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1 October 2017 3594 comments
Mark Mark
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Sunday’s events did little to solve our striker problem.

We began the day scouting Alexandre Lacazette, who chose to blank in an Arsenal home match for the first time – frustrating the 265,000 who had acquired his services with the Brighton fixture in mind.

The Frenchman was also withdrawn early, with 20 minutes remaining, as Arsene Wenger handed Olivier Giroud some oxygen. That will always be an issue.

Clearly, Lacazette doesn’t fit into the same untouchable bracket as Alexis Sanchez; Wenger feels comfortable hooking and even omitting the striker from his starting line-up when he sees fit.

Combine that with the lack of away goals to this point, and it’s clear that the Gunners option has much ground to make up before we can consider him in the same bracket as Harry Kane or Romelu Lukaku.

Even as a third striker, we’d have to keep Alvaro Morata and Gabriel Jesus ahead in the pecking order for now.

So where does Roberto Firmino sit in those ranks?

His omission from Jurgen Klopp’s teamsheet was perhaps no big surprise; we were braced for it.

However, it arrives as another telling blow to the Brazilian’s stock at a time when we desperately needed him to show form and cement his status as a third striker.

Now we will surely continue to see his ownership and value plummet over the break, with the confidence of his 1.2 million owners broken by a run of blanks and Klopp’s selection.

Daniel Sturridge hardly passed his audition to claim the central role, and Firmino will surely be re-instated for the visit of Manchester United in Gameweek 8, regardless of his long-haul flight home.

But Liverpool’s attack are clearly faltering. They relied on the genius of Philippe Coutinho for today’s breakthrough, but it’s not the chance creation that’s broken – it’s purely their finishing.

The numbers show that Klopp’s attack have averaged 20 goal attempts over their last two Gameweeks, with three big chances per match. But only 20% of their efforts have hit the target, compared with 41% from Gameweeks 1-5.

Sturridge wasn’t the solution, and Firmino will return, but is the damage already done?

There will be some who end up holding Firmino just because of the lack of alternatives: we have Jamie Vardy and a cast of mis-firing, inconsistent candidates at 8.5 or below.

Just like Lukaku, we may look for a change but arrive at Gabriel Jesus as the only route.

The Brazilian is clearly an extremely credible candidate, with the fixtures to fly. But he’s also a player who – by his own recent admission – was playing the role of a “winger” or not playing at all when Sergio Aguero was fit.

We can settle on Jesus for now, but few of us will believe that it’s for keeps.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Weasel51
    9 years, 17 days ago

    A) Morata + Silva
    B) Jesus + Hazard

    1. Davido989
      9 years, 17 days ago

      A

    2. NestorC
      9 years, 17 days ago

      A

    3. El Muñeco
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      A, safer if Morata is fit

    4. Pedro's snacks
      9 years, 17 days ago

      I went A

    5. Legomané
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 17 days ago

      One is 2m cheaper

  2. NestorC
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Is this WC team any good?

    Elliott 4.0
    Davies Azpi Cedric Mee Naughton
    Cout Choupo Mkhi Richarlson Carroll
    Kane Morata Jesus

    Cheers

    1. Davido989
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Mkhi to Silva or Sterling.

      1. NestorC
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Was going for Sterling, just wasnt sure to double up city and not have united players

    2. El Muñeco
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Keeping Mkhi on a wildcard?

      1. NestorC
        9 years, 17 days ago

        not anymore, everything else is good?

    3. umerlfc
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Do not fancy the other cheap fodder keeper as you would want to choose between options
      Make him Fabianski and Naughton -> Fodder
      And would fancy Silva/Sane/Sterling for Mkhi tbh

      1. NestorC
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Could do that, otherwise its gtg?

        1. umerlfc
          9 years, 17 days ago

          Yes

          1. NestorC
            9 years, 17 days ago

            Cheers

  3. umerlfc
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Is Ward the simple answer when choosing between Mee and Ward on Wildcard?

    1. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Yes

    2. NestorC
      9 years, 17 days ago

      At least he will fall later than Mee, other than that who can know

    3. El Muñeco
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Better for BPS and assist threat yes

  4. Clintymints
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Silva Jesus

    Or haz Jesus

    1. Clintymints
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Reply fail*

      1. UnitedFan
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Oh 🙂

    2. UnitedFan
      9 years, 17 days ago

      So you mean Silva or Hazard. Silva.

