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12 August 2017 4257 comments
Mark Mark
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A classic knee jerk in the making, Mohamed Salah owners were already fidgeting by half-time at Vicarage Road.

Fresh from four goals in pre-season, he had endured an inauspicious start to life back in the Premier League. A toe-poked skyward effort when through on goal, packaged up with several over miscues and errant first touches totalled a miserable first 45 minutes for Salah.

In contrast, Sadio Mane had sparkled and smartly converted Emre Can’s flick to peg back a plucky first half Watford showing.

Shifted to the left flank by Salah’s arrival, it looked as though Mane had adjusted to already demonstrate that he was back as the go-to guy among the opulence in Liverpool’s attack.

But things were to turn dramatically.

Just through sheer pace and endeavour, Salah first won a penalty via Heurelho Gomes’ clumsy telescopic arms and then sprinted to convert Roberto Firmino’s chipped effort from two yards out.

He ended on 11 points and was quickly installed as the top transfer target from those in action on the day.

He tallied five shots, all in the penalty area and eight touches in the box – more than any other midfielder in Gameweek 1 so far. Just as we expected, the statistics are Salah’s friend and will likely reinforce his case throughout the season.

Mane, who picked up a booking, was left trailing and, on today’s evidence, will clearly have his work cut out to justify his billing as the most expensive option in Jurgen Klopp’s armoury.

Owned by 23.5% to Salah’s 23.3%, that narrow gap is closing as Philippe Coutinho owners bail out, turning to the Egyptian as their replacement.

It is, of course, early days and it’s back at Anfield where Mane has previously been so potent.

Nine of his 13 goals arrived on Merseyside last season and he will have Crystal Palace in his sights for Gameweek 2.

Firmino also deserves our recognition. With Klopp relegating James Milner to his bench, the Brazilian was again on penalty duties and expertly converted following Salah’s tumble.

With the assist to follow, Firmino waltzed his way to the maximum bonus points, already benefiting from his new classification as a forward.

If Milner is to remain out of favour – presumably now discounted as a left-back – then Firmino will surely prosper.

Liverpool won eight penalties last season, with all but one converted by Milner. Firmino scored 11 goals regardless.

We have no reason to expect that Liverpool’s penalty count will regress. Indeed, with Salah adding his pace to Mane’s bursts, there’s every chance it will be maintained or even increased.

The conclusion is that Firmino’s stock is on the rise and that suddenly, Mane is in danger of slipping further down our Liverpool attack pecking order.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Manani
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    is TAA injured?

    1. ACCOUNTING ON CHRIS
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Who is TAA?

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        The reason why you're happy with your gameweek and not on a classic -16 casual rage transfer

        1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          😉
          Trent Alexander Arnold

    2. Le _ Professeur
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nope, don't think so

  2. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 17 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Cracked the top million 🙂

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      448K here...I have got a lot of work to do

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 17 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        If you have a few tomorrow, not really.

        1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Kaku (C), Erik Alli Jones... may do ok

          1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            You must have some decent ones tomorrow

  3. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Draft league question Mates:
    I have King, Philips, Ince, VVA, as my 1-2-3 pointers today

    Mounie, Ramsey, Blount, Xhaka, and Hegazi are available.

    Who do I claim?

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Keep King and Philips. PVA I would ditch. If you don't mind punting, Ince>Ramsey could be good although I would stick.

      1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers Witty... so VVA didn't get forward well?? What a terrible day for Palace! Shocker... at least with Chelsea there is the 14 minute Red Card and the quality players out with short term injury/ban.

  4. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    "Liverpool won seven penalties last season, all converted by Milner."

    I must have dreamt Forster absolutely outwitting Milner.

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Noted.

  5. Tornado
    • 17 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    How did jesus play?

    1. GinjaWhinja
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Really good actually. Any other day he could have had a hat-trick. Just a shame Brighton can defend.

      1. Tornado
        • 17 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        So captain material next week?

    2. Yav
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Looked sharp.

    3. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Quite well... unlucky to not bag a brace
      Yellow for inadvertent hand ball into goal

    4. JAC THE CAT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I thought he did well, I like him.

  6. lilmessipran
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    501k with kane and lukaku (c) left...boom..green or red arrow from here by the end of gw1?

    1. JAC THE CAT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

  7. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Assume as not flagged Bertrand going off late in game not due to injury?

