on this site. Iwobi was also not all that backed on here either as it was.

      If it's any solace, neither player actually started, you were just unfortunately Ramsey got a return. You never know, your 1st sub may turn in a great one

    5. Cok3y5murf
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Did they advise you to get Iwobi?

    6. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I saw "Ozil is available" and took Iwobi straight out. Ramsey had been injured and might not have come on either. All your decisions, all your responsibility.

    7. DantheManinaPan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I was like you, but rather than listening to the site, I didn't start through risk of minutes, which was a fair argument - he didn't start and so getting points is hard to foresee.

      That said, I didn't get Iwobi, so maybe I'm not quite as mad as you

    8. Kuqi Monster
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Lesson learnt, make your own decisions.

    9. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      plenty of time to get him in. he was yellow triangled, you would have been silly to start him.

    10. Diva
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      No one forced you to listen to people on here. I had Ramsey. I removed him and bought Iwobe. That's on no one but me.

    11. shirtless
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I had him, switched to JWP then Gross, but used the 1.5m to get Kola. I've got Pedro glaring at me now - was busy and missed the injury news, switched Willian for him. It happens.

    12. Four Letter Wirtz
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Hi, my name is Page 302 and I am an Iwobi owner.

      Iwobi not playing, even after his promising preseason, is new and valuable information. If you let that new information make you angry, it becomes harder to process it and act on it.

      Looking at yesterday's lineup, it seems that Welbeck/Walcott are backup to Sanchez (run around a bit) whereas Iwobi is backup to Ozil (thread them passes).

      Depending on how TCarroll gets on today, this may or may not be an urgent problem for my team.

      1. 32chickens
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Hey P 302 namecheck
        From the large FPL draft where they can't bother to update the league table?

        1. Four Letter Wirtz
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Yes, that's me. I noticed a few weird things in draft, too...

    13. Lanzini girls just want to …
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I'm not that bothered, just being silly

  22. Nice to Finally Michu
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Current watch list has Ramsey, Vardy, Kola and that Leicester CB whose name I'm forgetting.
    All four looked very threatening when featured, Ramsey in his stint reminded me why he had his wagon rolling early doors

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Maguire

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      My watchlist is FIVE pages, ha ha! I cringe when I see players like Xhaka racking up points when I had him in my draft and dropped him to the watchlist. But then I recall a statistic I heard yesterday that over 50% of all the clubs in the football league have been in the Premier League over the last 25 years, and I realise my FPL drafts are like that. I must have had 100 players in and out at some point!

  23. Burger
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    If you missed GW1 and only activate your team now for GW2, are you able to make unlimited changes to it up to the deadline as you would if you entered for GW1?

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Unlimited

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah, deadline's the key.

      1. Burger
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks chaps!

  24. I am 42
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    How many public leagues are there in ffs?

    Classic & LMS?

  25. Boris Bodega
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Wow I'm second in the hardest mini league there is!

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Long way to go

    2. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What leagues that?

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Early days.

  26. Sané Mané Hap…
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    I always like cheering myself up by finding the guys who took their eye off the ball at the last minute. One chap in my ML has played a 5-3-2 with Lukaku on the bench. Another has captained Morata. The best guy has Sanchez starting and Costa warming the bench. That's money well spent!

    At least it makes me feel better about taking a punt on Iwobi .

    1. FantasyNik123
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      This. As a somewhat newbie to this site it can get frustrating when you see the big managers out perform you, but at the end of the day you're usually way better off than your mate from work.

      1. Sané Mané Hap…
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Exactly. If you spend too much time lurking on these pages then you'll convince yourself that everybody else except you has got things under control. You need to find those guys who make you feel better about yourself!

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I have a rival who has Lucozade whereas I don't, but then again his keepers are Courtois and Heaton. I think I can rest easy.

      1. Bucky Barnes
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Lucozade is refreshing so I can understand your feelings there

    3. My Name Is Pepu
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      If he has Sanchez starting and Costa on the bench, he is far from the best. Or was it a sarcy reference? I hope so.

      1. CL4PTRAP
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        As in, best of the blunder managers.

  27. Mince n Tatties
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Morning Lads n Lassies

    Any reason why Mark Sutherns hasn't joined the Mods and Cons league this season?

    Also Mark - I'd be hiding your squad selection from Leroy Rosenoir for the rest of the season - he's got the same 15 man squad as yourself!!
    Freaky...

    1. 32chickens
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Mark is featured on sky transfer rumours- reports he has put a transfer request in and is training alone

      1. Mince n Tatties
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Makes sense...
        At least I don't have to google him...

  28. Jonny Sutt
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Here isn't my team

    DDG Eliot
    Alonso Daniels Dawson Kola* Bertie*
    KDB Ritchie Carrol Salah* Willian*
    J Rod Lukaku* Tekkers*

    I'm considering using my wildcard in a month or so to bring Hazard and Kane in but it will mean loosing Lukaku and gaining Pogba. I could rotate Lukaku and Kane depending on fixtures TBH!

    Kola - hunemeier
    Bertie - yoshida
    Salah - Pogba
    Willian - hazard
    Lukaku - Kane
    Tekkers - Hernandez

    What do you think guys? Just trying to strike up a good balance.

    1. Jonny Sutt
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Actually here is my team!

    2. FantasyNik123
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Still a long way to go, in a month's time you'll be able to see who you really want to swap out.

      1. Jonny Sutt
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Fair point, cheers mate. In principle, do you think the big hitter transfers would work ok though?

        1. FantasyNik123
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Yeah but I really wouldn't be alright with losing Lukaku and Salah, especially if they play well over the next few weeks.

    3. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Losing Kolasinac when his fixtures get better is probably not a good idea... I would drop Alonso instead which will allow you to keep Bertrand as well

    4. Bilbao Baggins
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      There has been one game. An asteriod could hit before the you wildcard. So just chill and enjoy the games!

    5. Captain Roberto
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Serious case of Start of Season Hyper-excitement

      🙂

      Chill.

  29. My Name Is Pepu
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Aguerooooooooooooo...
    (trying my luck, commented Jamiee Vardyyyyyyyyyy yesterday and he bagged a 13-pointer)