  5. El Muñeco
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 17 days ago

    What do people think of:

    DDG, Mhki and Firminio to Pope (to rotate with Elliot), Silva and Jesus?

    Would probably have to do it tonight as have exact cash and Firminio looks like he's going to drop

    1. Ginola14
      9 years, 17 days ago

      For -4?

      1. El Muñeco
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Yeah 2 FTs so -4

        1. El Muñeco
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 17 days ago

          Could also leave the Mkhi transfer and do DDG, Firm to Pope and Jesus for free.

        2. Ginola14
          9 years, 17 days ago

          Looks good as city have more favourable fixs

    2. SC not pearls before swine
      9 years, 17 days ago

      I'd wait until after the international fixtures and get Sterling/Sane instead of Silva if you get squeezed. Just too much risk one of the players picks up an injury.

      1. El Muñeco
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Fair enough, does feel rushed

        1. SC not pearls before swine
          9 years, 17 days ago

          I also think Sterling/Sane are better picks than Silva so if you feel very strongly about Silva I guess I could understand it.

  6. FPL Puppy
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Short yes or no, would you WC this?

    Before WC
    Foster - Elliot
    Kolasniac - Bertrand - Jones - Davies - Long
    Eriksen - Mooy - Silva - Atsu - Carroll
    Kane - Lukaku - Firmino

    After WC
    Fabianski/Pope - Elliot
    Monreal - Cedric/Yoshida - Jones - Davies - Long/Mbemba
    Eriksen - Coutinho/Salah - Silva - Atsu - Carroll
    Kane - Lukaku - Joselu

    1. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      No I wouldn't

    2. MTPockets
      9 years, 17 days ago

      No they're almost the same. Basically Mooy/Firmino to Coutinho/Joselu and gk switch.

    3. Football Weekender
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Absolutely not. Just ditch Firmino, the rest is good.

    4. Bruno Bruno!!
      9 years, 17 days ago

      no keep original team

  7. MTPockets
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Bloody injuries. Morata really messes up doing Lukaku -> Kane for free.

    1. Ginola14
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Wait and see, might not be out

      1. Pierce34
        9 years, 17 days ago

        This. Also are you sure you want Lukaku out? Essentially, it means you trust Liverpool to shut down United's attack.

        1. MTPockets
          9 years, 17 days ago

          Fair point. I should just wait.

      2. MTPockets
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Yeah. Just getting annoyed at fixes every week rather than planned transfers.

  8. FF Dirtbag
    9 years, 17 days ago

    What are people's thoughts on felliani is he a real option at 4.9, seems to be favoured as pogba is out...

    1. Ginola14
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Won't play palace every week, I'd monitor unless you have no other issues

      1. FF Dirtbag
        9 years, 17 days ago

        On a wc. He makes for a more interesting option to gain some cash rather than the standard 4.5

        1. Sharkytect
          9 years, 17 days ago

          Agreed. The 4.5s are not getting any attacking points.

          1. FF Dirtbag
            9 years, 17 days ago

            Why not? He might pop up with a goal now and then from set pieces. He might be back to his old Everton days

            1. Sharkytect
              9 years, 17 days ago

              No I agree with you. I'd get him in if on a wildcard.

            2. La Galatica
              9 years, 17 days ago

              Its too unpredictable. You wont really know when he will net

  9. 420king
    9 years, 17 days ago

    WCed from 85(-4)=81 pts into 69 pts 🙁 Damn you Mou!

    1. Fantasy Gold
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Still better than most.

      Not gonna get much sympathy here 😆

    2. La Galatica
      9 years, 17 days ago

      ????

      1. 420king
        9 years, 17 days ago

        What? 😛 JONES, Mee, KDB and Richarlison

  10. Jam0sh
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 17 days ago

    No

    1. Fantasy Gold
      9 years, 17 days ago

      No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no there's no limit

      1. Deulofail
        9 years, 17 days ago

        *No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, there's no limit

        1. Fantasy Gold
          9 years, 17 days ago

          🙂

  11. camarozz
    9 years, 17 days ago

    WC now or over nxt international break?? which is mid November which will help with Xmas period (maybe)

    A couple of hits will probably sort my team out for the moment.