  8. JAC THE CAT
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Fairly happy with my start.

    A few bad eggs I would like to sell already but going to keep everyone for a second GW and bank my transfer.

    1. ZLNR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Bankers earn the profits. Got many still to play?

      1. JAC THE CAT
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        On 49 with Kane (C) and Lukaku.

        Was looking for 200 points from
        the first 3 GW's so well on the way.

        1. ZLNR
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          That's ideal I have same players but failed to swap the armband KDB to Kane last minute so not sure how I feel

          1. JAC THE CAT
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            How many points you on?

            1. ZLNR
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              57 as managed 3 CS somehow without doubling SOU/WBA

              1. JAC THE CAT
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 1 month ago

                Fantastic score, great first GW.

    2. Prøfeßör …
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Just checked your team and we've got an identical starting 11. :O

      I'm banking the transfer too.

      A good start!

      1. JAC THE CAT
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ha ha! That's crazy, well played us!

  9. Sterling is £11Mill..…
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Im thinking Firmino can make way for Vardy if you get Salah in midfield

    1. JAC THE CAT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      That could work well.

    2. SC not pearls before swine
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Think doubling up on Liverpool is not a bad place to be at all.

    3. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I wouldn't

    4. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have Firmino, Salah and TAA - think I'll be keeping the first two!

  10. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Does anyone else think Milner will be back to LB and therefore take the pens from now on?

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      big chance

    2. JAC THE CAT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nah, I don't.

    3. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No but regardless it's a risk i'm not willing to take. A 6.5M defender not sure of playing(even worse, because of Moreno) it's a no no.

      I was only planning to have him for the first two GWs and the plan failed miserably.

    4. lilmessipran
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      back to lb possibly, pens not so sure really

    5. Le _ Professeur
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I think it could happen Yeah

  11. F4L
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Give KDB one more week, or hop onto Mane for a -4?

    1. GinjaWhinja
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Palace are Liverpool's bogey team but the switch will tempt me later in the week I suspect.

    2. Big Sum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      😀

      1. F4L
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I know its knee jerky, but boy is it tempting

    3. Yav
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Wait.

    4. DD
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I would hold

    5. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Could have easily hauled today if others had finished better

    6. JAC THE CAT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Beautiful.

    7. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Keep

    8. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      One more week for sure. Mane might not even play next week!

    9. ZLNR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'd be most inclined to hold and bank the FT

    10. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      And so it begins. The first I've seen at least 😉

    11. Frank Black
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Doesn't make any sense, better player, better team, much better fixtures and a phenomenal assistman who plays with Kun and Gabriel uptop. There's no point, if you want Manè get rid of someone else.

    12. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      cheers for everyone knocking sense back into lol 🙂

      1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Any day 😉 Just sit on your hands until games are over.

  12. Emiliano Sala
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    First man stood out

  13. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Seen a few lol's at folk playing their wildcards already.

    There is only two reasons to play the early WC, when you get over run with injuries or when you think your team is kak. Sometimes a third reason is given, fixture changes, but very few ever actually do that when it comes to it.

    The first WC isn't like the second when a justifiable DGW comes along...it's more random...If anybody thinks they've made a Bllx of their team then just do it.

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'm playing GW3; probably going to load up on Spurs and Pool

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        It'll be used to get Sanchez in for me....whenever that may be.

        1. F4L
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I would wait till the transfer window shuts for him

          1. Dr Dream
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Could well be.

            If he moves to City It'll be a problem owning him...and every other City player.

  14. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Where did people get BPS stats from realtime?

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Thank you!

    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A new planet

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ta 🙂

      1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers!

  15. Egg noodle
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Kane + 23 points
    VS
    Valencia Alderweireld Mkhtariyan Alli Eriksen

    1. mgrea
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A; I always prefer the points to the players

    3. lilmessipran
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      A

      1. Egg noodle
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Bad news for me then

        1. ZLNR
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I wouldn't count it a loss just yet could be tight!

    4. Kun, Ayew Nigerian?
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Sorry about the anticlimactic result

  16. Whats the Mata?
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Any obvious transfers to do here or good to roll one over?