    1. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Depends on your team, but I'm probably waiting until next one in November. Lot of GWs between now and January so think it'll be very useful to hold on as long as possible unless your team is really in need of WC.

    2. umerlfc
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Yes if that is the case

  12. Collie01
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Anybody know if Yoshida is gone off on int duty with Japan?

    I know he was rested after last IB and VVD is now back too.

  13. HD7
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Have one FT 3 Man Utd players and no City so:

    A)Miki to Sane (my fav)
    B)Miki to Silva
    C)Kaku to Jesus (Have Kane and Morata)

    1. @fpl_phenom
      9 years, 17 days ago

      I like A but B is much more solid... I have Kane lukaku Morata and I think thats going to be my front 3 long term.

      City cover is tricky ... im considering keeping mhki and doing salah to Silva / Sane / Sterling if I can decide which one...

      1. HD7
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Yes man I want Sane although its risky... I know I wrote you yesterday about Kane to Jesus but... Im not sure

        1. HD7
          9 years, 17 days ago

          I mean Kaku to Jesus*

  14. Trevez
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Safety A. Vardy Hazard
    Risky B. Morata Sigurdsson

    1. Football Weekender
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Any combination containing an Everton player is an immediate no currently.

      1. Trevez
        9 years, 17 days ago

        They might have sorted things out by playing Niasse

        1. Collie01
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 17 days ago

          They lost at home and didn't score today against Burnley.

          They are a mid-table team at the moment imo.

          1. Trevez
            9 years, 17 days ago

            Everton 23 shots 4 on
            Burnley 5 shots 2 on
            Burnley park the bus even top 6 find it hard

        2. Football Weekender
          9 years, 17 days ago

          They clearly haven’t sorted anything out. Stay well clear.

      2. Rash
        9 years, 17 days ago

        This

  15. @fpl_phenom
    9 years, 17 days ago

    thoughts on my current team... im assuming morata will be fit for palace game.

    Fabianski
    Kola Davies Naughton Jones
    Atsu Salah Mhki
    Morata(C) Kane(V) Lukaku
    Bench:
    Elliot Carroll RLC Hunemeier

    £1.2M ITB

    A) Salah > Silva
    B) Morata > Jesus (if morata is injured)
    C) Mhki > Sterling

    1. Trevez
      9 years, 17 days ago

      I removed mhki and Lukaku if you are wc do it right I say, 2 Chelsea 2 Spurs 2 man city for me

      1. @fpl_phenom
        9 years, 17 days ago

        WC left me to get aguero and then he crashed his car while leaving the red light district.... Think im going to keep my front 3 long term... My midfield heavy hitters need changing to maybe coutinho & silva I think

  16. UnitedFan
    9 years, 17 days ago

    @Kun or any other City fans.

    Who, if anyone, drops out of the City defence when Kompany comes back?

    1. dark91
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Stones i think

    2. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Just my opinion, but I think Kompany, Otamendi and Stones will be rotated and managed, esp around CL time. Can't see any one pair starting 4+ games in a row together.

  17. JAC THE CAT
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Is Davies still the best defender in the sub 6 million bracket?

    Or have I missed the boat and chasing points.

    1. Davido989
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Yeah he is. Jones next.

    2. Football Weekender
      9 years, 17 days ago

      He’s still the best sub £6m but I wouldn’t fancy Spurs’ chances of keeping a cleanie in 3 out of their next 5 games, so maybe go for Otamendi or Stones?

      1. JAC THE CAT
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Good call. Preference between the two?

        1. Football Weekender
          9 years, 17 days ago

          Stones, purely down to price really.

    3. Bibelnissen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Wondering this aswell. Stiff fixtures after Bmouth, but fear for another double digit haul in GW8.

    4. Deulofail
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Rose is back soon (as always). Normally it would not be the time to buy Davies, but since it's Rose, perhaps it's still worth it.

  18. ZakAFC_
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Mkhi to Silva?

    1. @fpl_phenom
      9 years, 17 days ago

      was thinking this but im edging towards Salah to Silva because of next 2 fixtures...

  19. FPL Maldini
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Which transfer is better?

    A) Firmino, Lukaku, Siggy —> Jesus, Morata, Lanzini (-4)

    B) Firmino, Lukaku Ritchie —> Jesus, Vardy, Lanzini (-4)

    1. Bibelnissen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Definately A, but would get anyone other than Lanzini at that price

  20. COYG
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Is having silva and sterling bad or will it pay off with their attacking threat and fixtures

    1. Collie01
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Could well pay off, just be wary that it's not a long-term solution and will likely need a transfer when Kun is back, when fixtures stiffen or when form inevitably dips.

      1. COYG
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Thanks

  21. powegu2006
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Ali, Miki, Salah, Choupo-moting
    Lukaku, Firmino, Morata

    Can't figure out the best way of getting kane in.

    Advice please!

  22. GE
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Firmino -> Vardy (-4) now?

    Have 0.3 itb so can afford some price changes..

    1. OldBenKenobi
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Then no way. Wait and play it safe

  23. Bibelnissen
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Got utterly and miserably punished for going cheap in defence this week. 47 points, apart from Jones' 6 only 1's and 2's in defence where people had Davies, Monreal, Bellerin and what not. Gutted, but upwards and onwards I guess.

    Any ideas on moves for next week? Davies to come in?

    Foster - Elliot
    Jones - Cedric - Mee - Naughton - Schindler
    Salah - Mkhitaryan - Silva - Brady - Carroll
    Kane - Lukaku - Firmino

    2FT, 0.1 ITB

    Seen some massive scores on here these last few pages - well played all!

  24. Puyol Pants Up
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Thoughts on this WC side?

    Fabi, Elliott
    Davies, Luiz, Cedric, Otamendi, Mariappa
    Mane, Sterling, Ritchie, RLC, Stephens
    Jesus, Kane, Morata

    Thanks all 🙂

    1. Bibelnissen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Would worry about bench cover over the hectic december schedule. RLC seems very injury prone.

      Otherwise looks great. Not sure Mane is worth it over Cout though.

      1. Puyol Pants Up
        9 years, 17 days ago

        Yeah 50/50 between Mane and Cout. Might go Cout if I do actually play my WC.

    2. La Galatica
      9 years, 17 days ago

      How many game weeks over that period. If you were 120pts behind could a good bench haul that in?

  25. mikess
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Does Sane play on the left for City or rotate with Sterling?

    Stoke conceded the most chances down the left the past two game weeks

    1. Rash
      9 years, 17 days ago

      He stays left 90%

  26. FPLHaggis
    9 years, 17 days ago

    How about a 433 backline of:

    Elliot (Krul)
    Monreal Bavies Stones Jones (Mbemba)

    1. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Looks good

    2. Puyol Pants Up
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Jones is meh with his coming fiztures.
      Stones not nailed when Kompany fit

  27. Wonderful Wizard Hazard
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Is this worth a WC? Right now I'm locked into a 442 and this will allow me to do 433 or 343. If Morata is back soon, then I can bring him in for Jesus.

    Current Squad
    ---
    Foster
    Kola Stones Bert Ake
    Eriksen Mkhi Silva Gross
    Kane Lukaku
    Subs: Elliot TC Suttner Quaner

    WC
    ---
    Foster
    Davies Monreal Stones
    Coutinho Silva Doucoure Fellaini
    Kane Lukaku Jesus
    Subs: Elliot Ward Mbemba TC

  28. Ravager
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Feel like so many are undecided as to whether they should WC or not. Including myself:

    Foster (Elliot)
    Mee Kola Davies Naughton (Hunemeier)
    Mkhi Eriksen Ritchie (Gross Carroll)
    Lukaku Kane Firmino

    Firmino + Mkhi seem my most expendable, but doesn't seem WC'ing for 3-4 transfers or so

    1. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Quite similar situation as mine

    2. Danno - Emre Canada
      9 years, 17 days ago

      I need to get some City and mix it up a bit, so I'm activated

      1. Ravager
        9 years, 17 days ago

        That's what I want to do personally...get Chelsea and City, but still tough fits

  29. GoonerByron
    9 years, 17 days ago

    0.1 short of Mkhi + Firmino -> Sterling + Jesus 🙁

    1. mikess
      9 years, 17 days ago

      That's unlucky. Not much else you can do unfortunately

    2. JAC THE CAT
      9 years, 17 days ago

      Get a -4 involved.

  30. Klopptomist Scott Jelly
    9 years, 17 days ago

    Finally above everyone who started GW2 onwards