    DDG
    Danilo*, Francis**, Stephens
    KDB, Salah, Fraser, Zaha
    Lukaku, Kane, Gabbiadini

    Elliot, Carroll, Suttner, Long

    1. JAC THE CAT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Roll with it my friend.

    2. TTKKane
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I think you're fine to roll over

  17. Freddo
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    The stats love Salah but the bonus points didn't.

    Why is that?

    1. lilmessipran
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      shots off target

    2. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      big chances missed, offside, loosing possession etc. Same always applies to Mane

      1. Freddo
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Not quite the total package the article implies then?

    3. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      rather than passing , he gets dispossessed.

  18. andy85wsm
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    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone go with Gabbiadini?

    Not knee jerking just yet but he probably won't last long in my team. Firmino on pens at 8.5 is someone I think I want in my team! Double up on Liverpool attack looks good again

    1. Yav
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I didn't but he still has good fixtures, so still a decent option imo.

    2. TTKKane
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I think Liverpool will get their fair share of penalties with the pace they have in attack

    3. JAC THE CAT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I kept telling you how good Firmino would be on your stream 😉

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Aye, knew he was decent but went with Salah and Gabbi in the end so not all bad.

        Double up looks decent though

        1. JAC THE CAT
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          The double up looks great!

          Already looking at options to bring them both in soon.

    4. Rash
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Gw3 should palace remain as dire as they were today then I will be doing Zaha gabbi to xhaka and Bobby

    5. Big Sum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      If you can do it with 1FT then why not

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Would have to be 2 so I'll give it at least another week, and realistically 4 because Firmino has a couple of tough fixtures

    6. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Gabbi is always going to share gametime with Austin.
      worth doubling up with pool imo

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Aye, the Austin thing was something I didn't give enough consideration too.

        All well and good that Gabbi will start but how much time will he get each week

    7. H-SF
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I went with him, not sure I want to double up on Pool quite yet, so will either roll for another GW or go to Mounie

  19. Rash
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    39 with (k)aku valencia ddg to go about average?

    1. ZLNR
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      31 avg with 3.1 players remaining on average

    2. TTKKane
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe a little above average

    3. DD
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Just above average

    4. JAC THE CAT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      That's cool, good united performance and that's a great week.

    5. Rash
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Thanks double saint defence and salah my only positives concerned with gabbi but no knee-jerk

    6. Salarrivederci
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Got 51 with Lukaku (C) and Valencia left to play.

      Mounie saved my week. KDB - Wijnaldum - Zaha... not so much

  20. Harper_
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Can you guys please not make any transfers this week so I can bank a transfer without price drops. kthx.

    1. JAC THE CAT
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      My pleasure!

    2. Yav
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Done.

  21. ZLNR
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Repost

    Did Palace's Mili play well?

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      subbed at HT; so guessing not 😛

      1. ZLNR
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I forgot about that haha. Bit of a clue. Thanks man

  22. SUPERMAN
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    'Mane is in danger of slipping further down our Liverpool attack pecking order.'

    No chance. He stays...

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mane is the only Pool mid I'm confident that he can haul week in week out

    2. Je suis le chat
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Great player Mane. His bookings are an impediment to getting bonus points.

  23. The Mighty Hippo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Did anyone see the Swansea match? How did Abraham do, I gather he had a header which went jut wide, but what about his general play for the rest of the game?

  24. Dynamic Duos
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    YOUR TEAM WASN'T BUILT FOR GWK1 ALONE!!!!

    1. Je suis le chat
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Mine was. Now trying to figure what to do with Fab.

      1. Dynamic Duos
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Ritchie and Phillips are options, maybe Xhaka

  25. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Are we sticking or twisting with Milner?

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      twist

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      At that price 🙂

  26. Stokelona
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Quick question for people playing the sky game. The leaders are on 150-60 points but this doesn't seem possible with the players they've got. Is it just a glitch in the game or have they made transfers or used some lifeline or something?

  27. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Bolt's last ever race about to start

    1. potatoace
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      aaaaand , its gone

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      🙁

  28. Jonny Sutt
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    A) Dawson
    B) J Rod

    Both have Burnley away

  29. potatoace
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    how was zaha today.
    anything positive to report.

    1. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Saw a lot of
      Aaargh, Zaha missed a sitter
      And
      Zaha looking dangerous
      Making the rounds on here, so probably

  30. Jonny Sutt
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Why was Ake a popular choice in drafts? Is he a goal threat?

    1. Dynamic Duos
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yes he is a goal threat big time.